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Beware Of Dr. Franks Pet Pain Reliever Spray
Posted by Renfrewite on 01/20/2008
I saw a commercial on television about Dr. Frank's pet pain reliever spray, so I went to their web site. I was very disturbed by what I found. The product has Mercurius Vivus in it, here is the description they give for this:

Mercurius Vivus
The treatment is derived from the element mercury. This remedy has no toxicity because the mercury is diluted to such extremely small amounts.

Mercury is fatal no matter what amount or form it is in, if ingested.

I have sent an email to the company, asking them how they can sell something with Mercury in it.

If I had not read the ingredients in Dr. Frank's pet pain reliever, I would have bought it, not even realizing the damage it would do to my dog.

     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2008-01-20:
Renfrewite, good find, thanks for letting us know. Wonder if the stuff is full of lead too?
Posted by Principissa on 2008-01-20:
Mercury? That is an odd thing to have in something you ingest. I wouldn't give that to an animal let alone handle it. I agree with super, good find, and thank you for posting the info.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-01-20:
Sounds like a horrible product and I wonder how it ever got put into the marketplace to begin with.

Speaking of mercury--and totally off the subject--be sure not to dispose of any of the new energy saving lightbulbs in your regular trash. They too contain mercury and need to be taken to a recycling center. I think that's true with any fluorescent light.
Posted by old fart on 2008-01-20:
Dianec.. you know and I know that that is true of fluorescent lamps but what do you think the odds are that people will actually do that..
I figure 1 in ten thousand..
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-01-20:

'Mercury is fatal no matter what amount or form it is in, if ingested" Wrong answer.
Get your facts right. It ain't good but does not meet the criteria for your statement. http://www.healthatoz.com/healthatoz/Atoz/common/standard/transform.jsp?requestURI=/healthatoz/Atoz/ency/heavy_metal_poisoning.jsp
Blood levels of mercury should not exceed 3.6 ug/dL, while urine levels should not exceed 15 ug/dL. Symptoms of mercury poisoning may be seen when mercury levels exceed 20 ug/dL in blood and 60 ug/dL in urine. Mercury levels in hair may be used to gauge the severity of chronic mercury exposure.
Posted by Renfrewite on 2008-01-20:
To jktshff1, sorry I should have added over time to that. If you wanna chance it you go right ahead. I will not have anything in my house that is ingested that contains mercury. My facts are straight mercury will kill you if you have enough of it in your system. I suppose you still have blinds and paint in your house with lead in them too.
Posted by Renfrewite on 2008-01-20:
Oh and thanks to those above, and you are very welcome. One more thing I forgot to mention, this stuff is a spray, so you spray this stuff on the pets food, or in their water, so it gets in the air and all around where you spray as well, that can't be good either.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-01-21:
Thanks, good post.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-01-21:
OF--I hope people do heed the warning of the mercury in fluorescents, but I know what you mean. Do you remember when they used to have it in science classes--out in the open for the kids to play with? Now, that's scary. The other thing I think about is if one breaks. You are supposed to use care in cleaning up the mercury and disposing of it--like if you break a thermometer. I wonder how many people know how to do that? Not even sure if I do. Need to look that one up!
Posted by wales on 2008-02-22:
Visit the following website for more information on mercurius vivus.

