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Jell'O Sugar Free Cheesecake Pudding Doesn't Taste Like Cheesecake At All
Posted by on 03/20/2011
I LOVE cheesecake, so when I saw that Jell'O had a sugar free cheesecake instant pudding, I had to have it. I was very disappointed. It didn't taste like cheesecake at all. It tasted like an off-vanilla.

Definitely would not get it again.
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Posted by spiderman2 on 2011-03-20:
My mother-in-law uses a lot of sugar free jello and pudding to make pies and I think it all tastes off. It is disappointing when something that looks so good doesn't taste good :(
Posted by trmn8r on 2011-03-20:
I had a health nut colleague once who got into a "sugar-free" mode. He found a bunch of recipes and was whipping up all kinds of stuff. He was proud of his creations, and brought them into work to share with others.

I'll never forget when he gave a sample of his chocolate cheesecake, which I had already sampled, to another colleague I was sitting with. I watched as he took the first bite, and sure enough he recoiled in horror.

I eat smaller portions now, but use full fat and sugar when I bake.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-20:
I used to wake up in the middle of the night with one thought on my mind. Cheesecake. Made many a midnight run to Jack In The Box for a slice. Couldn't get back to sleep until the craving was satisfied.
Posted by Nohandle on 2011-03-20:
I can fully understand dietary restrictions calling for sugar free everything. To me there is a noticeable difference. I also don't put skim milk in a recipe calling for whole milk. Thanks Justice for those wanting to give that one a try.
Posted by Alain on 2011-03-21:
You could call Kraft at 847-646-2000. They might give you some coupons. Thanks for the warning, though, Prince!
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Posted by Thirteen on 03/19/2011
I think that the commercial that you have on TV. right now is disgusting. When parents scare their children with a story like they tell them, that is not good. It is almost like saying child abuse is alright. Please try to correct this or take it off of TV. Signed::S. Davis
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Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-19:
Commercials are great when you have to go pee. If you have seen a commercial or ad that you would like to complain about, submit your complaint online to the ASA.
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Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-19:
You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.
Posted by leet60 on 2011-03-19:
Commercials are not meant to reflect reality in most instances. They are meant to attract attention and entertain enough to keep the viewer watching.

It is really not the responsibility of an advertiser to teach children the difference in reality and fiction; and if a parent feels the content is inappropriate it is their responsibility to monitor and control the viewing.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-03-20:
I dont think I recall this commercial which means it really didnt affect me at all if I did see it. Some people take things way too seriously. On another note, I DID try the Sugar free Jello Cheesecake pudding and I didn't like it. It tasted nothing like cheesecake.
Posted by S.Holmes on 2011-08-04:
I am so very disappointed that a company such as Kraft is using border line violence to scare kids from some adult product! Violence against children is already rampant in the US, and this promotes verbal abuse and is basically something that disgust me so very much, I will not purchase another Kraft product until you cease this ad. I assume all adults work at Kraft and this rolls off their shoulders, but this is not in the least bit humorous to adults that had food withheld from them when you were a child! This is a disgrace to your Company and insults your dedicated customers. I think we all should boycott this piece of advertising! It is blatently terrible enough for me and all my contacts to stop buying your products.
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Bubbly New Year Celebration
Posted by Jsmom on 01/01/2011
My family and I rang in the new year with nachos, guacamole, and queso, made with Velveeta and Ro-Tel. As I was prepared to wash the queso from the crock pot, I added water and stepped away for a moment. When I came back, there were suds in the crock pot. I had not yet added any soap!! I tried it again. More suds! We even tried adding water to one of our serving bowls, and more suds again! Ick!! What is in this product that causes it to generate suds yet makes it safe enough for us to eat? We will NEVER buy Velveeta again!
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Posted by Venice09 on 2011-01-01:
I don't know exactly what causes that to happen, but it's not soap suds. They're more like air bubbles, and it happens with a lot of things. I don't think it's harmful.
Posted by Inat on 2011-01-01:
velveeta "cheese" has a lot of fats and other stuff to give it its consistency. If you add bubbly aerated water to it, the fats and other chems act like soap does and creates a film in which air can be trapped causing bubbles!
Posted by momsey on 2011-01-01:
I see "soap bubbles" when adding water to dirty pots and pans fairly often.

