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Are you against cigarettes?
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Are you one of those people who whole-heartedly stands against cigarettes? Are one of those people who stood up and cheered when the courts ordered companies such as Phillip Morris to pay billions of dollars to people with cancer and their families? Do you truly believe that doing away with cigarettes altogether will allow people to live longer? If so, please read the following. Aside from the obvious sarcasm associated with this site, I’m wondering how many people can actually justify being against cigarettes.

First off, the courts came up with the hilarious statement that before “warnings” were put on packs of cigarettes, the public had no way of knowing they were harmful. People must be pretty stupid creatures. After all, I think I’d be questioning something that has to be stuck in my mouth and fire put to the end of it and smoke being sucked into my lungs as to whether it is harmful to me. I believe from that alone a clue would be given to me and some lawyer didn’t have to twist the truth to get me to understand it. If a person puts something into their body to alter their body (physically, mentally, whatever) and that person does have a disease or a sickness (in other words, doing it for “pleasure”), that substance is going to harm them. I believe I was born with this knowledge.

Next, people who don’t smoke have every right to protest and claim they don’t want it around them. I’ve heard a lot of people say they don’t want themselves or their children exposed to cigarette smoke especially in restaurants. I think by banning smoking in all “family” type restaurants (those that do not serve alcohol), might be a step in the right direction. Smoking should be allowed in all restaurants that serve alcohol. After all, any place that serves alcohol cannot be construed as a “family” environment.

Now, how many people who actually refuse to be around cigarette smoke have done the following:
1. Absolutely refused to drive a vehicle because the pollutants from the vehicles are just as, if not more, poisonous than second hand cigarette smoke. After all, if everyone wants clean air, wouldn’t this be an obvious way to get it?
2. Openly protested a factory or industrial plant within 10 miles from their home. If lawyers are going after automakers and factory / industrial plant owners, the media has failed to report it (aside from the reports where a factory is forced to clean up waters such as rivers, etc.).

The sad truth is, people who don’t smoke cigarettes entertain some type of eternal life fantasy that they will be vibrant, fun loving, healthy, sex maniacs at age 96. The media has failed to get that story aired as well. I just want to see how many people will actually give an intelligent reply to this post…and perhaps give a valid reply to the 2 statements above. I’ll let everyone decide for themselves if a smoker posted this…
     
