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Postum, no longer available
Posted by Peddalpower on 11/19/2007
I have been drinking a quality product provided by Kraft Foods Company. It is called Postum, but it has become unavailable recently. No explanation has been available to any of the retailers who carried this product. I would like to know why it has been discontinued, and if it is ever going to be available again. I also enjoy herb teas as a morning beverage, but Postum is a more substantial beverage, with a coffee like flavor. I am very disappointed to not be able to continue purchasing it anywhere.

I can't find an address to Kraft to write directly to them. I am hoping that this note might find someone who will know how to contact them and get a reason for the cancellation of an excellent product.

     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2007-11-19:
Wasn't Postum originally made to be a fake coffee during World War II, when coffee beans were unavailable? I would imagine there isn't enough of a market left to support a product like this.
Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-11-19:
You are right Ken - I Googled it and Postum was invented as a coffee substitute. The places that sell it seem to be out of stock, so it might be a goner. However, I did find a do-it-yourself recipe for homemade Postum...

http://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,1630,149185-250198,00.html

Posted by spiderman2 on 2007-11-19:
http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/about/siteMap.htm here is a page with lots of information. Maybe you can find the status there.
Posted by Starlord on 2007-11-19:
Postum was invented as a coffee substitute, and is older than I am (61). I would be willing to bet that sales figures, if they can be obtained for Postum, will show a serious decline in demand for the product. I undesratnd is was quite tasty, but if people don't buy it, the company won't make it. I will contact Food Network, as there is a company that has been on Unwrapped a couple of times. If you are looking for a product that has been discontinued, this place probably has it in stock. I will get back to you on it.
Posted by LeeSee on 2007-11-19:
I found this site. They say they have it. $8.60 a jar

http://www.farawayfoods.com/postum.html
Posted by Mamallama on 2007-12-14:
I have been drinking Postum since I was a little girl, and I STILL love it... I havent' been able to buy it for the last month and it's driving me crazy! And for the record I have never used it as a coffee replacement, though I have a friend who does and both of us have been to every grocery store in our area over the past week, looking for it . I really want them to bring this product back! Believe it or not there are many who want it. This can't be the end for this product!
Posted by d_powell on 2007-12-28:
Postum was created in 1894 by C. W. Post as a healthy alternitve to coffee and has been adding in the healther living of millions sence. Kraft consumed Post and now has decided to discontinue this healthy product for a more lucritive unhealthy products.

Feel free to e_mail the CEO of Kraft @ Irene.Rosenfeld@kraft.com and make your comments directly to her, She used to be Marketing Director, Beverages for Kraft. So Please write her and voice your concerns.
Posted by RJinPECO on 2007-12-31:
My mother drank Postum all the time but we lately we've been having a hard time finding it in the stores. Finally did a search online and found out at wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postum that it had been discontinued. There is a number listed at that article and I called to ask them to bring it back. The number is 1-800-431-7678. I am now going to email Ms. Rosenfeld at the email address listed in one of the above postings about Postum. Thanks for the email to whoever posted it. Happy New Year all.
p.s. I just went to http://www.farawayfoods.com/postum.html but when I searched for Postum there were no listings for it. They must have sold all of their stock since their website was listed above.
Posted by SC Pickle on 2008-01-05:
I have been drinking Postum since the late 1960's as a morning beverage. Lately I have had a terrible time finding it in the grocery stores. I decided to "google" it and am glad to find out there are others who are missing it also. Thanks for the email address to write to the company. I just can't tolerate caffine in coffee very well and hope this is just a short-term absence of Postum on the market.
Posted by missingpostum on 2008-01-07:
I am very upset that Postum is being discontinued! Post a comment on kraft.liveworld.com in the community section letting them know your opinion on the subject.
Posted by AmyH1111 on 2008-01-08:
My boyfriends mom is a huge fan of Postum and went so far as to contact the Post family that started the business - they have discontinued it with no plan to bring it back. We ended up giving her 11 jars that we were able to get before they sold out as a Christmas gift.
Posted by bookwrm2 on 2008-01-10:
I think I have found a source for Postum in Canada. I just placed an order from the CanadaOnly.ca website. They said they ship to the U.S., so we'll see what happens.
Posted by Nick Name on 2008-01-20:
Postum was invented in 1895. Long before WWII and any coffee shortages and overbearing taxes that we still have to pay. It tasted good. Kraft never advertised it and since people are so controlled by advertising the demand dropped off. They could have done better. Big Corps don't give a damn! That's all.
Posted by helpdeskdan on 2008-01-22:
This is not the end! There are OTHER COFFEE SUBSTITUTES! I just tried Pero and found it to be remarkably similar to coffee flavored Postum; maybe even a bit better, in fact. Goggle "coffee substitutes."
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-01-22:
coffee substitutes are kinda like turkey sausage...just don't cut it
Posted by piyene on 2008-01-29:
There is literally not a time I can remember when I didn't drink Postum and I'm 52. My mother and my grandmother were both Postum lovers, as well as their offspring. All 3 of my teenage and early twenties daughters make a cup many times a week. It is heartbreaking to our entire family to no longer have Postum available. And no, we are not Mormons, we’re Presbyterians. Postum knows no religious boundaries.

I have never, ever seen advertising for Postum, and it seems like little effort has ever been made to market this beverage - and yet - it still has an extremely loyal, geographically diverse, demographically diverse, in fact almost fanatical following that is devastated by your decision to remove the product - and all this following with little (no?) money spent on a marketing campaign! Even if you only sold it online and increased the price, I know you'd still have a large buying public - my family included. My strong preference would be to be able to buy it again in the grocery - like we have for 100+ years. Or even shop it around and see if you can sell Postum to someone else to distribute. Anything but making it never again available! Even if you posted the recipe online and let us make it ourselves. We’re all that desperate! You truly don’t understand how distraught those of us who love Postum are, or how frustratingly helpless we are in the face of corporations, so all we can do is write and call and beg.

Have you googled Postum and read the blogs??
http://jeffwerner.ca/2004/12/postum_coffee_s.html The first half is all testimonials from when it was readily available –before any decisions to discontinue to it were made so it’s all just people who love Postum – no axe to grind. Scan to late 2007 and start reading and see how distraught, and how quickly the blog entries increased, once people started figuring out it was gone.
http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=404

I drank 4 to 5 cups EVERY day - it is the most comforting drink imaginable and I am heartsick at your decision. Please, please, please - reconsider and bring Postum back. It's a beloved American icon, as well as a cherished, multi-generational daily ritual. Please - I beg you.

Here's information that took a wee bit of time to gather, but it's all we can do; perhaps it will be sufficient:

Here are the email addresses for the CEO (Irene Rosenfeld) and Kim McMiller
Associate Director, Consumer Relations:

Irene.Rosenfeld@kraft.com; OnlineTeam2@Casupport.com;

Here's their official email contact form:
http://www.kraft.com/contacts/other-contacts-form.htm?ft=other&subj=Product+Information

and here's their message board: http://kraft.liveworld.com//post!reply.jspa?threadID=1700001478&messageID=1700014357

Here are their phone numbers

1-800-431-7678 customer support
1-847-646-2000 head office

I wish us all luck.
Posted by piyene on 2008-01-29:
Here's information that took a wee bit of time to gather, but it's all we can do; perhaps it will be sufficient:

Here are the email addresses for the CEO (Irene Rosenfeld) and Kim McMiller
Associate Director, Consumer Relations:

Irene.Rosenfeld@kraft.com; OnlineTeam2@Casupport.com;

Here's their official email contact form:
http://www.kraft.com/contacts/other-contacts-form.htm?ft=other&subj=Product+Information

and here's their message board: http://kraft.liveworld.com//post!reply.jspa?threadID=1700001478&messageID=1700014357

Here are their phone numbers

1-800-431-7678 customer support
1-847-646-2000 head office

I wish us all luck.
Posted by valhalla3 on 2008-02-03:
It is reported that Kraft Foods has discontinued Postum. I just wrote to them threatening to do what ever I can to expose their disregard for their customers and the health of their customers. I think the more people that write and complain the more chance of getting them to not discontinue it.