Besides, is this the first thing that made you wonder what's in Velveeta? It's supposed to be like cheese, but it's not refrigerated.
Posted by trmn8r on 2011-01-01:
When I think of Velveeta, I also think "ick". But it has nothing to do with air bubbles (note suds implies soap or detergent).

Kraft recommends that it be refrigerated. Perhaps to keep mice from getting into it?
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-01-01:
Velveeta is ick.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-01-01:
I love velveeta. Its yummy with salsa.
Posted by Obsfucation on 2011-01-01:
Velveeta is the food of the gods
Posted by Venice09 on 2011-01-01:
I think Velveeta has its place. I used to use it to make macaroni and cheese for the kids. I liked it better than the powdered stuff. It's not something I would eat on a cracker but it does melt nicely.
Posted by trmn8r on 2011-01-01:
I just noticed the OP rang in the New Year with Velveeta and Ro-tel. Rotel is a high end audio manufacturer. I understand Ro-tel is different, but I was just imagining some audiophiles chowing down on Velveeta while grooving to Stravinsky.

Venice -> yep. We used it for grilled cheese sandwiches in the '70s as I recall.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-01-01:
Velveeta is very expensive considering it's not real cheese. It's one of the few foods I have to avoid eating entirely because it causes me huge stomach problems. If it bubbles in water, what does it do in your stomach?
Posted by Nohandle on 2011-01-01:
Hold it folks!! We had an employee who would cook her ground beef at home, toss it into a slow cooker, add the Velveeta and Rotel and bring it to the office, plug it up and it looked like a bunch of field hands waiting to put some on a plate. I don't recall seeing any bubbles resembling soap suds.
Posted by MRM on 2011-01-01:
Really?!? Valveeta is not real cheese?
Posted by Ytropious on 2011-01-01:
A lot of things in my sink have that reaction. It's not soap so I'm not sure why you're upset. It's just chemistry at work.

I love velveeta and ground meat. My mom would always make "meat snacks" for new years with a good ratio of beef to velveeta, just enough for everything to be sticking together. Then she puts it on these little brown bread squares (not melba toast but similar) and bakes it in the oven. SO GOOD.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-01-01:
MRM - velveeta is a processed pasteurized cheese spread product.
Posted by Skye on 2011-01-01:
It is the sodium phosphate which Velveeta contains, that was causing the bubbles. I know all those bubbles were disturbing, but safe. After all, you ate the Velveeta where the sodium phosphate is first found.

