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Rude Customer Service Over the Phone
Posted by Stefanie.silberman on 08/24/2012
THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA -- The store charged me for a wrong item. When I called and asked for the correct item to be held until the next day, I was told that they could only hold it until closing time. Well, being that the store was due to close in an hour, don't you think they could have made an exception since it was the store's error? I am most disappointed in the snobby, pretentious attitude I received from the staff and spending $50 on a pair of skinny jeans should not come with an attitude like this.
     
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Posted by leet60 on 2012-08-25:
Many retail establishments have a policy that no merchandise can be left at a customer service desk or cashier station overnight. When the store closes, the items must all be returned to stock. This is likely what you encountered.
Posted by jonthethird on 2012-08-27:
Too often people will call and ask for an item to be held, then never come to buy. The next day, a different clerk is on duty, and if a note is not with the item, has no clue what is going on.
Also, stores are trending away from "sales clerks" that help you select an item, towards "will that be cash or charge" people who complete sales.
Posted by A on 2013-01-18:
This company is abominable. Customer service is about the worst I've ever encountered. The conmpany acts as if they're doing you a favor by selling you their overpriced merchandise. Store personnel is entitled, churlish and probably deaf because the music is turned to cornea-detaching volume. I will never shop here again. And I'm a talker, so I will convince others to withhold their hard-earned money from them, too.
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I am done
Posted by Skarlstr1 on 08/06/2012
I know these are the clothes that my daughter wants but I am done! This company does not care and it is terrible when it comes to customer service. THEY DO NOT CARE. They are over priced and people should not go there. We are done!
     
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Posted by jc on 2012-08-07:
So, what happened?
Posted by DoneToo on 2013-01-22:
This store is over the top in terms of their abominable customer service and the exceedingly small size of their employess brains. I will NEVER shop there again. And I will throw a party when this behemoth of a corporation crumbles due to their gross incompetence of all things sales and service related. I swear the CEO may well be 14 years old.
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Inappropriate pictures and loud music
Posted by Tsalyer69 on 12/28/2011
MISHAWAKA, INDIANA -- I was shopping with my son and nephew, both 15, over the weekend and they wanted to check out Abercrombie & Fitch. I had no idea what we were getting in to, but thank goodness I didn't have my 4 and 11 year old sons with me. First of all, there was a live male model at the entrance of the store with no shirt on and his jeans pulled down as low as possible without being completely obscene (very close, though!) As we were shopping the boys mentioned that they couldn't stand how loud the music was (& keep in mind they are normal teens who listen to loud music, so you can imagine how ridiculously loud it had to be!) Then, I started to notice the pictures and posters all over the store of partially nude people in very sexually suggestive poses (one male was completely nude and just had his arm covering the necessities). I was uncomfortable and the boys were feeling awkward as well. We left and I will not go back.....still just trying to figure out why a store that sells CLOTHES would use nude models to advertise?!?!?!?!
     
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Posted by clutzycook on 2011-12-28:
If his pants were covering the essentials, that's legal. Inappropriate, yes, but entirely legal. Your best way to voice your opinion is to voice it with your wallet.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-12-28:
Some people just like shopping for the bare necessities.
Posted by Anna Molly on 2011-12-28:
Indeed, J4A.

Posted by trmn8r on 2011-12-28:
A&F has a long history of testing the boundries of decency. Just this past year, they introduced the "push-up triangle" padded swimsuit top for 8 to 15 year olds.

Yup, a swimsuit designed to augment the bust of 8-yr-old girls. Can't make this stuff up. Good for you for walking out.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-12-28:
trmn8r> Girls have been stuffing their bras since before your time...what's the difference? They're just sidestepping the box of tissue. I think that story was blown way out of proportion.
Posted by Buddy01 on 2011-12-28:
trmn8r--I read just today that there was such a protest from parents groups over the push-up triangle that it was removed, but the bottoms are still sold.
Posted by MDSasquatch on 2011-12-29:
You forgot to mention the overwhelming stench of perfume and cologne.
Posted by Cwazychicken on 2011-12-29:
I once went into the store because i got a christmas gift from my aunt, when i was 16. I hate ambercrombie so i was going to return it. I agree, this store does have loud music and sexual pictures and personally, i can buy clothes i like better at a dollar store for much cheaper than that crap.
Posted by Jon on 2012-12-23:
I am not sensitive to smell so the powerful colong does not particurally bother me. I
Posted by Jacob on 2013-12-19:
I always get a headache from the overbearing cologne smell before I even find the store itself. I went to one once and all the employees and customers had this, "we're too cool for this world" attitude. They've come under some bad publicity lately and I hope they go out of business.
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Store not run by kids
Posted by Ashley222 on 12/25/2011
As a member of the A&F teamfor over two years, some of these complaints appall me. Most of all, what offends me is the use of patronizing terms directed at the managers. Calling someone a "little kid" or "12 year old" is so patronizing. You do know that all managers have to have at least a bachelors degree. Only about 30% of Americans even have a college degree so maybe you should be more informed before you call the managers dumb. There are some policies that the managers have to follow that they don't even like, but there are reasons that they exist and you have to respect that.
     
