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Posted by Shocked in Scottsdale on 10/12/2010
I purchased a new 2008 BMW for $65K. I now have 57,000 miles and am 7,000 out of warranty.

Last weekend, the engine overheated. I took it to the dealership and they told me that the water pump needs replaced, a $1,200 repair.

The glove box molding has warped and in order to open the glove box, you need two people. Each person has to push the molding in on either side while pushing the glove box button, simultaneously.

When the car is started and the steering wheel telescopes out it makes a grinding noise. This has been fixed three times and continues to grind.

Everyday, I have to ask myself, is this a BMW? Is this what I paid $65K for?

Where is the BMW quality that I thought I was purchasing?

     
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Posted by bcd on 2010-10-12:
A $65K vehicle should come with at least a 65K mile warranty.
Posted by MDSasquatch on 2010-10-12:
don't most expensive cars usually need expensive repairs?

I wish you luck with your German Engineering
Posted by getoverit on 2010-10-12:
So, two things have gone wrong with a car that has 57,000 miles on it. That's not that bad. But MDSasquatch is right. Those high-end cars have high-end repair prices.

Here's the formula. Take the price of repairing something on a Chevrolet, a water pump for example. Multiply it by 3 and add $250. So, $1200 sounds about right.

They figure that if you can afford the car, you can afford the repair prices.
Posted by ChooChoo143 on 2012-08-02:
I have the same problem with the glove compartment on my 2008 X5. Luckily the warping is only on one side (for now) so I can use one hand to push it in and the other to push the button to open the glove compartment.

My steering wheel has had to be replaced 3 times now due to peeling and now that my original warranty has expired, it's doing it again.

I don't understand how a car that cost so much can have such poorly made components.
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The Ultimate Klunker Machine
Posted by VictorL on 07/12/2006


The Ultimate Klunker Machine
from BMW*
*Which in this case stands for “Bad Motor Works”


Yugo? Audi 5000 Turbo? Which is worse, a lemon for a car or an arrogant carmaker? How about being stuck with both at the same time? Therein lies the sorry saga of my friend’s six-year struggle to get his BMW 535 running right.

It seems that some carmakers, such as Lexus/Toyota, clearly get that the key to runaway success is building quality cars and backing them with an unending commitment to customer care. Yet other carmakers seem to want to run away from their problematic cars and customers’ problems with them. My friend’s experience with BMW underscores how fast and how far they’ve fallen into that group of carmakers that just don’t get it.

Mind you, this experience is NOT mine, but I did make sure everything below is true.

My friend Victor Lin, when still fresh out of school, was one of the founders of a Taiwanese semiconductor company. After eight years of working long days and longer nights, he and his associates took the company public. Victor decided to celebrate this major accomplishment by buying himself a brand new 2000 BMW 535. (Because of various import restriction and taxes, the BMW he bought in Taiwan cost about $90,000 US, or about twice what it costs in the United States.) Victor was thrilled for a while - far too short a while.

Almost from day one, his BMW 535 exhibited vibration and hesitation from a cold start, especially if not driven for several days. His repeated visits to the dealer did not resolve this irritating problem. Despite two engine over-heating incidents (the first within a year of purchase), these vibrations were deemed “non-critical” by the dealer. Being a “go-along-to-get-along” Taiwanese, Victor soon (too soon) gave up on fixing this “non-critical” problem. By the way, the dealer blamed the over-heating on Taiwan’s summer heat, saying that the weather isn’t conducive to an eight-cylinder powerhouse like the 535 (now, if that’s so, I wonder why they sold the car to Victor in the first place). Finally, early this year, during a routine maintenance visit, the mechanics finally admitted that the six-year-old vibration not only exists, but that it has caused cracks in the cylinder walls, coolant leaks, and obviously, a required engine rebuild. This is where I came in to the picture.

After more than a month of unheeded complaints to the local BMW people, hopeless Victor came to my office, hoping that his VP of International Business could help him. Mind you, I was VERY skeptical that there was anything I could do. But the more I dug into it, the more I felt Victor should at least attempt to contact headquarters. Surely someone at a higher up level in BMW must have some sense of how important good customer relations is to a business, especially a carmaker’s business, where repeat sales mean so much to profitable success. Victor and I must have written about half dozen emails to the CEO and the Customer Relations Manager. We got nothing for our effort, other than the usual, near clichéd, “sorry, but there is nothing we can do.”

Now here’s the climax:

As a last resort, I actually rerouted my most recent business trip so that I could have three (not one, or two, but three!!!) days in Munich (BMW’s headquarters), thus allowing enough to assure that I could meet with their Customer Relations Manager. My repeated emails were ignored. I left Munich disappointed.

Let’s for the moment set aside whether my friend Victor has a legitimate grievance or not - I simply don’t understand BMW’s attitude. Hasn’t it learned from Audi’s fiasco that it actually doesn’t really matter in the end who is right? That it’s customer service and the customer’s wallet that decides the market share battle? For those of you who don’t recall the matter, there were a spat of “sudden acceleration” with certain Audi 5000 turbo cars in the late 1980s, some of which resulted in death. Audi’s insistence that the problem was “driver error” and its arrogance ultimately escalated into sensationalized reporting. Audi America subsequently lost most of it market share. It took Audi several world-class cars (Audi 90, Audi A4) and about ten years to recover what it lost in a single PR disaster. You would think that all carmakers, especially the German ones, would have learned what the Greeks taught us two thousand years ago: arrogance is the ultimate demise of mankind.

As to the Yugo analogy: it would be a gross exaggeration to put BMW in the same class as Yugo. (Some might think Victor’s BMW 535 comes close.) However, the 2006 Consumer Reports Annual Car issue clearly shows that BMW is also no Toyota or Honda, much less a Lexus. For this reason alone, it’s simply not good business for BMW to mishandle problems to the extent where a disgruntled customer would have to go the lengths that Victor and I have had to. What are they thinking about in that Bavarian headquarters of theirs?

In these Internet times, when bloggers can instantly reach millions of potential car buyers, BMW might want to reconsider its promotional strategy, spend less on meaningless (arrogant) “Ultimate Driving Machine” TV spots costing untold millions of dollars, and put more into earning grass roots support from its customers.

Charlie Cheng
VP of International Business

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Posted by Sparticus on 2006-07-12:
A few years ago when I bought my toyota, my buddy was asking why I didn't go for the equivelant BMW that was priced just slightly higher. I said I knew a guy once who had a BMW. He hated it. Constant problems, hard to get parts, and expensive repairs. He always told me he wished he had just bought a Toyota.
Posted by Doc J on 2006-07-12:
Evem Rolex has turned out the occasional clunker. I would be equally disappointed in your shoes. Thanks for pointing out that it's not always the cut rate joints that goof. Good luck!
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