http://www.answers.com/topic/mercurius-vivus?cat=health
Posted by elly on 2008-03-04:
do not worry about dr. Franks pain reliever for dogs having mercury. what he is selling is distilled water for $20. if one looks at his web site, and figures out the concentrations of active ingredients, one would make the solution by taking a gallon of water containing as much of each ingredient as will dissolve and then dilute this gallon with one trillion gallons of water, and that is only the first dilution. there is so little of anything in the solution in the bottle that chemically they cannot even be measured. even the toxic mercury at that dilution is so little as to be nonexistent.
this is a scam. were it for people, it would work for some because we know that placebos (sugar pill) do work sometimes if the person taking them wants them to. of course dogs do not know that so if the solution did work it is because the owner believes they are working, though the animal is still in pain. there are drugs that can be used. see your vet if you do not know those you can use or the dosage needed.
Posted by elly on 2008-03-04:
an add on
i have read the comments and realize that most people know very little about a lot of things and are so frightened about those things they do not understand. maybe it is the times we live in or what our present government is doing, but for all those worried about mercury accept that liquid mercury and a number of mercury compounds are quite toxic, though there are levels below which the toxicity ceases to exist. Dr. Franks is well below any toxic levels of anything unless one worries about pure water.
Posted by matt42 on 2008-03-06:
i bought this product about 3 months ago for my 20yr old dog,and now she is urinating in the house all of a sudden,she has been house broken all her life i just wonder if this is causing it,anyone else have this problem with there dog?
Posted by Renfrewite on 2008-03-20:
Wow if your dog is 20 years old, then as humans do they lose bladder control. My last dog that lived to be 16, had this problem, we really had to watch him, because when he wanted out, he wanted out now, if you waited even a minute he would have an accident on the floor. It's not the dogs fault, it's just old age. I don't think it has anything to do with Dr. Franks though, as elly pointed out it's full of water, but I personally wouldn't use it anyway because of the ingredients in it, even if they are small amounts. My cat that lived to be 28 had bladder control problems in her last year too.
Posted by elshacko on 2008-04-06:
All these reviews and then completely off subject. You start out to review Dr Frank's product and end up talking about light bulbs. Does anyone have any comment that either tells if the product works or not?
Posted by crankymare on 2008-05-15:
I have been suing Dr Frank's Pet Spray for my dog for approximately 9 mths now and I am extremely happy with the results, (btw, her regular water just wasn't getting it - duhhhhh). My 6 year old Gold Ret / Germ Shpd mix suffers from severe arthritis in her hips. Before I found this spray I was giving her all kinds of chemical pain relieving pills from the vet which were damaging her liver and kidneys. If there is trace amounts of mercury in this product - it is no worse than the alternative medication - and this actually works, the pills didn't do much. My only other option was to put her down. I'll take the risk - GLADLY. Also, I don't spray it, I pour it into her water. I also have a question for those freaking out about mercury and lead in the household - how did generations of people get raised in these households - MILLIONS - with no side effects? Just wondering - people are ready to jump on the bandwagon about everything these days. It amazes me!
Posted by chow on 2008-07-06:
How can anyone using mercury as ingredient in their products on animal,and telling consumers it is alright! it will kill the pet gradually, OPP....it is cold blooded!
Posted by Mike40 on 2008-08-05:
Mercurius Vivus is a homeopathic supplement sold in many stores. It is in more things than you think. I can not comment whether Dr.Franks works on your pets or not, but you should reserve comment on the intent or result of his product regarding the ingredients if you do not know what you are talking about.
Posted by old fart on 2008-08-22:
Dianec... remember when we used to coat dimes with Mercury... they were sure purty..
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-08-31:
Oh, by the way it was the copper penny that "we used to coat" not the dime that everyone thought depicted the Roman god Mercury but was in fact Liberty.
Posted by kraftykatie71 on 2008-09-21:
