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Do you like salty nuts?
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Well, if you do, then you have stumbled upon the right review my friend. There has been so much talk lately in the news and on gripe sites about various fast food chains altering their formula for success by switching the type of salt used on their french fries, that I felt obliged to weigh in on the subject.

However, my review is actually catered towards the protein packing peanuts from Planters. My wife bought a can from a bulk store, so it has been lasting us quite some time. I believe it's 3-lbs & 8-0z. I actually didn't notice until tonight. I have the can sitting next to my desktop at home, and I've been munching as I spend some down time on the net. I was reading some comments in regards to sea salt, when I glanced down and low and behold, right there on the can are the words, "Made with pure sea salt".

And to think that I've been munching away all week and hadn't noticed? Long story short, there may be a slight difference, but not enough for me to notice. These mixed nuts are delicious. They contain peanuts, almonds, cashews, brazil nuts, hazelnuts, and pecans. A wide variety for all you picky eaters out there in the world. I have a 3-lb can, so anyone else that is craving some protein, help yourself to my nuts.

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Anonymous on 12/13/2011:
I asked my wife, and she said she didn't notice the "Sea Salt" tag either.
clutzycook on 12/13/2011:
LOL, J4A, good review!
DebtorBasher on 12/13/2011:
Can you pass a pound of those my way, please? Warning, I pick out all the cashews first!
Anonymous on 12/13/2011:
The cashews are the best part!
trmn8r on 12/13/2011:
Looks like just a marketing ploy to me. It would take quite a refined palate to distinguish the difference, especially after having a couple of ounces. You know how that goes - after a couple mouthfuls the tastebuds deaden a bit. Maybe I'm just a pig. I go for lightly salted when I'm munching on nuts.
Alain on 12/14/2011:
I've chowed on these and never noticed the sea salt, either. They're a good munch, which is pretty much all I'm interested in! Good review, J4A!
madconsumer on 12/14/2011:
good review!

although those nuts are full of fat.
trmn8r on 12/14/2011:
That's a good point madC. Personally, I no longer buy nuts for that reason. If it isn't the salt, it's the fat. I love nuts. These days I live vicariously by looking at nuts instead of eating them. The can above satifies my need for today.
Nohandle on 12/14/2011:
I don't remember when within the past year I've not seen on the Planter's label *Made with Sea Salt* on the products that I buy. I have no idea if other brands are doing it or not. Nuts are a fantastic source of protein and I don't consume that many to be worried about the fat content.
Venice09 on 12/14/2011:
The fat in nuts is the good kind. That doesn't mean you can pig out, but you shouldn't avoid them either.

The problem with sea salt is that it doesn't contain iodine, which most people get from regular table salt. With so many fancy salts out there now, people are actually experiencing iodine deficiencies. Just something to keep in mind when choosing a variety of salt.
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
NH, you're exactly right. What most people fail to understand is that there is a difference between good fats and bad fats. The polyunsaturated fats found in nuts is a good fat. Obviously, too much of any fat can cause weight gain, so it's all about portion control. 1-2oz of nuts per day is best.
Venice09 on 12/14/2011:
Just, you said it better than I did.
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
lol Venice, we seem to post in conjunction quite often.
Venice09 on 12/14/2011:
I guess we're on the same wavelength. :)
trmn8r on 12/14/2011:
You are in conjunction? Are you guys hanging out with that other planet?

Pick your exits wisely...
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
I don't think I'd had enough caffeine earlier. I was thinking 'in unison' but conjunction was what got typed.
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
Justcuz> Blaming the caffeine? Face're just nuts. Rather ironic, considering the topic.

*dodging a 3-lb can of mixed nuts being hurled at near light speed*
Mrs. V on 12/14/2011:
If you like nuts Pistachios and chestnuts have the lowest fat of the nut familys. They are high in the 'good' fats and low in the 'bad' fats ^_^
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
Mrs.V> Oh, I do love me some pistachios! Just the regular style though, none of that fancy stuff like green-chile pistachios that are pretty popular in our neck of the woods.
Mrs. V on 12/14/2011:
J4A - I love pistachios myself ^_^ I like them just lightly salted in the shells.
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
As with everything else, nuts are healthy to consume in moderation.
redmx3racer on 12/14/2011:
Thanks for the good review, and also adding a little bit of humor as well. Question-was the picture chosen because it was a "2 pack" of nuts? Or is that just a coincidence?
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
redmx3racer> Depending on where I'm at, I will usually take a picture of the product myself. But since I was already logged onto the computer at the time of the review inception, I decided to just Google a picture of the can. It shows a two pack, but my wife only purchased one can.

*somehow, I foresee a bad Lance Armstrong joke in here somewhere?*
madconsumer on 12/14/2011:
it is true, the fats in "RAW" nuts is of the goodf type. but the fats that are added to proccessed nuts is the bad kind. the lable on these nuts state "peanut or cotton seed oil" added. this is where the bad fat comes from.

raw nuts are a great additive for any dieter. not procesed ones.
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
Actually, peanut and cotton seed oil are just fine. Both are considered healthy (aka good fat) and cotton seed is recognized for the antioxidants it provides.

The main difference between raw and processed nuts is that processed nuts lose some nutritional value and raw nuts have a much shorter shelf life.
Starlord on 12/14/2011:
Ultimately, all salt is sea salt. Whether it is dug out of a salt mine or collected by evaporating sea water, it is all from the sea. Alton Brown had an interesting episode of Good Eats one time, where he had exotic salts from around the world. We need a certain amount of salt for our bodies to work correctly, and our word for pay comes from the Latin salarium, as Roman soldiers received at least part of their pay in salt. Gandhi was once arrested by the British for leading a March to the sea to get salt, rather than paying the British overlords for it. I am not so sure that nowadays, we really need the iodine added to table salt, but as this is the first I've heard of it, I'll keep an open mind. Good review, good info.
lexophiliac on 12/14/2011:
A negligible amount of salt comes from outer space.
Anna Molly on 12/14/2011:
MmmMMMMMMMMmmmmm...nuts! I love 'em all.

Good review.
Anonymous on 12/14/2011:
Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt.
nikalseyn on 02/24/2012:
I assume you work for Planters.

You can buy the same size can, and probably made by Planters anyway, from WalMart for one dollar cheaper. Same peanuts, salt, everything. Just contained in a WalMart branded can.
lexophiliac on 02/24/2012:
justice may be nuts but I'm pretty sure he doesn't work for them nikalseyn.
DebtorBasher on 02/24/2012:
You are what you eat...LOL!
JISCal2 on 02/24/2012:
I had so much to add to this post, but I won't turn J4A's review into smut. :)
Old Timer on 02/24/2012:
Awwwww, nuts!
DebtorBasher on 02/24/2012:
John...smutty? No way!
Anonymous on 02/24/2012:
JISCal2> Are you a smut nut?
JISCal2 on 02/25/2012:
LOL J4A I am very discriminating when it comes to the nuts I will put in my mouth. >:-X haaaahaahaha
Donna on 07/05/2012:
Salt is salt. Long before the fats in nuts get to you the salt will kill you. Talk to a good cardiologist about what you are doing to yourself. Buy the no salt kind.
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Information On How Kraft Really Works When Not In The Consumers Eyes
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WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA -- Kraft foods I have worked at the winchester va facility going on 16 years. Now although we have changed are name a few times we have been Kraft foods for over a decade now and boy has it changed. Where there once was superior quality in are products there is now no quality. We have been cutting budgets on the floor dealing with blue collars the most. We cut everything we can to create more jobs for white collars who do nothing in this facility. We have in the last few years cut our cip steps which is cleaning in progress which cleans the machines so you do not get mold and other forms or spoilage in the product.

