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Posted by Badger64 on 12/01/2007
MOSINEE, WISCONSIN -- I own a Saturn 1994 SW2, from the time I bought the car , used, it has lost oil, slowly, but does lose enough that have to continually add. I have a close friend that owns a 1999 Saturn SL2 that has the same problem but a lot worse than mine, we have not detected a leak or that its burning it, I would say that like I read in another review that they produced a defective head.

Also, mine as is with hers the power windows now lock up while opening or closing. I have not been very impressed by this car, the engines have some zip to them but the oil loss is annoying.
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Posted by killerklown on 2007-12-02:
My '94 SL2 leaks a bit of oil, but a thirteen year old car with 250k miles on it is more than likely going to start exhibiting problems...
Posted by runaway on 2007-12-02:
I had a '94 for 8 years; loved that car, and never had an issue with it the entire time.
Posted by Augustus2099 on 2010-12-22:
My 99 SL2 uses oil like there is no tomorrow. ALL Saturns have this problem.
Posted by houston jm on 2013-06-17:
I have a 2001saturn sl2 1.9 dohc bought cherry from dealer. Kept up with sevice maint. 4 , 5 year warranty. Car has never let me down.automatic over drive trans. I drive 15 miles one way to work on 45 south for past five years at 75, 80 mile an hour and hitting passing gear at that speed.never had aproblem I gas up at chevron or shell only.lm at 127380miles the only thing that worry me is should I get timeing.am I on borrowed time?
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If it can go wrong it will
Posted by Geisergirl on 05/23/2007
KANSAS -- Well, lets see where to start. I have the last year of the SC series and now I know why they stopped making it. After the car was 3.5 years old, it got a vaccuum leak and I had to spend $600 dollars to replace the intake gasket (parts were only $80). Just two weeks ago the power locks went out (the key fobs went out about two years ago and new batteries didn't help) so now we get to manually lock and unlock the doors. The side mirrors also went out and I'm trying to figure out how to get the dome light cover off to change the bulb to see if that's related. Everything on the car already rattles. The seatbelt locks when I'm excelerating onto the highway (and going over RR tracks). Also, it blocks the back window so I can't see out it when changing lanes (hello blind spot). Well, I'm sure there is more, but can't think of it right now. With all of these problems and I got a five year loan so its not even paid off yet!!! I will never own another Saturn again!!!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on 2007-05-23:
Don't feel to bad about the door locks. Only one of five still works on my Ford truck.
Posted by runaway on 2007-05-23:
If you want to know how well made a vehicle is, look at the warranty; they use statistical averages to find out when the problems are usually going to begin, and end the warranty before that point. Example; if they warranty the drive train for 75,000 miles, then 98%+ of vehicles will go that long without issues- after that point, who knows. Electrical issues are not covered that long, because of the multitude of problems that can occur.
You are at the point where you need to ask around and find a good mechanic with decent prices (DON'T just go for the cheapest!) and start fixing the issues. It's a fact of life with any vehicle that problems will crop up as they age, and these days, anything over 3-4 years is considered an older vehicle.
Posted by geisergirl on 2007-05-29:
I know, I was just hoping that my car would start these after I paid it off. lol And with the warranty, yep, it their 3 year 39000 mile warranty from 2002. Not to mention, I should have known not to get the vehicle they were not going to make anymore.
Posted by fleecedbygalpinsaturn on 2007-09-04:
Saturn does not stand behind their cars-sell it and buy something besides a GM.
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Another Saturn Sob Story...
Posted by Pissed Pat on 05/09/2007
PORTSMOUTH, NEW HAMPSHIRE -- Watch out for L300 series, I found out hard way, bougth one new, lots of electrical problems, flickering headlights, voltage issues, buzzing noise, radio turns off and on, heater turns off and on. Saturn has a corporate bulletin issued in 9/14/04 that was not disclosed to me before purchase that states this is a "normal operating characteristic" and no service is required! Lost a lemon law hearing! Looking for class action participants-anyone out there with similar issues?
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Posted by ejack053824 on 2007-05-10:
Here's my advice...Don't buy Saturn's!! They are pieces of shyt!
Posted by grandma005 on 2007-05-10:
That is the first thing that you said that I agree with.
Posted by poppapia on 2007-05-10:
ejack, your points are usually well taken, but lay off of the cursing, it makes it sound like you are extremely immature.
Posted by Ponie on 2007-05-10:
In addition to ejack being extremely immature, he seems to have a perpetual 50 pound chip on his shoulder. An attempt at being Macho Man?
Posted by ejack053824 on 2007-05-10:
Immature? Bite me! How's that for immaturity!? Course I'm a Macho Man...I fly combat fighters in the Air Force. All of us are hot shot macho man jocks. You didn't know that? LOL!!
Posted by wolfn on 2007-07-09:
I bought a 2003 Saturn L300 with 62,000 miles on it, in just 2 weeks of owning it on a road trip I experienced a complete power outage and this was at night while in a 65 mile an hour hwy curve.
My 12 year old son and I was driving from CA to OR, before leaving CA a warning indicator came on in the dash (car with wrench symbol), well I called Saturn from my cell they assured me it was ok to drive the 800 miles back home to OR. Well the stereo was on (AC may have been on) all the lights were on, headlamps, dash etc. Going along the hwy it was dark with no moonlight and the road started into a curve and at 65 miles an hour all of a sudden!! "POP" a loud pop came from the stereo and all the power went off!! Lights out! I’m not sure if the engine went off or I let off the gas, we were coasting into a curve in the road and couldn't see anything. In just seconds (seemed longer) the power came back on. Scared the sh_t out of us, we thought a UFO was scanning us or something LOL
Anyway the car has a 3month 3000 mile warranty on it and I called Saturn service and they will look at it tomorrow. After hearing all theses bad complaints I sure hope I didn't buy a money pit/piece of cr_p!!
Posted by JennStrez on 2007-09-02:
November 2003 I bought a 2003 Saturn L300 with the V6. I loved the car but hated the problems...before it left the lot the lights on the dash board went out! In the first 500 miles it was at the dealer 3 times for the lights. When I was explaining the problem to the service manager, I told him that I thought there was a problem with the alternator ...headlights & dashlights blinked constantly...especially when using the defrost or AC. He told me in so many words that I did not know what I was talking about that men usually bring cars in for service. I immediately reported him to Saturn Corporation. This was the dealer in Jenkintown, PA.

