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High fructose corn syrup
Posted by Deesdabeth on 04/24/2005
HENDERSON, NEVADA -- After 40 years of drinking my favorite beverage (Pepsi), I now have to give it up. When high fructose corn syrup was substituted for real sugar, I began to gain weight. Then my blood sugar levels became erratic. At first, I couldn't figure out why. I wasn't eating, drinking, or doing anything any different. I was unaware that the formula for Pepsi syrup had been changed. The public was not informed by the Company. Now some of the bottles say "sugar or high fructose corn syrup". It is highly important that the public know which one it is!These two ingredients are not the same. They react extremely differently in the human body.
I am not reacting to the many controversial reports on HFC, but to the fact that since I have discontinued drinking Pepsi ( and all other drinks containing HFC) my weight is back down and my body is getting back to my norm. Diet drinks are not an option, since chemical sweeteners are unacceptable. PLEASE PUT THE REAL SUGAR BACK IN THE FORMULA!!!
     
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Posted by virginiasoreback on 2005-04-24:
"Deesdabeth" I remember when High Fructose Corn syrup began to taint some of the beverages we enjoyed. It must be that HFC is cheaper than cane or beet sugar and helps to inflate the corporate "bottom line." I have a definite preference for cane sugar; and if it's "Domino Sugar" - that makes it all the better; because our maternal grandmother convinced 'us' that "if it ain't Domino - it ain't sweet!"

I noticed in today's ad supplements that Pepsio is hawking 1 calorie Pepsi sweetened with Splenda, the "non-artificial" sweetener made from sugar. Splenda is far superior to the artificial sweeteners I've tasted; but it ain't "Domino!"
Posted by angeleyes on 2005-04-24:
Through my expierence high fructose or corn syrup is just another way to say sugar. It is all the same just using different words to say sugar.
Posted by NeveragainAmazon on 2005-04-24:
Fructose is a "simple" sugar.....and the reason for the weight gain is because of the release of insulin in the body that tells the body to stop converting food to energy and start storing everything as fat! Hence, the weight gain!
Posted by virginiasoreback on 2005-04-25:
The explanations given by “angeleyes” and “NeveragainAmazon” are convincing and are obviously based on sound chemical fact.

It seems that a discussion with a Registered Dietitian or a Medical Specialist who focuses on, perhaps, metabolism or weight management would be helpful in view of the chemical explanation.

Me! I strayed from "Deesdabeth's focus on weight gain and wandered to “taste;” I apologize for that. But, I do detect a distinct taste difference between beverages sweetened with HFCS and cane sugar. It may be due to individual sensitivity.

Thanks for the information.


Posted by NeveragainAmazon on 2005-04-25:
Please do not patronize me Soreback! My information is from a weight management forum as well as Nutrition 101. I do not post things I can not back up! Maybe you would be a bit more informed if you research before belittling!
Posted by virginiasoreback on 2005-04-25:
This is long, tedious and no doubt boring. And, I suggest that you be kind to your eyes and skip it. But, I invite the “responders to Deesdabeth’s post” to slog through it.

I apologize to you “NeveragainAmazon!” If I came across as patronizing – I assure you – it was not my intent. I know that I had no moral or scientific authority to do that. The only reason I can think of for giving that impression is that I unknowingly strung some words together in a haphazard way. This has happen to me before and then, as now, I was surprised when I learned of an unintended gaff.

Truth be known - I was trying to give some (positive and sincere) feedback to you and to “angeleyes” - acknowledging that - although I had given a “chit-chat” response you had given “Deesdabeth” the benefit of a reasoned and reliable response based in scientific fact. I said, in part, that the explanations given by you and “angeleyes” are convincing and are obviously based on sound chemical fact;” perhaps I should have said “scientific fact.” But, I don’t think that that strayed too far from what I thought that you meant.

Here’s the point that I believe that I failed to be clear about and caused you to “call me on the carpet:” “Deesdabeth” expressed the belief that she believed that when PepsiCo replaced “regular” sugar with High Fructose Corn Syrup in the Pepsi beverages she drank she noticed a gain in weight that she did not want. She wished that PepsiCo would use “regular” sugar instead of High Fructose Corn Syrup because “regular” sugar didn’t cause her to put on unwanted weight.

You told “Deesdabeth,” correctly I believe, that (in essence) that “sugar is sugar” in all of its saccharide guises. The body, as I understood you, doesn’t care if it is fed sucrose, fructose, maltose, dextrose or whatever kind of sugar (glucose at some point becomes a player) it treats them all the same and in conjunction with insulin - can impact the body in some powerful ways.

This is what I was able to understand based on your ‘scientific method’ approach in analyzing “Deesdabeth’s” concerns and yes; her confusion, according to your explanation of the science.

You mentioned Nutrition 101. I learned some valuable lessons from your explanations but it is my belief that “if the student falls to learn – the teacher has failed to teach.”

In spite of the lessons - “Deesdabeth may still believe that HFCS causes her to gain unwanted weight but “regular” sugar does not. She was told, by you – to a scientific certainty – that she is mistaken in her belief that HFCS causes her to gain weight – and “regular” sugar does not.

It was at this point that I suggested that “Deesdabeth” might be helped by consulting a Registered Dietician or a Medical Practitioner who specializes in weight management or in matters of metabolism.

I did not or did not intend to suggest that “Deesdabeth” get a “second opinion” after hearing your opinion – it was a suggestion that she get a “second opinion” of “her own opinion” because you had demonstrated to a reasonable scientific certainty that she was probably mistaken about her assumptions about the effects of metabolizing sugar; any and all kinds of sugar.