The following is the address to contact them online:

The gereral site is:

http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf

Here you can use the "contact" link, click on any FAQ question and then click on "still have a question"


or the following is the address to get to their contact form (if it works)

http://kraftfoods.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/kraftfoods.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=eYrWCpXi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=49&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD03OTMmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x

Thanks!

Valhalla
Posted by ohb0b on 2008-02-07:
Thanks for the links. I have written to Ms. Rosenfield expressing my disappointment. In these days of health consciousness, I can't believe Kraft would pull the plug on a product like Postum.
Because of high blood pressure, I limit my caffeine intake to one cup a day to jump-start my nervous system. Postum is my beverage of choice, it is the only beverage with the "body" of coffee. I drink at least two cups daily.
I hope this turns into the next "New Coke" marketing fiasco for them!
During my online research, I found many people drink Postum for health reasons; Cancer patients, migraine sufferers, people with gastro-intestinal problems, high blood pressure, etc. Additionally, many members of the LDS church drink Postum because their religion forbids caffeine. I was allowed to drink it as a child when the adults were having coffee.
So, there is a sizable niche market there, and with a little promotion, a naturally caffeine free product with a coffee-like taste, could be turned into a money maker.
If there is not a big enough profit for Kraft, they could sell the brand. It would make a nice "cash cow" for a smaller manufacturer. This may be the ideal solution.

Posted by ohb0b on 2008-02-07:
"This is not the end! There are OTHER COFFEE SUBSTITUTES! I just tried Pero and found it to be remarkably similar to coffee flavored Postum; maybe even a bit better, in fact. Goggle "coffee substitutes."

My grocer GAVE me a jar of Pero to try... yucch! I returned it after one serving! There is no substitute for Postum.
Posted by ohb0b on 2008-02-08:
I was intrigued by a post on another board asking about making Postum at home. Maybe we can come up with the recipe.

Here's what we know so far:

There are four ingredients: wheat bran, wheat, molasses, and maltodextrin.

Wheat bran and wheat (cracked wheat)are available in health food stores.

Molasses is available in the grocery store.

Maltodextrin is just a commercial starch. It is sold under the trade name Maltrin. While it is available in small quantities over the web, and probably sold in GNC and other stores that cater to the body-building crowd, I'm sure there are substitutions, corn starch may be a good place to start.

Ingredients are listed on the package in order of percentage.

The wheat and bran are probably run through a grinder, a coffee grinder or a blender should do the trick, then mixed with the molasses and starch, and roasted. Since this will tirn into a powder after the liquid from the molasses evaporates, I suggest a slow roast, on a cookie sheet, stirring often.
After roasting, they may have to be put back into the grinder to break up the chunks.

So, all we need to do is figure out the right percentages of ingredients, and roasting times and temperature.

I'll post my progress here, others are also welcome to post. We should call this some other name, so as not to get in trouble legally. Kraft still owns the trademark on Postum, so we need a new name. I'm also open to suggestions. Meanwhile, I'll refer to it as the coffee substitute.
Posted by dolfingrl360 on 2008-03-01:
I googled it and apparently it was discontinued last winter and it had been around for 112 years! people are selling tons of jars on ebay and there is a couple available on amazon but they also have a ton of other replacement brands that are pretty much the same thing. my grandma has been drinking it for years so I'm on the hunt for it too just like everyone else seems to be lol
Posted by JanetS on 2008-03-05:
If thousands of people would write "snail/surface mail" letters to Kraft Foods CEO:

Ms. Irene Rosenfeld
Chief Executive Officer
Kraft Foods, Inc.
3 Lakes Drive
Northfield, IL 60093

it might help. Physical letters and faxes carry more weight than e-mails, which are easily deleted, and don't take up space in their mail room, etc I have written to Ms. Rosenfeld. Kraft should have advertised Postum. Unless people find out about it accidentally, or by word of mouth, no one knows about it. If someone could locate Irene rosenfeld's FAX NUMBER, that would be terrific, her fax could be clogged with thousands of letters from unhappy Postum fans!!!! :)
Posted by jcmansu on 2008-03-15:
here is the link i found with her fax number made public\http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=616556&symbol=KFT

CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS*
Three Lakes Drive
Northfield, Illinois 60093

United States

Phone: 847-646-2000
Fax: 847-646-6005
Posted by Gina_RN on 2008-03-16:
I tried to see if I could order Postum somewhere on the Internet. Well, yeah...at $30 a jar! Yikes! So I sent a fax to Ms Rosenfeld today. Please join the cause!
Posted by heleb on 2008-05-30:
I am very, very sad at the discontinuing of Postum. My whole family has loved it for 60+ years. My grandmother used to drink it every day. We are from Ecuador, and even there is now impossible to find Postum anymore. I hope that Kraft changes its decision and brings it back soon!
Posted by jan9829 on 2008-08-29:
Thanks, everyone, for info on how to contact Kraft. Maybe if enough people respond they’ll reconsider bringing Postum back and actually advertising it! I’m almost 50 and have been enjoying this unique beverage since college—great with a little creamer! Keep the postings and info coming!
Posted by dlh on 2009-03-22:
Am I correct in suspecting most posters on this topic are either Adventist or Mormon?

While becoming more and more scarce (and pricey) Postum is still available on eBay.
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Postum vs. The money Grubbers
Posted by D_powell on 12/28/2007
Postum lost after one hundred and thirteen years, Kraft in its infant (infinite) wisdom has discontinued Postum. It was not filling their pockets full enough or fast enough. They would rather sell junk sugar filled foods with a high profit margin rather than keep with the founders, of both Post and Kraft, ideals for heather foods for the masses.

I think we need to show Kraft aka Post we won't stand for it and boycott all of their food entities.

Check the web and find any and all Kraft owned business and boycott them, also boycott their food products.

I know this will be asking a lot for some, as Kraft does make some superior products. But if we want healthy products on the store shelves than sacrifices must be made.

There is still Pero is still made because it is made in a health conscious country (Switzerland) not a money hungry one.

