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Complaint---Fake Web Site
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Well I just thought I should try to warm people about the I hope no one else wastes money on this web site the way I have. I wasted $500 dollars on their so called "real rituals" and they are fake! FAKE FAKE FAKE.

Their web site is very promising and convincing but folks please don't waste your money!! When I tried to contact them regarding their fake rituals, THEY DO NOT RESPOND!

I have sent them about 5 emails complaining and they will not respond. I will get the word out so this hopefully doesn't happen to many people.
Company Response 06/23/2009:
We are
We always respond to people when they leave a e-Mail for us. We are very polite and have feelings for peoples needs. We have many people that have a high demand for them. Our rituals work very well for people. This person in some way didnt follow directions the way that they were given. You have to follow directions step by step to get the results that you are looking for. Any time something is written about us on the Internet we are contacted.
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Sparticus on 04/05/2008:
I think the first warning sign was their "clause" at the bottom of the homepage...

Principissa on 04/05/2008:
Exactly what type of ritual are you looking to do? Please let me know as I may be able to help you. If it was for revenge, love, or money, I cannot. Most ritual kits are a scam, if you really want to perform a ritual you are best off going to an eclectic store or buying a book and doing it yourself.
Anonymous on 04/05/2008:
It's also very clearly stated well above the clause that no refunds or exchanges will be granted. One would have to be blind not to see it. I must say they are being honest by stating their policies upfront and in plain language.
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
Why doesn't people know the difference between "Except" and "Accept"? "We now except personal or business checks"


The reason places like this does NOT take returns is because once these items are placed in another's hands, they can not re-sell them...they will have the vibes of that person on the items (voodoo dolls, etc)...also, they will not take returns on items such as spell rituals because people can actually USE the information, then return it for their money back...kind of like opened computer software. I do know what I'm talking about, being involved in this type of practice myself. Even when I do card readings, no one else can use my cards for readings and they have to be wrapped and protected when not in use and can never be used for card games. When doing candle wax readings, the only person to touch the candle would be myself and the person being read. You can not get accurate readings if it's been through other people's hands and this company is NOT going to take the time to cleanse returned items for re-sale and personally, I wouldn't want to purchase something that has already been in someone else's house because it can bring too many negative vibes into my house. As Sparty posted above, the return policy is quite clear...just thought I'd explain why it's that way.
One more thing...if you are not experienced in using Black Magic or any type of Rituals, I strongly advise against it. This type of stuff can very easily backfire on a person without the know how and it can open your home up for the entry of evil Spirits. You must have your ritual area within a protective circle and you must ONLY do your rituals within that area to protect you and your home. It's not something to be played with and there are consequences that come with it if you are not careful and take the proper precautions. Too many people get upset with another person and want to cause them harm, pain or make their life miserable with a quick fix but again...if you are not prepared for the possible consequences that can backfire on you, then you need to leave it up to a professional to do it for you. You also have to be careful that you are not hiring a person who is just out to rip you off with your money and there are plenty of them out there who will take advantage of people who are looking for help. If you're doing it yourself, you have to make sure you are doing it for the right have to do it with a clear mind (without hateful feelings for the other person), you have to protect you and your home and you have to be prepared to pay the price if something goes wrong. If you're working black magic, you have to make sure you are prepared if the outcome is what you wanted because when acted upon a whim, many people live with the guilt afterwards, realizing the issue that upset them with a particular person really wasn't as bad as they felt at the time and it was too late for them to turn the clock back and handle it in a different way...Good luck to you.
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
OH...and personally I don't feel this is the kind of stuff a person can "learn from book"..I think people need to be born with the power. In my case, the powers go back in generations and they have all practiced it. Those who learn from a book is only going through the motions. JMO.
Slimjim on 04/05/2008:
old fart on 04/05/2008:
Basher... If I have you do a lottery winning ritual for me do you think you can conjure up a winner for me..?

