Horrible Car Buying Experience
BRANDON, FLORIDA -- JULY 7, 2007
My name is Dennis and I am writing this letter in hopes of informing the appropriate personnel of the car buying experience I had at Courtesy Toyota of Brandon.
On 06/15/2007 I went to Courtesy Toyota of Brandon to look for a new car as this was the dealership I had bought my new 2004 Lincoln Town Car from previously. I was completely satisfied with buying the Lincoln in 2004 so I thought I would go there again to buy another car. At the dealership I was quickly greeted by Beth who ended up being my salesperson. We test drove the Toyota Prius but decided the Prius was just too small compared to what I was accustomed too. We looked at the Toyota Camry Hybrid and I quickly fell in love with this car. I really liked the idea of better gas mileage and this car would be better for the environment. I decided to buy the Toyota Camry Hybrid. I told Beth that I had to trade in my 2004 Lincoln Town Car. After quite a while Beth came back with an offer on my car. I was told my vehicle was worth $14,000. I was floored by this offer and my hopes of getting the Hybrid were sinking. I told Beth that was a ridiculous offer. She went and got a sales manager to come in and discuss the offer further. The Manager said that was a good offer on my car and thought I should take it. I quickly responded that in no way was I letting them have my car for $14,000 that I would not take anything less than $18,000. After careful consideration he agreed and we were quickly on track again. Courtesy Toyota Of Brandon only had 1 Camry Hybrid in stock at the time, and we were told they didn't know when they were going to get more in. I was made to feel like if I wanted a Camry Hybrid I better take this one that day or I might be able to get one for a long time. This vehicle was Desert Sand Mica in color and was the basic hybrid model. I liked the color of the vehicle but, I was used to having luxury items in my vehicle so I really wanted to have some of these items in my new car. I wanted a navigation system, a sun roof and leather. Courtesy Toyota of Brandon said they didnât have any vehicles with these items in and that they didnât know when they would. They had quite a few back ordered. Beth told us we could add the items on that we wanted. I bought the vehicle and added a sunroof, leather interior, navigation system and had the windows tinted. I assumed that the navigation system was going to be the same as in other Toyota Camryâs because when I asked about the navigation system our salesperson showed us the navigation system in other Toyota Camryâs and the vehicle had the Bluetooth connection so it already had the voice recognition in it. I then asked about the sunroof, and asked if the control button would be put in the same place as in Camryâs that had sunroofs from the factory. I was told yes that it would be just the same.
I was going out of town the following Wednesday, June 20, 2007, and wouldnât return until June 30,2007. I told the accessories department that I could drop the car off before I went out of town and they could have the work done while I was gone. My whole trip I was looking forward to picking up my new Toyota Camry Hybrid, with all the new items added.
As soon as I returned to town I went to pick up my new car. I was given the key and told that the vehicle was out front. Nobody walked me out to the vehicle to show me what was completed or how to work any of the new items. I walked out to my vehicle and the first thing I noticed was that there were air bubbles in the window tint. I am aware that minor bubbles are normal for the first day of window application, but the dealer had the vehicle for 10 days. I then looked in the vehicle and noticed that navigation system was an after market system not the Toyota navigation system I had been shown on June 15th . The navigation screen was very small compared to the opening that the radio came out of, and although they did put in a frame around it, this item made the car look cheap. I then tried out the sunroof that was installed and when you opened or closed the sunroof to vent mode, there was a grinding noise in the mechanism. I also noticed that on the outside of the vehicle that the sunroof was not even. The sunroof was higher on the driver side than on the passenger side. Also when you closed the door on the vehicle the sunroof moved. I immediately went into the dealership and told them that I was extremely unhappy about what they had done to my beautiful car.