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Posted by trmn8r on 2011-12-25:
It is quite possible that customers are not favorably impressed by managers at A&F, even if these people have college degrees.

A degree doesn't mean much unless you go out and do something with it. OK, so you have to be 19-21 to have one, but you can be very immature. You have heard of the expression "book smart," right?
Posted by lexophiliac on 2011-12-25:
Amen trmn8r. My friend majored in Liberal Arts and has been kicking himself in the keister ever since.
Posted by Starlord on 2011-12-25:
There are many over-educated idiots running around out there. Having a degree really doesn't mean too much when you see some of the programs like World's Dumbest and Most Shocking, and you see what a lot of college kids do while their parents are paying through the nose for a 'good education.'
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-12-25:
I work in health insurance and dr's call into my work a lot. These people have spent years in school, and I'm amazed at how little they know sometimes
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-12-25:
"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education." ~ Albert Einstein
Posted by Jay on 2011-12-25:
Give me a person with the ability to reason with common sense over a college diploma any day!
Posted by clutzycook on 2011-12-25:
You all said it so well, I'm not going to say anything other than some schools give out bachelors degrees in boxes of cracker jacks.
Posted by JayByJay on 2011-12-27:
Ashley, I often disagree with the complaints on this site as well, but this is a very unprofessional way to handle complaints, and could potentially backfire on you.
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The Rude And Obnoxious Manager
Posted by Wranzato256 on 11/27/2011
WEST NYACK, NEW YORK -- The line was 40 people strong, and there were two empty registers. I asked the store manager, Chris to open the other two. He refused, and said it wasn't his job. He had at least 7 other employees folding shirts and still refused to get on a register himself and help the now 50 customers wanting to purchase goods. Half walked out. Its clear why Abercrombies stock is falling, no matter what the product, consumers will not be abused in order to spend their hard earned cash.
     
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Posted by DebtorBasher on 2011-11-27:
Those who were folding shirts may not have been trained for cashier and they wouldn't be able to just take somone from the floor because they would need codes to sign onto the registers.
As a manager, if this was on Black Friday, he should have made a schedule for all registers to be open, if he had enough to cover them.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-11-27:
Some stores hire seasonal employees to keep the floor clean. They are not register trained. Sounds like these may have been seasonal employees. Managers don't usually work the registers. They have to keep an eye on the other employees to make sure that they are doing their job
Posted by raven2010 on 2011-11-27:
I am wiling to bet if Chris had run a register himself, then complaints would pop up saying someone needed a manager for something but he was too busy running a register.
Posted by clutzycook on 2011-11-27:
I think in light of the fact that there were 40-50 people in line waiting for a register, the manager could have jumped on for a few minutes and helped clear some of the backlog.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-11-27:
Exactly Raven. Managers have to be available for customers as well as employees. They can't be available if they are on the registers all day.
Posted by Skye on 2011-11-28:
Tis the season to be jolly.

Posted by A on 2013-01-22:
I'd be interested to see how many people A and F have in their employ to deflect online criticism where they are getting ripped to shreds from customers who are sick of being ABUSED. Yes, I said abused. They'll never see another penny from me. And my kids will not shop there or at any of their partner stores ever again.
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Order cancelled
Posted by Yabin77 on 09/02/2011
I don't know why they cancelled my online order. It is my first time order online, and then I try to call customer service to ask why? He answer me: 'I suspect you resell' !!! How big was my order??? Only $300.64.
     