Faulkner Dealer in Trevose, PA handed me the "Normal Operation" publication about the headlights blinking. At the time they gave it to me, it just came out from the corporate office....

At about 20k miles, the brake booster failed. It was a real treat stopping the car at 50 MPH approaching the intersection and the car was not stopping...I could have killed my family or someone else. The dealer in Doylestown, PA would not have the car towed to them. They told me to drive it in.

I had the silver metallic color...the roof had pieces that peeled. They had to repaint them. At first they tried to say I was using a scrub brush to wash my car... I had a good time with the service manager on that. (Saturn of Doylestown, PA)
the car visited the dealer 2 times for the brake booster...they forgot to put the firewall back in the car after they put the new booster in. That was a real treat to feel the heat of the motor on my feet, and they would not tow the car (Saturn of Doylestown, PA).

I loved the car, not the problems.
I paid several times for rental cars, I was only given a rental 3 times, the other times I paid. Typically i had to get a bit pushy with them to get the rentals.

After the brake booster, I was fed up. The 3 local dealers in my area all had seen the car, and all three were not capable of fixing the problems.
I called 1-800-Lemon-Law... I talked to an attorney, and filed a Lemon Law Suite against Saturn.

About 6 months after I filed my suit the check engine light came on in the car...I traded it in. The lights were still blinking...

My day in court was around June of 2006 (about 1 year after we filed suit)the day before Saturn settled out of court. No where near the equity I lost to trade in the car (with a car fax report as long as 2 arms long, nobody would give me a decient trade)...
How I won my suit was the documentation I kept. I had all receipts for repairs and maintenance. They questioned whether I maintained the car (like an oil change makes lights flicker, window motors to go real slow, and a brake booster to fail)...anyways....I had all my documentation, including for all the rental cars I paid for.