if it's anything over a million I'll get you 10%
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
Old F...I can provide you with YOUR lucky numbers...but it's up to you to play them on the right day ;)
old fart on 04/05/2008:
Lay 'em on me... I figure that if I play them and pray constantly without taking a break except for food and potty time, eventually something good will happen..
Principissa on 04/05/2008:
DB I so agree with you. People think that these rituals and spells work for everyone and they don't. When it comes to magick, you either have the ability or you don't. It's not something that you acquire overnight.
old fart on 04/05/2008:
If I go to the first ward in Saginaw and buy a "money bringing candle", that might increase my odds also..
old fart on 04/05/2008:
Ladies... forgive me for being just a teeny bit sceptical but the only spell I found that actually works is this one... "the harder I work, the luckier I get"...
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
To The Poster...why do you call the website a fake? What was wrong with what you ordered that made you want to return it? As said previously, the site seems to be upfront about what to expect from them. Did the ritual not work for you? Are you experienced working with rituals? We need some more info other than they are "Fake".
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
Old F...this is more about the powers of black magic and rituals, not just about money. I don't do "money" rituals. I don't know what the poster's wish was or what was expected...but as far as performing spells, black magic, card readings and even white magic etc. there are prices to pay if you're just playing with it and not taking it seriously. People always tell me if I know the lottery numbers, why am I not rich...but you don't use this to obtain monies for yourself. People (like myself) who does card readings, can not read their own...why? Because knowing the meaning of the cards, you can influence the cards to read what you want to hear. One card can have up to 4 or 5 different meanings and depending what cards are laid out around it, can have even more meanings...and a reader's mind can interpret the card in a favorable manner to, you don't get an accurate reading.
old fart on 04/05/2008:
Precisely my point Basher... If you perform the rituals and spells for ME and not you maybe it would work...that way you wouldn't be trying to get money for yourself.
No harm, no foul, right?
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
I will IM your lucky number to you.
old fart on 04/05/2008:
me Lids... me...
Anonymous on 04/05/2008:
Slim, I voted you (Best Answer)

Of course now they will put a spell on me!
OH! Where to hide....
old fart on 04/05/2008:
Basher.. where are the numbers you promised?
old fart on 04/05/2008:
Lids... like I said... later this month I'm going to wait for the full moon, strip naked, smear myself with blood and chicken feathers and dance around the pine tree in the front yard, muttering incantations..
I figure that it can't hurt and maybe will help...
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
And those in Saginaw will say.."Now THERE goes the neighborhood"...and they will ALL arm themselves with guns! Of course, it just might scare off the thugs! LOL!
old fart on 04/05/2008:
That "would" probably change my luck... pretty quickly I'd be sitting in the back seat of a sheriff's car, handcuffed and bound with a sheet wrapped around me..
Like the girls said, big JU-JU can have unexpected consequences..
old fart on 04/05/2008:
Basher... that wouldn't scare off the thugs so much as it would evacuate the neighborhood..
old fart on 04/05/2008:
I bet it would get a bunch of hits... a 68 year old polack bouncing around in circles, buck naked hoping for "the big score" that a picture you can take to bed with you Basher?
Ponie on 04/05/2008:
On a couple of occasions, for a fun thing, I've attended card reading parties friends have held. They brought in a 'reader' (is that what they're called?) who took a try at each of us. I'm still waiting for the windfall of $$$ they promised me. The only money I got was not having to supply my own snacks and 'beverages' served at the party. But to spend FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS for this stuff? Lady, get a life. Give that money to a deserving charity if you have so much to fritter away on nonsense.
Anonymous on 04/05/2008:
Ponie, that is very good advice I hope the op takes it!
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
Ponie...that's one of my points...people who does these types of parties do it "For entertainment purposes"...they pick up a book and memorize it...they have no abilities whatsoever to do actual readings. I wouldn't give a quarter for a reading from those people.
Ponie on 04/05/2008:
No, DB. They were not people who picked up their knowledge from a book--although I certainly couldn't prove that. As a result of these get-togethers, some of the people present continued going for private 'readings. (I hope I'm using the correct terminology.) The 'readers' had been in business for some time and the host/Hostess of the parties were regular clients of theirs. I personally would spend my money on what I consider more worthwhile endeavors, but that's just me. OTOH, it's websites like the complaint listed here that keeps our economy going. Everybody makes money. JMHO.
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
I meant those many of those that does these parties are mostly just memorizing from a book. They don't have any physic powers and they make a living "entertaining" people. They also have ways of getting people to continue coming to them by stating they have more "work" to do for them and charge them up. Now, if the readings those people did were actual readings and was accurate with what they said, then they may be in the few that are real.
DebtorBasher on 04/05/2008:
As a matter of fact, Old F...I do believe that I DO have a picture of that....let me check the M3C Family Photo Album! LOL!
Mrs. V on 04/05/2008:
I'm a solitary in the craft. I've learned mostly from a teacher a very long time ago (practicing for over 29 years, now).