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Posted by raven2010 on 2011-09-02:
Sometimes it isnt the size of the order, but the numvbr of "like items" that can flag someone as a possible reseller.

For example, buy 100 pair of 99 cent socks.

Did you order many of the same items?
Posted by Aman on 2012-01-02:
I placed order online for $200 for the first time and they canceled my order becuase they suspsect i'm reslling their merchandise. I never got any more this and i'm not allowed to shop there any more..
Ridcious customer service and FALSE Al ligations on customers..

Will never Shop there again..
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Store 10402 A&F TERRIBLE customer service (rude employees)
Posted by A&F NOT on 08/24/2011
SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA -- Letter to managment
Last night (August 23rd) at around 9pm we were in the Valley Fair Branch of Abercrombie & Fitch in San Jose California # 10402 buying some school clothes for my daughter. IN our collection we had a pair of jeans, pair of shorts and a tank top.

I arrived at counter with items mentioned above. I laid them on high counter and the girl at counter took clothing items and laid them on lower counter. She then gave me the amount which I knew was not enough money. So I asked her if she rang in all the items, she rolled her eyes at me and said YEA. At this time I noted that the shorts were not on the back counter where the security tags are removed and still next to register. I then stated those shorts, she picked them up in huff and rang them up giving me new total with a attitude. My 16 year old daughter was with me and I asked her to go to Hollister as I did not need her picking up attitude from a rude employee and asked for manager. She did not get manager and proceeded to take my credit card telling me machine in front did not work. She ran the card no less than 20 times back and forth back and forth. I asked her if she wanted me to try the one on my side and she handed card back and it rang though and worked which was really the worst thing that could have happened as now she was REALLY angry. She proceeded to bag my items and "shift" manager was there by this time and I asked her if this behavior was ok with her? I then noticed when she handed me the bag on to the HIGH counter that the shorts were still on counter, I asked for shorts and the girl did something unbelievable. She did not as most staff is instructed bring the bag back down and finish packing order. Instead she grabbed the shorts as if they were dirty laundry and JAMMED them into bag that was sitting on counter in front of shift manager. I looked at shift manager who was unprepared and did not even know what to say. On the way out she said sometimes people have a bad day???? After discussing it with my husband I will be returning all items today and sharing my experience. In this economy customer service is key, and your company is not supplying this basic ingredient. I called store and was told I was speaking with store manager who said he had heard some of the story and that the shift manager did not tell him that the shorts were crammed into bag while it was in front of my face, I asked him to ask shift manager of this. He said it was my word against hers and if it had happened "the way" I described he was sorry about that but I was after all rude. Yes after all was said and done and my bought items were crammed in a wad into a bag I was upset, who would not be. I was as upset that the shift manager allowed the girl to laugh about matter and tell her she would take care of me.... Last shopping experience at your store and next stop is YELP and other like places so people can see your company is not interested in treating customers fairly. I am a business owner and if any of my employees spoke or treated a client that way there would be serious re training or reconsideration on weather that person fit the mold for my company!
     
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Posted by GreenstarYT on 2011-08-25:
While that's unfortunate you had a bad experience, this is one employee out of thousands. One bad apple spoils the bunch I guess. Like her shift manager said, sometimes people can be having a crummy day. Should she take it out on you? No.
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Company Accused Customers Of Fraud!
Posted by WKJRB on 08/06/2011
A& F has accused me of FRAUD, saying that I am selling their items online. I have never and would never want to sell clothes online, but they seem to think I do. I lost 45 pounds this year (2011) and it was nice to get into some nice clothes. NOW, I would not buy a button from them. I purchased over $2000 in clothes and because it was over a 3 month period, they assumed I was selling the items online. I have never been so insulted in my life. I had to buy all new clothes, they were not the only ones getting my money (which they never will again) I was purchasing several good deals online over those months with a few different online stores. I cannot believe that this can happen. However, this has not ended; I am pursuing this issue and filing as many complaints online that I can about my situation as well as having a few clients investigating the company’s policies and hiring standards for both domestic and international production.
What has happened to our world, that you are guilty before you even had a chance to explain your situation? OH and try to explain or EVEN FIND someone to explain what has happened to you. EVER SINGLE PERSON I talked to on the phone or online, could not help me and seemed to not even want to. This has to be one of the WORST companies I have ever come across and to think they have been around for so many years, it’s sad. Also, if you want to purchase these clothes, I found out allot about where they come from, which I did not know when I bought them, or I would not have done so.

