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KENT, OHIO -- I do understand my purchase of a used vehicle is on my own merit but I do believe dealers should not knowingly sell cars that should be scrapped. I purchased a 98 Subaru for my 16 yr old son for winter driving. After 2 days the battery was dead, no big deal. After 1 week the check engine light was on all the time. new o2 sensors and a compression test revealed a bad head gasket. Dealer at this time was rude, manager pretty much called me an idiot for buying a used car and said it`s not his concern.
Needless to say the car was a 4,200.00 lesson in how to never buy a used car from a dealer. Currently the car is dead and waiting to be junked. I refuse to drop 5,500.00 in a new motor, due to blown gasket, warped heads and possible other block damage.
Again, you should bring a mechanic, inspect the car.... Seriously, Don Joseph, If your that heartless for money, go into politics....
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goduke on 07/30/2010:
Good advice. Always take a used car to an independent before you sign the papers.
GenuineNerd on 07/30/2010:
Also, $4200 is a high price for a 12-year-old car.
Helpful on 07/30/2010:
Some state have laws which regulate this kind of problem. I'm not sure about Ohio, but in certain areas, if the car won't pass emissions testing, a dealer is not able to sell the car. Assuming the cylinder was bad all along, this would have prevented this from happening.

Have you checked the laws in Ohio?
Anonymous on 07/30/2010:
I would definitely check to see if your state has any lemon laws. Sounds to me the dealer sold you a lemon. call 1800 lemon-law or 1800-my-lemon
GenuineNerd on 07/30/2010:
Especially, since the dealership (in Kent) is in a county that requires E-Check. Sadly, many lower-priced used cars fail the E-Check test (which is why many of these vehicles were sold or traded in by their previous owners), and would require costly repairs to bring the vehicle into compliance. Ohio does have a waiver that would allow you to register your failed vehicle if you spend at least $400 in emission-related repairs. And making a failed vehicle pass E-Check in Ohio can be anything from replacing the gas cap or changing the oil to replacing the catalytic converter or having the engine overhauled. Don Joseph Toyota should have sent that '98 Subaru to auction rather than sell it. Most new-car dealers keep their best trade-ins, while offering the clunkers to auction, which will eventually end up on corner used car lots in the inner city. Ohio does not have lemon laws for used cars. Still, the best idea is to have an independent mechanic inspect a used car before buying, to save grief later.
Anonymous on 07/30/2010:
It seems strange that car dealership would sell a used car this old. Your best bet for buying a junker for a good price is from the newspaper or Craigslist. The markups on used cars in dealerships are outrageous. I doubt if the lemon laws apply to 12 year old used cars. It sounds like it was sold as is.
spiderman2 on 07/30/2010:
PC -- the lemon law is not applicable here. For it to be applicable the car would have had to have less than 18,000 miles and have been purchased within one year of the original delivery date, plus it was not sold with any warranty.
Starlord on 07/30/2010:
As is is standard in the used car field, and every dealership I am aware of will send a twelve year old car to auction. A car lot that offers an actual warranty on used cars, and not just double talk tha means nothing, are few and far between. Whether a warranty is given or not, have your own mechanic examine any prospective purchase. If the car lot refuses to allow you to have it checked over, that is a sign to take a walk. There are too many car lots to allow yourself to be taken advantage of.
hcky on 07/31/2010:
Unfortunately the car was an eBay type bid through the dealer, but was purchased at their location. E check was done previously by them so check engine light as I was told was typical for this car. There were many red flags I ignored due to the bad weather at the time and honestly was happy to have my kid in a safe driving car. I can live w/ my pride and the ding to my wallet, but the hard part was explaining to my kid that his car is scrap. I knew the dealer would be useless in this matter after I contacted them 2 weeks after the sale when I had it tested. My only intent here was to pass on a lesson and to let people know what type of honesty that dealership has...
Critical_level2 on 07/31/2010:
Most local dealers around me only put used cars on eBay to see if they can get a few bucks more than what the junk yard or scrappers will give them for it. It doesn't mean the dealership is dishonest, it just means you were not paying attention when buying a vehicle. And $4200 for a 98 Subaru is way over what they go for.
raven2010 on 07/31/2010:
One good place to find cars is Several friends here in Ohio have used them and been successful.
GenuineNerd on 08/03/2010:
A used junkyard engine, installed by an independent mechanic, might be another option, as well as "JDM" (Japanese domestic market) used engines that are often imported to the US from vehicles scrapped in Japan...Japanese laws require that cars be scrapped after so many years or miles...another source for a used Subaru engine. A used junkyard or JDM engine would cost a lot less than $5500...assuming that that is the dealership's price. Independent mechanics can install a used or rebuilt engine for less.
Augustus2099 on 08/04/2010:
4200 dollars wow I would've offered 1.00 for the car. Always have a Mechanic accompany you to shop for used cars. I took My uncle to see a 1995 Ford Taurus and after his inspection He told me to walk away.
excustomer on 08/07/2011:
Don Joseph Toyota hoodwinked an 86yr. old senior citizen into buying a Porche he could barely even fit into when the man took his truck in for an oil change there! This article is in the Akron Beacon Journal 8/7/11. Unreal how they bully and take advantage of customers.
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