We now work more less 6 days a week do to having to change from a 7 day schedule because are employees are suing us for violating labor laws which I will get to in a minute, but are cleaning really don't really exist anymore only on shutting down after working 6 days in a row to do cip and boy you wouldn't believe the mold that builds up on these machines in six days, compared to when we used to clean a machine cip about every other day. This creates run time though which makes money the only thing Kraft cares about anymore. We used to have a operator of the capri sun machine watch the machine watching for all types of spoilage issues which you wouldn't believe you can have in just a few minutes if you are not watching to catch these issue's. Kraft has cut many jobs which help to achieve quality causing operators to have to deal with dumping their own slop and trash while machines run with no one watching quality which if a machine is running bad this operator could be away from the machine several times through the night. Leaving this machine running spoilage issues right out to the public this does not get noticed on the books though because we make so much of this product so easy the numbers of complaints don't hurt because there is more volume that no one complains about.

We also do not worry about other issues anymore with quality we used to address wrinkle issues and other form of bad seals that can cause spoilage by getting are technicians to fix these fast before it came to a problem now a operator has to run no matter what as before we had the right to shut down till fix bad seals which means maybe weak or cracked letting air through the seal can cause spoilage also which now if a tech can't fix which mostly happens every day on at least several machines as we run 23 the operator has to keep running this out the door and quality is nothing as this operator may only catch a few of these defects as he may be doing someone's else job that they done away with as dumping the trash which us to be contracted through kelly or manpower which also goes into another job going away such as utilities on the back of the machines which used to also help quality by checking supplies that was being loaded into the machine now being replaced by kelly employees who are Spanish and have no clue about anything dealing with quality as most every Kraft employee can't speak Spanish which also causes many safety concerns as with are moving equipment we can't tell them what to do or not or let them know there is stuff going on they need to watch for.We have also been cutting down on are cost for materials as to making these products as cheap by making thiner such as pouch foil which they have this way to thin now causing light fills wrinkles all types of seal defects and damage to the pouch as it is being packaged I have never seen any place work with such careless efforts towards quality and all the jobs they have done away with has generated cheaper more jobs for the white collars who do nothing also giving them higher bonus and now word of 5 extra days off every 5 years as before all got treated the same as blue collars get treated as scum anymore working like slaves and every benefit a blue collar had is getting taken away as insurance and all the rules that the company had to protect these employees by making a handbook every year gets changed to benefit Kraft because Virginia has a right to work law and if a employee stands up for herself she can get fired which leaves to the lawsuit that the employees are trying to get through where winchester violated the blue collar civil rights by before the employees had to work seven days a week rotating shifts a employee would work seven days starting on Saturday day shift of 2 on Saturday and Sunday after working 2nd shift work Monday through Friday off 5 days till Wednesday working Thursday through next thursady another 7 days in a row every time we worked seven days in a row they made fall between two different weeks so it wouldn't look like we was working these in a row so they would not pay us time in a half for this time which was a federal law that they had to pay us when working over 40 hours in a seven day period this also hurt us even worse as with these hours between weeks even tho we worked well over 40 hours we barely even got a 30 hour pay check because on the books it looked as we hardly worked now since Kraft has got when that we know they changed this to a five day schedule as knowing we could never make the numbers as we did working seven days in a row we now have to work manatory overtime every day even if u volanteer to work for a emloyee during this time they will deduct time from the person who was on manatory overtime also because they can't use her even more trying to use the employees time up so they get less days off also since we make less now we work 6 days most of the year even though the employee is on a five day schedule the six day is also manatory overtime giving even less of a family life to these employees while a white collar barely even putts 40 hours in a week in as to Kraft advertising they care about people they don't care at all about blue collars and they will do anything they can to get these people to burn their time up or cause them hardships when coming to geting time off for illness or hardships in the familyies
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BlueVelvetteer on 11/01/2007:
you forgot to mention all the good things the company does for us!! THE TURKEYS THE HAMS THE PARTIES THE BONUS! I guess I'm the only one with the nerve to even make a comment here!
Anonymous on 11/01/2007:
My son likes their mac & cheese.
FED UP!! on 11/01/2007:
No your not the only one with enough nerve...I'm here! I totally agree with everything you posted!! I also agree with BlueVelvetteer-the things the give us are nice. But save the dramma for your mama's and get realistic!! The parties are for the "front office" folk now. We are looked down upon for trying to have a good time,the bonus is great but not don't even think of it! I am glad bill214 that you took the initiative to do this!! Maybe other employees will wake up and realize we have to stick together or it will all fall apart!!
Get a Grip on 11/01/2007:
If you're so unhappy do all of your co-workers a favor and QUIT!!! Take a McJob while you go back to school.
team winchester on 11/02/2007:
I have a few comments about Kraft-Winchester for both Bill 214 and FED UP!!!.
#1 If you have a problem with this facility you have a few choices. The first of which is to go to the appropriate person in management and discuss your issue. The second choice would be to terminate YOUR OWN employment.
#2 Bob Jones! This man has had an extremely rough past year! How dare either of you make such rude comments about the man! I think that you are the most incompassionate person that I have ever worked with! And if you have been here that long we all have worked with each other at one time or another. There are always going to be people that you don't like that you work with, no matter where you go. To name names....that's really low!
#3 This facility has always changed and will forever change, some call it progress. With the economy the way it is...we are not the only facility or company changing. Be thankful that you have your job. We have always changed, got stressed, faced the change and went on about business and we always end up on the top. Remem
I may not always like my job or some of the people I have to work with but I will not disrespect my co-workers. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Jones and what decisions he makes. He has to follow corporate rules too.
Have a Wonderful day TEAM WINCHESTER!
(Hopefully this one will spread through the facility as fast as the negative one did!)
radioactivebeacon on 11/02/2007:
What good would it really due to complain to management? All we are in their eyes are numbers anyway. All The top people care about is one thing,Getting that product out they don't care how many jobs are getting redefined,or how many people are getting reduced, or how many hours we work,because in the end management doesn't lose pay or time with their families. So really what good would complaining do? To be worked like a dog complain and then be criticized about complaining? Yes that really shows off Team Winchester.
rabbit325 on 11/02/2007:
All of this crying on the internet isn't going to solve anything. Why not bring all of your problems up to the front office, or talk about it during success sharing meetings. We have one of those once a month and we are asked for any bi+c#s, moans, or gripes. All you are doing is hanging our dirty laundry out before the world. None of these internet people are going to solve your issues. If you are too cowardly to bring these issues up at work, where they can be resolved, then just leave! Nothings keeping you here except a check, and OUR (note the spelling) TEAM doesn't need that kind of person on it. So stop this Bloging and stand up for your selves on the job like men, or shut up and leave. Written by Dan And Scott in the pouchroom. Note: We are not afraid of saying what we think but since we do not know who you are we had to do it this way!
Team Winchester 1 on 11/02/2007:
I have been at Kraft for six years, don't tell me you can't shut down a machine that you are having issues with. That is your responsibility as an operator. As far as cutting cost, it is a companys duty to it's shareholders and employees to make a profit, show me a company that does not cut to increase profit, no profit means no jobs. Winchester has made cuts but every effort has been made to effect as few people as possible. As for working like dogs, get real it's not a daycare it's a job. It is your duty to do the best you can. As for HR there door is always open to anyone I have never had a problem with getting answers or help with a situation of any kind. You can talk to anyone from plant manager to business unit manager to HR coordinator and facilitators in confidentiality. One more thing if you are that unhappy Quit get out. What kind of person would stay where they do not like where they work. Or would make accusations without using their real name.(cowardly) Kenny A-Crew KAB
caprisunman63 on 11/02/2007:
I cannot believe all the whining and complaining I've been with Kraft many years sure there has been change some good some bad but you must adapt and change with the circumstances you are confronted with take a negative and turn it into a positive I would like to address to accusations of the non compliance to the strict sanitation policies that KFNA implements it sets forth such stringent CIP guidelines which is reflected in every audit and inspection that is done by KFNA We at Kraft have a marvelous record in all categories which would explain our high ratings which reflects our very generous success sharing payout With the state our economy is in at present we should all be grateful to be working for a major player in the food industry which I believe at this moment is ranked number one globally In closing I would like to say that over the years KFNA has provided myself and my family a comfortable standard of living I have some years to go but plan to retire when the time comes Thank You Kraft Foods
sirmixedupalot on 11/03/2007:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.'ABE LINCOLN' HARD WORK spotlights the character of people,some turn up their sleeves,some turn up there noses and some don't turn up at all.bill214,THIS IS NOT THE VENUE TO DISCUSS MANUFACTURING PROCESSES.SHAME ON YOU.WE MAKE DRINKS THAT KIDS LOVE.miles r. warehouse 2nd shift.
bill214p on 03/30/2008:
I think I need to respond to all of the negative remarks that came from the individuals who posted the comments regarding Kraft Winchester. First of all the employees at the factory have no clue as to how things need to be run and how they are being run. For years the employees were being cheated out of their overtime until "someone mysteriously wrote a letter to the company pointing this out" and now all of a sudden we were put on five day working shifts and it was made to look as if someone in human resources done this one their own to better the company----which is total bull this was done to cover their ass. As to the comment that someone needs to stop whining on the internet and go to the people in charge. Come on people give me a break you know as well as anyone that if you work at Kraft Winchester there is no close door privacy and there is no confidentiality. Obviously, if they are up against having a million dollar lawsuit filed due to their violation of the fair standard labor act going to the front office would never help as they would want to get the employee out of the factory as soon as possible so they would not have to deal with the situation or pay the money which is owed. Everyone knows what goes on with everyone else in the factory. If anyone at the factory goes to the so call "people in charge" there will not be anything done and they would do whatever they could to get you fired. This is someones personal opinion and if some people don't like it then they don't have to read it. This company is based on who you know and not what you know. Certain people CAN go into HR and make a complaint and something is done but other people who just want to work and are not in the "click" have no chance. If everything is so great then why is moral so low in the factory and if you think that everything is great then obviously you are one of the people in the so called "click" and have no common sense as to how a business should be run or how people should be treated. Just reading these comments it does come across somewhat rude but these are the straight facts and it sounds as if someone has put a lot of time into this factory and they keep hoping that things will turn around for the better and hopefully someone in charge will read these comments and have the balls to make the necessary changes and help the employees to get the money and respect that they so deserve.
bill214p on 03/30/2008:
I think that times are hard and that people should stand up for themselves .Writing these things on the internet about that facility really might not get things resolved that is a thing I'm sure everyone must know ,but it really comes down to these simple facts it really seem to sound like they exist .Often sounding in the negative as most factories do now a days I'm sure that Kraft foods do try to work with people when they are confronted as this surely is their job. But as the people at Kraft really need to realize is that what the employee had stated seems to be a real concern that the people really need to know .If they were breaking a law as bad as a federal law such as the Fair Labor Standards Act A company as big as Kraft Foods will be in denial all the way to the end with this being such a big deal as it sounds it will take "People Knowing " to get those employees that have been neglected their Overtime Wages that has so long not been reported. It is great to hear employees taking up for this company.This will happen ,but as I have read these reviews and it sounds to me as this employee has and does respect this company .But you have to look at other sides also those employees who have been taken advantage of their Civil Rights deserve their Loss Wages .It would be a great thing to get these employees what they should have had for years ,this would be very hard as Kraft would be a big company with lots of money .This is sad as it may sound is a world that seems to only survive with money and as Kraft has it it could take in many places even as you guess the Federal government as I know this of other stories .If these facts aren't being put out to the Public it will be hard to not get cases such as these swept under the rug .It is fine if those employees want to take up and give the company back their wages "Those " meaning the ones that write commenting about the Big one posted ,but I'm am very sure lots of the other employees really would like their money and to feel that someone had stood up for Their the posting said those employees shifts changed shortly after this was acknowledged as surely Kraft realized they was "Busted".I'm sure if the employee who had stood up for these employees went into the HR office and said this the employee would have been lied to in every means about what was going really going on. They would surely like too nip this in the bud fast .And with Virgina being a Right To Work State the employee could easily be fired for any reason and if they filed suit this could easily be slept under the rug .
ejryle on 07/28/2008:
I know what you say is true...As a consumer of Kraft products specifically caprisuns I am very displeased with the way such a huge company handled a problem I had with a box of capri suns. I bought a box of caprisuns about 3 months ago and my 6 year old daughter brought it to me to taste. It tasted terrible, like a strong chemical or something. I called Kraft and they sent someone to pick the product up There were only 3 left in the box and my 4 year old daughter had been throwing up for 3 days, she had been the only one to drink the others in the box. They finally sent me a letter today and said there was a foreign pink colored substance in the pouch and a fermented smell. It turned out to be mold, but offered no explanation as to where it may have come from or what type of mold it was. I will be contacting the fda tomorrow. I think they may be hoping I don't press the issue further. They sent me a bunch of I really want to be buying their product with the way they seem to not be handling the issue. The letter was obviously a form letter and didn't even make much sense. I hope you do get improved working conditions and the respect you deserve, because you obviously are one of the few that actually cares about the producy you're manufacturing.
panda8 on 02/09/2009:
panda8 on 02/09/2009:
Anonymous on 02/09/2009:
Posted By: bill 214 on 10/28/2007!!!!!!!!!!!!
Julanne03 on 06/30/2009:
I actually have an ongoing issue with Kraft @ the moment. we purchased a box of kiwi strawberry capri suns and the damn thing was riddled with foregin debris looking like chicken or fish. Quite disgusting! YUCK
CapriSun_no_Sun_there on 06/10/2010:
Why doesn't someone call the news or the Food & Drug Administration? Krafts standards are terrible, if not nonexistant
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Easy To Make Desserts & Step By Step Videos
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I decided to try some new recipes for the holidays, and was googling for jello recipes when I found being a jello pudding and jello gelatin lover, I wanted some new recipes to try. And boy did I find them!