Previously I always owned all General Motor vehicles...I went and bought a Suzuki. Best choice I could have ever made. To this day, I have only had to oil change, rotate tires, and brakes... I love my Suzuki. The dealer close to my home does not try to pull quick ones for more money.
Worst part is my Mother-In-Law had a 2003 Saturn L300 and hers starting having major mechanical problems at 70k miles. I traded mine in at about 26k miles, owned it less then 2 years. Never again. Saturn lost my business forever. Lawsuit Settlement or not, I lost confidence in GM.

Posted by fleecedbygalpinsaturn on 2007-09-04:
I feel for you- they will get you any way they can. Steer clear of the service department and take to a reputable mechanic instead.
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Posted by Neko on 05/08/2007
MADISON, WISCONSIN -- I went to Saturn of Madison yesterday because an indicator light on my dashboard was intermittently blinking. I mistakenly thought it was the battery light, so that's what I told them and they said they'd check out the electrical system. Later they told me that they never saw the light come on but they tested the alternator, and it took a long time, but after testing it for awhile, they found that my alternator was at only 70% power. They replaced the alternator (for $385 including labor), I drove off and the indicator light immediately came back on.

I returned immediately to the dealership, and they asked me to come back the next morning. The next day they found the blinking light, and said that it was actually the coolant light. They topped off my coolant and said that it was fine now and the light was off.

I asked if I could get my old alternator put back in, but they said that it was bad anyway, so they recommended that I keep it. I asked them to put the old one back in again, and they said that they couldn't refund the labor (about $200). I told them to leave in the new alternator and give me back the old one. They charged me $30 to keep my old part, but I paid it anyway.

I made a few calls and quickly found a nearby company that does nothing but repair and rebuild generators, drove straight over there, and had my old alternator tested. They were very kind and didn't charge me for the test. There was nothing wrong with my old alternator!

I went straight back to the Saturn dealership and told them about the test and they quickly agreed to put the old alternator back in the car and give me a full refund.

The refund will be by check even though I paid by credit card and it will take two weeks. I don’t know if I’ll actually get the money or not, but in any case, I know that they would have done nothing if I hadn’t gone right away to have the old part tested. Replacing a car part that isn’t broken is not something I would expect from a reputable car dealership.


Saturn did refund my money right away, and after I complained to the head office I received a certificate for 4 free oil changes. The only problem with that is that I have to go back to that same dealership to have my oil changed. They always tell me that I need hundreds of dollars worth of things done to it, even things that I've just had done elsewhere. Oh well. Three more oil changes to go and I'll never have to walk in there again.
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Posted by imjustasteph on 2007-05-08:
Oh, you can expect unbroken parts to be replaced at ANY car dealership/repair place. They are notorious for that...the only way to get around it is to find a mechanic (not a mechanic shop, a mechanic, a single individual person, who may or may not work for a large company, but an individual who you come to know by name) that you feel you cn trust.
Posted by ejack053824 on 2007-05-08:
I would have demanded those incompetent morons to refund me right then and there. Since it was by credit card, the cashier would have marched her fat arse right back to the credit card machine and issue me a credit or she would dig into the petty cash and give me the money. No frigin way would I wait two weeks!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-05-08:
Good thinking on your part to go have the alternator tested! I'm sure they don't expect customers to think of things like that and just expect us to believe what we are told. How unfortunate though, I hope you also got the $30 back that they made you pay to get the original back. I hope you also told them that you were reporting their deceptive practices.
Posted by LennyGuy on 2007-05-09:
I had to jump-start my car one morrning and got it to a repair shop. They told me the alternator was bad and it would be around $300. So I took it to another shop and they tested it and said it was fine. That has been over a year ago without another problem. We, the gullible consumers, belive what they say - I am glad you took the time to do more leg work than just giving the thieves money. The auto repair shops really don't care what consumers think so they keep using the same tactics over and over and over....
Posted by yoke on 2007-05-09:
We just had my hubands truck at the dodge dealer since it kept stalling and the ABS light kept coming on. 2 of the things were under warranty but the switch was not. They wanted $251 to replace the switch. I called a friend who owns a repair shop and asked what it would cost to have it repaired with him. He said the part was $20 and the labor would be about $45 (1/2 hour worth of work). So that would be $65. We told the dealership not to replace the switch and that we would have a friend do it. What my husband and I think they were trying to do is charge labor for the entire job (even though 99% was under warranty). Come to find out the switch was under warranty after all.
Posted by fleecedbygalpinsaturn on 2007-09-04:
Saturn is not trustworthy. Sell your car and buy something other than GM. It's a shame too, used to be a really good car company.
Posted by RCawdor57 on 2007-11-18:
I have owned Saturns since 1993 and think they are very worthy vehicles. Over the years Saturn has become GM and now for the most part are just another piece of the "RipOff Network" that most of us have to deal with. Until last year I had excellent service with MOST Saturn dealerships until I had a "Service" light come on intermittently. I took my 2002 Vue to Saturn of Brandon (Florida) and they connected the OBD II tester to the test plug and soon told me the Oxygen sensor was defective. When asked what it cost to replace I was told a whopping $300. Right. I told them I would come back later and instead decided to buy my own OBDII tester and checked it myself. Uh, not an Oxygen sensor problem at all. Any guesses? It was a low brake fluid level which would cause the "Service" light to come on when I first put the car in motion or when braking or turning. I put in an ounce or two of brake fluid and Voila! No more "Service" light. I also checked what the internal O2 sensor cost and was amazed that the guts to it were about $28 or the entire body and guts was about $120 from Advance Auto Parts. I then decided to find the sensor and see how difficult it would be to replace. Found it (mine has only one but later models have two sensors) and unscrewed it easily and checked it. I cleaned it up a bit with carburetor cleaner and reinstalled it. That was over a year ago and about 30,000 miles. No problems of any type now. Are service shops dishonest? I would say that 99% are thieves and should be locked up.
Posted by LeeSee on 2007-11-18:
I've had 3 Saturns so far. The first 2 were OK. Not as great as my old Honda, but passable. My ION on the other is is a total piece of crud. What a money pit. I'm just waiting for the day I can dump it and grab something better.