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Anonymous on 12/03/2003:
Your arguments to not hold merit. The comparison to a car is not valid, because a car is used for practicle transportation, not a "bad habit". Same holds true for your second argument about industrial plants. Most of them make products aimed at making your life easier, maybe even prolonging your life in the process. They are not there to kill you.
Anonymous on 12/03/2003:
But the point is, people don't "have" to drive. They do it from choice just as smoking cigarettes is a choice...and both can kill you. Lawyers sueing tobacco companies and people who take a stand against smoking are people who have chosen not to smoke, thus forcing their beliefs on everyone who does. So, really, there is no difference in standing on a street corner and inhaling toxic fumes from transportation vehicles and sitting beside a smoker in a restaurant. At least restaurants offer a place that is non smoking (which many people still complain about). I'd like to find a city that offers clean air on their streets..........of course we'll never hear of that. If a non smoker drives a car they would never imagine giving up their car because that would take away one of their freedoms. Just like smokers who don't see anything wrong with with smoking over cocktails in a restaurant bar. There's 2 sides to every story........
Anonymous on 12/03/2003:
But driving a car in today's society is a must. Not doing so is not only impracticle, it's nearly impossible. Smoking on the other hand, is just a bad habit. And unlike driving, smoking is becoming harder to do and get away with it.
Anonymous on 12/04/2003:
Sorry, driving a car is not a "must" in today's society. A bicycle will get you around a town just like a car will........albeit a little slower. YOUR argument does not hold up. If an employee of of any company who "supports" the anti smoking propaganda of most companies this day and age told that company they were only going to ride a bike as transportation and the company said it was "unacceptable".......who is the hypocrite? Or could it be that "companies" follow what is force fed to them by the media?
Anonymous on 12/04/2003:
Point not well taken. I live 20-miles from work because I can't afford to live in "the city". I also have to dress professional and can't come in sweaty and dirty so a three hour bike ride each way is ridiculous.
Anonymous on 12/04/2003:
The only point I'm trying to make is people who openly complain about cigarette smoke being dangerous to them should also openly complain about autos and factories. Try to look at it from a smoker's point of view. You don't want anyone telling you you can't drive just as smokers don't want epople telling them they can't smoke. Both are perfectly legal. I would venture to say drunk drivers kill more people than cancer from second hand smoke does.........you never hear of the media jumping on a band wagon to ban alcohol.
Anonymous on 12/04/2003:
Actually the media and law enforcement officials have talked about and in fact banned alcohol for a period of time. But it didn't work, so they changed to limiting it's distribution instead. This is what they are doing now to cigarettes. You can't drink in most places today, you have to be at least 21, you can't drive after drinking, etc. Now they are on the cigarette crusade for the same reasons -- public safety.
Anonymous on 12/05/2003:
Actually, there was a city in NC that tried to ban all smoking in every public building including restaurants. 80% of the restaurants decided to not renew their liquor licenses because of the decline of business. That law was changed so quick people didn't know what hit them. I personally know people who would by cigarettes if they were $10.00 a pack.......then you'd have people saying their kids were having to do without because of the parents smoking habit. I'd say the pendulum will swing the other way in a few years and cigartette prices will decrease.
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cUSTOMER sERVICE
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PHONE, CALIFORNIA -- I am extremely disappointed with the horrible quality of your employees in customer care. I called again today1/25/02 to share my discontent withthere not being a catalog available to Benson and Hedges smokers. I have smoked these cigarettes for 9 years and have many labels saved and would like to turn them in. Since there is no catalog I requested that they send me a different one for one of your other brands and you could honor my labels. 'JOAN' said no we do not have a catalog. When I presented hr with this very easy solution, she said OK she'll send me a catalog and which one did I want. I wanted to clarify so I asked if she was going to make sure that they would be honored and her response was 'No, but if you want to send them in - Go ahead. I have been in the customer service industry for most of my life and am about finding solutions that keep customers happy - clearly Joan has no concept of this at all. I then asked to speak to her supervisor and he was just as disappointing. 'JAMIE' said that I should hold on to my labels and maybe one day there will be a catalog. I explained to him that my frustration was because that I received a catalog and sadly, called 2 days late to trade for the objects. I was informed then by someone that another catalog would be out soon and just to hold on to the stubs. That was more than a year ago. I called about 6-8 weeks ago and the customer service person that I spoke to said that she would try to get me catalog or information as to when the catalogs would be out or to see if she would be able to send a different catalog and honor the labels. She said that she would do so, took my information, and said that minimally I would receive a letter in response to my request and coupons. That, of course, never happened either. Frankly, I am sure that I could go out and buy the various give aways and I am sure they would be relatively inexpensive. However, it is the principle of this issue that bothers me - why do some of your customers - those who smoke Marlboro for example, deserve rewards, whereas I, a loyal B&H smoker do not? Quite frankly, with the cost of cigarettes now due to taxes, regulations on smoking in public, and constant negative publicity about smoking I am shocked that you wouldn't want to hold on to my business and send out all kinds of prizes and rewards. Perhaps you feel that since I am addicted to your product, there is no need. Well, I have switched to another brand that I made sure has no affiliation with Philip Morris because I feel so strongly about this issue. In addition, I am one of the leaders for a pro-smoking group that has members all over California. We focus mainly on inalienable rights, scientific proof regarding second hand smoke, and the impact the tobacco industry has on the economy. I have yet to shaer my situation with your company because that we haven't had a meeting since October. However I have every intention of doing so in Las Vegas in February when we meet to discuss the above mentioned issues. Smoker's rights is something I personally choose to believe in and I have always felt that Philip Morris had a consistent, quality product until now. You need to recognize that everyone who works for represents your company - so when the people you have in customer care are rude, have no follow through, and as unaccommodating as possible they represent your attitude toward customers. You hire them, you have systems in place, and they feel it is OK to behave this way with no repercussions. I just wanted to give you the opportunity to correct this problem and to change your policies on service expectations.

At the very least I would like a response from your company regarding this incident. Thank you for your time.
     
