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How Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis Breeder Let Us Down
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OKLAHOMA -- After reading this review, you may think twice about doing business with Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis, an AKC-affiliated breeder of cardigan corgis based in Northeastern Oklahoma.

We had contacted Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis after seeing they offered a puppy for sale on a popular pet Web site. This review chronicles how Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis has let us down after over a week of obvious runarounds.

Here are the facts.

Notz had advertised a puppy (let's call it Puppy 1) for sale on a popular pet-brokering site. We contacted Notz at the end of November, expressing our serious interested in the dog, and wanting more pictures. Notz emailed us a couple cell-phone shots, which for a $900 dog was a bit of a let-down, but we nonetheless decided the dog was perfect for us.

We call, and after getting past an answering machine stating something like "you are taking a chance by leaving a message, as I may or may not get it" (should have been a giveaway of things to come), we get to speak with the breeder.

And here's when the first switcheroo happens. She informs us that Puppy 1 was starting to display "showing qualities," and that she therefore may keep the dog for herself. She informed us that there was another Cardigan Corgi (let's call it Puppy 2) that she was willing to sell to us at the same price.

We ask for pictures, and again we get a couple cell-phone shots. Still, it turns out, Puppy 2 is just as cute, and we decide to go for it.

Here comes switcheroo 2. The breeder at Notz Cardigans informs us that, at this point, both dogs are displaying showing qualities, and that she will sell us one, but is a bit torn as to which to choose. At this, we say "fine, you decide, we'll be happy with either of them."

Yes, you've guessed it. Here comes switcheroo 3. On the first Thursday and Friday of December, we ask for the bank information, eager to pay for and receive either of the two puppies (Notz Cardigan Corgis does not take PayPal). We call, leave numbers, and email again throughout the weekend. Again, no reply of any kind.

On the following Tuesday, we get the punch-line. Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis informs us that Puppy 1 was placed somewhere else, "at a home in Beverly Hills, CA," as she makes a point of saying, as if the swankiness of the dog's new zip code would justify (or make up for) this runaround.

Puppy 2, she states, she'll hold on to for a few more weeks, just in case the dog fulfills the promise of being show-quality. No further explanation. But not to worry. They may have a new litter of puppies becoming available some half-dozen weeks in the future.

So, we were counting on getting a new puppy by Christmas, since our old dog of 17 years had passed away last year just about at this time. We had placed our trust in Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis, and we were ready to pay the considerable sum for the dog they had advertised, as well as for the shipment to a different state. This was never to be, due to the lack of communication and unprofessional behavior on the breeder's part.

I would never do business with Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis, and I caution anyone considering buying a puppy from them to think twice. If they are so shoddy about something as basic as communicating with a serious buyer of a $900+ dog, what else may they be shoddy about?

I don't want to find out, and Notz Cardigan Welsh Corgis is now squarely in our "don't do business with them!" bucket.
Company Response 03/02/2011:
The bottom line in this situation is that Tom Leoni and his wife twice said they were going to send a payment for a pup and failed to do so at the time they said they would send it. Then after a few days and other arrangements had been made because we felt that they had changed their minds, they contacted us and were unhappy.
It is not uncommon to get many puppy inquiries that seem very sincere, only to never hear from them again. This was exactly what we thought had happened in this case.
Our purpose for breeding is ultimately to get a good example of the breed by which we can further improve our breeding/show exhibition program. We do have some pups that go to pet homes in each litter and in the past years, we have been fortunate to place them with wonderful families, many of whom we hear from frequently. We do feel that Mr. Leoni's anger and drama are uncalled for in his post. He and his wife seemed like nice people, but because they were unable or unwilling to send their payment for the pup/s in question at they time they said they would send it, we were unable to work with them. We Tom wish Tom and his wife well.
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momsey on 12/07/2010:
Sorry you had such a rough time, but like you said, it's a good thing you found out now and not later that they do a lot of things wrong.

Do everyone a favor and visit your local shelter or pound or rescue group and pick up a beautiful puppy or dog from there. It will be cheaper and will do a lot of good.
MDSasquatch on 12/07/2010:
momsey beat me to it; rescue animals make the best pets.
Crown Jules on 12/07/2010:
For $900 you could probably rescue 10 puppies or adult dogs from your local shelter. Shelter animals need homes as much, if not more than, bred animals and they will love you for rescuing them and giving them a forever home.
Anonymous on 12/07/2010:
Agree w/everyone else, shelter dogs are the way to go! It takes time to find the perfect pet but in the end, its totally worth. I would love a Yorkie or German Shepherd but there is no way in h*** I would ever pay for one, not with so many homeless animals sitting in shelters! And in the event that I do go temporarily insane and "buy" a dog, I will make a matching donation to my local animal shelter. I got my dog from the shelter 5 years ago and not once have I ever regretted it! He's awesome little dude if I say so myself. All he wants is our companionship and to be fed once a day! Unlike a pedigree, he won't face breed-related health problems when he gets older either.
Anonymous on 12/07/2010:
While I agree that pet adoption is great, it isn't for everyone...nor should anyone be frowned upon for purchasing a dog from a breeder. I don't know where this phenomenon started, but people have been buying dogs (and many other animals) for decades.

The point of the review is about a particular breeder that gave a customer the run-around and clearly does not seem to be a reputable business. It's a good warning for anyone that may be thinking about doing business with them.
Nohandle on 12/07/2010:
Agreed, JC. I appreciate a warning from any member of past business dealings with a company, pro or con. I have found in this area if there is a specific breed of animal wanted if the individual will call the local shelter/humane society his name will be put on a list. When that particular breed becomes available he will be contacted. These are registered animals but the owner simply can't provide for them anymore for a variety of reasons. Many animals are quite young. Nice review.
Nohandle on 12/07/2010:
I've also discovered if you will contact your local Veterinarian clinic they might have a specific breed. Sometimes it happens someone will purchase an animal and discover a child is allergic. An acquaintance got her new Dachshund puppy that way.
Notz Cardigans on 03/02/2011:
AS THE OWNER/BREEDER OF NOTZ CARDIGANS, I feel that it is only fair that I answer Tom Leoni's accusations. The bottom line in this entire situation is that twice a payment was supposed to be sent on a certain day and it did not happen. A few days after the fact, they would contact me only to find that other arrangements had been made.
I'm sorry that Mr Leoni and his wife weren't able to understand my reasoning for going ahead and making other arrangements for these pups. It is quite common to get pup inquiries that sound very sincere, never to hear form them again because they have changed their minds. I'm unhappy that they found it necessary to post derogatory comments online. I wish them well and truly had no intention of giving them the run-around nor did I feel any need to sound uppity as was stated in his post. I merely happened to mention that I had shipped the puppy the very day they contacted me to let me know that they had not got around to sending the payment they promised to send.
I have placed several pets in the past years with many very nice people and I wish that things had been different with Mr Leoni and his wife. I meant them no harm and wish them well,
Notz Cardigans/ Sharon

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