They come from just about every corner of the world BUT the United States of America, so think about that when you purchase your next muscle shirt or $180 pair of jeans. This will only be the beginning of you what will hear in the next year about this company because I have made it my yearly goal to expose this company and its horrible service, products and the lack of contribution to the USA. This company is on the top 10 list of contributors to sweatshops throughout the world.

This I know is a very long entry, but I feel it’s all necessary to make my point.
Thank you
     
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Posted by drugdoc121 on 2011-08-06:
Isn't this a re-post?
Posted by madconsumer on 2011-08-06:
very helpful review.
Posted by Anna Molly on 2011-08-06:
Drugdoc121, this does sound familiar.

Posted by Anonymous on 2011-08-06:
Anyone else have deja vu?
Posted by At Your Service on 2011-08-07:
You're not explaining how the accusation of fraud came about.
Posted by Venice09 on 2011-08-07:
Maybe the OP forgot that they posted it here before.
Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2011-08-07:
Yes, this is a repost. I remember it from a few weeks ago.
Posted by A on 2013-07-15:
A and D is the worst place to shop in the world! Wish they go bankrupt and go collect food stamps.
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Abercrombie & Fitch Accuses Customers Of Fraud Daily
Posted by JRSWK on 07/13/2011
A& F has accused me of FRAUD, saying that I am selling their items online. I have never and would never want to sell clothes online, but they seem to think I do. I lost 45 pounds this year (2011) and it was nice to get into some nice clothes. NOW, I would not buy a button from them. I purchased over $2000 in clothes and because it was over a 3 month period, they assumed I was selling the items online. I have never been so insulted in my life. I had to buy all new clothes, they were not the only ones getting my money (which they never will again) I was purchasing several good deals online over those months with a few different online stores. I cannot believe that this can happen. However, this has not ended; I am pursuing this issue and filing as many complaints online that I can about my situation as well as having a few clients investigating the company’s policies and hiring standards for both domestic and international production.
What has happened to our world, that you are guilty before you even had a chance to explain your situation? OH and try to explain or EVEN FIND someone to explain what has happened to you. EVER SINGLE PERSON I talked to on the phone or online, could not help me and seemed to not even want to. This has to be one of the WORST companies I have ever come across and to think they have been around for so many years, it’s sad. Also, if you want to purchase these clothes, I found out allot about where they come from, which I did not know when I bought them, or I would not have done so. They come from just about every corner of the world BUT the United States of America, so think about that when you purchase your next muscle shirt or $180 pair of jeans. This will only be the beginning of you what will hear in the next year about this company because I have made it my yearly goal to expose this company and its horrible service, products and the lack of contribution to the USA. This company is on the top 10 list of contributors to sweatshops throughout the world. Not only that, recently my partner and I ran a test on them to see who they would randomly exclude from purchasing from their online store. They canceled his order just because we are at the same address. He had only purchased once prior to this and they canceled his order without notice, just as they did me.
This I know is a very long entry, but I feel it’s all necessary to make my point.
Thank you
     
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Posted by Anna Molly on 2011-07-13:
Where did they say this?
Posted by Venice09 on 2011-07-13:
Would they cut someone off without good reason? I don't know. I'm not saying you did anything wrong, but that they are just protecting their interests in a way they see fit.
Posted by madconsumer on 2011-07-13:
this sounds horrible. just because you purchased new clothes they accuse you of theft. i would shop elsewhere!