The fact that I thought that the “Pepsi” post was refreshingly honest and forthcoming - I hope that “Deesdabeth” doesn’t think that that admission is in any way meant to be condescending; nobody has or should cut me that kind of warped slack.


Posted by NeveragainAmazon on 2005-04-25:
Soreback, apology accepted! I will not go into detail....but will rack it up to "experience." Just for the record....My post was not written with the meaning or intent to discredit what you wrote to the author...nor do I feel you insulted the author in anyway! Maybe my play of words was written in the wrong context, as well. If I did come across that way....I apologize!
Posted by virginiasoreback on 2005-04-25:
NeveragainAmazon, I thank you for your gracious acceptance of my “not-so-easy-to-make” apology.

Your candor and broad perspective that allows you to transcend the fallout from a transitory breakdown in communication is appreciated as a collegial gesture that compels me to, “grudgingly” admit that that was “an act of class.”

But, I suspect that we will finds teeth gnashing issues, “down the road;” knowing it is necessary, I believe, to roil the debate necessary to generate the tension that is the “life’s blood” of progress.

Your treatise on sugar, insulin, energy, the dynamics of the storage of fat, etc. was enlightening; but – SCARY!

On this day; on this occasion, I salute you!



Posted by Anonymous on 2005-04-25:
How'd that taste, Softback? 'Never' hit you right between the eyes with knowledge of the subject. No GOOGLE needed. Since we are on the subject of sugar va., let bizbuz know that alchohol can be derived from sugar.
Posted by Anonymous on 2005-04-25:
Softback clocks out and here comes bibuz! Did you google up the process to derive alcohol from sugar yet? That would save you a LOT of money you know? Maybe treat yourself to a decent meal. Try Long John Silver's. The have a self serve condiment table so you can load up on the tartar sauce!!
Posted by Slimjim on 2005-04-25:
Another dropped fly on a Pepsi products thread. Biz, can your id's please stay on the bench and we promise you can pinch hit on the next moonshine informative.
Posted by Anonymous on 2005-04-26:
Slim, to give bizbuz a reason to have a "voice" on this site. How about a debate in regards to molassas (sp) vs. sugar? What makes the best hooch?
Posted by Slimjim on 2005-04-27:
And that babble’s funny why..?? This coming from someone who the only thing he’s managed, is to somehow keep his liver from imploding.
Posted by Slimjim on 2005-04-28:
I not nthebiz anymore as I made moves to enjoy a better quality of life. Working people call this a career change. An upgrade to your life quality seems to be scheduled around new releases of Madden games for playstation
Posted by Anonymous on 2005-04-28:
Backinbooze is so stuck in the past that he's probably still trying to master PONG!
Posted by TXRoadTrip on 2005-04-28:
They switched years ago, it's cheaper then sugar. Yes you will gain weight with corn syrup.
Posted by Anonymous on 2005-05-02:
Do you remember when, tax? Was it about the same time biz, started "spiking" your Mountain Dew with Vodka? A.T.F. or F.D.A. who would know?
Posted by TXRoadTrip on 2005-05-05:
Acutally had Mouintain Dew with Jack Daniels and Vodka before at different times, we ran out of Pepsi, it was ok. Try it.
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Frustrated with flimsy bottles.
Posted by Dldavis0536 on 03/28/2014
MIDLOTHIAN, VIRGINIA -- Please do something about your bottles. They are so flimsy that they collapse and the cap does not screw off the first time opened, they pop off. I will stop using Aquafina if this will be the norm for your bottles of water. Aquafina has been my first choice in the past but I may switch to someone who has a sturdier bottle. This is the first time I have complained but I feel it is important to let you know that it is very frustrating for consumers to use your flimsy bottles.
     
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Posted by clutzycook on 2014-04-02:
Pretty much all drink companies are going this way. It uses less plastic which is better for the environment
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New 1.5 liter drinks.
Posted by on 11/10/2011
I'm a big soda drinker, and I have always picked up a two liter of Dew or Pepsi every few days. Generally they would go for a $1 but now at most stores I have been to the prices have gone up to $1.79 I know its not that much but meh what can I say I'm cheap.

Today I noticed Pepsi came out with a new bottle 1.5 liter, these ones go for 99 cents. I bought a bottle of dew and Pepsi, Even though its not as big as a two liter I find it adequate for my needs.
     
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Posted by Old Timer on 2011-11-10:
I think they mix up the prices and package sizes (mostly smaller now) just to try and confuse us. Less product + bigger price = more money for the corp.
Posted by Venice09 on 2011-11-10:
I haven't seen the regular price of a two liter at $1.00 for a long time. It's been between $1.59-$1.79 around here for quite sometime. I'm glad I can live without soda. I rarely even buy it on sale anymore.
Posted by Venice09 on 2011-11-10:
It's true, OT. There are so many different sizes/packages/prices that it's just too much trouble to figure out.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-11-10:
It has boggled my mind why the 32 ounce sodas cost more then say a two liter.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-11-10:
I started getting off brand sodas since they taste the same RC cola, DR thunder pretty much same thing those are 79 cents.
Posted by swimjim on 2011-11-10:
I believe it's all about quantity and pricing, volume, etc. Have you noticed the 18-packs of soda now for sale in stores?
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-11-10:
I drink water from our fridge. That's cheaper and healthier than soda. Wally, weren't you trying to cut back on the soda?
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-11-10:
You have me confused with wallyworld.
Posted by madconsumer on 2011-11-10:
yes it is called SODA!!