Someone came out and looked at the vehicle and they tried to tell me that all sunroofs moved when the vehicles doors were closed, so I went to another vehicle that had a factory sunroof and showed them that they were incorrect. The accessories manager then came out to look at the vehicle and he realized that the work was not completed correctly. I personally can not believe that they tried to deliver a vehicle in that condition, especially when they had 10 days to complete and check out the work. I was told that we could talk to Jeremy, the sales manager. The accessories manager explained the problems to him and Jeremy looked in the computer looking to see if they had any Camry Hybrids that had the factory options that I wanted. Jeremy said that it could be up to a 6 month wait for a vehicle with the options, because of the high demand. Jeremy told us that I had 3 options, 1) they could fix the original Camry Hybrid, or 2) they had a silver Camry Hybrid on the lot with factory navigation but no sunroof that we could take or 3) they could order a vehicle from the factory with the options I desired, but that it take a long time to get in. I was told that they couldnât do any paperwork for changing out vehicles until the 10th of July, because the books were closed for the month.
I left the dealership and did some things that I had to do because of being out of town. The more I thought about it the more I didnât like any of the options that were given so far. I went back to the dealership and looked at other vehicles that were on the lot that afternoon. I liked the Toyota Avalon and asked if changing vehicles from the Camry Hybrid to an Avalon was an option. I was told to come back the next day. I went back on Sunday 7/1/07 and was told that I could switch the deal to the Avalon, I was also told that this was still considered June on the books, and that they could change the deal. I liked the Avalon Touring addition, they said okay and they pulled it up for delivery and told me I could drive it home. I wanted to get the price settled before we left, but they told me Jeremy couldnât do it then and I should come back on the 10th of the month. While I was waiting on that decision from Jeremy another salesperson was outside and was telling me that the Limited addition had âair conditionedâ seats. I immediately was sold on that idea, and I went into the dealership and told them I didnât want the Avalon Touring addition, but instead I wanted the Avalon Limited addition. They told me to take the Touring addition Avalon home since it was late and we could discuss the Avalon Limited addition tomorrow.
On Monday 07/02/2007 I took off of work early to hopefully find the Limited addition Avalon I would be happy with. On this day I was told by Beth that the only Limited Avalon they had was a dark red one. I definitely knew I didnât want a red car. I knew that they had an Avalon Limited in Silver Pine Mica from my walking the lot the day before. I told Beth about this car and she was completely unaware of this car even being on the property. She went into the dealership to find out about this car and after quite a long time of waiting I was told I could buy it. I was completely sold on this car as I really liked the color and the options it had. I wanted to get the paperwork completed but they said that I would have to come in on Tuesday 7/3/07 because they had to put the vehicle in the system before they could sell it. On Tuesday 7/3/07 I left work 3 hours early so that I could go to the dealership to do the paperwork, or at least sit down and negotiate the price on the Avalon Limited. I really felt uneasy taking this car as we had not even discussed the final price.
When I arrived at the dealership I arrived with an e-mail showing a quote from Courtesy Toyota of Brandon on another Toyota Avalon Limited addition. This e-mail quote was $2500 less than MSRP. They took the email over to the sales pit, and were discussing it. Beth our salesperson came to me and asked if I was ready to do the paperwork, and then she was called over to the sales pit. She then came and told me that Jeremy had left for the day and we wouldnât be able to do the negotiation. I told her that I took off of work to do this and that I have wasted so much time on this. Beth, our salesperson, told me that she had come in on her off day to do this, and they didnât tell her until I got there that they wouldnât do anything that day. I told Beth that I didnât feel right about driving this vehicle because later Jeremy could say that well, you have all these miles on the vehicle now, and you have to pay X amount of dollars or else. Beth told me not to worry that Jeremy said this was my car period. I reluctantly said okay and was told that they would call us as soon as we could do the paperwork, hopefully before the 10th of the July.