I'll NEVER buy another one.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-11-18:
Buy a Toyota.
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Ordered Car Under Customer's Name, Selling to Someone Else.
Posted by NotHappyCustomer2006 on 12/13/2006
ORLANDO, FLORIDA -- Early October 2006 This Dealer actually called my client to say they could order the rare car she was looking for. After several calls and messages the car was "ordered" and a print out showing my clients information was then given to her. She was given an MSRP much lower than 3 months later this car would go for. After a couple of weeks of ok communication the updates and phone messages went unanswered. After much research on this rare auto, the 2007 Sky, it is our understanding that many dealers can NOT just order this car for their dealership but must order it for a customer.

The price for said auto has gone up many times since my client was given the order, yet she was promised that her price would not increase because the Dealer's would not.

The auto was to be produced on 12/4, during the week before and there after there was little to none communication by this dealer to my client, although she had placed calls to find out an update on said auto.

11/27/06 Out of no where and what we suspect are lies from my clients Sales person to save face the GM then called and extremely unprofessionally called my client ranting and raving. Stating he would not sale her this car and she was not "Saturn Material".

My client called Corporate on this date to where they were able to speak to this person & he agreed he would sell my client this auto but she should take delivery at another location.

12/4/06 2:47pm Myclient called the Corporate headquarters of Saturn to find out to whom at the dealership she would need to speak with to get her updates. At this time Corporate did speak with John and he did state that he would be the point of contact and the auto would still be hers.

12/12/06 Today my client called John to find out this week's update as this is normally done when ordering this auto, and he stated he would not sell her this auto and became very aggressive with her.

We contend that this dealership used my client's good name by means to order this auto so that they will be able to sell this auto at a much higher mark up by thousands. That the dealership to include John and David have discriminated against my client for being an educated female. That John became aggressive towards my client because she knew inside information that would hurt his career and that of this dealership.