Shame on Kraft

     
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Posted by Principissa on 2007-12-28:
I'll still buy Kraft foods.
Posted by GothicSmurf on 2007-12-28:
Postum was a powdered coffee substitute sold by the Kraft Foods company. It was a kind of roasted grain beverage. The caffeine-free beverage mix was originally created by company founder C. W. Post in 1895 and marketed as a healthy alternative to coffee.--- (From Wiki)

With words like powdered, substitute, beverage mix, marketed as healthy and the like, I can see how this is good for you.
Posted by Ponie on 2007-12-28:
I drank Postum twice--both at the same time--first and last. Yuck!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-28:
I haven't seen any updated stories on this product, but if I do, I'll postum.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2007-12-28:
LOL Sheriff!
Posted by Slimjim on 2007-12-28:
LOL sheriff, something similar.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-28:
I know how ya feel powell. I felt the same way when NBC canceled ALF.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-28:
OK, sheriff, just spit out my coffee with that one. That was funny!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-28:
I don't think there were any special health benefits to Postum. Its heyday was when coffee became scarece during WW II. It's amazing it lasted as long as it did.
Posted by heaven17 on 2007-12-28:
I didn't even know the stuff was still on the market.
Which is probably the reasoning behind this decision.
Kraft is a business designed to make money.
Why produce what you can't sell?
Posted by spiderman2 on 2007-12-28:
I saw this on the shelf at Wegman's yesterday. I have never seen it at any other store. Kraft would keep making it if enouh people were buying it!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-28:
for something that's ALOT older than I am, it's funny that I've never seen or heard of it.
Posted by bobc123 on 2007-12-28:
Talked with Kraft Foods,Inc. (aka Post) today. You can call them to at 1-800-431-7678. They confirmed, apologetically, that Postum was being discontinued due to lack of customer demand. Some say it has been only recently off store shelves. The Kraft customer rep indicated that the company would be open to more consumer
feedback. If you can call them they will take your comments.

Robert Campbell, Long Beach, California
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Information On How Kraft Really Works When Not In The Consumers Eyes
Posted by Bill 214 on 10/28/2007
WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA -- Kraft foods I have worked at the winchester va facility going on 16 years. Now all though we have changed are name a few times we have been Kraft foods for over a decade now and boy has it changed. Where there once was superior quality in are products there is now no quality. We have been cutting budgets on the floor dealing with blue collars the most. We cut everything we can to create more jobs for white collars who do nothing in this facility. We have in the last few years cut our cip steps which is cleaning in progress which cleans the machines so you do not get mold and other forms or spoilage in the product.

We now work more less 6 days a week do to having to change from a 7 day schedule because are employees are suing us for violating labor laws which I will get to in a minute, but are cleaning really don't really exist anymore only on shutting down after working 6 days in a row to do cip and boy you wouldn't believe the mold that builds up on these machines in six days, compared to when we use to clean a machine cip about every other day. This creates run time though which makes money the only thing Kraft cares about anymore. We use to have a operator of the capri sun machine watch the machine watching for all types of spoilage issues which you wouldn't believe you can have in just a few minutes if you are not watching to catch these issue's. Kraft has cut many jobs which help to achieve quality causing operators to have to deal with dumping their own slop and trash while machines run with no one watching quality which if a machine is running bad this operator could be away from the machine several times thru the night. Leaving this machine running spoilage issues right out to the public this does not get noticed on the books though because we make so much of this product so easy the numbers of complaints don't hurt because there is more volume that no one complains about.

We also do not worry about other issues anymore with quality we use to address wrinkle issues and other form of bad seals that can cause spoilage by getting are technicians to fix these fast before it came to a problem now a operator has to run no matter what as before we had the right to shut down till fix bad seals which means maybe weak or cracked letting air thru the seal can cause spoilage also which now if a tech can't fix which mostly happens every day on at least several machines as we run 23 the operator has to keep running this out the door and quality is nothing as this operator may only catch a few of these defects as he may be doing someone's else job that they done away with as dumping the trash which us to be contracted thru kelly or manpower which also goes into another job going away such as utilities on the back of the machines which use to also help quality by checking supplies that was being loaded into the machine now being replaced by kelly employees who are Spanish and have no clue about anything dealing with quality as most every Kraft employee can't speak Spanish which also causes many safety concerns as with are moving equipment we can't tell them what to do or not or let them know there is stuff going on they need to watch for.We have also been cutting down on are cost for materials as to making these products as cheap by making thiner such as pouch foil which they have this way to thin now causing light fills wrinkles all types of seal defects and damage to the pouch as it is being packaged I have never seen any place work with such careless efforts towards quality and all the jobs they have done away with has generated cheaper more jobs for the white collars who do nothing also giving them higher bonus and now word of 5 extra days off every 5 years as before all got treated the same as blue collars get treated as scum anymore working like slaves and every benefit a blue collar had is getting taken away as insurance and all the rules that the company had to protect these employees by making a handbook every year gets changed to benefit Kraft because virginia has a right to work law and if a employee stands up for herself she can get fired which leaves to the lawsuit that the employees are trying to get thru where winchester violated the blue collar civil rights by before the employees had to work seven days a week rotating shifts a employee would work seven days starting on Saturday day shift of 2 on Saturday and Sunday after working 2nd shift work Monday thru Friday off 5 days till Wednesday working Thursday thru next thursady another 7 days in a row every time we worked seven days in a row they made fall between two different weeks so it wouldn't look like we was working these in a row so they would not pay us time in a half for this time which was a federal law that they had to pay us when working over 40 hours in a seven day period this also hurt us even worse as with these hours between weeks even tho we worked well over 40 hours we barely even got a 30 hour pay check because on the books it looked as we hardly worked now since Kraft has got when that we know they changed this to a five day schedule as knowing we could never make the numbers as we did working seven days in a row we now have to work manatory overtime every day even if u volanteer to work for a emloyee during this time they will deduct time from the person who was on manatory overtime also because they can't use her even more trying to use the employees time up so they get less days off also since we make less now we work 6 days most of the year even though the employee is on a five day schedule the six day is also manatory overtime giving even less of a family life to these employees while a white collar barely even putts 40 hours in a week in as to Kraft advertising they care about people they don't care at all about blue collars and they will do anything they can to get these people to burn their time up or cause them hardships when coming to geting time off for illness or hardships in the familyies
     