great review!
Posted by momsey on 2011-11-10:
I never pay more than a buck for a 2 liter bottle of SODA. Pepsi is usually 5 for $5 or occasionally 10 for $10. Good to know they are doing this so I can be aware. Coke tried that awhile ago but I noticed they're back to all 2 liters again.
Posted by Alain on 2011-11-11:
Useful to know since I like my diet wild cherry Pepsi!
Posted by Starlord on 2011-11-13:
I don't understand why people insist of saying that the soda companies are making bigger profits. Try checking out the cost of the ingredients in sodas nowadays. It is a truism of business that if your materials cost more, you must charge more. They are not charitable foundations providing soft drinks at cut prices.
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The new throwback Pepsi tastes horrible
Posted by Bob82842 on 06/27/2011
I, m 65 years old and have been drinking Pepsi all my life. from 6-12 a day. I bought 4 1/2 racks the other day, and this stuff tastes bad the Pepsi throwback. how do I get a refund on this nasty tasting stuff?
     
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Posted by Starlord on 2011-06-27:
I am just short of 65, and I have been drinking Pepsi since I was eleven, and Coke changed it's formula or something. The past couple of years I have been drinking Pepsi One, as it is the only Pepsi product made with Splenda. Regular Pepsi is made with High Fructose Corn Syrup, and everything else is sweetened with aspartame. I don't care what the commercials for the HFCS crowd say, chemically altered corn syrup is NOT the same as regular sugar. My wife and I both get horrible headaches if we drink anything containing aspartame. I have tried the Throwback Pepsi, as well as Mexican Coke, also made with real sugar. Sadly, corporate has decided in their infinite wisdom to discontinue Pepsi One. I just guess we will have to switch to Diet RC, also sweetened with Splenda. If I wasn't diabetic, I would drink nothing but the Throwback, but they will probably discontinue it also.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-06-27:
Take it back to where you purchased it from and request a refund.
Posted by GenuineNerd on 2011-06-27:
Diet Rite uses Splenda also. There is a version of Diet Coke that uses Splenda, but it's not available nationwide. The local bottler in Cleveland carried Diet Coke With Splenda for about a year or so, but it later got discontinued. The product is still listed on the "My Coke Rewards" website, so I feel it's only a regional product now.
Posted by GenuineNerd on 2011-06-27:
I had a friend of mine who tried the throwback versions of Pepsi, Mountain Dew, and Dr. Pepper, but he found them too sweet. His tastes apparently became acclimated to high fructose corn syrup, thus he found the "real sugar" versions too sweet.
Posted by trmn8r on 2011-06-27:
When Snapple changed from HFCS to sugar a year or two ago, I didn't like the new version.

I found that after several months, I came to like the new version even better. It took some time to kick the HFCS habit.

The HFCS had caused me some negative health effects, which have gone away. So it is a win-win in the end. Maybe give it some more time?
Posted by Oleic on 2014-01-15:
I taste aspartame in the Pepsi throwback. I have read that there are many foods and drinks out there with aspartame listed as "natural flavors" because it technically is naturally occurring.
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Super Bowl Commerical For Pepsi
Posted by Mingus on 02/07/2011
DECATUR, GEORGIA -- I'm appalled you would show the most unfavorable display of bad attitude and violence being perpetuated by Afro-Americans in the most widely viewed audience you will probably have this year at last night's Super Bowl game.

I think the commercial lacks sensitivity and disproportionately shows black people in a very negative view. You have hit every stereotypical image ever created by most marketing and adverting companies. You would think, this type of unbalanced portrayal of Black people would have long been abandoned.

I am extremely disappointed in your decision to commercialize the character and integrity of a whole race of people.


Wayne K. Jones
     
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Posted by SteveWiginowski on 2011-02-07:
I saw this commercial and there was nothing wrong with it. I think the person is being overly sensitive. It'd be like saying that the Doritos commercial where he was tricking his dog into running into the door shows white people as people who are cruel to animals and try to hurt them.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
I saw this commercial, and my first thought was "wow, what stereotyping!" But then it dawned on me, will there never be a time when we can show black people and white people just being *people* without worrying about whether we are perpetuating some stereotypes? Or does it never end, and it's best not to show blacks and whites interacting as *people*, lest someone be accused of racial shenanigans?

There's the Chase bank commercial where you can earn cash back by using their card. Great. But in the commercial, they show a black guy being handed money by lighter-skinned people saying "this is yours." It's real easy to think Chase is suggesting reparations are owed to the black community. OR maybe - MAYBE - they are just showing a guy using their card, and the guy happens to be black.

