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Faulty Paint Job!
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I just bought a 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix! And I am not too happy about the car I just bought. When I first got the car I took it over to a car wash and had them wash and clean it up for me. Well I noticed when they were drying the car off pieces of paint were coming off my car. Then I noticed it in other places where the paint on this car was just peeling right off. The other day I was at my mechanics and went and had brakes put on my car and I happen to look up on the passenger side bottom rim and notice a piece of something hanging there. Well it look to me who ever painted this car forgot to take the piece of paper off and it got painted over. I know its a piece of paper cause I took my fingers and folded it back up there to place. I am like really disappointed and I feel I should get a new paint job because GM failed to paint this car correctly and whoever was working on the paint left the paper up there and painted right over it. I checked a car fax report on this car and seen nothing about a new paint job. SO this tells me that GM and their employees did a lousy job and was just trying to get the car painted as quickly and cheaply as possible thinking us consumers wouldn't notice what a lousy job they did. I will never buy another GM car again just because of the paint job they did to my car. I feel this paint job needs to be re done and not at my expense. Paint is peeling right off in spots and on the passenger bottom beneath the door to the ground there is a piece of paper stuck there with Paint on it. And that piece of paper is still there. I am very disappointed and I got 3 yrs left to pay on this car! And one more complaint I got on my car is when I make sharp left turns there is a squeak noise coming from somewhere and me and my mechanic cannot figure out where this noise is coming from. Its really annoying going down the road and when you turn left you hear squeakkkkkkkkkkkkk every single time and we have no idea where this noise is coming from. All I can say Is I think I a piece of you know what!
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Anonymous on 01/31/2010:
Is this a typo? Are you really complaining about a ten year old paint job?
Anonymous on 01/31/2010:
How do you know the car wasn't repainted?

andbran on 01/31/2010:
I doubt they are going to claim respondsibility for it. I mean it was ten years ago. just go to macco.
Anonymous on 01/31/2010:
I thought the carfax report supplied mechanical and damage information. Not paint jobs. The car is 10 years old. Take it somewhere and have it painted.
ndrulez on 01/31/2010:
Four year loan on a ten year old car. Hmm. Anyway, did you ever consider spending a few bucks up front a having your (a) mechanic look over the vehicle. It is good advice and a great investment. The paint job sounds like a "$99.95 any car any color" paint job because there is very little if no masking when the parts are painted at the factory.
dan gordon on 01/31/2010:
car mfctrs don't use paper when painting a car. The whole body is dipped in paint then sprayed before anyparts are put on. the fact that you see masking tape painted over tells you that someone had a fender repaired etc etc. It is pretty lame to blame GM for a 10 yr old paint job.
Critical_level2 on 01/31/2010:
Sounds like the previous owner of the car took it to Maaco to get a quick paint job on there. When cars are painted at the factory, hey do not mask anything, as the body is painted before the car is assembled. Sounds like a cheap Maaco paint job.
Anonymous on 01/31/2010:
yep. I agree with everyone else here. Its a 9 year old car. It was probably cheaply repainted to sell the car. I wouldn't be blaming GM, Id be finding out who repainted the car and blame it on them if the paint is cracking off.
Starlord on 01/31/2010:
You just bought a nine-year old car and you're complaining about the paint job? If this were a new GM car, I could understand the complaint. I have noticed a great many late model GM products that looked like they were doing a tiger impression. I think the Gm paintjobs since they went to that electronic job where the body is charge one way and the paint gun the other really doesn't give a good paint job. When new cars are painted at the factory, I don't think they mask anything off with paper, the bodies are painted, then the windows and trim are installed afterwards. If no one can find the squeak,then they aren't looking for it. We had a car that had a aqueak like that, turned out to be in the steering wheel.
redmx3racer on 02/01/2010:
Not only do they not tape/paper up cars at the GM factory when they are painted-do you really think a piece of that tape would have stayed on the car for 9 years?
Everything you mentioned should have been noticed, and could have been noticed, by YOU before you bought the car.
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General Motors Automobiles
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I purchased a 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix two years ago. It just wished me a Merry Christmas with a repair quote of $850 to repair a lower intake gasket. After some research this has been a major problem with GM vehicles across many of its vehicle lineups.

I am sorely disappointed in the quality and service GM has given over the years. A few days ago I traded it in for a Honda.

It will be a long time before I can trust another American auto manufacturer. This hasn't been the first early death of an American car that I have owned.
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Mario The Great on 12/25/2007:
Honda of America Manufacturing started in Ohio in 1980. They now employ 12,500 people. I believe that the Toyota Tundra is also USA made and I'm sure other people on this forum can tell you where other cars are made. I do know that my most reliable car was my 2005 Hyundai Santa Fe. Yes, it at gas like an 8 cylinder but it was nice and more affordable than the Chevy Blazer we were looking at.
Anonymous on 12/26/2007:
I believe the intake gasket goes haywire too often with Pontiac, but never, never on a Hyundai, a Hyundai, a Hyundai, (cause that's the car that's best.)
dude in lude on 12/26/2007:
tundra's are made here in San Antonio TX, Nissans are also made in California too.
mydogbozo on 02/03/2008:
Yeah those lower intake gaskets were a problem. See quite a many of them when I worked in 2 different GM dealerships. Probably about the same as the QUAD4 head gasket problem of the late 80's / early 90's.
wildjyoung on 02/07/2008:
Anyone who can read can do research and see that the American manufacturers have closed the gap with foreign cars when it comes to quality. In fact, Buick is the top rated brand in terms of quality. Do you think that foreign cars never have problems? A friend of mine has a 2007 Toyota Truck that is on its 2nd transmission or 3rd engine due to bearing failures.

I understand that American cars had issues in the past. However, things have changed and quality has drastically improved. In my opinion, people who always rip on American car companies put foreign cars on pedestals and believe they never have an isuue. That is simply not true!!! Go ahead and pay more for a foreign car because you believe it is more reliable. I have a high level of confidence that I can put an American car up against your foreign car anyday in terms of reliability and quality. I would not have said that 5 years ago but I can today.

I have owned 7 GM products and have put well over 150,000 miles on each of them with no abnormal issues (brakes, battery, alternator). In fact, I had a Pontiac Grand Am with 227,000 miles with the original alternator, and starter. It has no issues the entire time.

All I am saying is that people should wake up and stop putting foreign cars on pedestals. It is amazing how people will pick apart an American car due to their bias but not do the same with a foreign car.

I would bet a lot of money that in the next few years Toyota market share is going to decline and GM will increase! In fact, I invested a lot in GM stock because of it.
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Won't buy a Pontiac again
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LINCOLN, CALIFORNIA -- Bought a 2001 Pontiac Grand Prix Coupe used in 2003. Had only 45K miles, ran good (then) and was generally happy with the overall performance of the vehicle. Then all kinds of things started to go wrong with the car. First electrical problems blowing fuses and now when I start it up, it runs OK till the engine warms up then it loses all power. Thought it was the tranny but a diagnostic found nothing. Then to the dealership where purchased who promptly sent me to the Pontiac dealership itself and they wanted $300 just to check into it. So I took it to the nearest auto repair facility and they charged me $80 to tell me what I already knew about the car,... loss of power. Too bad I can't suspend the payments while I try to find the money/time to get this lemon fixed. Second GM product and will be my last. Going back to Japanese. Oh, in case you're wondering, GM is a big company and I don't have all day to sit on the phone and jump through hoops just to talk to a rep who will eventually tell me it isn't their problem. And we all know that's exactly what will happen.
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theshadowknows on 05/12/2006:
Try contacting Honda or toyota as see if they give a rats behind about your problem.
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