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Posted by BlueVelvetteer on 2007-11-01:
you forgot to mention all the good things the company does for us!! THE TURKEYS THE HAMS THE PARTIES THE BONUS! I guess im the only one with the nerve to even make a comment here!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-11-01:
My son likes their mac & cheese.
Posted by FED UP!! on 2007-11-01:
No your not the only one with enough nerve...I'm here! I totally agree with everything you posted!! I also agree with BlueVelvetteer-the things the give us are nice. But save the dramma for your mama's and get realistic!! The parties are for the "front office" folk now. We are looked down upon for trying to have a good time,the bonus is great but not guaranteed...so don't even think of it! I am glad bill214 that you took the initiative to do this!! Maybe other employees will wake up and realize we have to stick together or it will all fall apart!!
Posted by Get a Grip on 2007-11-01:
If you're so unhappy do all of your co-workers a favor and QUIT!!! Take a McJob while you go back to school.
Posted by team winchester on 2007-11-02:
I have a few comments about Kraft-Winchester for both Bill 214 and FED UP!!!.
#1 If you have a problem with this facility you have a few choices. The first of which is to go to the appropriate person in management and discuss your issue. The second choice would be to terminate YOUR OWN employment.
#2 Bob Jones! This man has had an extemely rough past year! How dare either of you make such rude comments about the man! I think that you are the most incompassionate person that I have ever worked with! And if you have been here that long we all have worked with each other at one time or another. There are always going to be people that you dont like that you work with, no matter where you go. To name names....thats really low!
#3 This facility has always changed and will forever change, some call it progress. With the economy the way it is...we are not the only facility or company changing. Be thankful that you have your job. We have always changed, got stressed, faced the change and went on about business and we always end up on the top. Remem
I may not always like my job or some of the people I have to work with but I will not disrespect my co-workers. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Jones and what decisions he makes. He has to follow corporate rules too.
Have a Wonderful day TEAM WINCHESTER!
(Hopefully this one will spread through the facility as fast as the negative one did!)
Posted by radioactivebeacon on 2007-11-02:
What good would it really do to complain to management? All we are in their eyes are numbers anyway. All The top people care about is one thing,Getting that product out they don't care how many jobs are getting redefined,or how many people are getting reduced, or how many hours we work,because in the end management doesn't lose pay or time with their families. So really what good would complaining do? To be worked like a dog complain and then be criticized about complaining? Yes that really shows off Team Winchester.
Posted by rabbit325 on 2007-11-02:
All of this crying on the internet isn't going to solve anything. Why not bring all of your problems up to the front office, or talk about it during success sharing meetings. We have one of those once a month and we are asked for any bi+c#s, moans, or gripes. All you are doing is hanging our dirty laundry out before the world. None of these internet people are going to solve your issues. If you are too cowardly to bring these issues up at work, where they can be resolved, then just leave! Nothings keeping you here except a check, and OUR (note the spelling) TEAM doesn't need that kind of person on it. So stop this Bloging and stand up for your selves on the job like men, or shut up and leave. Written by Dan And Scott in the pouchroom. Note: We are not afraid of saying what we think but since we do not know who you are we had to do it this way!
Posted by Team Winchester 1 on 2007-11-02:
I have been at Kraft for six years, don't tell me you can't shut down a machine that you are having issues with. That is your responsibility as an operator. As far as cutting cost, it is a companys duty to it's shareholders and employees to make a profit, show me a company that does not cut to increase profit, no profit means no jobs. Winchester has made cuts but every effort has been made to effect as few people as possible. As for working like dogs, get real it's not a daycare it's a job. It is your duty to do the best you can. As for HR there door is always open to anyone I have never had a problem with getting answers or help with a situation of any kind. You can talk to anyone from plant manager to buisness unit manager to HR coordinator and facilitators in confidentiality. One more thing if you are that unhappy Quit get out. What kind of person would stay where they do not like where they work. Or would make accusations without using their real name.(cowardly) Kenny A-Crew KAB
Posted by caprisunman63 on 2007-11-02:
I cannot believe all the whining and complaining I've been with Kraft many years sure there has been change some good some bad but you must adapt and change with the circumstances you are confronted with take a negative and turn it into a positive I would like to address to accusations of the non compliance to the strict sanitation policies that KFNA implements it sets forth such stringent CIP guidelines which is reflected in every audit and inspection that is done by KFNA We at Kraft have a marvelous record in all categories which would explain our high ratings which reflects our very generous success sharing payout With the state our economy is in at present we should all be grateful to be working for a major player in the food industry which i believe at this moment is ranked number one globally In closing i would like to say that over the years KFNA has provided myself and my family a comfortable standard of living i have some years to go but plan to retire when the time comes Thank You Kraft Foods
Posted by sirmixedupalot on 2007-11-03:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.'ABE LINCOLN' HARD WORK spotlights the character of people,some turn up their sleeves,some turn up there noses and some don't turn up at all.bill214,THIS IS NOT THE VENUE TO DISCUSS MANUFACTURING PROCESSES.SHAME ON YOU.WE MAKE DRINKS THAT KIDS LOVE.miles r. warehouse 2nd shift.
Posted by bill214p on 2008-03-30:
I think I need to respond to all of the negative remarks that came from the individuals who posted the comments regarding Kraft Winchester. First of all the employees at the factory have no clue as to how things need to be run and how they are being run. For years the employees were being cheated out of their overtime until "someone mysteriously wrote a letter to the company pointing this out" and now all of a sudden we were put on five day working shifts and it was made to look as if someone in human resources done this one their own to better the company----which is total bull this was done to cover their ass. As to the comment that someone needs to stop whining on the internet and go to the people in charge. Come on people give me a break you know as well as anyone that if you work at Kraft Winchester there is no close door privacy and there is no confidentiality. Obviously, if they are up against having a million dollar lawsuit filed due to their violation of the fair standard labor act going to the front office would never help as they would want to get the employee out of the factory as soon as possible so they would not have to deal with the situation or pay the money which is owed. Everyone knows what goes on with everyone else in the factory. If anyone at the factory goes to the so call "people in charge" there will not be anything done and they would do whatever they could to get you fired. This is someones personal opinion and if some people don't like it then they don't have to read it. This company is based on who you know and not what you know. Certain people CAN go into HR and make a complaint and something is done but other people who just want to work and are not in the "click" have no chance. If everything is so great then why is moral so low in the factory and if you think that everything is great then obviously you are one of the people in the so called "click" and have no common sense as to how a business should be ran or how people should be treated. Just reading these comments it does come across somewhat rude but these are the straight facts and it sounds as if someone has put alot of time into this factory and they keep hoping that things will turn around for the better and hopefully someone in charge will read these comments and have the balls to make the necessary changes and help the employees to get the money and respect that they so deserve.
Posted by bill214p on 2008-03-30:
I think that times are hard and that people should stand up for themselves .Writing these things on the internet about that facility really might not get things resolved that is a thing I'm sure everyone must know ,but it really comes down to these simple facts it really seem to sound like they exist .Often sounding in the negative as most factories do now a days I'm sure that Kraft foods do try to work with people when they are confronted as this surely is their job. But as the people at Kraft really need to realize is that what the employee had stated seems to be a real concern that the people really need to know .If they were breaking a law as bad as a federal law such as the Fair Labor Standards Act A company as big as Kraft Foods will be in denial all the way to the end with this being such a big deal as it sounds it will take "People Knowing " to get those employees that have been neglected their Overtime Wages that has so long not been reported. It is great to hear employees taking up for this company.This will happen ,but as I have read these reviews and it sounds to me as this employee has and does respect this company .But you have to look at other sides also those employees who have been taken advantage of their Civil Rights deserve their Loss Wages .It would be a great thing to get these employees what they should have had for years ,this would be very hard as Kraft would be a big company with lots of money .This is sad as it may sound is a world that seems to only survive with money and as Kraft has it it could take in many places even as you guess the Federal government as I know this of other stories .If these facts aren't being put out to the Public it will be hard to not get cases such as these swept under the rug .It is fine if those employees wanna take up and give the company back their wages "Those " meaning the ones that write commenting about the Big one posted ,but I'm am very sure lots of the other employees really would like their money and to feel that someone had stood up for Their Rights.as the posting said those employees shifts changed shortly after this was acknowledged as surely Kraft realized they was "Busted".I'm sure if the employee who had stood up for these employees went into the HR office and said this the employee would have been lied to in every means about what was going really going on. They would surely like too nip this in the bud fast .And with Virgina being a Right To Work State the employee could easily be fired for any reason and if they filed suit this could easily be slept under the rug .
Posted by ejryle on 2008-07-28:
I know what you say is true...As a consumer of Kraft products specifically caprisuns I am very displeased with the way such a huge company handled a problem I had with a box of capri suns. I bought a box of caprisuns about 3 months ago and my 6 year old daughter brought it to me to taste. It tasted terrible, like a strong chemical or something. I called Kraft and they sent someone to pick the product up There were only 3 left in the box and my 4 year old daughter had been throwing up for 3 days, she had been the only one to drink the others in the box. They finally sent me a letter today and said there was a foreign pink colored substance in the pouch and a fermented smell. It turned out to be mold, but offered no explanation as to where it may have come from or what type of mold it was. I will be contacting the fda tomorrow. I think they may be hoping I don't press the issue further. They sent me a bunch of coupons...like I really want to be buying their product with the way they seem to not be handling the issue. The letter was obviously a form letter and didn't even make much sense. I hope you do get improved working conditions and the respect you deserve, because you obviously are one of the few that actually cares about the producy you're manufacturing.
Posted by panda8 on 2009-02-09:
to bill214; IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY TEAM WINCHESTER IS THEN YOU NEED TO MOVE ON.WHY DO YOU STAY WITH KRAFT IF YOU ARE SO UNHAPPY THERE/GET A LIFE AND MOVE ON
Posted by panda8 on 2009-02-09:
TO SIRMIXEDUPALOT; YOU TELL THEM LIKE IT IS BABY IM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-09:
Posted By: bill 214 on 10/28/2007!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Julanne03 on 2009-06-30:
I actually have an ongoing issue with Kraft @ the moment. we purchased a box of kiwi strawberry capri suns and the damn thing was riddled with foregin debris looking like chicken or fish. Quite disgusting! YUCK
Posted by CapriSun_no_Sun_there on 2010-06-10:
Why doesn't someone call the news or the Food & Drug Administration? Krafts standards are terrible, if not nonexistant
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Postum Discontinued
Posted by JanetS on 03/04/2008
For those who are disappointed that Kraft Foods has discontinued the manufacture of POSTUM, you can write a letter to the CEO of Kraft Foods, Inc:

Ms. Irene Rosenfeld
Chief Executive Officer
Kraft Foods, Inc.
3 Lakes Drive
Northfield, IL 60093

If enough people write the company, they might re-think their decision to discontinue Postum!
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2008-03-05:
I think that all twelve of the people who still bought Postum have already posted their complaint here.
Posted by heaven17 on 2008-03-05:
Thanks for the laugh, Ken.
Posted by Ponie on 2008-03-06:
I tasted Postum twice at the same time--first and last! This was at the home of a potential client whose religion (or something or other) didn't allow coffee, tea, etc. I guess I gagged it down succesfully because she became a client but now I make her come to my home office for business. I always have hot chocolate available for her.
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Kraft Real Mayo ( Not Real Anymore)
Posted by Saltwateranglin on 05/17/2009
Remember when Coca Cola came out with New Coke. Looks like Kraft has just done the same with the great mayonnaise that many of us have used for our entire life.

It appears they changed out the lables a while back. I remember thinking it was odd that they went from a really decent looking label to a cheap, generic looking label they are using today. When the labels switched I though the mayo did too but it had not ( at least not yet ).

It seems to be that they got folks used to a new label and then started phasing it in to stores thinking we might not notice. Well I got my first jar of it the other day and noticed on the first taste. I thought it was spoiled. Another taste and I thought Miracle Whip. What I finally determined was this is a light version of Miracle Whip. I personally dislike Miracle Whip, hence my reason for buying mayonnaise. They are not the same thing.

Please write or call the company and get out real stuff back. There are too many things changing in the world as it is. Some things are just good the way they are and don't need changed.
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-17:
This is not good news for MissMarple.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-05-17:
Kraft has a fishy flavor to me. I prefer Hellman's..
Posted by Nohandle on 2009-05-17:
We heard this a while back on this website. Thanks for the reminder. I've been picking up a brand called Hellman's or Sauer's. I've not had a problem with either brand but they might not be available in your area. I don't know yet why Kraft decided to change their mayo. I had bought that product for years.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-05-17:
Sauer's is good too, and the price is much better than Kraft around here.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-17:
Switch to Miracle Whip. It's been the same great taste for years
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-17:
Does anyone know what exactly they changed? I usually buy Hellmans, but have been known to grab Kraft if its on sale.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-05-17:
Miracle Whip is salad dressing! I never met anyone who used it that way, but isn't that what it says on the bottle?

I like both mayo and miracle whip but they is two different animules..

raven, I dunno what they changed..I grew up with the stuff but now it has a slight fishy oily taste to it. I should say that in my family, its just me that gets that aftertaste from it.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-17:
My mom makes Waldorf Salad with Miracle Whip. It's gooood
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-05-17:
I've alwasy substitued Mayo with Miracle Whip...but when I do use Mayo, it's always been Hellmanns...I don't like the chuncky look of Hellmanns, but when I use it for potato salad or Mac salad, I always use half Hellmanns and half Miracle Whip.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-05-17:
I looooove Waldorf Salad!
Posted by Starlord on 2009-05-17:
I was raised with Miracle whip, and can't stomach that white axle grease they call mayonnaise. I agree, mayo and Miracle Whip are not the same thing. Miracle Whip has half the fat and one third the calories of mayo. It also has a much better flavor.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-17:
Agreed Starlord
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-17:
Mayo only has two ingredients... how different can it be?
Posted by Crown Jules on 2009-05-17:
I agree with the OP, Kraft mayo has tasted funky to me for months now. I used to buy either that or Best Foods (called Hellman's in the east), whichever one was on sale, but now all I buy is Best Foods. Most store brands are nasty so they're out. I like Miracle Whip, but only with tuna.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-18:
Hmmm....went grocery shopping this morning, needed mayo for potato salad ( memorial day picnic YUM). Kraft was on sale, a LOT less expensive than Hellmans. Any other day, I would have bought the Kraft without a thought, due to the sale.

Thanx to this review and many of you backing it up, I decided on the Hellmans.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-18:
Sorry, C2O, MissMarple doesn't buy Kraft. Sauers, all the way.
Posted by Alain on 2009-05-18:
Looks like I'll stick to Sauers and Hellman's.
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Postum
Posted by Mountain broad on 01/30/2008
CALIFORNIA -- I'm so disappointed that you've decided to discontinue Postum. Our father used your product when we were children. Now in our 50's & 60's my sister & I love Postum & recommend it to many of our friends and family.
I can't believe that such a healthy drink has been discontinued in the name of PROFITS! Really when it comes to business I guess that's the way it is. Too bad. We baby boomers love revisitng those old habits. With some advertising,you could have even tapped into a new market. What a loss! I will boycott your products.
     
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Posted by heaven17 on 2008-01-30:
"I can't believe that such a healthy drink has been discontinued in the name of PROFITS!"

Yeah, well, it's not like they're in the business of making money or anything...
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-01-30:
It's easy to see that the poster doesn't own any stock in Kraft.
Posted by Slimjim on 2008-01-30:
You will boycott their products because as a business, they have the audacity to try and make a profit? Well here's some bad news, you didn't make a enough of a difference when you patronized them, so I'm thinking your boycott will also be spit in the ocean.
Posted by bill on 2008-01-30:
A compnay is not going to continue to sell a product that doesn't turn a profit. That wouldn't be fair to the stock holders who invest in the business.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-01-30:
Ya know when Fox canceled family guy a small but persistent group made enough noise about it till Fox put it back on the air... well that and its success on the cartoon channel not to mention DVD sales but anyway there's no harm in raising your voice. Heck, if there's enough interest maybe some smaller company will buy the brand from Kraft. Everybody needs a cause so stick to it and good luck.
Posted by spiderman2 on 2008-01-30:
I hate when companies try to make money.
Posted by grandma005 on 2008-01-30:
Postum taste dishwater anyways.
Posted by jenjenn on 2008-01-30:
I've never heard of Postum.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-01-30:
Jen, you aren't missing anything. I haven't seen or heard of that stuff in decades.
Mount Broad, maybe try Farina, it is sort of like Postem.
Malt-O-Meal, maybe?
Posted by ohb0b on 2008-02-07:
I hope this turns into a "New Coke" marketing fiasco for them. I am certainly going to choose another manufacturer when I have an alternative.
If they weren't making enough money from it, they should have sold the brand. Postum has a large niche market and would make a nice "cash cow" for a smaller manufacturer.
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Chemical box taste of Kraft Mac & cheese
Posted by Magnus4d on 04/05/2011
Not sure what Kraft did to the original Macaroni & Cheese dinner, s but with the new box design came a horrible new taste! It smells odd when the "cheese" mix is added, and tastes like a combination of cardboard and chemicals. Kraft can write "original Flavor" all over the box if it makes them happy, but it doesn't make it so! Whatever was done to cheapen up the product just lost you a 40 year loyal customer, along with everyone else I'm telling about how awful the taste is now.
     