I guess I can't say what's going on in their hearts. I can say the Dorito's commercial did not induce me to want to buy any of their chips, though it did prompt an interesting conversation. But what are they selling - chips or a conversation?
Posted by momsey on 2011-02-07:
I only saw this commercial because I was reading an article that had links to some of the more memorable commercials. I thought it was funny and cute and I didn't think the color of the actors' skin color had anything to do with anything. It could have easily been a white or Asian or any other color/creed/nationality actress in her place.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
I thought it was fine right up until the end when the blonde white ho got cold-cocked by the pepsi can. That seemed like some deep racial *BEEP* to me.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2011-02-07:
I thought it was hilarious.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
Excellent response, SteveWiginowski.

mingus...I'm more appalled that 99% of the super bowl commercials this year had sexual innuendos in them. I'm tellin' ya, if my daughter grows up to be a ho I'm suing CBS.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
I'm curious if the OP thought the Coke commercial was racist (the one where they drew a line in the dirt to change the border line so the guard on the other side could have the Coke)
Posted by trmn8r on 2011-02-07:
just_cause -> I agree. Sexual innuendo is running rampant on tv. Unless I am mistaken is has become more blatant in they past few years. If I had young children it would concern me. Since I don't, all I have to worry about is what's for dinner, which reminds me...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2011-02-07:
The black woman who played the part in the commerical obviously didn't think it was stereotyping, so I don't understand why others would. If it was played out by someone of a different race as a black woman, then maybe it would be a stereotyping issue...
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
trmn8r, it concerns me too...it is much more rampant than at any other time and no doubt will continue to get worse. Trust me, when my daughter asked me what "you've got a nice rack" meant last night I was a little teed off at Faith Hill.
Posted by momsey on 2011-02-07:
OMG, how about that Sealy commercial? I was a little embarrassed watching it with a group of adults. I was so happy my son wasn't older.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
Oh I see we don't have a problem with a black woman bludgeoning a white woman with a pepsi can but let the focus turn to fatih hill's awesome rack and it's hell in a ham basket.

Whatever I'd rather admire a nice rack than witness interracial violence any day of the week.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2011-02-07:
What happened to the days when Red Skelton or Bob Hope would look at the audience and smile or raise their eyebrows, the old people knew what they meant, but the youngsters didn't.
Now kids are exposed to much more and a greater variety of stuff at an earlier age.
Posted by momsey on 2011-02-07:
Lord, would you have preferred it if it was a white woman beaning a white woman? It was unintentional (she meant to hit her husband) and I don't see what race has got to do with it.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2011-02-07:
Disgusting as the commercial is Pepsi was successful. It got your attention. If no one commented and just avoided the product it would do a better job than this "corporate support" that is being indirectly provided.
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
momsey, Race had everything to do with it. It wasn't by accident they chose to cast a white woman as the target of a black woman's ire caused by her black husband giving the white blonde girl 'the look'. The truth is the the creators of the commercial intentionally used race as a prop.

Some people find it offensive and some don't. But don't insult my intelligence and tell me it wasn't racial. I'm way smarter than that.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2011-02-07:
Man-O-Man, I sure miss ZZ...
Posted by Anonymous on 2011-02-07:
"Oh I see we don't have a problem with a black woman bludgeoning a white woman with a pepsi can but let the focus turn to fatih hill's awesome rack and it's hell in a ham basket."

Obviously you're just talking out your hind end now, Lord...that commercial had nothing to do with Faith Hill's awesome rack. Puhleeeze...before you spout off, know what you're babbling about comprende??
Posted by madconsumer on 2011-02-07:
very good point poster!!

very helpful.
Posted by momsey on 2011-02-07:
So, Lord, white on white (or black on black) violence would be ok? It's just because it was interracial?
Posted by beanbagbritches on 2011-02-07:
I just didn't find it a very funny commercial, regardless of any racial tension. It was just sort of weird.
Posted by danny54 on 2011-02-07:
I missed most of the Super Bowl. Today, though, I saw the Doritos commercial where 1 guy tells the other "he missed the best part", and when it showed the "best part", I about lost my lunch! How Crude!

On the other hand, the Volkswagen commercial with the kid pretending to be Darth Vader was priceless!
Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2011-02-08:
The commercials were all good for a chuckle but I didn't see any one stand out above another. I'm just wondering if the commercial showing the infant being thrown against the window and slowly sliding down would be insinuated as child abuse?
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Pepsi Packaging
Posted by Bnsck on 06/03/2010
I just want to congratulate the Pepsi Cola company on their packaging for the Pepsi Frigmate. They finally got it right! I was able to open the end of the cardboard container without destroying the whole package. Some genius in that company ( or the packaging company) finally figured out how to create a dotted line that actually separates where it should.
     
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Posted by Venice09 on 2010-06-04:
I'm a packaging fanatic, too. I can't stand when packaging doesn't work the way it's supposed to, especially when it seems so simple. I like Pepsi products, so I'm glad to hear they got it right.
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Pepsi Attacks Jesus
Posted by Victim Of Discrimination on 03/30/2009
Pepsi's sponsorship of the Family Guy episode includes the phrase "Jesus hates many people, but none more than gays".

This is a vile, untruth mocking all Christians and our most holy saviour. The pro-gay stance of Pepsi is hate-filled and exclusionary. They have made a great effort to marginalize those of us who choose to not endorse the sexual behavior of promiscuity; especially same sex promiscuity.

Call Pepsi At (914) 253-2000
     
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Posted by goduke on 2009-03-30:
I imgaine folks of faith are going to find all sorts of objectionable material in pretty much all of the Sunday night fox line-up -- Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad. Maybe not King of the Hill.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
God,please save me from your followers.
Posted by Slimjim on 2009-03-30:
Why not include the many other advertisers during Family Guy episodes. What makes Pepsi any different than the others, who also have no control or heads up of show content?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Personally, I think this post is very hateful. Thankfully, everyone does not share these beliefs.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Victim Of Discrimination, it's all about money, nothing else, nothing more. Fox will do what ever they can for the almighty dollar. Everyone and eveything is subject to getting thrown under the bus with Fox.