It's like when you boil pasta, and then put the pot into the sink for washing, and fill it with water. It bubbles up, due to the starch from the pasta, that had been cooked in the pot.
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Intestinal distress caused by Kraft Olive Oil Mayo
Posted by Hatrack on 11/24/2010
I experienced two (2) episodes of untimely, loose, bowel movements, a few hours after consuming Kraft Olive Oil Mayo. Each episode after having a sandwich prepared w/Kraft Olive Oil Mayo. I am curious to know if this product affected anyone similarly
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Posted by Inat on 2010-11-24:
have you used this product before? Often, fat-rich foods often cause the symptoms you describe if you are not accustomed to eating them. I do not eat a lot of fried foods, but I love "fish & chips" which I get perhaps twice a year. When I indulge, I pay the price in teh same manner you describe
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-11-24:
I have used this in potato salad before and did not experience those symptoms.
I would be surprised if the little bit put on a sandwich caused you to react like that, but I guess it could happen if there is something in it that doesn't agree with you.
Did you also check the date to make sure you didn't get an expired jar?
Posted by GenuineNerd on 2010-11-24:
Sometimes, consuming too much fats or oils can "loosen you up", so to speak. Maybe the OP put too much mayonnaise on his sandwich, or his body reacted with one of the ingredients.
Posted by Starlord on 2010-11-24:
I just had a bout of loose bowels, and I so not eat mayo of any kind. As a matter of fact I have no idea why, it just happens once in a while. I wish you luck.
Posted by leet60 on 2010-11-24:
I have used this product and did not experience this. Olive oil, however, does have natural laxative properties. I recall a friend once at Olive Garden soaking bread in olive oil and subsequently did not make it through the meal without rushing to the men's room. I suppose it depends on how sensitive your system is.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-11-24:
When I last had a kidney stone I had to drink shots of olive oil mixed with lemon juice. The first shot was fine. All subsequent shots had to be taken on the toilet. Zero chance of drinking it in the kitchen and making it on time. That's what olive oil does. I was frightened when I saw the mayonnaise product. Having made mayonnaise from scratch I know how much oil it requires. Wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.
Posted by Venice09 on 2010-11-24:
I grew up on olive oil and never had this problem. I had no idea it had that effect.
Posted by MRM on 2010-11-24:
I am with Venice, I never had any gastroenterology problems with olive oil. And I, too, didnt know it had this ill effect.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-11-24:
Me either. But in larger quantities, be warned....
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-11-24:
Olive oil is like a natural laxative in my opinion. when ever anyone in my fam was constipated they took a shot of olive oil loosened em up quick.
Posted by MRM on 2010-11-24:
When I am climbing the ladder and what do I feel... diarrhea, diarrhea.
Posted by Venice09 on 2010-11-24:
What about olives? I eat olives all the time with no ill effects.

On my daughter's fifth birthday, she decided to overindulge in olives. Boy, did she pay the price later that night. No diarrhea, just a lot of poop! It was kinda funny.
Posted by GenuineNerd on 2010-11-25:
The "loose stools" reaction is similar to when Olestra (a "fat free" fat) was introduced over 10 years ago, used in Fat Free Pringles potato crisps and Lay's WOW potato chips. People who ate large quantities of these snacks complained of loose bowels. Products containing Olestra once had warnings about these laxative effects. Procter and Gamble was trying to get the FDA to approve Olestra for other products, including cooking oil and margarine, but as of now, all Olestra is used for still is salty snacks. Frito-Lay has since discontinued Lay's WOW chips, a couple of years after they were introduced. Fat Free Pringles are now called Pringles Light. And Olestra has not been talked about much in recent years...also, Pringles is the only food product still made by P&G...since Olestra was introduced, P&G sold most of their food divisions; Jif, Crisco, and Folgers to J.M. Smucker, and Duncan Hines to Aurora Foods. I think P&G still makes Olestra, though.
Posted by Venice09 on 2010-11-25:
Ahh, Olestra.. I remember it well. It was the only thing that ever affected me, but I'm not sure if it was mind over matter since I was EXPECTING it to. I tried fat free Pringles when they first came out, and sure enough I felt the warned symptoms. The last I looked, I saw Fat Free and Light Pringles in my supermarket. I think both are still available. I have no idea if they contain Olestra because I never bought them again.
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Problem with Pudding
Posted by Riko32647 on 11/19/2010
I bought a box of Jello Chocolate Fudge Pudding to try it and when I opened the box to make it, I saw that there were small things in the mix that looked shiny. I continued to make the pudding, thinking that perhaps this was normal, since I had never tried this product before. When the pudding was ready to eat, it was delicious until I reached the bottom. The last few spoon-fulls had a terrible taste that seemed very salty, and upon closer examination there appeared to be small strands of a white metallic-looking material in the pudding. I tried looking for a contact number to report the problem, but Kraft's website gives FAQ's instead of actual contact information, and I no longer have the package since I threw it after I finished mixing the pudding.
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Posted by leet60 on 2010-11-19:
I would notify them anyway, even if you don't have the package. At the least they may send you a coupon or something nominal.