very helpful review!!
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-07-13:
There's more to this than what you are sharing with us..something specifically happened that caused A&F to accuse you of fraud. Purchasing $2000 at a retailer like A&F over a 3 month period is not suspicious behavior in itself. In addition, if any company accused me of fraud and I knew I was innocent, the last thing I'd be doing is posting all over the internet, I'd be meeting with an attorney.
Posted by Cwazychicken on 2011-07-13:
Yea, i wouldnt think 2000 is a lot of money in 3 months if you shop at A & F (the prices are rediculous in my opinion)....A & F is overrated, you can get just as nice as clothes somewhere else for probably less of a hassle. I wouldn't doubt they would do this. I once walked into a a & f to return clothes i got for christmas one year (and i would not wear them because i hate a & f), they only offered credit but i told them i would never be caught dead wearing their items, so they returned them lol.
Posted by Only 3? on 2011-07-13:
Did you buy multiple items the same color and style? Some places have a limit like 3 of the same thing... figuring that is the most of that particular item you would need for personal use. Not at A&F but another store, I wanted to buy 7 of the exact the same shirts for work, only to be limited. I turned around and walked out... another store got my money and was happy to get it.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-07-13:
I agree that there is more to the story. Also, if the OP was selling clothing from her personal wardrobe, she can blame all of the re-sellers and counterfeiters on ebay for this! I have come across many sellers on ebay who purchase name brand clothing on sale/clearance/outlet prices, etc, and then re-sell them on ebay. There are also several counterfeiters from Hong Kong who sell AF for well below retail prices. I'm really not surprised that companies are starting to crack down. I love Anthropologie but their clothing is extremely overpriced--a lot of pieces are 100% cotton and their quality control is TERRIBLE! I very rarely pay their retail prices. Their sales however, are usually pretty good, usually 50% off and after a while, they reduce the price further. Well there are several ebay sellers who take advantage of the deep discounts and then list them on ebay at RETAIL PRICES! I also refuse to buy from those sellers because it makes me so mad. Sale stuff sells out fast and these sellers buy up all the stock and try to sell it at retail price!
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-07-13:
Sam's mom, I too like Anthro at times, and have noticed what some Ebay sellers do with the sale items from there.

But back to this review - it doesn't seem right to me. If they are going to ban someone from shopping there, they should have proof. Banning customers who spend a good amount of money at their shop is not a good practice for sure. I am thinking they have a reason, but we don't know what it is. Clearly they offended the OP and that is what counts. They should present them with whatever their reasons are as well as proof.
Posted by trmn8r on 2011-07-13:
"Very helpful review". This is why a member of the month won't work.

I'd find this review "helpful" if it gave more details. As it is, I can't evaluate it one way or the other. Yes, it sounds horrible, but so did that French guy accused of raping the housekeeper in the NY hotel.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-07-13:
very helpful review. I'm sorry they treated you like this.
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Law Suit Hijab
Posted by Bteresa on 06/28/2011
To Whom It May Help

Watching the law suit play out on the news is nerve racking since we are not allowed to show our culture or religion when we go on a job then why should they.

We have American Indians who do not wear headdresses to work, we have football players who do not go around in their headgear except when they are suppose too. We have Judges who are slammed for upholding the ten commandment statue in public all in the name of religion. Our court system does not allow us to push our religion on others. These women are forced by their husbands, religion to wear these so this is one of the best defenses you should use to stop this mess from growing and defeating you. Use their own Bull against them and give them the horns of America.

Do not allow these people to tackle your company or any American company ever again.....Make a stand and push back since you are a big company. Show them that these so called infidels are not going to take their crap anymore with their pushy laws......

ABERCROMBIE AND FITCH America is on your side.

Respectfully
Teresa Blocker
     
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Posted by SteveWiginowski on 2011-06-28:
Here is the article that this is in reference to:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Muslim-woman-sues-Abercrombie-apf-2955306870.html?x=0
Posted by azRider on 2011-06-28:
I take exception to the native Americans wearing headdress. not all tribes have headdress. my tribe did not wear them normally and to stereotype all Indians as that is insulting.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
^^^ one American that is not on the side of A&F.


P.S. are you saying A&F would not allow you to wear a cross necklace, if you were so inclined to do so?
Posted by ChuhBaca on 2011-06-28:
This one is tough. We have freedom of religion in this country. Yet, it is being stiffled because it offends some people. For example, employees in certain stores aren't allowed to say "Merry Christmas", because it offends other religions. It makes me angry that people try to police others beliefs because it offends them, but when the tables are turned, they sue.

On the more practical side, I wouldn't expect to be hired to wait tables at Hooters. This almost seems like a much less cut-and-dry example of the same concept.
Posted by Vinnie11 on 2011-06-28:
You are ill-informed OP. Women who wear hijab wear it because they subscribe to the concept of modesty. They do not want you to see what they have and they are entitled to feel that way. Orthodox married jewish women wear a tichel for the same purpose. It is no threat to you whatsoever. It makes no statement about religion - not only muslim women wear them nor are they forced to do so. This isn't the middle east. There are thousands of American born muslim women who wear hijab. If they don't wear it, they aren't killed. They aren't ticketed by the hijab police. They're not likely to wear a mini skirt either but surely do not mind if you wear one, nor are they threatened by what you choose or choose not to wear. Lighten up. Your fangs are showing.