"It's all about the money", period.
Posted by old fart on 2009-03-30:
Amen Superbowl ! The Australian A-hole that controls all of the Fox properties needs to be deported and the smut and disinformation he peddles should be wiped off the map...
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I think it's called free enterprise and although I am not a fan of Fox, many are. If they didn't have so many viewers, they wouldn't still be on the air. Besides, they do employ a lot of people in the US and all over the world.

As a side note, I was at an American Embassy the other day, and they had the television on in the waiting room. It was tuned to the BBC channel. No Fox, MSNBC or CNN for them, lol.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I don't know OldF,but I think Foxnoise can be hillarious.Its my 'Comedy Central'.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I think 'Comedy Central' is pretty funny stuff most of the time. But I seldom leave CNN to see who's doing what to who on FOX.
Posted by old fart on 2009-03-30:
Rupert Murdoch is the worst thing that's happened to TV news in years...The slime he puts out on FOX news is the lowest form of journalism and should be boycotted by all TV viewers..Especially Hannity and Glen Beck..!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
How do you really feel about FixNoise OldF? lol
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
There are shows on nearly every network, if not all of them, that could be singled out for one thing or the other...and it's not just Pepsi that is sponsoring this particular show, so why are you focused only on them?

When I was a kid, there were parents that thought the Care Bears were the work of the Devil, I never did understand that.
Posted by old fart on 2009-03-30:
Trainwrecker... Gee, is my description too subtle?...LOL
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
a little.....lol

My Pops told me he was sending me Bill O's book when he's done reading it..I told him to wait until the weather gets cold again,so I can use it as kindling in the fireplace
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
old_fart -- Point of order. Rupert Murdoch may have put Fox News on the air but LOYAL viewers keep it there. Holy smokes Fox News has more viewers than MSNBC and CNN put together. If you wanna blame anybody for FNS success then blame people like me who watch it religiously even if for nothing more than comedic value. I kants starts my day without 'The Fox & Friends'. That MILF Gretchen gives me a funny feeling in my no-no special place.

As for the review -- I don't know this Jesus fellow but he needs to lay off the gays I'll tell ya what. Hating people you don't know is not COOL!

Posted by old fart on 2009-03-30:
Wise decision TrainwrecK!
It seems that FOX picks up all the republican losers and tries to deify them..
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
TW, ask your Dad if he has any more copies. A little fire in the fireplace would be nice.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I asked him if he recieved the "we say Christmas" bumper sticker with the book order..He did not.

Posted by old fart on 2009-03-30:
Crabs... I watch it too... It's like watching a 20 car expressway accident in slow motion..

As far as the subject of the thread, it seems as though he's criticizing Pepsi for being pro-gay and anti- gay simultaneously..

Very confusing...!
also, very bigoted...
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
old_fart - Tremendous point!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I find a great deal of truth in that statement. None seem to hate as much as those who hate in the name of God. I'll stand on the side of Family Guy, and you can stand on the side of Reverend Phelps.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
OF writes:
...."The slime he puts out on FOX news is the lowest form of journalism and should be boycotted by all TV viewers..Especially Hannity and Glen Beck..!"

Why OF, because YOU don't agree with what they think and say? They are more spot on than those clowns on MSNBC, ABC, NBC or CBS in my opinion.
The only one that I dispise on FOX is that witch, Ann Coulter.

Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Zz, Ann Coulter has given witches everywhere a bad name.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Indeed zzrokk! Indeed! I had no idea the economy was great during the Bush W. administration until 'The Fox & Friends' told me that Obama inherited a fundamentally sound economy from Bush & Co. That's why I LOVE Fox News.. They don't let the facts get in the way of their reality. And face it the last thing we need today is a heaping serving of reality. Fox News tell me the news I want to hear not the news I need to hear! And for that we should all be appreciative!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Crabs my good man, yes some people on FOX can twist the truth just as the majority of mainstream journalists do that lean to the left and they are a lot better at it might I add.

Supes, you are so correct and I apoligize to all witches out there that I may have offended.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Oh I couldn't agree with you more zzrokk about the left wing mainstream media. Everybody knows the truth has a well known liberal bias.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
"....Everybody knows the truth has a well known liberal bias....."

Huh?

Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I wonder if Ann Coulter ever gets moody?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I'd like to see John McCain's Daughter beat Ann (Coulter) down for calling her fat.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Id like to see that too ZZ.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I'd love to see Ann in a good bar fight anytime. Bet she could probably hold her own. Nobody can really be that mean and unhappy in real life.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
she must live where it rains all the time.She is never in a good mood
Posted by DRVROFRED on 2009-03-30:
I'm sure every company has people running it with many different faiths. It's only when they flant it in the news that get people upset. The only real truth I know for everyone is Jesus doesn't hate anyone. He hates the sin but loves the sinner.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I don't know Supes, have you ever watched Nancy Grace?
My money would go on the the other chick. Ann is all talk.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I belive Laura Ingraham called his Daughter fat.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
You're right Wally...you sure do know your catfights...lol
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
My mistake.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
the funny thing is all the people that say they hate fox news watch it extensively. thus giving them ratings.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
It takes a big man to admit he made a mistake. It takes an even bigger man to make fun of that man.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
its hillarious Wally.I find more stand up routines on fixnoise than on comedy central.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
*LOL* Whatever, Crabs!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
You got that right TW.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I get my comedy relief from MSNBC.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I think its funny too Wally...Keith Olbermann verbally smacking O'Reilly is one of my faves
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
You're right wally, I just read this morning that Bill O has had the #1 rated syndicated news talk show for 100 straight months. I don't know who is watching, but someone is.
I like Keith Olberman on MSNBC, although he is as far left as Bill O is far right..he's just not as obnoxious.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
brings more attention to bills shows, that’s why his how is the number one cable news show for 100 months straight.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-03-30:
You're right, wally. Meghan McCain was taking potshots at Ann Coulter (who for once, didn't even respond) and Laura Ingram smacked her for it.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
just goes to show you that BS sells
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I think ann coulter already oudid herself by calling john Edwards the F word.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
The one thing that really pisses me off about Olbermann is that he's always factually correct. I don't much care for it when liberal's play the 'Truth' card.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
LOL!!! I agree crabman..How can he get away with reporting the truth?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Olberman is just a Disgruntled fox employee.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
yeah he is....