It worked for my 19 yo cat. It didn't work overnite, and it didn't turn him back into a kitten, but the howling and crying out when his back legs let him down stopped. It allowed me to put off the inevitable for a whole year, and without the guilt of making him suffer. I wish I had found this product sooner. I read the ingredients, and when I saw the Mercurius Vivus, I looked it up. It's very common to find it in homeopathic remedies. As for mercury being a scary poison, I'm sure I have more mercury in one amalgam filling than in an entire batch of Dr. Franks pet pain spray! And as for it not being approved by the FDA, that's probably a good thing considering their track record!
Posted by ResearchChem on 2008-11-02:
I am a research chemist for one of the top five pharmacutical companies in the US. I can tell you the medications you take everyday have many things that you would never take on there own, but they are need to make the drugs and improve the wuality of our lives., but that is why the FDA regulated the industry. As for Mercury, it can be found in a few oxidation states, if mercury is bound in a pharmacutical product with the right oxidation state at the correct concention, it is perfectly safe, that does not mean that it will work, but it can be safe.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-02:
ResearchChem, I always thought that mercury was a metal that your body never gets rid of and it will build up in your or your animals system over time? Please give us your understanding on it. Thanks!
Posted by Nohandle on 2008-11-02:
Research, I am curious along with Super. Fill other members in on the information. I am also curious as to how this review posted back in January 2008 earned 46 helpful votes. That must be one of the all time top numbers. Is there something here we might have missed?
Posted by doberman on 2008-12-31:
if you belive the info of FDA who dont even inspect vitimins or supplements how can you believe this product wont hurt you or your pet ,my pet is part of my family and i for one am not going give it something with mercury in it ,i have bought several things off television and almost everthing is just a hoax or junk thats breaks after you get it ,nothing on tv is worth buying thats why its on tv ,their like the fda not checked out for safety by regulations thats why ther paid for by the person selling the product they know its junk and you probabaly send it back cause it cost you to do so
Posted by Ferrari348 on 2009-01-10:
In reference to Dr Frank's homeopathic spray for dogs, I have a 14 year old dog that now acts like he's 7 y/o. Based on most of the comments I've read and what little knowledge most of you have about mercurious vivus, I'm led to believe that most of you are scared of your own shadow.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-01-10:
I know, old post but...
Ferrari....let's hope he lives to 15. I am led to believe you don't give a darn what you put in your own body, much less your dog's. You are being led by something up the wrong trail.
....I got your shadow skooter...
Posted by old fart on 2009-01-10:
I think I've seen a "Dr. Franks" homeopathic pain spray for HUMANS advertised on TV.. I would guess it's the same $hit in a different bottle...
Posted by Renfrewite on 2009-01-28:
If you read the bottle it's mostly water, if you don't mind paying that high a price for water, then more power to you, and the other ingredients are not good either.
Posted by OceanNat on 2010-09-07:
I was concerned that the ingredients listed Rhus toxicodendron (poison ivy) on the label?? Why would I give poison ivy to my dog to drink??
Posted by Renfrewite on 2010-09-08:
I didn't see that ingredient, maybe they have added some more bad ones, since I started this thread. Doesn't really surprise me. To those that would sacrifice your pets life so they can act like a young kitten or pup, shame on you!! Put it this way, if the doctor told you, "I will give you a choice, you can take this medication and it will make you feel like a teenager again, but, it will probably kill you in a year." would you take the medication? Ummmm I am guessing no. I don't believe for one minute this stuff works anyway, it consists of mostly water.
Posted by JIM M on 2013-11-28:
Actually that is not true. People ingest mercury every day in small amounts when eating fish. Dr Franks stuff works beyond good.. We used it on our aging cocker mix. she could barely stand up and walk. after a couple of weeks . she was like a pup almost again.. It really does work ppl. don't believe every idiot that has an opinion on the internet. By the way mercury is fatal if it get in your blood stream. Do your family pet a favor if they have joint trouble and use this stuff. happy thanksgiving all
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Unauthorized Automatic Shipment
Posted by Mcbanjer on 02/22/2008
DEPTFORD, NEW JERSEY -- I recently purchased Dr Franks no pain spray for pets. I am trying it out with little results. My complaint is that they automatically send a shipment out monthly without authorization of customer. What a scam. You try to call you get recordings to leave a message. They don't refund the postage that they sent to you without your knowledge so you get screwed out of postage. Is anyone else having these problems?