Contact information:

Kraft Foods Inc.
3 Lakes Dr.
Northfield, IL 60093
IL Tel. 847-646-2000
Fax 847-646-6005
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Poor Quality Mac& Cheese
Posted by SHORTS on 11/16/2010
Why have you changed the cheese- in the deluxe mac & cheese - along with reducing the package size and increasing the price, it now taste terrible, is overpriced and not enough to feed a family now ! it taste like the cheap little boxes now . GOOD LUCK WITH FUTURE SALES .

I do not understand what this company is trying to do besides make more money --- I think it is going to backfire like 'new coke " did years ago !
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Posted by leet60 on 2010-11-16:
I agree with this. I used to love Kraft Mac N Cheese. I think the quality of the entire product has gone to the dogs. From the lower quality cheese to the microscopic macaroni noodles.
Posted by madconsumer on 2010-11-16:
i too have noticed the same thing.

very helpful.
Posted by Venice09 on 2010-11-16:
I honestly never understood what people saw in this product in the first place. I made it once years ago upon my kids' request and didn't like anything about it. It may take a bit more time and effort to boil macaroni, drain it, throw in some real cheese and let it melt, but it tastes a whole lot better and can even be reheated. A cheese like Velveeta works great because it melts easily and is so much better than powdered cheese.
Posted by Ytropious on 2010-11-16:
I like Kraft Deluxe but I hate the normal blue box mac and cheese. I don't recall the boxes containing less then before though. They DO have several different flavors, are you sure you grabbed the right flavor you're used to? There's original, sharp cheddar, and four cheese.
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Product Complaint
Posted by Chess15 on 10/10/2010
I have been purchasing your product for many years and never had a problem. With the price of cookies being almost $4.00 A package I have to let someone know my problem. I recently purchaed a package of Chips Ahoy cookies and they appeared to be well done around the edges, and harder than normal. They looked like they were over cooked. I can't even eat them and for that price it hurts me to throw them away. The code near the pull tab is as follows: 17mar11az1 6-3 11:17, maybe there was a problem with this batch. I would appreciate if someone looked into this matter and got back to me. In the mean time I may consider a different cookie.

Thank you in advance for your help in this situation.

peter ciolli
staten island, ny,10306
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Posted by trmn8r on 2010-10-10:
I am a bit of Luddite. I always call the 800 # on the package, and they promptly send a coupon. They are usually very nice to speak with.
Posted by rockfishing on 2010-10-10:
Not only that, but over the years that package, and cookies have gotten smaller and smaller. I love Chips Ahoys.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-10-10:
I live next to the factory. You used to be able to smell the cookies baking for miles. They don't even smell as good anymore :(
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-10-10:
I prefer homemade cookies.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-10-10:
Me too - especially if they come from someone else's home.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-10-10:
I make the best chocolate chip cookies. The secret is to use good quality ingredients and lots of butter
Posted by trmn8r on 2010-10-10:
I make my most of my own cookies also, but there is no indication in the letter that the OP has an interest in baking. And it won't help with the replacement sought, unless you plan to send some homemade ones along.