Wally,what's your take on Rachel Madow?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I cant stand her. shes the ann coulter of msnbc for me
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
TW, you remember KO when he did sports in LA? He was always right about his sports facts too.

Rachel Madow needs a new hair style. Bet she could be pretty good looking with a new doo.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
sports are his thing,it was weird tuning into his msnbc show to hear him talk about politics and junk..

Wally,you cant be serious? Rachel Madow is nothing like Ann Coulter.She is smart,and considerate..Ann is Ann
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
meh I give another year or so till msnbc cans her.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
why do you say that Wally? She does a great job
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
she’s boring though, I can only watch her for 5 minutes then I switch the channel.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
she reminds me of the guy from "the whole nine yards" not Bruce Willis,but the dorky dude.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Give patrick buchanan, his own show I love that guy
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I loved his show with bill press
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
why doesn't Colmes(sp) have a show yet? I guess theres no life after Mannity?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
why did he ever leave. I'm going to lobby fox news to make ann seans new co host
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
You gotta admire Pat Buchanan. A former Nixon aid who never waivers on his beliefs. Heck, the man is so staunch in his ideology that even today he argues that the US shouldn't have got involved in WWII. Now that's some rock solid core beliefs I tell ya what.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
TW, good question...
Posted by old fart on 2009-03-30:
Ann Coulter is a perennial "change-of- lifer".... can you imagine being married to that beetch..?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I gotta agree, OF.
I'd rather put up with Nancy Grace's glares and being interrupting by her than be with Ann.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I have one way of shutting her up,but I cant say here..lol
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Someone must like ann or else she wouldn’t sell millions of books and be on the new York times best seller list. Controversy sells makes people millionaires. shes good at what she does.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
So's the Octomom wally.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
TW, "the checks in the mail"....
Posted by old fart on 2009-03-30:
ZZ... Nancy Grace and Ann Coulter would make a heck of a same sex couple wouldn't they..?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Ann's sales have been declining.

Hate sells...but whos buying?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Yeah OF, but who would play the role of the dominate one?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
OF, what are you trying to do to me man, I am eating my lunch!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
she has a huge conservative following up there with Rush, she will still sell books.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Rush = Vicodin
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I'm not sure Ann Coulter is even female. I mean come on check out the adam's apple (s)he's sporting.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
she reminds me of my Aunt,except my Aunt is a human being
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
LMAO TW. Best one liner this month.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I'd still do her.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Wally, living where you do why not just so a rattlesnake instead? You would probably enjoy it more.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
plus the snake wouldn't nag you for 'doing it wrong' lol!
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-03-30:
OK ya'll..I just had a thought (wow)
I believe the economy crashed when it did because the folks with the money realized that that Hawaiian guy was going to get elected and take it from them. The bible says so, I just can't find it.
ZZ good to see you up and running again.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Jkt, I thought it was because the Chinese and Bill Gates had all our money?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
The Bible has more condemnations of usury (charging interest on money lent) than condemnations of homosexuality. There's far more cases of interest being charged in this country than acts of homosexuality. My question is where's the biblical outrage against the banks? Where's the my3cent's posts condemning advertisements for auto loans, credit cards and payday advances? Eh, I guess it's easier to pick and choose your favorite Bible morality in these troubled times.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Come to think of it...eating certain (non-kosher) foods is also listed as 'abominations before the L-rd'. If an abomination is an abomination...we ought to be legislating against people who eat pig, shellfish, catfish, ostrich, owl, snake, etc. Hmmmm...so many 'abominations' offer so many reasons to hate.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I gave up ostrich, owl and snake for Lent.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-03-30:
It really depends upon which of the scripture "interpretations" you believe in...Torah, Koran, Christian Bible, Catholic....whatever turns your crank.
Ain't it funny that more people have been killed, tortured, and humiliated in the name of a particular religion than anything else in history..and it continues today.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Well, we've hijacked it this far...A rabbi and a priest were sitting on a park bench. The priest pulls a ham sandwich from inside his coat. He offers half to the rabbi. The rabbi accepts and begins to munch on it. The priest is gob-smacked. "You eat ham?" he asks. "Yep", says the rabbi, "You ever have sex?" The priest answers without hesitation, "Beats the hell out of ham sandwiches."
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Nobody's ever been killed or tortured in the name of Family Guy or Pepsi.. Humiliated, perhaps, but not tortured or killed.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
LOL! Crabman.Micheal Jackson came close....the Pepsi commercial BLAZE
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
TW: *LOL*
Jacko yelled out,
"TITO-TITO!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
he he heeeeeee

