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Do Not Deal With Paragon Honda!!
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WOODSIDE, NEW YORK -- Found a certified pre-owned Accord online and figured I would take the trip in to Queens to check the car out and hopefully drive it home today. After 3 hours of paperwork, test driving, and waiting for them to find keys to move cars out of the way for me to even start the test drive, I find out that the car was a repossession and they don't have the title to the car.

Basically, I can't buy the car because the title in not in the possession of Paragon. Title still in the possession of original owner who most likely will not sign papers to give the title up. I actually shouldn't of even been able to test drive the car in the 1st place since Paragon DOESN'T own the thing. Crooks I tell ya. Do not waste a minute of your time going to this place. Nowhere to park. You have to walk all over the place looking for the car you want. It's just plain ridiculous.

Car should have never been put on the internet in the first place. In my opinion, no one has a clue there. DO NOT DEAL WITH PARAGON HONDA!!!

Buyer beware!!!
     
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ejack053824 on 2008-02-24:
I'm not understanding this. They said it was a repossession but the owner has the title to the car? A car owner wouldn't have the title to the car if it was being financed.
Anonymous on 2008-02-24:
The title is not in the hands of the previous owner. If the car was repoed then the bank has the legal title. The dealership probably bought the car at auction and the bank hasn't forwarded the title yet. I would suspect that the dealer will have the title in the next week
Aerocave on 2008-02-26:
I have never heard one positive thing about New York City dealers...I could never work for one.
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Need an Attorney
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WOODSIDE, NEW YORK -- Ripped-off by Paragon Honda----2008 Honda element- manual-purchased at paragon Honda. Auto had a burning, smoking in driver window towed in to service for repair. Promised to be put into new vehicle salesman and manager lead me on for a month and did not put me into any vehicle. Now I have reposessed car and set for auction. I have been taken advantage of along with many other's by this paragon Honda dealership. Please respond with advice Thank you.
Company Response 02/23/2010:
My Name is Brian Benstock, General manager of Paragon Honda. It is indeed unfortunate that the bank repossessed this woman's car due to nonpayment. The dealership contacted the bank on her behalf in an attempt to assist her in the return of her vehicle, unfortunately, the consumer was unable to bring her payments current. In addition, all attempts to provide alternative financing were rejected by a series of other lenders. The customer was asking sales associates to lend her money in order to bring her payments current. Unfortunately, with no verifiable source of income, neither the dealership nor our lenders were able to secure funding for this customer. After reading her comments, it is clear that a number of facts were erroneously or intentionally left out. We sympathize with her situation, and we hope that she is able to negotiate acceptable terms with her lender.
     
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Anonymous on 2010-02-09:
Why do you need an attorney? You should have been making payments on the vehicle until your arrangements with the dealer were complete. The attorney may have been able to help you in obtaining what was promised by the dealership but if you stopped paying on the vehicle and let it get repossessed I think you are beyond the help of an attorney.
dan gordon on 2010-02-09:
it has been reported that certain Hondas had window problems as you described if moisture got into it. Nevertheless a bad switch is fixable why would you get a new car? Interesting concept of consumer rights.
goduke on 2010-02-10:
You actually may want to get an attorney for a quick consultation on your rights and obligations based upon the events and what the dealership may or may not have said.
Anonymous on 2010-02-11:
From nickyd on 02/11/2010 - Reply
HELLO I HAD MADE MY DEC 2009 PAYMENT. THE INCIDENT WITH BURNING OCCURRED DEC 10 AND FOR ONE MONTH LEAD ON TO BELIEVE I WOULD BE PUT IN NEW VEHICLE. JAN DID NOT MAKE PAYMENT AS CAR WAS IN PARAGON SERVICE LOT. PARAGON WAS DISHONEST WITH ME. [Personal name removed] IS OWNER AND SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT WAS GOING ON AT HIS CAR DEALERSHIP. I DID NOT EVEN KNOW HE WAS OWNER TILL AFTERWARDS AND TOO LATE. I PAID MY GEICO INSURANCE ALL ALONG TOO. - - - Delete

Keep your replies in the public forum. Thanks!
nickyd on 2010-02-11:
THE OWNER OF PARAGON HONDA I FEEL IS AT FAULT WITH MY 2008 HONDA ELEMENT. THE INCIDENT OCCURRED DEC. 10 AND I MADE MY HONDA FINANCE PAYMENT IN DEC. 2009 ALONG WITH MY GEICO INSURANCE. THE AUTO SAT IN PARAGON SERVICE LOT.I WAS PROMISED TO BE PUT IN NEW VEHICLE AND I BELIEVED DEALERSHIP? ONE BOSS TOLD ME JAN 23,2010. HE COULD NOT HELP ME I IMMEDIATELY WENT TO HILLSIDE HONDA WHO WANTED HONDA ELEMENT VEHICLE. I COULD NOT RETRIEVE HONDA ELEMENT. AFTER 3 YEARS I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE REAL OWNER. I KNOW HE COULD SOLVE THIS ISSUE VS. ME FILING COMPLAINTS ETC. BEING THE OWNER OF PARAGON HONDA HE SHOULD DEFINITELY KNOW EVERYTHING AND BEEN INVOLVED AND COMMUNICATING & HELPING HIS CUSTOMER. I TRUST TOO MUCH.
Anonymous on 2010-02-11:
Nicky, you have my total agreement until you said you stopped making payments. Your debt and your payment arrangement is held by the finance company. The sad truth of it is they do not care where the car is; they simply want their money. Now all you are left with is a broken promise from a dealership (that should have never been trusted in the first place) and a repossessed auto.
PepperElf on 2010-02-11:
technically if he's not making payments... can't they repossess the car?