My guess is that someone willing to pay almost $4 for a bag of cookies doesn't bake very often.
Posted by Venice09 on 2010-10-11:
I've written to Nabisco a few times. They are not good at responding. You're better off calling. They'll probably send you some coupons.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-10-11:
I can't stand hard cookies..I'm a soft batch kind of guy
Posted by Venice09 on 2010-10-11:
Steve, Chips Ahoy makes a soft and chewy kind, too. My kids like them, but I think they're horrible.
Posted by mee too on 2012-09-17:
I used to buy those a long time ago they taste funny and are hard to eat they messed them up somewhere along the line as with most Kraft foods have gone on the cheep at a high expense to the consumer. I do not buy many if any Kraft foods as they taste funny and are not really edible to my enjoyment anymore or of any nutritional value.
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Who cut the cheese?
Posted by on 08/03/2010
Although macaroni & cheese is not in the same class as the other culinary delights usually posted and discussed on M3C, it has been a staple in our household for many years. Lately, it seems to me that the quality of the cheese has diminished. Is it just me, or does anyone else feel as though they have changed? Perhaps its the type of cheese they use. Maybe they switched vendors or suppliers, but it just doesn't seem to have the thick flavory quality it used to. Anymore, I'm forced to add an extra packet of cheese, just so the noodles aren't so bland. A favorite of ours is to melt the jalepeno Velveeta Cheese and use that instead. I use the macaroni and cheese as a base for several variations of meals like tuna casserole, hamburger helpers, etc...Sad to say, I've found that the "house" brands tend to have a richer flavor and darker yellow tint, instead of the pale and bland Kraft. What went wrong with one of my favorite childhood snacks?
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Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Perhaps they did change it. I'm sorry I can't really contribute anything here, because I don't use the stuff. But, if you would like a very simple recipe for making your own cheese sauce, drop me a line!
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Thanks Dryad. Always willing to try something new. It's not very often that I make things from scratch.
Posted by bargod on 2010-08-03:
Hey don't knock my KD man, I live on that stuff for years and still eat it sometimes. I mean what else are you gonna feed a tapeworm as big as mine.
Posted by Starlord on 2010-08-03:
I was raised on Kraft mac & cheese, and I thought my tastes were changing with age. I am glad to see that it is not just me. Dryad, watch your message center. So far, the store brands we have tried have failed to impress me. One was even a light brown. Ugh!
Posted by goduke on 2010-08-03:
On days when my dad travelled, my mom would make a dish with Kraft Mac & Cheese, cream of mushroom soup and chopped chicken breast (cooked of course), all mixed together. Even now, when I've had a bad day, I crave it.
Posted by goduke on 2010-08-03:
I saw an ad for the new homestyle in the paper this sunday....looked a bit interesting.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
I swear my youngest sister lived on this in college: 1 box mac-n-cheese, prepared, 1 can cream of mushroom soup, 1 can of tuna, some peas. Then, she would mix it all together. It was actually kinda good.

Posted by BEJ on 2010-08-03:
Dryad: that brings back memories. My husband fixed that for me when we were dating. That and grilling out were the only things he could cook at that time.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
I like the Velveeta mac 'n cheese, much better than the boxed crap...what exactly is powdered cheese mix anyways??
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Never tried adding the cream of mushroom, but I definitely eat it with the tuna and peas.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Starlord> Glad to see someone else notice. So I'm not going crazy, am I?
Posted by Mrs. V on 2010-08-03:
We use the Velveeta Shells and Cheese. No milk needed. It's thick, creamy and tasts very good without having to add anything exta (though we sometimes do for a different tast ^_~).
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Mrs.V +100 I forgot about those. We too buy those and they are very thick and creamy. That's the way that I remember the Kraft macaroni being back in the day. Something definitely changed:(
Posted by goduke on 2010-08-03:
And there's one with bacon.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
'Scuse me Justice, but I believe I mentioned Velveeta before Mrs V did...just cuz she has two stars and I only have one, doesn't make it OK to diss me like that!

Posted by Mrs. V on 2010-08-03:
just cause, I'm sorry, you are right, you did mention it first (didn't see it) :(

You can have one of my stars if you want, I wouldn't mind ^_^
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Aww thanks Mrs V, but those stars look good on you. ;)
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
My eyes were still blinded with fury...forgive me my fellow members and friends of the M3C community. Can I be forgiven?
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
I'm looking for some new variations. Any ideas besides the cream of mushroom?
Posted by Obsfucation on 2010-08-03:
I have two gourmet tips for Kraft M&C: if you are doing the box kind, after you drain your macaroni, don't put it back in the pan (yet). Instead, add your milk, butter and the packet, over low heeat, and sttir until it is a creamy sauce. THEN add the macaroni back. HUGE difference.
]For the Velveeta and shells, throw the foil packet of sauce in with the boiling noodles for the last 4 or 5 minutes. It will mix much easily, and be creamier.