"quit teasing Jermaine"

lol
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
They have been fighting away in the Holy Land for the last what, 4,000 plus years? All to prove the other guy wrong and claim what they believe to be as theirs? About time to give it a rest and move on. Getting killed or tortured in the name of God is a bit of a Paradox in my book.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Also, jktshff, more people have been tortured or killed by THEIR OWN governments. Typically, those governments either banned firearm ownership or restricted it to only those members of society 'trusted' by the government.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
Exactly right superbowl. It takes TWO willing parties for peace. If only one side beats its swords into plowshares, they will end up plowing for the side that doesn't.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-03-30:
I agree, Doc, but those "governments" did most of that in the name of "god". Not just the Holocaust, or the killings in the communist (though you could count many of those as religious persecution) countries in the mid 20th century, but throughout history. The Sword has been around a lot longer than the gun.
Posted by Principissa on 2009-03-30:
Welp, I own all of the Family Guy box sets plus Stewie Griffin the Untold Story and Blue Harvest, even got a free t-shirt with it, and I hate Pepsi.

Oh and did I mention that both my aunt and uncle and BFF are gay?

And I'm not Christian, looks like I've got nothing going for me so I'm safe to watch the show. Sweet.

So what's it like up there on your pedestal? Looking down at folks like me who surprisingly look JUST LIKE YOU! Safe bet you not leave your house, there are others out there just like me.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
I agree, jkt. The tyrant is quick to justify his position through 'G-d' (the Nazis had "Gott Mit Uns" "God is with us" on their buckles). The phrase (oft attributed to Jesus by Christians or Hillel by Jews) "Do not do to others, that which is hateful to yourself" appears in almost ever world faith. The Wiccans (mislabeled as 'devil worshipers') have the 'three-fold rede'. Religion is not the problem...man is.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-03-30:
the narrow mindedness of man...unwilling to respect another's beliefs
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-03-30:
The right does not have a monopoly on intolerance. The left has an equal share...we see it here daily.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-03-30:
Amen to that, Doc.
Posted by Disaster Worker on 2009-03-30:
104 comments to date....when advertisers purchase air time whether it be for television or radio, unless it's the Superbowl, they typically don't know when their commercials are going to air. So otherwise, some people are gay and others are not; some people are Anglo and others are not...can't we just stop looking for what is "different" among us?
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Taste bad
Posted by Bdnflorida on 12/01/2007
NICEVILLE, FLORIDA -- I bought several diet Pepsi 2 litre bottles. I didn't drink them all at once, a few sat in the pantry for 3 months. Now they are UNDRINKABLE! They taste horrible. I also have some cans which were OK and now are also horrible. I would like PepsiCo to know they have a problem, but there's no way to reach them! None of their sites has a "contact us".

I would like my money back too! There is no email in this data base for PepsiCo.
     
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Posted by spiderman2 on 2007-12-01:
Diet Pepsi is sweetened with artificial sweetner and has a shelf life of about 3 months. The expiration date is printed on the bottle. Your sodas are probably past the expiration date which is why they would taste bad. This it not the fault of Pepsi and I would not recommend buying any diet soda and storing it for months on end.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-01:
It took some digging but I found a consumer hotline number: 1-800-433-2652. You can also send an email to their Consumer Relations Dept or they have a virtual Customer Care Rep. According to Pepsi's website, all of thier sodas have a Best If Used By date stamped on them but they claim that they are still good after the date, but do recommend storing in a cool place.
Posted by killerklown on 2007-12-01:
I know what you mean. I had a can of diet Pepsi that I opened only last Christmas day. I couldn't finish it all then, so I put it in the back of the fridge and took it out just the other day. You guessed it...FLAT!! And it tasted strange for some reason. I TOO would like my money back because obviously Pepsi doesn't know anything about making soda if a can of diet Pepsi in the fridge for only a year after it was opened is undrinkable. This company MUST BE BROUGHT TO ITS KNEES!!!
Posted by Justusryan on 2007-12-01:
Yeah, my year old pepsi sucks too!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-12-01:
Now killer, no one said anything about keeping an open bottle/can and expecting it to stay fresh a year later! lol
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2007-12-01:
It's POP! NOT SODA!!!!!

Give up the Pepsi and start drinking Coke..Coke never goes bad, but then again I don't have it sitting around for very long.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2007-12-01:
Go to the store and buy the two liters and the cans...then take that receipt back with the old bottles and tell them they are out dated...you get your money back, the store sends it back to the Pepsi company as outdated product.
But be sure to tell the store it is outdated so they won't put it back on the self for someone else to get.
Posted by john on 2013-04-28:
i bought some pepsi max it tasted bad i took it back where i got it they give me my money i will never buy that again
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Pepsi can look
Posted by Daine on 04/18/2007
I think that the look of the Pepsi can within the last few years has been awful. The blue can with graphics all over it strays too far away from its roots. I know that recently Pepsi is pushing a promotion to let consumers "design" their own can, and some of the newer can designs I've been drinking from are terrible as well.

I would love to see Pepsi go back to the plain-old white can with the Pepsi logo and blue and red markings. People these days love retro anyway (they are selling "My Little Ponies" and "Strawberry Shortcake" stuff in stores lately).
I would be willing to bet if you surveyed people they would be more likely to buy a can of Pepsi if it had the original look and feel.

Coca-Cola cans have been updated as well, but didn't stray too far from the original design.