I found a lot of easy, creative ways to use jello pudding and gelatin. And for the holidays to make a yummy dessert that is pleasing to both the eye and the tummy.

The first one I tried was the Chocolate Elegance. Mine doesn't look as pretty as theirs, but for the first time trial run it looks OK. Nuts were expensive, so I used Skittles and M&Ms. Next time, I will spring for the nuts lol.

All in all, it took me about 15 minutes to prep, and 5 hours in the fridge to set, and cost about $3 each to make.

The next project is the Raspberry Angel Cake, only I am doing Cranberry instead of raspberry.

We will see what happens.

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Principissa on 11/25/2009:
The chocolate lover in me wanted to pick off all the M&M's. Man that looks good!
skelly39 on 11/25/2009:
I gained 10 lbs just looking at the pictures. Thanks, Lady!
BEJ on 11/25/2009:
When can I come over and enjoy those good looking desserts.
Anonymous on 11/25/2009:
I will try to make the one on top and soon!
Anonymous on 11/25/2009:
Thanks ya'll! And Zz, the one on top is the one I was TRYING to make lol!
Anonymous on 11/25/2009:
I bet it tasted good. I would go without the Almonds, though.
There is nothing better than "red" Jell-O with Pinapples and grapes in it!
goduke on 11/25/2009:
Oh...I'm thinking that's going to be eaten right up. Looks quite yummy.
Anonymous on 11/25/2009:
My mom makes a jello salad that has those little red cinnamon candies melted into it, and then added fruit. It was really good! Recently I saw a thing on the History Channel about gelatin and how its made. Couldn't eat jello for a little while but it was short lived.
Anonymous on 12/20/2009:
Twisted, better to die from fattening, yummy dessert than cigarette smoke in my opinion.
PepperElf on 12/20/2009:
that looks good
considering they always use photo-tricks to make their own look outstanding

beside its jello... it's a lot less unhealthy than other things out there
like burgers
Anonymous on 12/20/2009:
I made more. I will post those photos when I get home tonight. The truffles turned out YUMMY.
Anonymous on 12/21/2009:
Posted pic. My next attempt is a chocolate mousse cake...
laklisa on 12/21/2009:
I love the site-they have great recipes. I have made several dinners from recipes found. Great pics!
Maybe that is Twisted's problem-she doesn't eat sweets so that makes her sour? (okay cheap shot, but could not help myself)
PepperElf on 12/21/2009:
I've never tried that one
maybe I should
I usually go to for free recipes

but it's never a bad idea to have more than one site :)
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Postum, no longer available
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I have been drinking a quality product provided by Kraft Foods Company. It is called Postum, but it has become unavailable recently. No explanation has been available to any of the retailers who carried this product. I would like to know why it has been discontinued, and if it is ever going to be available again. I also enjoy herb teas as a morning beverage, but Postum is a more substantial beverage, with a coffee like flavor. I am very disappointed to not be able to continue purchasing it anywhere.