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Posted by bargod on 2011-04-05:
I havn't noticed any change and I eat it all the time too. Maybe you bought a bad batch or something or maybe one of the workers fell off a catwalk into one of the mixers.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-04-05:
Add some extras to it: cheese, jalapenos, tuna, peas, etc
Posted by bargod on 2011-04-05:
I like to stick some weiner into my KD.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-04-05:
Tastes the same to me.
Posted by Ytropious on 2011-04-05:
The blue box mac and cheese where you add butter? It has tasted like crap to me for at least 5 years now. I can't bare to eat the stuff.
Posted by clutzycook on 2011-04-05:
it tastes like a combination of cardboard and chemicals because it IS a combination of cardboard and chemicals! :)
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-04-05:
Old Cheese Sauce:
Modified Milk Ingredients, Cheese (Milk, Bacterial Culture, Cream, Salt, Microbial Enzymes, Lipase, Calcium Chloride, Colour), Salt, Sodium Phosphates, Citric Acid, Flavour, Color (Contains: Tartrazine) Sorbic Acid.

New Cheese Sauce:
Cheese (Milk, Bacterial Culture, Salt, Cream, Lipase, Microbial Enzymes, Calcium Chloride, Colour), Modified Milk Ingredients, Salt, sodium Phosphates, Colour (Contains Tartrazine), Flavour, Citric Acid.

The lists look the same, but the changing of the order suggests that they've changed the base to a different, (presumably cheaper,) type of cheese. This could be Kraft's way of keeping the price of KD low in the face of rising food costs.


Posted by DebtorBasher on 2011-04-05:
I believe this was looked into some months ago when people complained of a chemical smell ... it had something to do with the boxes. But, I can't remember what it was they said about it...I'm sure if you Google it, you'll find some info.
Posted by midnightstars on 2011-06-13:
I'm glad we're not alone. We were starting to think our milk or butter was bad. We made two boxes,the second box made with new milk and butter,and it tasted the same as before. The kids won't even eat it! I think I'll just stick to making my own from now on.
Posted by bootlesscries on 2011-11-05:
look people, mac and cheese has always been a low end crappy product marketed towards people with no time to make real food, and it always will be.
Posted by mee too on 2012-09-17:
I noticed the box smells funny wondered if it was the new color dyes used in making the box and transferring to the product? If you buy the single boxes it taste like it did before the box change I think because the plastic is not holding 5 boxes together with the dye smell "locked in". All that said it does not taste good anyway. Get a few bags of dry Macaroni and some Velveeta and make your own or any cheese other than Kraft Have you noticed a lot of foods taste funny? best food mayo taste funny for awhile now what are these places putting in our foods? I wish I could buy all farm grown and not have to buy from our government with all the poisons they add no wonder people are so ill look at wheat it has not been the same for 50yrs! most people can not eat the foods of today I'm in my mid forty's and now have trouble with my health and not much food is digestible to me but not many choices for a diet most food does not get along I have to eat something even if I get wheat belly sometimes.
Posted by FreedomFighter on 2012-12-08:
I know that this thread started a while ago, and hopefully you know by now, but Senomyx is the company responsible for the new and unimproved bad taste of Kraft products. They utilize human embryonic cells to test artificial flavors due to the speed and efficiency of the method compared to sampling methods conducted by market research with real food and real people. The new flavor is not a flavor at all, but a flavor enhancer targeting the human taste of umami--the fifth taste aside from salty, bitter, sweet, and sour. The additive is in such small quantities that is does not need to be added to the ingredient list. The current FDA regulations therefore are limited in scope, as this "enhancer" doesn't need to be tested in the same manner as other food additives and can only be investigated to a point where is is generally recognized as safe. Do some more research on Senomyx, Kraft, excitotoxins, and flavor enhancers and I guarantee you will want to fight the good fight with me and completely restructure your diet to whole and natural foods. Cancer can be blamed on smoking, water quality, and genetics, but when you take a look at all the chemicals we take in from packaged foods, you might start to see how corporate America has been lying and lobbying to keep us in the dark and their pockets full.
Posted by mee too on 2013-02-11:
I wrote back on 9-17-12. I have been buying dry mac and making my own mac and cheese without Kraft products. Mayo tastes weird also as I had said, all Kraft is weird I do not support this company they have not figured out how to slip us the crud in our foods like other company's without us tasting it. If you like the box idea there are many store brands that taste good without the chemical flavor.
Posted by AlbinoKitten on 2013-05-30:
I just made some and almost threw it out because I thought it had gone bad, but I checked another box, and the 'cheese mix' looked and tasted the exact same.... so I taped the box back up and decided there was nothing wrong with it. I just now went online to see if I was the only one this has happened to. I'm really surprised that they changed the taste! I suppose I'll add something to mask the grossness of it for now. I'll be buying a different brand of mac and cheese from now on.
Posted by BobMacCheese on 2013-07-06:
We just tried a box tonight and the cheese taste is gone. Did anyone else notice you now need to add 1/2 cup milk instead of the 1/4 cup milk they had had forever. Starch is now a major ingredient and you need to add more milk to make the sauce as there is less cheese now. Does not taste cheezy anymore. Not worth buying.
Posted by marklynd on 2013-07-09:
I used to enjoy KD once in a while. After tasting it recently, as well as reading these posts, I will no longer purchase this product.
Posted by MeToo! on 2013-08-23:
I just tried some tonight. It was not overdue but I thought it must be. When I was a kid, I say without exaggeration, KD was my favorite food. It really tasted like cheese. This tasted, as it has for years now, like poison chemicals. It is not Kraft dinner now, except in name. It is the most vile, insipid garbage. It should be called Ersatz Dinner, and it should show a picture on the front of starving people trying to make bread out of sawdust and a handful of wheat. I actually kept thinking I'd just forgotten to make it. And another tip: if any company EVER changes the flavour "to make it more cheesy" or whatever, they are only ever doing it to save money by feeding you downgraded trash.
Posted by Raddagirl on 2013-09-10:
I thought it might be me and somehow my tastebuds had changed, but my boyfriend took a bite and said "What's wrong with this? It's horrible." then I looked online and see that YES, the company is now feeding us acrid chemical. Never again will I buy Kraft. BOYCOTT KRAFT!!
Posted by Leslie @ TheRock on 2013-09-14:
We thought we were the only one !!! It's just myself and husband - boys are gone, so a quick box of Kraft mac and cheese was quick and easy w/ a pork chop on the grill. NOPE !!! Try Annie's when time is tight.
Posted by Jaime on 2013-09-18:
We just noticed in the last month or so... It appears as though they have completely removed the cheesy flavour from the sauce mix. It is now devoid of any taste whatsoever!
Posted by Tiffany on 2013-09-21:
Oh my goodness! I am a chef and yet I have always enjoyed the Kraft Mac and Cheese every once in awhile (I know, I know...shame on me! But it's the only fast and pre-packaged thing I ever enjoy). I always add my own pasta, fusilli or rigatoni, and just use the cheese packet to make a sauce on the stovetop. I was HORRIFIED tonight when I tasted my dinner. It tastes nothing like the old Mac and Cheese. I even have a HUGE and disgusting mayonaisse aftertaste, and I HATE mayo more than anything. What on earth have they put in this??? EWWWWW! So nasty! I just about gagged. I will never be buying or making this product again. Very disappointed.....and quite hungry, now that my dinner is indelible!
Posted by Eddie on 2013-11-11:
I used to love eating Kraft Mac and Cheese, but now its light colour and i gotta say it, its disgusting taste I cannot even get through few bites before I toss it in the garbage....It smells rancid, not cheesy at all like it used to be but chemically....but like its rotten or something....I used to think I was getting rotten cheeses but then thought I can't be getting so many......I agree that change is needed sometimes to make us healthy but don't put original on package that is misleading and if you want healthy, if that is the argument, let us make the choice if you make a second product that's healthier than the original....
Posted by Gary vosters on 2014-01-06:
Can't eat the box Mac and cheese anymore .something is wrong and cheapened. My daughter still likes the single cups though .
Posted by mike on 2014-01-20:
yep I noticed this a while back... kraft screwed this up like they did their ranch. I will go with another brand.
Posted by Rick on 2014-03-19:
I appreciate seeing everyone's comments. Huge disappointment to know I'm not making it wrong and that I'll never be able to enjoy kraft mac and cheese again.
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Customer Service Review
Posted by Rhachel.t on 02/12/2010
I have called Kraft once in question of what enzymes were used in their cheddar cheese. The person on the other end seemed to think I was ridiculous for asking and suggested that there was no way to tell. Frustrated, the call ended.

