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Rude and Unprofessional Behavior
Posted by Smegma on 02/24/2013
FLORIDA -- The officer in question pulled me over on 01/29/2013 at approximately 10:45am (Traffic Citation # XXXX-XXX). I pulled over on the sidewalk to avoid blocking the flow of traffic and lowered all 4 windows so that he could have a clear view of the interior of my vehicle. I waited for the officer to come to my car he asked me for driver’s license and insurance. While removing my Florida state driver’s license from my wallet, he happened to see my New York state driver’s license and asked to see that also. He took a brief look at all three documents and said to me that he should have me arrested for a felony in having two driver licenses. Also, he stated that he had an appointment to go to and if he can get someone to cover for him he will arrest me. He then went back to his vehicle spent about six minutes and came back with my both licenses and then stated “my name”, get rid of it. Don’t carry it on you. Keep it at home…keep it at home in a safe place. You got two licenses; this says expired, but when you run it, and I was wrong about 19, it expires 14…but, it’s a valid license ok….” Then that conversation went on to the other citation that I received. But my problem is with that officer is that he said, without knowing the facts that he is going to arrest me. Does he think that I’m some illegal immigrant or did his mother just not bring him up properly? He as an officer had no right to talk to me in such a manner. I knew he was wrong but, with his attitude at first, I wasn't willing to tell him otherwise fearing he might have pulled me out the car and did a cavity search or something uncalled for. His attitude was not pleasant at all. I can understand that they are in a highly strung and tense situation, not knowing what to expect from the driver or, in some cases, the occupants of the vehicle. However, the act of common courtesy goes a very long way. I know for a fact that if that officer didn't tell me that he’d arrest me, I would have never wasted thirty minutes of my life to write this letter and possibly tarnish the FHP name plate, but I felt offended by his contemptuous manner towards me. He should be looked down upon as a Trooper for approaching a non-threatening motorist in that manner. And what makes it worse is that he, as a law enforcement officer, failed to gather the appropriate information before making an erroneous statement that would mortify anyone who’s not a threat nor has ever been one.

Also, I must say at his current age I think you all should re-evaluate his abilities to be a Trooper. Apparently, Corporal MXXXXX is very color blind stating in the citation that my lights were showing the color “RED AND BLUE” which was clearly not the case. They were purple and white, the colors of my HID kit. So again, at his geriatric age I think you all should have him see an optometrist and keep him off the road until he can correctly distinguish between the colors “RED AND BLUE” and purple and white. In my opinion that’s and epic fail on his part.

Additionally, I’m pretty sure this letter won’t get anywhere nor, will Corporal MXXXXX see any type of psychiatric treatment for his rude and unprofessional behavior. I personally believe that a human being who approaches another with such barbaric behavior should not even be in possession of a firearm. These are the types of people that shoot up schools, movie theatres, etc., and make owning a firearm more difficult for all the righteous citizens and gun owners all across America. In any event, I am fortunate to freely be able to at least express my concern and I hope that someone reads this and hopefully a copy of this would get sent to Corporal MXXXXX’s email inbox, as well as a pair of eye glasses delivered to his mailing address.


     
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Posted by Anna Molly on 2013-02-24:
Just a stupid question here: why do you have dl's in 2 different states? Do you have residences in both states?
Posted by Alain on 2013-02-24:
You can contact Citizen Services at 850-414-3990 or contact the Florida Attorney Generals office via
http://myfloridalegal.com/Contactnsf/Contact
for clarification or further action on this matter. However, in many states (if not all of them) it is against the law to carry to different drivers licenses (from the same state or another state and even if one is expired).
Posted by Nohandle on 2013-02-24:
In my state a driver's license is renewed every 4 years. The individual must physically have it renewed and a new photo taken at that time. None of that do it the easy way on the internet and keep your same photo. I would expect there are many cases of people moving to another state, obtaining a license there and retaining the old license in a wallet unless the new state requires surrender of the old one. I never knew there was a problem with an additional license.

I'll attempt to remember that in the event I move.
Posted by I_love_wally on 2013-02-24:
Your lucky you didn't get a citation for parking on the sidewalk.
Posted by madconsumer on 2013-02-24:
having lived in several states, and getting a new driver license in each, it is a law to surrender the old driver license before the new one will be issued.

being florida, with all the illegal aliens they have, i can understand the officers side.
Posted by Pizza for lunch!! on 2013-02-24:
Seriously? He said he would arrest you for a felony? I think a judge would be pretty angry for wasting his time with that kind of charge.

I too, have had two drivers licenses in the past at no time was I asked to surrender the one from my previous state. Let's all clean out our wallets I wouldn't want to be a felon. Geez!!!

Posted by BobSF on 2013-02-24:
You are arrested if you get a ticket, it doesn't mean they haul you down to the police station.
Posted by Jeff on 2013-02-25:
Sounds like the officer just had a stick up his you know where......
Posted by Smegma on 2013-02-25:
i know the stereotype of ppl from new york... but in reality i still have my learners permit/ driving junior (DJ) and my drivers license(D) from ny.. i was nor did i ever have to give up my license to DMV. and as a memento i still carry my ny license with me daily in my wallet. that trooper nelson martis was wrong and he's lucky he hadn't put me in cuffs. in any case i have sent the above email(s) to his supervisor as well as to tallahassee. ive gotten responses but nothing really great. again ppl im not complaining about the citations i have received i was wrong there with my tints and halos being illegal. this is about his intent to arrest me.
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911; Sorry...wrong number?
Posted by Flexanimous Fellow on 04/19/2010
The weather has been rainy in the South Florida area recently. Many drivers fail to be extra cautious, and thus, roadside fender-benders and guard-rail collisions have become as common as mile markers on some of our freeways.