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Anonymous on 01/25/2002:
I think the coupons might be taken by some hospitals for lung cancer treatment fees. Call around and check it out.
Anonymous on 01/28/2002:
You have to much time on your hands. Get a life. Catalogs are incentives to help promote sales of a product. A company has the right to discontinue promotions when they feel it is no longer necessary.
I also think your statemnt about demanding scientific proof of the dangers of secoind hand smoke is silly. I have breen smoking for over 15 years now and I know smoking is unhealthy. I am always onsiderate of the people around me when I smoke and I would never subject someone to unwanted 2nd hand smoke. Y0ou are the kind of person who gives smokers a bad name.
Anonymous on 01/28/2002:
Hmmm, you are happy trading 15 years of your life for nothing but the wrappers those death sticks came in, huh? okay. I say let her have her Benson and Hedges painter's cap already. It's the little things.
Anonymous on 02/10/2002:
Soon hospitals will take McDonalds wrappers to help pay for the cost of those who refuse to stop stuffing their face and call it a "diease" Yeah, it's called stop stuffing your fat face! Just remember that after smokers they are coming for the obese and then I will be the one laughing and writing complaints about having to see your hideous fat while I'm trying to eat my sensable dinner.
Anonymous on 05/01/2002:
What is "diease?"
batzion7 on 05/13/2006:
WARNING: There is no safe tobacco product. The use of any tobacco product can cause cancer and other adverse health effects. This includes all forms of tobacco including cigarettes, cigars, pipes, and spit tobacco; mentholated, "low-tar," "naturally grown," or "additive free."

About Us
The Office on Smoking and Health (OSH) is a division within the National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion (NCCDPHP), which is one of the centers within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Tobacco use remains the leading preventable cause of death in the United States, causing nearly 440,000 deaths each year and resulting in an annual cost of more than $75 billion in direct medical costs.

Nationally, smoking results in more than 5.5 million years of potential life lost each year.

The majority of adult smokers started smoking by the age of 18. Every day, an estimated 3,900 young people under the age of 18 try their first cigarette.

More than 6.4 million children living today will die prematurely because of a decision they will make as adolescents — the decision to smoke cigarettes.

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Excellent Response to complaint
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CALIFORNIA -- I had received a defective cigarette in a package of B&H Ultra Light 100's. I wrote to Phillip Morris via their website. Every correspondence received a very timely response, and upon submission of a copy of my drivers license and completion of their required form, I received 3 free pack coupons as promised. I am very pleased with their customer service department!
     
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Anonymous on 04/17/2002:
Well aren't you special!
Anonymous on 04/19/2002:
I think this is a great letter and a job well done by Phillip Morris Corp.
Anonymous on 04/19/2002:
I think Bill is an idiot!
Anonymous on 04/19/2002:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Anonymous on 04/19/2002:
Hey, I'm so glad that you got your free coupons to pollute the air around us. One cigarette was defective-boo hoo. Get a life. All you smokers are the same.....
Anonymous on 04/22/2002:
Bill needs to learn how to spell!
Anonymous on 04/22/2002:
Which word did I misspell?
Anonymous on 04/22/2002:
"their" is spelled "their" so THERE
Anonymous on 12/02/2003:
To the above person complaining about cigarette smoke, please do this test: Totally close off a room such as a garage. You and a smoker enter the room and allow the smoker to have one full cigarette in your presence. You can stand as far away from the smoker as you want. Write down how your body reacts to it. Next, let the smoker exit the room and pull a car into the room. Seal the room again and start the car thus standing with a running car in a sealed room the exact time it takles to smoke 1 cigarette (roughly 8 minutes). What do you feel safer doing? Bet you wouldn't be willing to give up your car although it's more of a deadly pollutant than cigarettes ever will be. Non smokers die everyday. Sleep tight.
batzion7 on 05/13/2006:
About Us
The Office on Smoking and Health (OSH) is a division within the National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion (NCCDPHP), which is one of the centers within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Tobacco use remains the leading preventable cause of death in the United States, causing nearly 440,000 deaths each year and resulting in an annual cost of more than $75 billion in direct medical costs.

Nationally, smoking results in more than 5.5 million years of potential life lost each year.

The majority of adult smokers started smoking by the age of 18. Every day, an estimated 3,900 young people under the age of 18 try their first cigarette.

More than 6.4 million children living today will die prematurely because of a decision they will make as adolescents — the decision to smoke cigarettes.

Yes sir reeeee! Hoo ray for the murders!
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