What a rip off Dr Franks once they get your credit card number they just automatically bill you monthly, that just burns my butt.
     
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Posted by bargod on 2008-02-22:
Try using some of the spray on youself then.
Posted by Suusan B. on 2008-02-22:
Lesson of the day - - do not give any company your credit card number without reading the fine print of the offer.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-02-22:
What are you trying it out on?
Posted by Starlord on 2008-02-22:
This is a common ploy, If you had read the fine print, you would have seen that by purchasing the first bottle, you authorized them to make the automatic shipments and withdrawals for payment. You can't complain if you don't read the details.
Posted by sunshine619 on 2008-02-22:
Hmmmm, pain relief in a can....interesting.
Posted by Slimjim on 2008-02-22:
The miracle healer for dogs that you spay in their water. I've seen these ads and Dr. Franks hits me as someone that would be on the FTC's press release page in about a year. Now we learn they have good old fashion auto pay billing with no one answering the phone for service or credits. No warm and fuzzy feeling here.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-02-22:
Hey Slim, good Friday afternoon to you!
Posted by Slimjim on 2008-02-22:
Hola and ditto
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-02-22:
Mcbanjer, it's called an autoship and as said already you agreed to it in the very fine and well hidden print of the terms and conditions. Best advice is to get your credit card company to refuse charges from them anymore and/or cancel the card and replace it.
Posted by chris513 on 2008-02-22:
pain relief in a can....sounds like PBR tallboys, if you ask me.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2008-02-22:
Snake Oil??
Posted by y2kjerome on 2009-01-16:
The person asks if anyone has had this problem, not to hear a bunch of comments from knuckleheads who can only tell a person what they did wrong. If you don't have anything constructive to say, just keep it to yourself.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2009-01-16:
jerome, (aka knucklehead) there are explanations given for his problem.

Did you even notice this post is almost a year old? The OP never returned.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-01-16:
Everyone has been keeping their comments to themselves for almost a year...what more do you want?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-01-16:
LOL...hi ya Chuckie...guess we were posting at the same time.
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This Product Actually Works
Posted by CherylsPlace on 09/23/2008
Ya'll can say what you want about the ingredient of Mercurius Vivus in Dr. Franks Joint Pain Spray for Dogs and Cats but the product in nothing short of miraculous! My 12 years old wolf/shepard used to be extremely athletic but in most recent 9 mos. became almost crippled due to arthritis and degenerative hip joints. She was in so much pain that she would attempt to bite most anyone that even got close to her. I was mixing is a full strength aspirin with her food each day which made a big difference in her disposition; knowing, however, this would eventually get her sick via stomach or kidneys - yet was getting her through the day more pain free. I was contemplating putting "her down" when I saw Dr. Frank's ad on TV. Believing there was nothing to lose, I purchased a small bottle not actually thinking it would work.

After 1 week of use, I was nothing short of amazed at her transformation. She once again was running, jumping around when excited and going for walks. She was ready to go in the mornings, running up and down stairs multiple times, no longer laying down to eat and drink. After 2 weeks, her negative attitude reversed completely. She was friendly towards everyone again, excitedly approaching people, wanting to play . . . happy again. She was the dog she once was 5 years earlier. Whether the mercury in the pain spray is at toxic levels or not - its effects are astounding. Nothing short! When her time does come, at least it will be much later than it would have been without the spray and she can go with much more dignity than she would have otherwise. When you do care about your pet, the quality of their life is crucial.

To be in extreme pain. depressed and isolated for months to years, I do not believe is in their best interests. I will use this spray until she no longer responds. I highly recommend it for all pets with serious and chronic joint pain. Don't comment if you don't know.
     