Pepsico, get back to your roots!
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
Does what's inside taste the same? I hadn't even noticed the change
Posted by One-Eyed Willie on 2007-04-18:
Pour it into a cup and drink it.
Posted by Pomona Guy on 2007-04-18:
Soda pop is soda pop. Save some money and buy a no name brand cola.
Posted by One-Eyed Willie on 2007-04-18:
I disagree with you there Pomona. Store brand/no name sodas usually taste terrible. Sometimes the lemon-lime type is okay, but their colas have no flavor. Packaging is one thing, but flavor is everything.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
Yeah, I'm not getting this.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
So what exactly is this Pepsi, is it some kind of soda or what?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
The Pepsi-Cola drink contains basic ingredients found in most other similar drinks including carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, colorings, phosphoric acid, caffeine, citric acid and natural flavors.
The can I have is different but the pop tastes the same! How did they do that?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
Pepsi is too sweet,I'm a Coke kinda guy myself.The can complaint is just absurd
Posted by DORCAS on 2007-04-18:
I appriciate most of the items I buy on a regular basis to stay with somewhat the same packaging. When I go down an isle with 100 different kinds of soda, cereal etc. I want to be able to find what I'm looking for in the least amount of time. I don't like too many changes too often for that reason alone. And as far as store brand vs name brand, most offer the cheap taste to go along with the cheap price. Not all but most. You get what you pay for.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
Safeway brand pop is the best except for their Cola. Am I the only person in the world that liked the short lived "New Coke?"
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
You are probably wrong, people buy pepsi because of the taste. If they like it they will buy it no matter what the can looks like. You must be younger than eight to only drink something based on the can it comes in.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
ZZ yes i belive you are the only 1 that liked that garbage
Posted by One-Eyed Willie on 2007-04-18:
What were your feelings on Pepsi Clear? I imagine that radical image change must have caused your heart to stop. The 80s cola wars were difficult. We survived, but we shall not forget. At least Tab is back now.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
Numbers, I thought that it was better than Pepsi!
*LOL* Ghostbuster, don't you buy cereal based on which one has a prize in it?

"What were your feelings on Pepsi Clear?" "I imagine that radical image change must have caused your heart to stop". *spewing Pepsi Free onto my monitor* Nice, One!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
It's POP, people....jeeeeze....
Posted by Justusryan on 2007-04-18:
I hated when they........ well never mind, I don't think of POP that much.
Posted by Demonoid Phenomenon on 2007-04-18:
First, it's just a dang can.

And I miss Crystal Pepsi! I wish it back again! I wish it back again!
Posted by ComradeKarl on 2007-04-18:
Yeah...going to have to disagree with you there Willie.

Look > Taste.

Why else do you think people where dress suits to work, because they taste better? No! People dress well because it looks nice and we all know that looks mean everything. Perhaps it would be in Pepsi's best interest to divert all of it's funds from developing soda to progression of new can designs.
Posted by One-Eyed Willie on 2007-04-25:
Next time I'm looking to drink a suit, I'll let you know Comrade
Posted by imjustasteph on 2007-05-01:
One-Eyed, I have to laugh at that last comment....but I do agree with comrade at least a little.

Presentation isn't everything, but it is something. Companies do try to make their packaging visually appealing, and it does make a difference in sales when they fail. That said....PepsiCo isn't going to go broke because of a new can design. They are far too well-known, and their product too well-liked (or too many people addicted?) for that to happen.

But don't worry, they'll probably change it again next year.

(Anybody not want one of those new ugly $20 bills?)
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Flat pepsi again!!!!!!
Posted by Bigtank on 08/07/2006
This is the third time in as many months I bought (hoping to enjoy I might add) a flat bottle of pepsi cola. I am about to start drinking something else . I could not even send a complaint to the company. THIS IS MY HARD EARNED MONEY!!!!!!!
     
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Posted by DebtorBasher on 2006-08-08:
Drop the Poopsie and have a Coke...and a smile!
Posted by Sparticus on 2006-08-08:
Don't resort to Coke! (if you can't tell I'm a Pepsi guy) Did you get the bottles all at the same location or vending machine? Perhaps they are being stored improperly at that location? I've never had a bottle go flat before I opened it in my lifetime of drinking Pepsi. There has to be something going on at the location where you buy the drinks?
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-08-08:
Drink Dr.Pepper and you will be miss understood
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2006-08-08:
Sparticus: You said you never had a bottle of Pepsi go flat before you opened it...but that's because you are used to the taste of Pepsi which, compared to Coke ALWAYS taste flat...I don't know how a person can tell when a Pepsi goes flat when that is it's natual taste. I need that fizz on my tongue...and Pepsi just doesn't have that kick I need. I have noticed that pop seems to go flat alot sooner in the 2liter bottles...I'm guessing it's because once some is taken from it, the air is in the bottle, the bigger the bottle, the more air there is in it...I use those fizz type caps on mine, it pumps the air out of the bottles...but nothing beats the old glass pop bottles!
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-08-08:
DB good morning. But where do you fined the good old glass pop bottles anymore?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2006-08-08:
We Don't... :(
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-08-08:
I'm guessing you're talking about a 2-liter bottle? Likely it's out-of-date. Personally, I don't resort to 2-liter bottles, as even when they're new, they don't hold their fizz long. Just don't buy from that store anymore, likely they're not rotating their stock or sell enough volume to turn-over their current stock. (tr).
Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2006-08-08:
Dr Pepper...eeeeewwwwwwwww!!! (shivers) To sweet for me.
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-08-08:
I'm thinking that the bottles are out of date as well. They will lose their CARBONATION after a while. At one time we had a member on here that prefered flat Mountain Dew...For shizzle my fizzle!
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-08-09:
That might have gone well with raw chicken wings..........doh!
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