I can't find an address to Kraft to write directly to them. I am hoping that this note might find someone who will know how to contact them and get a reason for the cancellation of an excellent product.

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Anonymous on 11/19/2007:
Wasn't Postum originally made to be a fake coffee during World War II, when coffee beans were unavailable? I would imagine there isn't enough of a market left to support a product like this.
Hugh_Jorgen on 11/19/2007:
You are right Ken - I Googled it and Postum was invented as a coffee substitute. The places that sell it seem to be out of stock, so it might be a goner. However, I did find a do-it-yourself recipe for homemade Postum...,1630,149185-250198,00.html

spiderman2 on 11/19/2007: here is a page with lots of information. Maybe you can find the status there.
Starlord on 11/19/2007:
Postum was invented as a coffee substitute, and is older than I am (61). I would be willing to bet that sales figures, if they can be obtained for Postum, will show a serious decline in demand for the product. I undesratnd it was quite tasty, but if people don't buy it, the company won't make it. I will contact Food Network, as there is a company that has been on Unwrapped a couple of times. If you are looking for a product that has been discontinued, this place probably has it in stock. I will get back to you on it.
LeeSee on 11/19/2007:
I found this site. They say they have it. $8.60 a jar
Mamallama on 12/14/2007:
I have been drinking Postum since I was a little girl, and I STILL love it... I haven't' been able to buy it for the last month and it's driving me crazy! And for the record I have never used it as a coffee replacement, though I have a friend who does and both of us have been to every grocery store in our area over the past week, looking for it . I really want them to bring this product back! Believe it or not there are many who want it. This can't be the end for this product!
d_powell on 12/28/2007:
Postum was created in 1894 by C. W. Post as a healthy alternitve to coffee and has been adding in the healther living of millions sense. Kraft consumed Post and now has decided to discontinue this healthy product for a more lucritive unhealthy products.

Feel free to e_mail the CEO of Kraft @ and make your comments directly to her, She used to be Marketing Director, Beverages for Kraft. So Please write her and voice your concerns.
RJinPECO on 12/31/2007:
My mother drank Postum all the time but we lately we've been having a hard time finding it in the stores. Finally did a search online and found out at wikipedia at that it had been discontinued. There is a number listed at that article and I called to ask them to bring it back. The number is 1-800-431-7678. I am now going to email Ms. Rosenfeld at the email address listed in one of the above postings about Postum. Thanks for the email to whoever posted it. Happy New Year all.
p.s. I just went to but when I searched for Postum there were no listings for it. They must have sold all of their stock since their website was listed above.
SC Pickle on 01/05/2008:
I have been drinking Postum since the late 1960's as a morning beverage. Lately I have had a terrible time finding it in the grocery stores. I decided to "google" it and am glad to find out there are others who are missing it also. Thanks for the email address to write to the company. I just can't tolerate caffine in coffee very well and hope this is just a short-term absence of Postum on the market.
missingpostum on 01/07/2008:
I am very upset that Postum is being discontinued! Post a comment on in the community section letting them know your opinion on the subject.
AmyH1111 on 01/08/2008:
My boyfriends mom is a huge fan of Postum and went so far as to contact the Post family that started the business - they have discontinued it with no plan to bring it back. We ended up giving her 11 jars that we were able to get before they sold out as a Christmas gift.
bookwrm2 on 01/10/2008:
I think I have found a source for Postum in Canada. I just placed an order from the website. They said they ship to the U.S., so we'll see what happens.
Nick Name on 01/20/2008:
Postum was invented in 1895. Long before WWII and any coffee shortages and overbearing taxes that we still have to pay. It tasted good. Kraft never advertised it and since people are so controlled by advertising the demand dropped off. They could have done better. Big Corps don't give a damn! That's all.
helpdeskdan on 01/22/2008:
This is not the end! There are OTHER COFFEE SUBSTITUTES! I just tried Pero and found it to be remarkably similar to coffee flavored Postum; maybe even a bit better, in fact. Goggle "coffee substitutes."
jktshff1 on 01/22/2008:
coffee substitutes are kind of like turkey sausage...just don't cut it
piyene on 01/29/2008:
There is literally not a time I can remember when I didn't drink Postum and I'm 52. My mother and my grandmother were both Postum lovers, as well as their offspring. All 3 of my teenage and early twenties daughters make a cup many times a week. It is heartbreaking to our entire family to no longer have Postum available. And no, we are not Mormons, we’re Presbyterians. Postum knows no religious boundaries.

I have never, ever seen advertising for Postum, and it seems like little effort has ever been made to market this beverage - and yet - it still has an extremely loyal, geographically diverse, demographically diverse, in fact almost fanatical following that is devastated by your decision to remove the product - and all this following with little (no?) money spent on a marketing campaign! Even if you only sold it online and increased the price, I know you'd still have a large buying public - my family included. My strong preference would be to be able to buy it again in the grocery - like we have for 100+ years. Or even shop it around and see if you can sell Postum to someone else to distribute. Anything but making it never again available! Even if you posted the recipe online and let us make it ourselves. We’re all that desperate! You truly don’t understand how distraught those of us who love Postum are, or how frustratingly helpless we are in the face of corporations, so all we can do is write and call and beg.

Have you googled Postum and read the blogs?? The first half is all testimonials from when it was readily available –before any decisions to discontinue to it were made so it’s all just people who love Postum – no Axe to grind. Scan to late 2007 and start reading and see how distraught, and how quickly the blog entries increased, once people started figuring out it was gone.

I drank 4 to 5 cups EVERY day - it is the most comforting drink imaginable and I am heartsick at your decision. Please, please, please - reconsider and bring Postum back. It's a beloved American icon, as well as a cherished, multi-generational daily ritual. Please - I beg you.

Here's information that took a wee bit of time to gather, but it's all we can do; perhaps it will be sufficient:

Here are the email addresses for the CEO (Irene Rosenfeld) and Kim McMiller
Associate Director, Consumer Relations:;;

Here's their official email contact form:

and here's their message board:!reply.jspa?threadID=1700001478&messageID=1700014357

Here are their phone numbers

1-800-431-7678 customer support
1-847-646-2000 head office

I wish us all luck.
piyene on 01/29/2008:
Here's information that took a wee bit of time to gather, but it's all we can do; perhaps it will be sufficient:

Here are the email addresses for the CEO (Irene Rosenfeld) and Kim McMiller
Associate Director, Consumer Relations:;;

Here's their official email contact form:

and here's their message board:!reply.jspa?threadID=1700001478&messageID=1700014357

Here are their phone numbers

1-800-431-7678 customer support
1-847-646-2000 head office

I wish us all luck.
valhalla3 on 02/03/2008:
It is reported that Kraft Foods has discontinued Postum. I just wrote to them threatening to do what ever I can to expose their disregard for their customers and the health of their customers. I think the more people that write and complain the more chance of getting them to not discontinue it.