I received a phone call on Friday 7/6/07 asking me to come up to the dealership. I assumed that I was finally going to finish the paperwork and have a vehicle. When I arrived at the Courtesy Toyota of Brandon, I was told that there had been a mistake and that my car had already been presold and that they had to have the vehicle back, and get my things out of it. I simply could not believe what I was hearing and completely dismayed. Beth already had another Avalon Limited pulled up to show me. The other vehicle was Titanium Metallic, which was not my first choice in color. I did like the interior of the silver vehicle better though. I agreed to take to Titanium Metallic Avalon Limited but still wanted to sit down and discuss price. I was told that Jeremy was not there so we could not sit down and discuss it, but to come back the next day Saturday 7/7/08. I really wanted to get this settled though. There was extremely nice and helpful person, Barbara, who sat down and discussed the matter with me. I showed her the email that was sent showing the quoted price and she said that on the original deal that they had over allowed for my trade in so normally they couldnât give the over allowance and the price quoted on their own website. Barbara understood that with all that I had been through on this deal that I wasnât being unreasonable. She said since she was not in sales but in finance that she didnât have the authority to make the deal but that she would talk to Jeremy today 7/7/07 to see if he would agree to this price.
I went into the dealership again today and Jeremy came in and talked to me and said that there was no way he would give me the deal I wanted. He said that he over allowed $3000 on the trade and we wasnât going to discount the vehicle too. I told him that he didnât over allow for the trade, which I confirmed with NADA and Kelly Blue Book when I got home. I said that for all the problems, and all the wasted time, an average of 3-5 hours every time I went to the dealership, that he should honor the advertised price. Jeremy decided that he was too involved in the deal emotionally and wanted to step out of the negotiations and have Barbara make the deal, with his or the general manager making the final approval. I asked her since she was given the power, why we couldnât have the deal we proposed the night before, since she thought it was fair. Barbara said that she couldnât because Jeremy had already said no to it. I then asked if I could just get my trade in vehicle back and back out of the deal. She thought that it may be a possibility, and went to ask Jeremy. He agreed and Barbara called to have my car brought to me.
I didnât have the tag for that vehicle so they issued me a temp tag. While they were putting on the temp tag, I noticed a scratch on driver side rear door that wasnât there when we traded the vehicle in, it looked like a key scratch. I then started looking over the vehicle, as I know exactly the condition the vehicle was in when I traded it in. I noticed a big scrape on the passenger side front bumper that was not there before I traded in the vehicle. It was obvious that my car hit something. I stepped inside the dealership and asked if Barbara could step out and look at the damage. She was surprised and said that they would have to repair it. I asked her if I could get that in writing, just because of all we had been through. She went inside apparently to ask Jeremy to put something in writing. She couldnât come back out but 2 guys came out and said that Jeremy had said that they were not going to repair the damage, it is what it is, the damage must have been there before. I told them that the damage was definitely not there before and that they needed to repair it.
When I traded the vehicle in there was a little scraped paint on the front drivers side wheel well and on the front drivers side bumper. This damage had been repaired, so if the damage I pointed out today was really there when I traded it in why would they repair the minor damage on the driverâs side and leave such major damage as is now on the passenger side front bumper? I told the 2 guys that the dealership in fact did cause this damage and that it needed to be repaired. It wasnât too long before 2 other Courtesy Toyota employees came over and started becoming hostile saying that the damage was there prior to them receiving the vehicle and âIt is what it isâ. I looked at the vehicle while it was on the used car sales lot and the damage was not there then. I personally believe that the damage was done intentionally. It was strange the way they were acting. I told the 4 Courtesy Toyota employees that I was going to call the police to make an accident report and they said âwho damaged it?â and âwho was driving the vehicle?â I told them I didnât know but it happened while it was in there Care Custody and Control. At that point they said that we were trespassing and that they were going to call the police to have us removed from the property. I said they didnât have to I was already on the phone with the police about the damage. I informed the police dispatcher of their threat and was advised to move the vehicle to the side of the road in front of the dealership. The police officer did arrive and told me that he document it and that we should contact the owner of Courtesy Toyota. My navigation system which I have in my Lincoln Town Car is now not working, so that is another expense I have to make, taking to have that looked at. I want my vehicle repaired somewhere else. I do not trust anyone at that dealership, besides Barbara Martinez. I have never been treated like this by any business and quite honestly have been called a liar by Jeremy. I have better things to do with my time then to try to lie about damage on my car. I am simply asking to receive my car back in the same condition it was given to this dealership. This car was in excellent condition with only 24,000 miles. I am sure Gator Ford can testify to my cars condition as they always do the servicing of my vehicle.