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Posted by Anonymous on 2006-12-13:
Did she give a deposit when she ordered the car?
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-12-13:
Two different dealers getting upset at the same "client" after being guaranteed a sale???? I am starting to wonder what role your "client" had in all this??? P.S. you may want to check out the Pontiac Solstice, it is the same car
Posted by Shakra on 2006-12-13:
I don't see where you mentioned any contract. No contract, no binding agreement.
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-12-13:
I must agree wit DD and Shakra something sceems funny here?
Posted by *Brenda* on 2006-12-13:
The saturn dealership near me has a sky. What's so rare about them? I saw one the other day too. They're cute. And what's with all this "my client" stuff? What are you too her?
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Saturn cars are horrible - DO NOT BUY
Posted by Rodijo on 06/06/2006
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA -- I am writing this after watching my daughter go through years of ridiculous and costly repairs on her what was once new Saturn. She got caught up in the "customer service" promise like so many have before and since her. Ha! She has had nothing but headaches with that car. It stalls out when she turns corners if the gas tank is 1/4 full. It doesn't start. It stalls at stop lights. Saturn can't find anything wrong with it. But they keep "fixing" things...like talking her into major tune ups when it's not even time for them. This girl is anal about getting her car serviced on time (even before time). She has NEVER missed an oil change or scheduled service. Saturn cars are crap. The car is in the dealership right now because it stalled and she had to push it to the side of the road. Called her with a $500 estimate to fix a few things. What recourse does she have??? NEVER EVER BUY ANOTHER SATURN EVER. I've had my Honda for 4 years...no problem EVER.
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Posted by Anonymous on 2006-06-06:
File a bbb complaint http://www.labbb.org (Saturn of HB has 1 unanswered problem). That loose wire is probably a loose alternator cable. Again "Auto dealearships are not in the business of repairing cars on selling them" - So find a reliable auto shop and use them, just buy the parts at the dealership and take them to your new auto shop. Get your oils changed at a good indie oil changer.
Good luck
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-06-06:
That should be "Auto dealearship's are not in the business of repairing cars ONLY selling them"
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-06-07:
I concur. (tr)
Posted by Doc J on 2006-06-07:
Very truthful Jay. That backdoor of a dealership always generated more revenue than the front door. I have a friend who is a GM dealer that told me that. A dealer often makes as little as $200 on the sale of a new car. Try getting a minor repair done at a dealer for that amount.
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-06-07:
nice post J
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-06-07:
Rodijo, when you buy an automobile from a dealearship. The majority of them would rather see you and your automobile on the side of the road so you'd buy another they'd rather milk you for every dollar. My argument and I've been through this before, which is why I stand behind my words. 1. How do you know the repair is being done? Having a manual isn't enough. 2. Some won't give you the parts back, oh we need that alternator to rebuild it. 3. Clearly - Don't ever take your new auto back to the dealer. Find a good mechanic (listed in the BBB) and take it there. I've never a problem, with a dealership, because "I don't give them one thin dime of money" for all of the ripping off they caused me in the past. Don't ever frequent that Saturn Dealership either for parts, find another. And most of all have a nice day! :) :) :)
Posted by dmjar863 on 2006-06-08:
If the dealers repair shop keeps screwing you over and not fixing the problem WHY DO YOU KEEP GOING BACK?? Go to a diffrent repair shop or two of them to compare and see what they say the problem is.
Posted by irate1 on 2006-09-01:

A lot of the service on Saturns cannot be accomplished by even the best independent shop. Saturn has you tied down somewhat. Try to have an ignition switch replaced at an independent shop. If you have the serpentine belt replaced at an independant dealer you void any power train warrant left on your vehicle. Going independant is not that easily done.
Posted by Anni on 2007-02-05:
You are crazy! Saturns are wonderful. I've owned 4 and have NEVER had any problems. GREAT CARS!!
Posted by fleecedbygalpinsaturn on 2007-09-04:
Saturn dealerships are out to make money regardless if the car needs a repair or not. I was just told by a Saturn dealership I needed new tires when thet are only a few months old. Plus they never checked what I asked them to. I will never go to a GM/Saturn dealership again. Sell your saturn and buy a something not made by GM.
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Great Experiences
Posted by JMarsh1966 on 07/13/2005
DUNDEE, ILLINOIS -- I just wanted to say I have purchased 3 automobiles from Saturn of Dundee, in Dundee Illinois and they have been wonderful with me all 3 times. I had some bad experiences with traditional dealerships including a Used car manager who took my keys and woundn't give them back until I threatened him! But Saturn has been such a blessing not to have to haggle! I will never buy a car from a traditional dealership again, because I just don't wanted to be treated that way. Thank you Saturn.
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power windows
Posted by on 04/25/2002
My four power windows in my 92 saturn sl 2 have all been repaired at least once and some as many as 4 times. Why hasn't there been a recall?
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