The following is the address to contact them online:

The gereral site is:

Here you can use the "contact" link, click on any FAQ question and then click on "still have a question"

or the following is the address to get to their contact form (if it works)


ohb0b on 02/07/2008:
Thanks for the links. I have written to Ms. Rosenfield expressing my disappointment. In these days of health consciousness, I can't believe Kraft would pull the plug on a product like Postum.
Because of high blood pressure, I limit my caffeine intake to one cup a day to jump-start my nervous system. Postum is my beverage of choice, it is the only beverage with the "body" of coffee. I drink at least two cups daily.
I hope this turns into the next "New Coke" marketing fiasco for them!
During my online research, I found many people drink Postum for health reasons; Cancer patients, migraine sufferers, people with gastro-intestinal problems, high blood pressure, etc. Additionally, many members of the LDS church drink Postum because their religion forbids caffeine. I was allowed to drink it as a child when the adults were having coffee.
So, there is a sizable niche market there, and with a little promotion, a naturally caffeine free product with a coffee-like taste, could be turned into a money maker.
If there is not a big enough profit for Kraft, they could sell the brand. It would make a nice "cash cow" for a smaller manufacturer. This may be the ideal solution.

ohb0b on 02/07/2008:
"This is not the end! There are OTHER COFFEE SUBSTITUTES! I just tried Pero and found it to be remarkably similar to coffee flavored Postum; maybe even a bit better, in fact. Goggle "coffee substitutes."

My grocer GAVE me a jar of Pero to try... yucch! I returned it after one serving! There is no substitute for Postum.
ohb0b on 02/08/2008:
I was intrigued by a post on another board asking about making Postum at home. Maybe we can come up with the recipe.

Here's what we know so far:

There are four ingredients: wheat bran, wheat, molasses, and maltodextrin.

Wheat bran and wheat (cracked wheat)are available in health food stores.

Molasses is available in the grocery store.

Maltodextrin is just a commercial starch. It is sold under the trade name Maltrin. While it is available in small quantities over the web, and probably sold in GNC and other stores that cater to the body-building crowd, I'm sure there are substitutions, corn starch may be a good place to start.

Ingredients are listed on the package in order of percentage.

The wheat and bran are probably run through a grinder, a coffee grinder or a blender should do the trick, then mixed with the molasses and starch, and roasted. Since this will tirn into a powder after the liquid from the molasses evaporates, I suggest a slow roast, on a cookie sheet, stirring often.
After roasting, they may have to be put back into the grinder to break up the chunks.

So, all we need to do is figure out the right percentages of ingredients, and roasting times and temperature.

I'll post my progress here, others are also welcome to post. We should call this some other name, so as not to get in trouble legally. Kraft still owns the trademark on Postum, so we need a new name. I'm also open to suggestions. Meanwhile, I'll refer to it as the coffee substitute.
dolfingrl360 on 03/01/2008:
I googled it and apparently it was discontinued last winter and it had been around for 112 years! people are selling tons of jars on eBay and there is a couple available on Amazon but they also have a ton of other replacement brands that are pretty much the same thing. my grandma has been drinking it for years so I'm on the hunt for it too just like everyone else seems to be lol
JanetS on 03/05/2008:
If thousands of people would write "snail/surface mail" letters to Kraft Foods CEO:

Ms. Irene Rosenfeld
Chief Executive Officer
Kraft Foods, Inc.
3 Lakes Drive
Northfield, IL 60093

it might help. Physical letters and faxes carry more weight than e-mails, which are easily deleted, and don't take up space in their mail room, etc I have written to Ms. Rosenfeld. Kraft should have advertised Postum. Unless people find out about it accidentally, or by word of mouth, no one knows about it. If someone could locate Irene rosenfeld's FAX NUMBER, that would be terrific, her fax could be clogged with thousands of letters from unhappy Postum fans!!!! :)
jcmansu on 03/15/2008:
here is the link I found with her fax number made public\

Three Lakes Drive
Northfield, Illinois 60093

United States

Phone: 847-646-2000
Fax: 847-646-6005
Gina_RN on 03/16/2008:
I tried to see if I could order Postum somewhere on the Internet. Well, $30 a jar! Yikes! So I sent a fax to Ms Rosenfeld today. Please join the cause!
heleb on 05/30/2008:
I am very, very sad at the discontinuing of Postum. My whole family has loved it for 60+ years. My grandmother used to drink it every day. We are from Ecuador, and even there is now impossible to find Postum anymore. I hope that Kraft changes its decision and brings it back soon!
jan9829 on 08/29/2008:
Thanks, everyone, for info on how to contact Kraft. Maybe if enough people respond they’ll reconsider bringing Postum back and actually advertising it! I’m almost 50 and have been enjoying this unique beverage since college—great with a little creamer! Keep the postings and info coming!
dlh on 03/22/2009:
Am I correct in suspecting most posters on this topic are either Adventist or Mormon?

While becoming more and more scarce (and pricey) Postum is still available on eBay.
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False Advertising and Aspartame Poisoning
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SOUTH BEND, INDIANA -- My fiance and I try to eat and drink as natural as possible. His mother gave us a container of Crystal Light Natural Lemonade packets. I saw the word "natural" in larger print and didn't think to look on the back for any serious additives. One packet makes 1 quart of lemonade. We had been drinking this lemonade for a total of about three weeks, during this time frame my fiance started feeling muscle pains in his back, abdominal and groin. We didn't think much of this until the pain started increasing as well as unusual fatigue and headache. This past Saturday, my fiance and soon to be father of my child was rushed to the hospital by an ambulance. That morning he woke up with severe lower back pain and nausea. He then suffered a seizure and that is when I called 911. After suffering intense pain, a CAT scan revealed that he had passed two kidney stones to his bladder. My fiance has never had a seizure or kidney problems prior to consuming aspartame in this product.

I would like some sort of compensation for false advertisement, and the grief and stress this has caused my family and unborn child. If I don't at least receive an apology, I will be sure to inform my whole community of the dangers lurking in Kraft Foods products.
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madconsumer on 06/27/2012:
kidney stones take time to form. I am not sure if they can form in a few weeks. there are several means of kidney stones, but most common is from calcium buildup from not drinking enough water.
spiderman2 on 06/27/2012:
I thought everyone knew Crystal Light was a diet drink. Right on the container it states 35% fewer calories. I am very sensitive to things that are put in "light" chips (olestra). You better bet if I happen to run across a bag of those I read the label before I risk eating any of them.

This link tells you how they can claim it is natural. I feel bad for your boyfriend's experience, but you have to read labels!
Tezrien on 06/27/2012:
Sorry that your boyfriend got ill, but it wasn't from aspartame. Kidney stones take months to years to form. Here is info on the kinds of stones there are.

Starlord on 06/28/2012:
I never understood why my lemonade mix uses artificial flavors while my dishwashing detergent has real lemon juice. I also have to say that the juxtaposition between the drinking of the lemonade and passing kidney stones are unrelated. Events that happen closely are not necessarily cause and effect. One night, I changed the batteries in my flashlight, and a white powder came out and got all over my patrol car, including my coffee. After I got off shift, I got sick, and I thought it was poisoning by the white powder. It turned out I had a bad gall bladder that had nothing to do with the powder, which was apparently corrosion from the batteries.
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Strange taste/texture of food item purchased
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FRISCO, TEXAS -- I typically love Kraft Simply Fat Free cottage cheese; I actually drive out of my way to a specific store to purchase it. However, my latest purchase (January 30th, 2012) has made me reconsider future purchases. The cottage cheese had a strange smell/texture upon opening the package, which was not expired. The taste was very bland (NOT typical of this product!) and the consistency was very thin and runny - almost like soup.