Yesterday, while traveling the freeway, I witnessed a car heading northbound on the Florida Turnpike swerve across three lanes of traffic and slam into a guardrail. It seemed to be a serious collision, although I wasn't entirely sure since I was heading southbound. Nevertheless, I decided to phone emergency services to report what I witnessed.

I dialed 911. The operator came on the line fairly quickly, stating "Miami-Dade County 911; do you need police, fire or medical?"

I explained that I just witnessed an accident on the Florida Turnpike.

The response: "Stay on the line, let me transfer you to Florida Highway Patrol."

A couple seconds later, a gentleman's voice states "Florida Highway Patrol."

As soon as I stated the location I was calling about, he states, "Stay on the line, let me transfer you to that sector."

A couple seconds later, another operator states "Florida Highway Patrol; do you have an emergency?"

I explained that I just witnessed an accident on the Florida Turnpike northbound, just north of 88th street. She then asks the relevant information, such as the vehicle description, if there are any injuries to my knowledge, etc.

Shortly after hanging up the phone with the last dispatcher, fortunately I did witness a few FHP troopers racing northbound with lights/sirens activated, presumably to the scene of the accident.

There really needs to be a better emergency response system in place. I understand that there are different public safety agencies, each having their own jurisdiction, and dialing 911 from a cell phone can often misroute the call. However, measures need to be taken to reduce this from happening, perhaps through consolidation. Being transferred from agency to agency until you finally reach the right dispatcher for your area should not be tolerable during emergency circumstances, when precious seconds are being lost that could mean the difference between life and death.

I hope that driver turned out okay. Fair warning to all; slow down during inclement weather..not just for the sake of your own life, but the lives of others as well.
     
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Posted by GlitteringFirefly on 2010-04-19:
Have you ever dispatched ambulances, police officers, or firefighters? In most instances, these department are only able to put information in the computer for their particular area. It saves time having them transfer you versus having them write down the information you give them and call themselves. It is a very busy, fast paced, stressful environment
Posted by FlShopper on 2010-04-19:
In Florida, you dial *FHP and it takes you right to the Highway Patrol.
Posted by Flexanimous Fellow on 2010-04-19:
Personally, I have never dispatched police, fire or EMS. However, my mother did for 15 years. I have had plenty of opportunities to see what their job entails, and the level of stress involved. In no way am I criticizing the individual dispatchers for having to reroute my call. If they simply are unable to help me given my location, what else are they to do?

My complaint is with the system as a whole. I suggested consolidation, where instead of designating particular dispatchers to handle certain areas, consolidate them into one large public safety answering point, thereby encompassing multiple jurisdictions to help relieve some of the transferring.
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Hit And Run Complaint
Posted by Fl_suds on 06/01/2007
ORLANDO, FLORIDA -- Neighbor hit auto in driveway and when asked denied although had my paint on her bumper and her paint on mine. Her daughter made statement that "I was in the car with her and she didn't run into you-she backed into you". Then neighbor made comment that she didn't hit fender, she hit the door. The officer refused to give a report, but said we had one to fill out on our own and handed me a form which will not stand up in any court. She hit our car then left the scene. When asked about it, she denied. Then when caught in her tangled web of lies, agreed to pay for damages. Is this not, hit and run? What is wrong with this customer service officer?
     
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Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-06-01:
What did you want the police to do? Lock up your neighbor? They got her to take blame for the damage and she agreed to pay for it. The officer knew that without an eyewitness it was a "he said/she said" case and not worth tying up court time and money over.
Posted by rhondam718732 on 2007-06-01:
100% disagree Hugh. Every lawyer or judge worth their degree will tell you that for ANY car accident you need to get a police report . . written by POLICE. It is your 100% credible backup about what happened. And if there truly was transfer of paint on both cars and only one person was complaining about being hit (didn't sound like the neighbor with the kid was trying to tell the officer that she was hit) then it's a simple report and obvious conclusion...not rocket science. People agree to pay for damage all the time, but when the bill comes they disappear, refuse to pay, etc. That leaves the person with no repair or a hefty bill.
Posted by shawnp80 on 2007-06-01:
fl suds, Hopefully you took pictures?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-06-01:
100% agree with Rhonda... No matter what there should have been a police report. That is part of thier job... Sounds like the cop was lazy.
Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-06-01:
At least in my neck of the woods, the police no longer write reports for parking lot mishaps that don't result in injury. They simply don't have the time to do it. If there is a dispute over who's at fault, that is for a court to decide anyway. You can still take the other party to court.
Posted by Noneill on 2007-06-01:
As I understand it, if the fender bender was on private property, the police will not take a report. Take good pictures of the damage and write down everything as you remember it - her statements, daughter's statement. That along with photos will prove your case.
Posted by Pomona Guy on 2007-06-01:
You should've told the cop you had a box of donuts in your car and they were damaged. He'd of sent CSI in.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-06-01:
What is a F.H.P. doing answering a call about a fender bender in a DRIVEWAY? Why didn't you call the POLICE? Customer service officer?
Posted by Starlord on 2007-06-01:
Most departments will no longer respond to private property/property damage accidents, Many will give the owners insurance information cards, so the owners can exchange all pertinent information and let the insurance companies do their job. If the other party fails to exchange info, take pictures, document everything, get estimates and go to Small Claims Court.
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