I have since gone to Kraft's website to find that they use very specific enzymes in their different cheeses.

I was curious which enzymes were used in their Velveeta (specifically asking which animal). The first response told me, "Yes, we use animal enzymes," a form response, actually, that I had already read from their website. I rephrased the question, minimizing the number of questions (as I had asked a few), and the response I received only went into MORE depth on how cheeses are made. In honesty, I probably would not have been concerned with which enzymes were used (or even known that cheese requires enzymes) if I had not already known how cheese was made.

Needless to say, I am highly disappointed in the customer service quality of Kraft Foods.
     
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Posted by Inat on 2010-02-12:
perhaps they didnt know exactly what you were asking. Seems like it may have needed some context. Perhaps tell them WHY and they will tell you. just seemes like a vague reqeust
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
I'd be inclined to think that this sort of thing is a trade secret, but if you find out, homemade velveeta sounds great. Get the recipe to Miss Parples, she's my chef d'oeuvres
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
It seems as the OP had a hidden agenda to simply waste the CSR's time by wanting information that they already knew. (NH)
Posted by BEJ on 2010-02-12:
Why did you need to know this information? is there a health issue related to certain enzymes? If not, I can only agree with zzrokk, you were wasting their time and "yanking their chain".
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
Wow, if Ken had said that about me, that would have made him my joie de vivre.

Posted by Ponie on 2010-02-12:
'I have called Kraft once in question of what enzymes were used in their cheddar cheese.'
'In honesty, I probably would not have been concerned with which enzymes were used...'
Sooo? Why did you contact them? Doesn't make too much sense to me.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
oops, mardon me, Marps
Posted by shootingstar1284 on 2010-02-12:
What enzymes are used in a certain product doesn't seem like the type of information that would make its way down the bureaucratic food chain to the call center. Are you asking because you're a vegetarian/vegan? Or are you unable to consume certain enzymes for health reasons? These seem like the only logical reasons someone would contact the manufacturer for this type of info.
Posted by madconsumer on 2010-02-12:
for what reason does it matter what enzyme they use?
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
There are religious reasons for not wanting to eat products made with animal enzymes. People with these concerns eat what's called halal foods. Kraft should be able to answer questions related to that. Maybe it was just the way the question was asked. (Velveeta is not halal.)
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
None of their cheeses are most likely and the OP should know that.
Most likely trying to stir up a frivilous "veggy lawsuit."
Posted by Ytropious on 2010-02-12:
Of all the things they teach their call center staff, what enzymes are in their cheese is probably not something they all know. I think you just have to realize what you are asking is slightly unreasonable. Also cheeta they were able to say they were "animal enzymes", maybe it's not the same animal every time. That should have been all the OP needed to know.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
Cows.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
This is certainly not an unreasonable question and not so complicated that the answer cannot be provided by a CSR. For someone who is concered about this stuff, the type of animal certainly matters. In fact, Kraft already has much of this information on its website, just not for Velveeta (that I could find). From the FAQ on their website:

"Q. What is the enzyme derivative of KRAFT Singles?

"A. The process of converting milk into cheese is dependent on coagulating through the use of an enzyme. The enzymes in this product are sourced from both microbial fermentations and animal sources. The animal sources are cow, sheep, and goat."

It's different for its Macaroni & Cheese: "The enzymes used to make our cheese powder in packages of Kraft Macaroni & Cheese are derived from an animal source (calves and sheep)."

If Kraft wants to sell its products to people who are concerned with this type of information, all they need to do is make their FAQ a bit more complete. If they don't care about these customers, fine. The OP has done a good job of raising awareness about this issue.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
Chee, this site is about telling the people who write reviews and their opinions about companies how wrong they are. Someone has a problem getting the info they need to make an informed decision as a consumer, and they are challenged with "Why do you need this information" and "They told you enough info already; you don't need any more." It doesn't matter that Kraft already provides much of the info the OP is looking for, all that matters is that the OP is wrong for ever having brought it up.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
Whatever. I actually didn't see it that way.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-12:
Right on, Cheeta.
Posted by laklisa on 2010-02-13:
Noandyes, you said:"It doesn't matter that Kraft already provides much of the info the OP is looking for, all that matters is that the OP is wrong for ever having brought it up."

What?! How is the OP is wrong when they have an honest question?
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-02-13:
Sorry - you misread what I wrote. I was being sarcastic about so many of the attitudes expressed out here. OPs out here are consistently attacked for raising issues. Then they attack other posters for mentioning the obvious.
Posted by laklisa on 2010-02-13:
OHHHHH sorry :)
Posted by rhachel.t on 2010-02-15:
Actually, my concern is religious. I know that Velveeta is considered neither considered kosher nor halal, but I am specifically curious if Velveeta contains any PORK enzymes. In my experience with customer service inquiries of this sort, customer service does not give serious regard if I tell them WHY I want to know. It should be enough that I want to know what is in my food.

**Update** I have since CALLED Velveeta to ask them, and the customer service representative to whom I spoke said they get their enzymes for Velveeta from a random supplier (and don't know which animal is in there). Of course, I have gotten different answers from other companies when asking the same question to separate representatives, so I am still waiting for a response by email.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-02-15:
Solution: Do not eat cheese. At any given time all manufacturers may change their process and/or ingredients.

Avoiding processed foods for religious reasons is going to be a never ending uncertain endeavor to say the least.
Posted by rhachel.t on 2010-02-15:
Yes, I do understand that there is risk involved. If the enzymes they use rotate between cow, sheep, and goat, I'm not really concerned. If there is a chance, though, that porcine enzymes could be slipped in there, I won't consume it.

