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Basic Math & Attitude Issue
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OKLAHOMA, OKLAHOMA -- I went into the Circle K on S. Meridian & I40 to purchase a pack of cigarettes. There was a sign posted $4.55per pack when purchasing 2 packs. The clerk rang me up with a total of $9.30. I asked him about the. 50 instant rebate on the cigarettes. He called the manager over to inquire about the instant coupons, she stated that the. 50 is already included in the price. I told her the sign doesn't say anything about the. 50 being included and that the price should be $9.10. She pulled out a calculator and hit the buttons for 3 minutes and said the charge should be $9.76 so I was already getting a better deal. When I asked her to add 4.55 + 4.55 she stated she knows how to add and she was correct, then she walked away. The manager lacked the ability to add then she had an attitude because a consumer questioned her.

My company has been using this station for 2.5 years for our fleet vehicles. I have moved that fleet account to a competitor. I could excuse the math error however I can't excuse the manager having a horrible attitude toward the consumer.
     
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Ytropious on 2011-03-24:
$9.30/2 is $4.65 a pack. Is there not tax on cigarettes? I'm pretty sure there is. I'm confused as to where you're getting 50 cents from, it sounds like there's only a 10 cent savings per pack when you buy 2. What are they supposed to be originally. OP, your complaint is lacking details here. I'm not sure where the "horrible attitude" is coming into play. You moved your fleet account over 20 cents??
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
I was wondering about the tax too YT.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
Perhaps, we could have our esteemed colleague from Oklahoma make a field trip and attempt to make the same purchase for further dissection? LOL!
BofAmerica666 on 2011-03-24:
I agree with you Webo. Like you pointed out, there's nothing wrong with making a mathematical error. It was the attitude towards the consumer that was the main issue. Very helpful review.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
There is no sales tax on cigarettes in Oklahoma and if there was it would be more than 20 cents on $9.10.

I hate Circle-K with a passion going all the way back to the day when the zero-K carpetbaggers bought out my beloved UTOTEMs.

If it were me I'd stick with the 7-Elevens or in a pinch the OnCues.

Awesome review man!
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
Thank you for clarifying that Lordship.
I didn't know that CK bought uou UTOTEM!
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
No problem Lsalvador. The circle Ks in this town are flat out nasty. The people who work there are even nastier. I went into the one on 29th and Air Depot a few years back and the clerk had 'Mother' tattooed going up the right arm. And 'F&&&&&' going up the left arm. I'm thinking who the heck hired you and how are you still here. Aside from that though she was kind of cute.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
I googled 2011 Oklahoma sales tax items and this link came up, which states that cigarettes are taxed. What's up with that, LR? Are the Oklahoma sites mistaken?
http://www.ehow.com/about_5255302_sales-subject-oklahoma-sales-tax.html
jktshff1 on 2011-03-24:
Helps to do your homework, don't it ript?
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
That it does jkt. The latest I found for 2011 states that Oklahoma's cigarette tax stands at $1.03 per pack.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
ript, I didn't see anything on your link which says sales taxes are collected on cigarettes. Here's a link to a state question the residents of Oklahoma passed a few years ago.

http://www.ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Oklahoma_Tobacco_Sales_Tax_Elimination,_Question_No._713_%282004%29

If that's changed that's news to me. I don't buy cigarettes. Still sales tax can't be the issue here since the sales tax on $9.10 is a lot more than twenty cents.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
I cross referenced a few sites LR. I also did the math with the tax factored in, standing on my head, and sideways, and I got to tell ya, things aren't adding up any which way. momsey could figure it out if anybody could. She's smart like that.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
I'll tell ya what ript.. Next time I'm at the OnCue I'll ask them if they charge sales tax on smokes. I'm pretty sure they don't.
Mrs.Cole on 2011-03-24:
Is the store on a reservation?... If it is Native American they might not pay the same taxes.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
A few sites addressed that Mrs. Cole, and stated that non-Indians were required to pay the Oklahoma tax.

You do that LR, got me curious now about a subject I normally couldn't care less about.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
http://www.tobacco-facts.net/usa-tobacco-policy/oklahoma

Here's a site that flat out states ~~ "State sales taxes are no longer collected on cigarettes and tobacco products pursuant to a legislative referendum passed on November 2, 2004"

Here's the legal citations that spell it out.. OKLA. STAT. tit. 68, ยงยง 302, 302-1, 302-2, 302-4 & 302-5