I am extremely disappointed, as I have to make a special trip to purchase this product. I am not sure if this is an isolated incident or if there have been recent changes in this product's manufacturing process. It is a bit more expensive than my grocery store brands, so I hate to try again if there have been recent changes made.
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Venice09 on 02/01/2012:
Did you pick up the unsalted version by mistake? I did that once and couldn't believe how tasteless it was. I don't like salt, but certain foods must have it, like cottage cheese. That wouldn't account for the consistency though.

Call the 800 number on the container and let them know. Have the container handy when you make the call in case they need any identifying info from it.
Razzel on 02/01/2012:
I tried Kraft sour cream and relly liked it so when I saw the cottage cheese I bought it. It was the regular kind and everything was fine but the taste. It's different enough that I won't buy it again.
Jan on 03/11/2012:
This was my first purchase of Kraft Simply Cottage Cheese - when I opened it, I was sure it was either spoiled or the wrong product because of the weird texture. I did taste it to determine it wasn't spoiled, but it is too unpleasant in texture and flavor to be described as cottage cheese.
Paul on 07/18/2012:
I got sick from Simply Kraft Fat Free Cottage Cheese Small Curd 24 oz. (from Walmart) [Sell before August 29 2012 18:41 TS2 PLANT 06-246 It had a strant smell (yes) so I ttried to "sweeten" it with Splenda, curry powder and cinnamon but it made me (seriously) sick for several days. The USDA does not accept complaints about food from consumers (Obama's rules) and neither does California (state government). Neither does Kraft.. so there is no place to report it (unless it kills you and then maybe the fire department can report it). In any case I got very sick from it. Now I see to be over it. If it smells bad -- it is bad. It was expensive but it is not worth being killed.
Hayat on 03/09/2013:
Kraft Simply Cottage Cheese tastes like chalk. I can't believe this crap has been around for 2 years and I have just now had the misfortune of being screwed into buying it at Walmart because the great preferred brand of Deans disapppeared.
MAZ on 04/23/2013:
I tried this for the first time on 4/11/13 when I ate it for lunch. Within 45 minutes I had severe abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhea. I ended up in the emergency room with suspected food poisoning. Then, six days later, during a routine examination, I was diagnosed with a streptococcus infection in my bladder.
Tomw on 08/04/2013:
Nasty taste and texture
Peter McCarron on 08/17/2013:
I purchased CB Extra Sharp Cheddar made with 2% milk from Rainbow Foods in St. Paul, MN.

It was uneatable and very bland

Please send me a few coupons in the mail for the same product made WITHOUT 2% milk.

2045 Goodrich Ave
St. Paul, MN 55105
RJH on 08/20/2013:
This is the best cottage Cheese I have ever eaten. It is tooooooo bad that you can only get it at Walmart. They never stock the no fat version. It is creamy, solid, and taste more like cheese instead of rotten milk.
Evan on 12/01/2013:
Surprised about all the complaints! I typically get off-brand to save $, but I have gotten a few jars of Kraft's Simply cottage cheese and it's the best I've ever eaten! The texture and taste are perfect. It seems people must have gotten bad batches, because this stuff is great
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Chemical box taste of Kraft Mac & cheese
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Not sure what Kraft did to the original Macaroni & Cheese dinner, s but with the new box design came a horrible new taste! It smells odd when the "cheese" mix is added, and tastes like a combination of cardboard and chemicals. Kraft can write "original Flavor" all over the box if it makes them happy, but it doesn't make it so! Whatever was done to cheapen up the product just lost you a 40 year loyal customer, along with everyone else I'm telling about how awful the taste is now.
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bargod on 04/05/2011:
I havn't noticed any change and I eat it all the time too. Maybe you bought a bad batch or something or maybe one of the workers fell off a catwalk into one of the mixers.
Anonymous on 04/05/2011:
Add some extras to it: cheese, jalapenos, tuna, peas, etc
bargod on 04/05/2011:
I like to stick some weiner into my KD.
Anonymous on 04/05/2011:
Tastes the same to me.
Ytropious on 04/05/2011:
The blue box mac and cheese where you add butter? It has tasted like crap to me for at least 5 years now. I can't bare to eat the stuff.
clutzycook on 04/05/2011:
it tastes like a combination of cardboard and chemicals because it IS a combination of cardboard and chemicals! :)
Anonymous on 04/05/2011:
Old Cheese Sauce:
Modified Milk Ingredients, Cheese (Milk, Bacterial Culture, Cream, Salt, Microbial Enzymes, Lipase, Calcium Chloride, Colour), Salt, Sodium Phosphates, Citric Acid, Flavour, Color (Contains: Tartrazine) Sorbic Acid.

New Cheese Sauce:
Cheese (Milk, Bacterial Culture, Salt, Cream, Lipase, Microbial Enzymes, Calcium Chloride, Colour), Modified Milk Ingredients, Salt, sodium Phosphates, Colour (Contains Tartrazine), Flavour, Citric Acid.

The lists look the same, but the changing of the order suggests that they've changed the base to a different, (presumably cheaper,) type of cheese. This could be Kraft's way of keeping the price of KD low in the face of rising food costs.