+1 just_cause
Posted by jktshff1 on 2011-06-28:
Dress codes four business have been around a long time. Much as I hate to say it, the stated "business attire" in the application process or handbook should take preference. I have in the course of working more years than I care to tell, turned down several lucrative business offers because I did not agree with "company policy".
Posted by Nohandle on 2011-06-28:
Why do individuals apply for employment at a business if they don't agree with the policy? Perhaps I'm missing something here but if not, apply for employment where you can wear whatever you like or whatever your religion dictates. That shouldn't be too difficult.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
Vinnie..excellent points. You know, it just occurred to me, I work with a gentleman that wears a Yamakah (sp??) and no one has ever said a word to him, and we have a very strict dress and religious code.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
I used to have to wear a yamaka when I was a kid. Cause I attended a Hebrew academy I hated wearing it we would get in trouble if we didn't.
Posted by MRM on 2011-06-28:
My cousin, Vinnie!
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
The Mormon religion wants all woman to dress modestly as a sign of respect for themselves. Even though I don't go to church, I still dress modest. I won't wear short skirts or shorts or anything sleeveless. But I do show cleavage. I didn't used to until I got bigger boobs after I had the baby
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
indeed yaya was dressed appropriately when we met to my dissatisfaction. But I still saw cleavage :)
Posted by yoke on 2011-06-28:
What is sad is this country is bending over backwards to please those who want to wear the hijab and cover their faces. It is as if we are afraid to say no. When they take the job there is a dress code and if you are not going to abide by the dress code then you need to leave. I am sure the person who hired the one now suing got in trouble by upper management for allowing it to go on.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
Really, yoke? Show me where we are bending over backwards to please those who want to wear the hijab.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
Personally I don't care what someone wears at their job as long ass they do their job.

I have seen a few folks at my local walmart wear a hijab and turban.
Posted by PepperElf on 2011-06-28:
"If they don't wear it, they aren't killed. "

If that never happens, where did "honor killing" from from then?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2011-06-28:
Ooooooooooooooo Wally said, '@ss' ! ! !
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
My husband is Muslim. He does not force me to do anything. The women are not forced to wear a hijab. They choose to do so. A hijab can just cover your hair, not your whole face. It is about being modest. If someone wanted to wear a yamakah to work, would the same issues arise?

Vinnie, very well said. It is sad to see posts that just help spread misinformation and ignorance.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
lol dang it. I should caught that.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
I've had this discussion with people in different parts of the Middle East, and have never heard of an honor killing because of that, Pepper.
Posted by PepperElf on 2011-06-28:
interesting that you say "because of that" instead of "there are no honor killings"
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
Because I wouldn't say something that I'm not sure about.
Posted by PepperElf on 2011-06-28:
perhaps you should visit news.google.com
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
The Taliban butchered woman all the time that didn't dress in the hijab or follow proper Islamic law. And I have heard of honor killings also we had one happen in phx couple years back this guy ran over his daughter in a parking lot because she became to western.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
I learn from people who live and spent their lives in the Middle East, not stuff on the news. Both women and men, young and old.
Posted by PepperElf on 2011-06-28:
I've been there too and I know people who've lived in more restrictive countries.

Yes some women do wear it out of choice. however it completely depends on the region and the family.


and if you want to get into modern news just look up "Afshan Azad" - she's the actress who played Patil in Harry Potter. Her father and brother attempted to kill her for dating a man of another religion.

If I remember, that made quite a few headlines.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-28:
I was talking about "honor killings" because of a woman refusing to wear the hijab. I have heard of scenarios like the one you just mentioned. I wouldn't make a statement that they don't exist.



Posted by CharlesInCharge on 2011-06-28:
I'm late to the party but here's my personal knowledge of the A&F dress code. My cousin worked for the A&f store in New York and they control everything you wear. From your clothes to your hair and make up. She had to look like the girl next door, it was crazy the rules they had but she agreed to them when she signed the contract. Did you know the "girl next door" doesn't wear her hair in a ponytail? The hiring manager knew the rules, and hired her anyway. I just hope she was smart enough to get the compromise to the dress code in writing before she signed anything.
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