What else do you want? You were wrong. Just admit it.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
I read that same link LR, which prompted me to google 2011 taxable items in Oklahoma. I will admit defeat when it has been definitively proven. I find it highly improbable that tax on cigarettes in 2004 was $1.03 a pack.
jktshff1 on 2011-03-24:
Revised November 2010
Oklahoma Cigarette and Tobacco Licensing - Supplement
http://www.tax.ok.gov/btforms/PktC.pdf
Call it what you want...it's still a tax that is passed on to the consumer.
Do you owe $500.00 or more in delinquent cigarette taxes?....................................
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
I've got some shoes that need to be shined LR.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
ript, That's still not a sales tax. I never said cigarettes aren't taxed in Oklahoma. I said there's no sales tax on cigarettes. Come on now you're smarter than that.
jktshff1 on 2011-03-24:
Pickin at your nose Roth, you sound like a politician....call it what you want, you pay the tax when you purchase them...it's still a tax on the sale of tobacco.
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
jkt, I'm not sure what you're saying jkt. This all started because the price charged at the store was more than the advertised price. Somebody suggested that it was sales tax. I stated Oklahoma doesn't charge sales tax on cigarettes. The link you posted has to do with wholesale taxes. These taxes are not collected at the point of sale. Therefore would not affect the selling price. Do you see my point?
momsey on 2011-03-24:
Aw, thanks, ript, for the compliment!

20 cents on $9.10 is only around 2% which would be very low for any kind of tax. Now, the clerk said it "should be" $9.76, and that's about 7% tax so maybe the clerk thought the sales tax should be applied?

Anyway, the point is, this fellow was charged incorrectly and didn't get a satisfactory answer for why!
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
Alright LR, let's call it a draw. Would you at least tie my shoes?
Anonymous on 2011-03-24:
Smoke em' if you got em'...
ok4now on 2011-03-25:
I quit smoking 22 months ago due to the high cost and taxes. Not that I promote it or recommend it but weed is actually cheaper than cigarettes. The government gouges smokers with taxes making it cost prohibitive. They use smokers to fill the tax budget gap with the assumption that smokers will pay any price for their addiction. This has now back fired on them. Cigarette sales are down now with less taxes collected. The cigarette companies are now focusing their sales in Europe and Asia. They are having record sales pushing their poisoned product. It's all about the money.
jktshff1 on 2011-03-25:
Roth, so you are saying that the wholesaler is not passing the cost on to the consumer? Come on, you are smarter than that.
Anonymous on 2011-03-25:
No Jkt that's not what I'm saying and you know it. It's been explained.
jktshff1 on 2011-03-25:
Roth,you have explained nothing that makes sense, the consumer is paying the tax. So, what you are saying is that because OK puts the tax on the smokes to the distributor, that tax does not show up on the receipt and is not considered a consumer tax. So, with your theory, because the tax is figured in on the price of your gas (none of my receipts show tax, just the total with price per gallon, and fed,state and local are figured in on that) you are not "paying tax" on gas? Oklahoma charges .17 per gallon tax and an additional 4.5 cents for whom knows what. Because you don't see the breakdown, doesn't mean you are not paying it.
You are still talking like a politician trying to save his rear. The consumer is paying tax ANY WAY YOU WANT TO PUT IT.
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Cinnamon Coffee- Great Cuppa Joe!
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Recently, I woke up a little more hungover than usual. So, on the way to work, I figured I would stop and pick up a cup of coffee. I don't drink iced coffee or anything from Starbucks (too complicated, why reinvent the wheel?), but I do drink cheap coffee. I have searched around the east valley for the best cup of coffee and I believe I may have found a winner. The cinnamon flavored coffee from Circle K. Usually, when you get the flavored coffee, you taste a strong flavor of coffee and a weak flavor, or vice versa. Folks, let me tell you, this cup of coffee is the perfect mix. Not too much coffee flavor, not too much cinnamon. I usually put a couple packets of sugar in my coffee and a little bit of creamer. I really don't think it is necessary w/ this particular brew. A little overpriced at 1.29 for a 24oz. (my usual cheap coffee is 79 cents for a 24 oz), but to be honest, I believe it is well worth it.

So for all of you cheap coffee drinkers like myself, I recommend giving the cinnamon coffee from Circle K a try. I don't think you will be disappointed.

Keep up the good work, Circle K!
     
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shelly16 on 2007-09-24:
I really have to try Circle K's coffee the next time I go in there and buy cigarettes, and at $1.29, what a bargain! I'm partial to Starbucks, but not partial to spending 3X that amount...thanks chris513, I'll definitely try it today!
Anonymous on 2007-09-24:
chris513, GREAT REVIEW! Concise, well written and actually has a purposeful point. When it gets colder outside I'll have to give the circle-k cinnamon coffee a try.
chris513 on 2007-09-24:
Thanks Stew for your positive feedback on my review. You will have to let me know what you think about it once the weather cools down a bit. Current temp here in Phoenix is 72 degrees, which feels like 40 degrees to us.
Anonymous on 2007-09-24:
Nice review and 'Very Helpful'.
jenjenn on 2007-09-24:
Wow...I am jealous. 79 cents for a coffee! That is awesome! My coffee runs $1.83 - highway robbery! It's nothing special...just coffee!! Enjoy your new find.
jktshff1 on 2007-09-24:
good review
Anonymous on 2007-09-24:
Great review!