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Posted by Slimjim on 2008-09-23:
Very helpful post. There have been some postings here that the product does not work in cases. At least now there is one documented it did. Also interesting mention that the product has mercury in it and the possible trade off logistics.
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It's Like A Miracle
Posted by Scruboak56 on 06/03/2012
Recently I was given an old, big dog (around 10 or older). He was overweight and lost the weight when ill over the winter. Still he had great difficulty getting up and down, from arthritis. A friend gave me a 1/2 bottle of Dr. Frank's Joint Pain Relief. It worked like a charm, IMMEDIATELY. Friends who saw the dog one day, saw him a few days later and commented on how much better he was. So I went online out of curiosity to research the company. After 2008, there are no more comments about Dr. Frank's product for animals. But what's interesting is a veterinarian with her own products pops up when trying to find this product. And there is a deluge of websites with negative comments! My bottle is dated June 2011, I've been using it for 6 months and it'll last a long time. My Vet said this breed (black lab) often doesn't live past 10. I am giving him a better life in his last years of life. I'd hate to think the company is being shoved out because it's too good to be true. One bottle should last a year. I also tried another more expensive product, chewies that I got at out feed store. Didn't work as well!

     
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Posted by trmn8r on 2012-06-03:
It's a homeopathic remedy. I wouldn't use it, but I'm glad you found it useful.

Looking around, it appears there is a version of this for human's that was equally successful as the version for cats and dogs.

When I see reviews that are either very postive or very negative, with nothing in between, that is a red flag to me. That is the case with this product.
Posted by trmn8r on 2012-06-03:
Incidentally, "homeopathic" remedies have been found scientifically to be as effective as placebos.

I think it would have to be a "miracle" for it to work, as the active ingredients are 1 part per trillion from one article I read.
Posted by gaye e on 2013-03-08:
This product worked very well for two old pugs of mine. I am sorry if it is not available. I saw great results very quickly!!!
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Thinking Outside Of The Box
Posted by DR. LUKE on 12/05/2009
I would like to comment on the opinion that the homeopathic spray for joint and muscle pain by Dr. FRANK is unsafe having mercury in it that who ever is interested to learn something wonderful should examine this form of medicine called HOMEOPATHY . I have been studying and using this form of medicine for most of my life. I have used HOMEOPATHY on my children and suggested it to others and with wonderful results..There are all sorts of forms of arthritis and all sorts of natural remedies for each type but HOMEOPATHY which is what this form of spray is, may only work on certain types. Medicine is NOT an exact science, medicine is an art. Every living creature is a little different than the next. The form of mercury in this spray is not harmful. I WILL SAY THAT THE MERCURY IN THE VACCINES THAT ARE USED IN CONVENTIONAL MEDICINE ARE VERY QUESTIONABLE. Remember always consider the source. Anyone who puts down natural remedies may be in the pharmacy business or ignorant about the subject. Ask this question why did I develop arthritis and or why did my pet develop it? Also what is the form that my pet or I have ? Aging ? Maybe our bodies are not absorbing the nutrients from our food the way they did when we were younger ..Adding high quality supplements fresh natural food sun and air to any medicinal program is key to good health. Also remember as we age our hormones deplete and so do our pets. Hormones regulate all of our bodies functions. You may also want to google THIS "NATURAL HORMONE REPLACEMENT THERAPY" Try all forms of natural medicine something will work IT always has for me. Love to all.!!
     
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Posted by old fart on 2009-12-05:
????????????
Posted by MRM on 2009-12-05:
Old Fart, think outside the box man!
Posted by old fart on 2009-12-05:
That's WAY outside the box...Dr. Old fart!
Posted by Neptune31 on 2009-12-05:
Dr. Luke is dead-on about taking action on diet supplementation. So many people live on packaged garbage, it's a amazing there aren't MORE health problems.

And while I'm ranting, everyone should take the extra time at their next grocery store trip and read the label of everything that goes into their carts. It makes for a pretty good wake-up call (watch how fast you lose count of how many products contain high fructose corn syrup - I can't even get started on that one, but google it and many of you will feel the outrage that I do).

Good stuff, Dr. Luke!
Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-05:
the ingredients list mercury?
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