DebtorBasher on 04/05/2011:
I believe this was looked into some months ago when people complained of a chemical smell ... it had something to do with the boxes. But, I can't remember what it was they said about it...I'm sure if you Google it, you'll find some info.
midnightstars on 06/13/2011:
I'm glad we're not alone. We were starting to think our milk or butter was bad. We made two boxes,the second box made with new milk and butter,and it tasted the same as before. The kids won't even eat it! I think I'll just stick to making my own from now on.
bootlesscries on 11/05/2011:
look people, mac and cheese has always been a low end crappy product marketed towards people with no time to make real food, and it always will be.
mee too on 09/17/2012:
I noticed the box smells funny wondered if it was the new color dyes used in making the box and transferring to the product? If you buy the single boxes it taste like it did before the box change I think because the plastic is not holding 5 boxes together with the dye smell "locked in". All that said it does not taste good anyway. Get a few bags of dry Macaroni and some Velveeta and make your own or any cheese other than Kraft Have you noticed a lot of foods taste funny? best food mayo taste funny for a while now what are these places putting in our foods? I wish I could buy all farm grown and not have to buy from our government with all the poisons they add no wonder people are so ill look at wheat it has not been the same for 50yrs! most people can not eat the foods of today I'm in my mid forty's and now have trouble with my health and not much food is digestible to me but not many choices for a diet most food does not get along I have to eat something even if I get wheat belly sometimes.
FreedomFighter on 12/08/2012:
I know that this thread started a while ago, and hopefully you know by now, but Senomyx is the company responsible for the new and unimproved bad taste of Kraft products. They utilize human embryonic cells to test artificial flavors due to the speed and efficiency of the method compared to sampling methods conducted by market research with real food and real people. The new flavor is not a flavor at all, but a flavor enhancer targeting the human taste of umami--the fifth taste aside from salty, bitter, sweet, and sour. The additive is in such small quantities that does not need to be added to the ingredient list. The current FDA regulations therefore are limited in scope, as this "enhancer" doesn't need to be tested in the same manner as other food additives and can only be investigated to a point where is is generally recognized as safe. Do some more research on Senomyx, Kraft, excitotoxins, and flavor enhancers and I guarantee you will want to fight the good fight with me and completely restructure your diet to whole and natural foods. Cancer can be blamed on smoking, water quality, and genetics, but when you take a look at all the chemicals we take in from packaged foods, you might start to see how corporate America has been lying and lobbying to keep us in the dark and their pockets full.
mee too on 02/11/2013:
I wrote back on 9-17-12. I have been buying dry mac and making my own mac and cheese without Kraft products. Mayo tastes weird also as I had said, all Kraft is weird I do not support this company they have not figured out how to slip us the crud in our foods like other company's without us tasting it. If you like the box idea there are many store brands that taste good without the chemical flavor.
AlbinoKitten on 05/30/2013:
I just made some and almost threw it out because I thought it had gone bad, but I checked another box, and the 'cheese mix' looked and tasted the exact same.... so I taped the box back up and decided there was nothing wrong with it. I just now went online to see if I was the only one this has happened to. I'm really surprised that they changed the taste! I suppose I'll add something to mask the grossness of it for now. I'll be buying a different brand of mac and cheese from now on.
BobMacCheese on 07/06/2013:
We just tried a box tonight and the cheese taste is gone. Did anyone else notice you now need to add 1/2 cup milk instead of the 1/4 cup milk they had had forever. Starch is now a major ingredient and you need to add more milk to make the sauce as there is less cheese now. Does not taste cheezy anymore. Not worth buying.
marklynd on 07/09/2013:
I used to enjoy KD once in a while. After tasting it recently, as well as reading these posts, I will no longer purchase this product.
MeToo! on 08/23/2013:
I just tried some tonight. It was not overdue but I thought it must be. When I was a kid, I say without exaggeration, KD was my favorite food. It really tasted like cheese. This tasted, as it has for years now, like poison chemicals. It is not Kraft dinner now, except in name. It is the most vile, insipid garbage. It should be called Ersatz Dinner, and it should show a picture on the front of starving people trying to make bread out of sawdust and a handful of wheat. I actually kept thinking I'd just forgotten to make it. And another tip: if any company EVER changes the flavour "to make it more cheesy" or whatever, they are only ever doing it to save money by feeding you downgraded trash.
Raddagirl on 09/10/2013:
I thought it might be me and somehow my tastebuds had changed, but my boyfriend took a bite and said "What's wrong with this? It's horrible." then I looked online and see that YES, the company is now feeding us acrid chemical. Never again will I buy Kraft. BOYCOTT KRAFT!!
Leslie @ TheRock on 09/14/2013:
We thought we were the only one !!! It's just myself and husband - boys are gone, so a quick box of Kraft mac and cheese was quick and easy w/ a pork chop on the grill. NOPE !!! Try Annie's when time is tight.
Jaime on 09/18/2013:
We just noticed in the last month or so... It appears as though they have completely removed the cheesy flavour from the sauce mix. It is now devoid of any taste whatsoever!
Tiffany on 09/21/2013:
Oh my goodness! I am a chef and yet I have always enjoyed the Kraft Mac and Cheese every once in a while (I know, I know...shame on me! But it's the only fast and pre-packaged thing I ever enjoy). I always add my own pasta, fusilli or rigatoni, and just use the cheese packet to make a sauce on the stovetop. I was HORRIFIED tonight when I tasted my dinner. It tastes nothing like the old Mac and Cheese. I even have a HUGE and disgusting mayonaisse aftertaste, and I HATE mayo more than anything. What on earth have they put in this??? EWWWWW! So nasty! I just about gagged. I will never be buying or making this product again. Very disappointed.....and quite hungry, now that my dinner is indelible!
Eddie on 11/11/2013:
I used to love eating Kraft Mac and Cheese, but now its light colour and I got to say it, its disgusting taste I cannot even get through few bites before I toss it in the garbage....It smells rancid, not cheesy at all like it used to be but chemically....but like its rotten or something....I used to think I was getting rotten cheeses but then thought I can't be getting so many......I agree that change is needed sometimes to make us healthy but don't put original on package that is misleading and if you want healthy, if that is the argument, let us make the choice if you make a second product that's healthier than the original....
Gary vosters on 01/06/2014:
Can't eat the box Mac and cheese anymore .something is wrong and cheapened. My daughter still likes the single cups though .
mike on 01/20/2014:
yep I noticed this a while back... kraft screwed this up like they did their ranch. I will go with another brand.
Rick on 03/19/2014:
I appreciate seeing everyone's comments. Huge disappointment to know I'm not making it wrong and that I'll never be able to enjoy kraft mac and cheese again.
Rosemare on 06/12/2014:
I found a similar problem with the Kraft Mac and Cheese not tasting as good as it used to! The taste is sweet . Not what Mac and Cheese should taste like! I am dissappointed because this used to be my go to Favorite when looking for something quick and satisfiying. Not purchasing again . I will buy a store brand the next time.
Giselle on 08/15/2014:
I noticed years ago that Kraft Macaroni and Cheese tasted terrible so I stopped buying it. I remember it from my childhood having a pleasant cheesy tang and, although I didn't eat it often, it was a nostalgic indulgence once in a while. My daughter likes macaroni and cheese so I searched for a brand that comes close to the original Kraft product. BJ's macaroni and cheese is the closest one I've found. The box claims it contains real Land O' Lakes cheese and it really is good!
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NORTHFIELD, ILLINOIS -- I think that the commercial that you have on TV. right now is disgusting. When parents scare their children with a story like they tell them, that is not good. It is almost like saying child abuse is alright. Please try to correct this or take it off of TV. Signed::S. Davis
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Anonymous on 03/19/2011:
Commercials are great when you have to go pee. If you have seen a commercial or ad that you would like to complain about, submit your complaint online to the ASA.
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Anonymous on 03/19/2011:
You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.
leet60 on 03/19/2011:
Commercials are not meant to reflect reality in most instances. They are meant to attract attention and entertain enough to keep the viewer watching.

It is really not the responsibility of an advertiser to teach children the difference in reality and fiction; and if a parent feels the content is inappropriate it is their responsibility to monitor and control the viewing.
Anonymous on 03/20/2011:
I don't think I recall this commercial which means it really didn't affect me at all if I did see it. Some people take things way too seriously. On another note, I DID try the Sugar free Jello Cheesecake pudding and I didn't like it. It tasted nothing like cheesecake.
S.Holmes on 08/04/2011:
I am so very disappointed that a company such as Kraft is using border line violence to scare kids from some adult product! Violence against children is already rampant in the US, and this promotes verbal abuse and is basically something that disgust me so very much, I will not purchase another Kraft product until you cease this ad. I assume all adults work at Kraft and this rolls off their shoulders, but this is not in the least bit humorous to adults that had food withheld from them when you were a child! This is a disgrace to your Company and insults your dedicated customers. I think we all should boycott this piece of advertising! It is blatently terrible enough for me and all my contacts to stop buying your products.
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Bubbly New Year Celebration
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My family and I rang in the new year with nachos, guacamole, and queso, made with Velveeta and Ro-Tel. As I was prepared to wash the queso from the crock pot, I added water and stepped away for a moment. When I came back, there were suds in the crock pot. I had not yet added any soap!! I tried it again. More suds! We even tried adding water to one of our serving bowls, and more suds again! Ick!! What is in this product that causes it to generate suds yet makes it safe enough for us to eat? We will NEVER buy Velveeta again!
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Venice09 on 01/01/2011:
I don't know exactly what causes that to happen, but it's not soap suds. They're more like air bubbles, and it happens with a lot of things. I don't think it's harmful.
Inat on 01/01/2011:
velveeta "cheese" has a lot of fats and other stuff to give it its consistency. If you add bubbly aerated water to it, the fats and other chems act like soap does and creates a film in which air can be trapped causing bubbles!
momsey on 01/01/2011:
I see "soap bubbles" when adding water to dirty pots and pans fairly often.

Besides, is this the first thing that made you wonder what's in Velveeta? It's supposed to be like cheese, but it's not refrigerated.
trmn8r on 01/01/2011:
When I think of Velveeta, I also think "ick". But it has nothing to do with air bubbles (note suds implies soap or detergent).