If I drank 24 oz of coffee Id be spun for a week!
Skye on 2007-09-24:
I don't drink coffee, but this is a great review, and I'll pass this information along to my coffee drinking friends.

Steve, have you seen the movie Spun??
Anonymous on 2007-09-24:
No Skye I haven't.Is it good?
Skye on 2007-09-24:
Oh yea, its got Mickey Rourke, John Luigazamo, and a bunch of others whose names escape me at the moment. Its not a movie for everyone, but the title should give you a clue, that its related to being Spun. I think you'll like it.
Starlord on 2007-09-24:
I don't do Circle K tea. I have a French press and I make coffee, not brown water. I can't see paying over a buck and a quarter for brown water.
I do drink iced coffee, and it is still hot 65 miles southeast of you.
chris513 on 2007-09-25:
thank you so much for all of the positive feedback everyone. I am actually going to go pick up a cup here in a bit while I am on my way to work...have a great week, everyone!
Anonymous on 2007-09-29:
Mcdonald's iced coffee rocks!
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Y kant Stew pay at the pump?
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OKC METRO, OKLAHOMA -- Its hot and I'm fat and the gas pump at the Circle K is playing ugly to me and these three things don't mix well. Look, all I want to do is use my debit card sans the PIN to buy my gas because I get points if I use it for gas or groceries. The deal is though the purchase has to process as a credit card transaction. The card machine on the pump asks if you'd like debit or credit. If you select credit then it asks for your zip code then tells you to go see the attendant. The attendant is clueless as to why. I know my zip code and I know how to enter it on a keypad so I'm not sure why the machine sends me to the attendant. I want to pay at the pump like God intended. Like I said I'm fat and I am getting fatter everyday. The thirty yard waddle in order to pay inside is a killer on these hot Oklahoma days. Yes, I now the exercise would do me good. Valid point but whens the last time you exercised? Sure, some of the naysayers will say go some place else but what you might not know is that Circle K is like the Borg -- They've assimilated large portions of the gas stations in the OKC metro area. It's either Circle K or one of those Asian stores where the quality of gas is questionable at best. Anyway, I'd appreciate any advice or insights on why the Circle K pay at the pump machines are doing me wrong.
     
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Anonymous on 2007-08-22:
Stew, it's not Circle K that's the problem, it's their merchant account processor that's the issue. They seem to have some bugs with their terminals. Tell them to send me an email and I will set them up with a new processor and terminals. It will cost them less and they will have me to help them should they ever need help. Which they will not as what I do is always perfect.
Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-08-22:
I just read something about this....it's becoming a battle between the CC companies and some merchants. Somehow the CC companies are trying to get you to use your Visa/MC debit card without the PIN because then they can treat it like a credit card transaction and they can collect their 2-3% fee from the merchant. But if you enter a PIN then they have to treat it like a debit card and the only get something like 25 cents a transaction. So perhaps CircleK is onto their deal and they are trying to discourage you from using it as a credit card so they make you walk inside - they figure most people would say "to heck with it, I'll just enter my PIN".
Anonymous on 2007-08-22:
(NH) Seeing that you are on here 24/7 things like purchasing gas shouldn't bother you, Azar!
Anonymous on 2007-08-22:
Yeah Hugh that's what I was thinking too.

Are you in that business, superbowl?
Anonymous on 2007-08-22:
Yes, SQL DB's for that industry. One of our companies is a merchant processor.
Anonymous on 2007-08-22:
Hugh is sort of right, but if a system is set up to take debit or credit it is what it is. You can't make the system offer debit sometimes and not others. It is pretty black and white. If the debit option never works then the processor has screwed with the gateway, if it does sometimes but not others it is a system bug. It's not at the station level to work or not, the problem is with the payment gateway. A number of retailers now charge a fee to use a debit card which the processor gets a big chunk of since like Hugh says debit cards do not create much processor revenue. But hey, isn't the station supposed to make their profit from the gas? If you paid cash they would not have even got the $.25 cents!
jktshff1 on 2007-08-22:
at least you are honest. ever think of Exxon, BP etc instead of the O k?
DebtorBasher on 2007-08-22:
I've had that happen to me at the Get-Go ... you earn points each time you shop at Giant Eagle or Get-Go and get 10 cents off per gallon for every $50 you spend. I had to go in and they just took my card from inside.
Anonymous on 2007-08-22:
Stew, you are too fat and need to go to the ocean.
Anonymous on 2007-08-23:
JayD excuse me but it was 30 yards I do believe there is a difference.

Thanks Lidman... You're a real a swell dude.

(B)asher - I see your point.
Slimjim on 2007-08-23:
I'm hanging the big NH on this experience in Trivial Land.
Anonymous on 2007-08-24:
Knock it off, slim!
jktshff1 on 2007-08-27:
stew can't go the the ocean...when he lies on the sand, kids come by hollering....MOMMY! MOMMY! PUSH IT BACK IN THE WATER SO IT WON"T DIE!
sorry stew, had to do it.
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