I enjoy my cheese, and I'd sacrifice it if need be, but I don't see the need yet.

There are some companies that specifically state on the labels that they use only microbial enzymes. Kraft is not one of these, though.
Posted by PepperElf on 2010-02-15:
I recommend trying a kosher cheese - which velveeta is NOT.
one website recommended using a combination of American & Chedder as a substitute.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods#Cheese

note - rennet is not considered "meat", but it must come from a kosher animal that has been slaughtered according to the laws of kashrut in order to be called kosher.

so, kosher cheese will not contain pork derived rennet.
Posted by rhachel.t on 2010-02-16:
Hmm,
Thanks, PepperElf.

I think the reasons I was looking to Velveeta were the affordability and convenience factors. While there is certainly rabbinically kosher alternative, it usually comes at far less convenience and affordability.

Of course, if Kraft doesn't pull through, I may have to look to a certified alternative for my homemade queso. ^_^
Posted by Jane on 2014-02-14:
I can't eat pork ingesting's for health reasons , I really like Velveeta and my family also likes it, but if they can't give me the answer, I will not use it anymore. Sorry Kraft I have to leave you.
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Complaint
Posted by Thirteen on 03/19/2011
I think that the commercial that you have on TV. right now is disgusting. When parents scare their children with a story like they tell them, that is not good. It is almost like saying child abuse is alright. Please try to correct this or take it off of TV. Signed::S. Davis
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-19:
Commercials are great when you have to go pee. If you have seen a commercial or ad that you would like to complain about, submit your complaint online to the ASA.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-19:
FCC.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-19:
You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.
Posted by leet60 on 2011-03-19:
Commercials are not meant to reflect reality in most instances. They are meant to attract attention and entertain enough to keep the viewer watching.

It is really not the responsibility of an advertiser to teach children the difference in reality and fiction; and if a parent feels the content is inappropriate it is their responsibility to monitor and control the viewing.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-20:
I dont think I recall this commercial which means it really didnt affect me at all if I did see it. Some people take things way too seriously. On another note, I DID try the Sugar free Jello Cheesecake pudding and I didn't like it. It tasted nothing like cheesecake.
Posted by S.Holmes on 2011-08-04:
I am so very disappointed that a company such as Kraft is using border line violence to scare kids from some adult product! Violence against children is already rampant in the US, and this promotes verbal abuse and is basically something that disgust me so very much, I will not purchase another Kraft product until you cease this ad. I assume all adults work at Kraft and this rolls off their shoulders, but this is not in the least bit humorous to adults that had food withheld from them when you were a child! This is a disgrace to your Company and insults your dedicated customers. I think we all should boycott this piece of advertising! It is blatently terrible enough for me and all my contacts to stop buying your products.
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Why take the vitamins out of TANG???
Posted by Aknepper on 07/17/2009
I have been buying TANG for the last few years for my son, who absolutely loves the stuff. There are several reasons I didn't mind giving it to him over juice... They were: 1) it was vitamin fortified and 2) it had 1/2 the sugar of 100% juice. I go to Sam's a few weeks ago and realize the container is a LOT bigger. I think, "Hmmm, there is something going on here," but I didn't have time to really look the container and ingredients over thoroughly. I get home and start to really look into why the container was so different. They have clearly added twice the sugar and took out the vitamins. Now it only contains vitamin C. Vitamin C is great, but having more vitamins in the drink mix was better for my son who can be a picky eater. The fact that they have doubled the sugar is irritating too. No wonder the container is so much bigger! They added more sugar as filler!!! Has anyone else noticed this?
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
Do you have a picture of this container?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/Products/ProductInfoDisplay.htm?SiteId=1&Product=4300010393
Posted by spiderman2 on 2009-07-17:
I have only used Tang to clean my dishwasher. Never drank it.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
I almost bought some TANG yesterday because it's been along time since I had it. I don't know why they stopped making Grape Tang, that was really good!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
It got it's notoriety back in the '60's when the astronauts took some into space with them.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-07-17:
Do the astronauts know this?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
Grape Tang? I don't even remember that!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
Well...I got to know it much, much later than those astronauts in the 60's!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
Yes they do.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
ZZ: http://whatever.losito.net/2006/12/15/grape-tang/

Uh..Grape Tang = 1970's
Basher = 28 years old
Much Older Brother = Stashing containers of Grape Tang, just in case he has a much younger sister born and he wanted her to know the pleasure of the taste of Grape Tang...

Yeah...That's it! That's the way it was!
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-07-17:
I'll tell you what is good for kids who don't like to take vitamins..they make gummi varieties now. They even make them for adults!

Also, I think Ovaltine has some good vitamins in it. And don't forget the veggies!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
Interesting, DB. The only grape drink that I like is Welch's Grape Juice.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
That's why they make V8.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
I like Welch's Grape...Concord Grape is my very favorite...Maybe that's why I like October weather so much, it's Concored Grape season!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
CONCORD! Does Ohio have any up and coming Vineyards/Wineries?
Posted by grandma005 on 2009-07-17:
My Grandson used to be given gummi vitamins. Went to Dentist and had four cavities on all four molars. Dentist said it was because of the gummi vitamins, they get stuck in molars and cause cavities. My daughter thew them away ASP.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
Yes ZZ, smarty pants, we DO!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
I bought my Dad a bottle of "Soprano's" Itailian wine today. I took a tiny taste of it...well, I touched the tip of my tongue to a drop and that stuff is YUCKY! I asked my Dad how he can drink that stuff because he might as well just drink a bottle of vinegar...he just laughed at me and said, "Are you SURE you are Italian and wasn't switched at birth in the hospital?" ...LOL!
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-07-17:
Oh grandma, I never knew! Thanks for setting me straight! VH
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
DB....aren't you the one who like's Southern Comfort?....nasty, cough syrup tastin' puke....
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
Yes, Uncle Scurvy, I DO like Southern Comfort...and Black Velvet...but wine is just not my thing!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
Miss-B....I don't know how you can drink real whiskey.....and Southern-cough syrup-Comfort...
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-07-17:
I used to love me some Southern Comfort, and Black Velvet too...and Wild Turkey!
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-07-17:
I usually get 2 or 3 5th's a year of the Wild Turkey Barrel Proof to enjoy with cigars on the patio while the kids and grandkids are swimmin.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
Is the Basher gonna have to teach Uncle Scurvy how to drink real Whiskey???
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
*Loves Wild Turkey* Neat. Just gimme a glass, dont be ruining it with ice or mixers!!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
I never had Wild Turkey.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-07-17:
NEVER?? Basher, you must get some! Best bourbon out there, IMO.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
I didn't even know it's bourbon...LOL! I'm not a drinker, I don't know much about alcohol...once in a while, I used ot have a Slo Gin Fizz at the bowling alley...lol!
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-07-17:
You gotta try the barrel proof. some of the best sippin whiskey out there.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
LOL....I thought you said it was the best "spittin whiskey out", and I wondered why you would want to drink a whiskey that's gonna make you want to spit it back out...wow, must be pruty strong stuff!
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-07-17:
'Genral, we need to get together and let me teach you a few things 'for I die.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-07-17:
Well that's mighty kind of you JKT!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-28:
OP, can I just say that YOU chose to give your kid a synthetic drink with vitamin filler over real juice. Who's fault is it that he doesn't get the vitamins he needs?
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