A few years back, Kraft packaged the cheese powder separately in a shaker container, for sprinkling on popcorn. Does anyone know if it is still available anywhere? It was awesome.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Hmmm. I will try that.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-08-03:
Obsfucation, you can buy all types of popcorn seasonings that are pretty good. I have some from Kernel Season's in my pantry right now - white cheddar, butter, and caramel. I think I got them at Kroger.

Posted by goduke on 2010-08-03:
cream of chicken also works well, J4A. Pretty much any of the "cream of" soups work -- just depends on which flavor you want.
Posted by Mrs. V on 2010-08-03:
I like to add ham pieces (my nephew likes sliced hotdogs in his) to my mac and cheese along with just a bit of salt/pepper/thyme/sometimes paprika. Also 1 or 2 slices of munster cheese ^_^
Posted by Starlord on 2010-08-04:
We put Orville Redenbacher oil and topping on our popcorn with Jane's Mixed Up Crazy Salt. Deeeelish!
Posted by Baconandtomatoes on 2010-09-04:
Your observations are correct from what I have witnessed. Kraft HAS changed the recipe. I first noticed the change about 5 years ago.

At the time, my grocery would carry Kraft Macaroni and Cheese, however, some boxes listed 600mg of sodium and others listed only 580mg of sodium in the nutritional facts, despite no change in portion size. Bear in mind that this is a minimal change in sodium itself, but clearly reflects a greater change in their overall recipe. Long story short, the 600mg boxes tasted delicious, like the ones I had growing up, and the 580mg boxes were bland, less cheesy, and less characteristically "orange" upon preparation. Sadly the 600mg have since been completely phased out, and the 580mg are all that I can find on the market today.
(These observations refer only to the marked "original" recipe boxes, and explicitly not to the "shapes" or other forms of Kraft macaroni)
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How Can You Call This Food?
Posted by NATURGIRL on 07/17/2010
First I'd like to compliment Kraft foods for making it impossible to contact them by internet. Clever marketing to make sure they don't get the complaints about their horrible food. A friend gave me a box of Louis Rich 50% less fat turkey patties (white). I have never ever tasted anything so bad in my life. Do you people even bother to taste the food before you sell it to consumers/ how can you call that turkey meat? Doesn't taste like any turkey I've ever tasted. Thank god I didn't buy it myself or I would have run back to the store with it. I don't care for Louis Rich products anyway, in general their food is bad but this is unmentionable to say the least.

Very sincerely, dawn kunz
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Posted by Anonymous on 2010-07-17:
Not impossible, here's a contact link:


Posted by Anonymous on 2010-07-19:
They have test kitchens that test products before they come out in the market. Processed meat doesn't even sound good. Fresh is always best in terms of quality and taste.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-07-19:
"Friends" shouldn't let "friends" eat processed turkey.
That stuff is bland and full of salt.
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Kraft Mayo New Jars Stink!
Posted by GRAMBO on 07/13/2010
Their new round, obviously cheaper jars stink. The old sort of oval jars were great, they could be saved to store dry foods, craft stuff, etc. and provided quick access with the flip top. What they save on the jars won't make up for the customers they will lose, like me!
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Posted by Venice09 on 2010-07-13:
I don't know why round jars would be cheaper to make than oval ones, especially if they were set up to make oval jars in the past. There could be another reason they switched.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-07-14:
if it is a cost issue, would you have continued to purchase the oval jars if they raised the price?
Posted by linda on 2013-06-09:
why did Kraft go back to the old narrow openings on their jars? Really dumb and irritating!
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