I have also learned a great deal from books. It is all in how you apply yourself.

I've never really trusted buying a ritual online. It just doesn't seem right to me.

Where is the time and effort? Where is the pride and joy of a job well done? Not to mention, all the silly things that just don't work, or worse yet, work 'not' in the intended way.
DebtorBasher on 04/07/2008:
Good for you Mrs. V!
21nana on 04/09/2008:
Okay, maybe I wasn't clear in my complaint. THE MAGIC VINE IS FAKE meaning their rituals do not work. I followed the instructions on every ritual and nothing happened. Yes I did see that there were no refunds. I wasn't contacting them for a refund nor was I wanting one I was contacting them to complain and question their fake website. All I want is for people not to waste their money on this website the way I did.
Adam Brabender on 08/22/2012:
The FBI are after theses people, and all the other fake websites out there. This is quick rich scheme. The FBI will arrest these people tomorrow morning
N/A on 01/05/2013:
This sight is the biggest load of crap I've ever seen, huge waste of money and the person who runs this sight will NEVER message back unless you right PayPal refund in the subject. Also when my iteam didn't work I messaged her asking what I could do if I was doing something wrong. Sent multiple messages and never a reply back. So not only cheating you out of money but bad business. Needs shut down.
christy on 07/17/2013:
I emailed them the other day about a spell, and got no response. if they can't answer your emails, I sure wouldn't order anything from them.
John on 09/27/2013:
I wrote to the mail address of TheMagicVine on Sep 12, 2013 and several mails on their product enquiry. They always replied to my mail the next day, which makes me feel "safe" to purchase from them.

I did make my purchase on Sep 17, 2013. However, after my payment via Paypal, I sent them a mail on their "free gifts", listed on their Home page. But did not receive any reply since then.

They did however, send me a Delivery Tracking mail.

badgirl5356 on 11/01/2013:
I bought the wishing stones and they work
Lady Luv on 11/26/2013:
I have ordered from themagicvine and the item that I got from them worked for me. And I seen that badgirl5356 got something from them and it worked for her also. It just depends on the person etc. I have ordered from them for over 15 years and haven't had no problem with them. I know a few others that has ordered from them and some of them are my friends that have posted on the site about there success.
Miranda on 12/06/2013:
I just bought the wish rocks. I tried them but I haven't seen any results yet. Dear badgirl5356, can you email me and give me some advice on the wishing rocks. I have some questions. Please. I do believe in magic and want all my wishes to come true. My email is
Justin Reed on 01/17/2014:
I wish they would reply back to me but they haven't and could not get a tracking number der on me but it was shipped out on January 3rd according to the first email. And so far after no email responses and no response on regular mail either. So I don't know what else to do so my first experience has been bad. Maybe it did get lost in the mail, but some response should be warranted.
Justin Reed on 01/26/2014:
The store is about to close or is closed!
Ela on 04/21/2014:
What I bought worked.
I bought the wishing well ritual and nothing worked, maybe it was because I had doubt and I kept thinking negative things. Then I bought the genie coin and... It worked.
I got the exact money I asked for in all 3 wishes.
I'm buying more soon now that I have the money.
... Just let go all all doubt and believe.
KKB on 05/21/2014:
Ela, you bought the coins? Did you wait the 11 days? Did they really work for you?
I bought them 3 days ago and I sent magicvine 2 emails about them and have not got an answer so I saw your comment and figured Id ask you. Can you tell me all steps you took to use them?
CLL on 12/08/2014:
I have bought a Genie Lamp from magic vine it has been almost 45 days since my purchased, and my item has not yet been shipped when can I expect the lamp I purchased to arrive?
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