oh never mind it looks like they DID repo the car.


which is what happens if you decide to not make payments. even if you feel it's "justified" to not make payments, it doesn't negate their legal ability to take the car back
nickyd on 2010-02-14:
THANK YOU FOR ALL HELPFUL COMMENTS ON PARAGON HONDA WITH PROBLEM OVER 2008 HONDA ELEMENT. I'M TRYING TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION & UNCLEAR AS TO WHAT MY NEXT STEP IS? I'D LIKE TO FILE SOME ACTION AGAINST THEM IF ANY FURTHER IDEAS PLEASE LET ME KNOW MARIA
Anonymous on 2010-02-14:
Maria, unfortunately if you did not make payments and the car was repossessed your choices on action to take are very limited. Have you consulted an attorney yet? There are many that will give you a free or low cost consultation to assess the situation. This may be your only option.

I know it sucks, I know you are frustrated with the way the dealership handled your situation but ultimately it was you that stopped making payments that allowed the finance company to repossess your vehicle.
Honda Guy on 2010-02-25:
The reality is that the consumer was two months behind with her car payments when she came to us, she simply could not or would not bring her payments current. Several of our associates attempted to secure a loan on her behalf, unfortunately, her credit issues were not limited to just the automobile loan. With no down payment, no cosigner, and a car loan that was in default,we were unable to secure a new loan for the consumer. We strongly advised that she make immediate payments to the lender, this suggestion was made in person and in writing. No payments were made despite numerous calls by the lender, eventually her vehicle was repossessed...
nickyd on 2010-02-26:
THIS IS ALL FALSE AND LIES. THERE WAS DEFECT IN 2008 HONDA ELEMENT. THERE WAS SMOKING AND BURNING IN VEHICLE... I WAS LEAD ON FROM DEC 18 UNTIL JAN 23 THAT I WOULD BE PUT IN NEW VEHICLE. I WILL CONTINUE FILING CHARGES AGAINST THIS PARAGON HONDA FOR MISLEADING ME. THE OWNER DID WRONG TO ME WHEN I FINALLY FOUND WHO HE IS AFTER 3 YEARS. NO-ONE WOULD TELL ME WHO THE REAL OWNER OF PARAGON HONDA IS.. THANK YOU
jktshff1 on 2010-02-26:
Would you mind providing a link to the proof of the defect?
PepperElf on 2010-02-26:
I'm thinking someone needs to stop partying with they were-goats. looks like he got tipsy, tripped, and landed on the caps lock... several times
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Paragon Honda - a bumpy ride, but a good deal in the end
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Paragon "sold" us a car and assured us that when we came back with the check it was ours. We came back, the car was gone, they did not bother to notify us. At other times they couldn't find keys, everything took a very long time. But Joe made a real effort to make it right, found us a comparable car at the same price, and everything turned out okay and we got, I think, a good deal.
     
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Anonymous on 2009-11-30:
Did you sign any paperwork? Put down a deposit?
Anonymous on 2009-11-30:
If someone came along during the time that you were gone and offered more money for the car, then any dealership would sell the car to them. Unless you signed paperwork firs or put money down. If you didn't, then the car is still on the market
JR in Orlando on 2009-11-30:
I wonder whether there wasn't a time limit on coming back. So often people selectively hear what they want, "just come back" instead of "just come back by tomorrow morning."
spiderman2 on 2009-11-30:
How long was it before you came back with your check? Why would you even go there this latest time if you have had repeated bad experiences with them? I wouldn't buy a car from the local Chevy dealer if they were only charging $1 for them because they stink....lesson learned on my part.When people s how you who they are......believe them!
disgruntledagain on 2009-12-04:
We came back as soon as we could - Monday morning at nine a.m. when the bank opens. It's true, the car is still on the market, but this wasn't made clear to us - we got conflicting information. Eventually they did make it right.
Ponie on 2009-12-04:
According to you, 'they did make it right.' In that case, shouldn't this have been an 'Informative' rather than a 'Complaint?' If no money/receipt changed hands and someone came in with ready cash, I'd expect them to sell it.
PepperElf on 2009-12-04:
wait.
you paid for the car and it disappeared?

personally I would have said "give me my bloody money back" and found someone else


but I'm glad you were happy with what they gave you
Ponie on 2009-12-05:
Pepper, if they put money toward the car and when they returned it was sold, I'd really be ranting and raving. But I didn't read it this way, did you?
PepperElf on 2009-12-05:
that's what I thought happened.

that they put money down on the car and came back to find it sold.


or was it just that they were planning on buying it?
cos if you're just planning on buying until you sign the paperwork or hand money over, it's still up for grabs.
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