Kraft recommends that it be refrigerated. Perhaps to keep mice from getting into it?
Anonymous on 01/01/2011:
Velveeta is ick.
Anonymous on 01/01/2011:
I love velveeta. Its yummy with salsa.
Obsfucation on 01/01/2011:
Velveeta is the food of the gods
Venice09 on 01/01/2011:
I think Velveeta has its place. I used to use it to make macaroni and cheese for the kids. I liked it better than the powdered stuff. It's not something I would eat on a cracker but it does melt nicely.
trmn8r on 01/01/2011:
I just noticed the OP rang in the New Year with Velveeta and Ro-tel. Rotel is a high end audio manufacturer. I understand Ro-tel is different, but I was just imagining some audiophiles chowing down on Velveeta while grooving to Stravinsky.

Venice -> yep. We used it for grilled cheese sandwiches in the '70s as I recall.
Anonymous on 01/01/2011:
Velveeta is very expensive considering it's not real cheese. It's one of the few foods I have to avoid eating entirely because it causes me huge stomach problems. If it bubbles in water, what does it do in your stomach?
Nohandle on 01/01/2011:
Hold it folks!! We had an employee who would cook her ground beef at home, toss it into a slow cooker, add the Velveeta and Rotel and bring it to the office, plug it up and it looked like a bunch of field hands waiting to put some on a plate. I don't recall seeing any bubbles resembling soap suds.
MRM on 01/01/2011:
Really?!? Valveeta is not real cheese?
Ytropious on 01/01/2011:
A lot of things in my sink have that reaction. It's not soap so I'm not sure why you're upset. It's just chemistry at work.

I love velveeta and ground meat. My mom would always make "meat snacks" for new years with a good ratio of beef to velveeta, just enough for everything to be sticking together. Then she puts it on these little brown bread squares (not melba toast but similar) and bakes it in the oven. SO GOOD.
Anonymous on 01/01/2011:
MRM - velveeta is a processed pasteurized cheese spread product.
Skye on 01/01/2011:
It is the sodium phosphate which Velveeta contains, that was causing the bubbles. I know all those bubbles were disturbing, but safe. After all, you ate the Velveeta where the sodium phosphate is first found.

It's like when you boil pasta, and then put the pot into the sink for washing, and fill it with water. It bubbles up, due to the starch from the pasta, that had been cooked in the pot.
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Who cut the cheese?
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Although macaroni & cheese is not in the same class as the other culinary delights usually posted and discussed on M3C, it has been a staple in our household for many years. Lately, it seems to me that the quality of the cheese has diminished. Is it just me, or does anyone else feel as though they have changed? Perhaps its the type of cheese they use. Maybe they switched vendors or suppliers, but it just doesn't seem to have the thick flavory quality it used to. Anymore, I'm forced to add an extra packet of cheese, just so the noodles aren't so bland. A favorite of ours is to melt the jalepeno Velveeta Cheese and use that instead. I use the macaroni and cheese as a base for several variations of meals like tuna casserole, hamburger helpers, etc...Sad to say, I've found that the "house" brands tend to have a richer flavor and darker yellow tint, instead of the pale and bland Kraft. What went wrong with one of my favorite childhood snacks?
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Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Perhaps they did change it. I'm sorry I can't really contribute anything here, because I don't use the stuff. But, if you would like a very simple recipe for making your own cheese sauce, drop me a line!
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Thanks Dryad. Always willing to try something new. It's not very often that I make things from scratch.
bargod on 08/03/2010:
Hey don't knock my KD man, I live on that stuff for years and still eat it sometimes. I mean what else are you going to feed a tapeworm as big as mine.
Starlord on 08/03/2010:
I was raised on Kraft mac & cheese, and I thought my tastes were changing with age. I am glad to see that it is not just me. Dryad, watch your message center. So far, the store brands we have tried have failed to impress me. One was even a light brown. Ugh!
goduke on 08/03/2010:
On days when my dad travelled, my mom would make a dish with Kraft Mac & Cheese, cream of mushroom soup and chopped chicken breast (cooked of course), all mixed together. Even now, when I've had a bad day, I crave it.
goduke on 08/03/2010:
I saw an ad for the new homestyle in the paper this Sunday....looked a bit interesting.
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
I swear my youngest sister lived on this in college: 1 box mac-n-cheese, prepared, 1 can cream of mushroom soup, 1 can of tuna, some peas. Then, she would mix it all together. It was actually kind of good.

BEJ on 08/03/2010:
Dryad: that brings back memories. My husband fixed that for me when we were dating. That and grilling out were the only things he could cook at that time.
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
I like the Velveeta mac 'n cheese, much better than the boxed crap...what exactly is powdered cheese mix anyway??
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Never tried adding the cream of mushroom, but I definitely eat it with the tuna and peas.
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Starlord> Glad to see someone else notice. So I'm not going crazy, am I?
Mrs. V on 08/03/2010:
We use the Velveeta Shells and Cheese. No milk needed. It's thick, creamy and tasts very good without having to add anything exta (though we sometimes do for a different taste ^_~).
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Mrs.V +100 I forgot about those. We too buy those and they are very thick and creamy. That's the way that I remember the Kraft macaroni being back in the day. Something definitely changed:(
goduke on 08/03/2010:
And there's one with bacon.
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
'Scuse me Justice, but I believe I mentioned Velveeta before Mrs V did...just cuz she has two stars and I only have one, doesn't make it OK to diss me like that!

Mrs. V on 08/03/2010:
just cause, I'm sorry, you are right, you did mention it first (didn't see it) :(

You can have one of my stars if you want, I wouldn't mind ^_^
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Aww thanks Mrs V, but those stars look good on you. ;)
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
My eyes were still blinded with fury...forgive me my fellow members and friends of the M3C community. Can I be forgiven?
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
I'm looking for some new variations. Any ideas besides the cream of mushroom?
Obsfucation on 08/03/2010:
I have two gourmet tips for Kraft M&C: if you are doing the box kind, after you drain your macaroni, don't put it back in the pan (yet). Instead, add your milk, butter and the packet, over low heeat, and sttir until it is a creamy sauce. THEN add the macaroni back. HUGE difference.
]For the Velveeta and shells, throw the foil packet of sauce in with the boiling noodles for the last 4 or 5 minutes. It will mix much easily, and be creamier.

A few years back, Kraft packaged the cheese powder separately in a shaker container, for sprinkling on popcorn. Does anyone know if it is still available anywhere? It was awesome.
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Hmmm. I will try that.
Anonymous on 08/03/2010:
Obsfucation, you can buy all types of popcorn seasonings that are pretty good. I have some from Kernel Season's in my pantry right now - white cheddar, butter, and caramel. I think I got them at Kroger.

goduke on 08/03/2010:
cream of chicken also works well, J4A. Pretty much any of the "cream of" soups work -- just depends on which flavor you want.
Mrs. V on 08/03/2010:
I like to add ham pieces (my nephew likes sliced hotdogs in his) to my mac and cheese along with just a bit of salt/pepper/thyme/sometimes paprika. Also 1 or 2 slices of munster cheese ^_^
Starlord on 08/04/2010:
We put Orville Redenbacher oil and topping on our popcorn with Jane's Mixed Up Crazy Salt. Deeeelish!
Baconandtomatoes on 09/04/2010:
Your observations are correct from what I have witnessed. Kraft HAS changed the recipe. I first noticed the change about 5 years ago.

At the time, my grocery would carry Kraft Macaroni and Cheese, however, some boxes listed 600mg of sodium and others listed only 580mg of sodium in the nutritional facts, despite no change in portion size. Bear in mind that this is a minimal change in sodium itself, but clearly reflects a greater change in their overall recipe. Long story short, the 600mg boxes tasted delicious, like the ones I had growing up, and the 580mg boxes were bland, less cheesy, and less characteristically "orange" upon preparation. Sadly the 600mg have since been completely phased out, and the 580mg are all that I can find on the market today.
(These observations refer only to the marked "original" recipe boxes, and explicitly not to the "shapes" or other forms of Kraft macaroni)
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