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High Gas prices Complaint - High Gas Prices

Review by ozzyventura on 2007-03-12
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA -- I mean, Who is going to put a stop to sky high gas prices? What are the government officials doing about it? -because we the consumer cannot do anything about it, but to complain, but we don't get any results, and we don't do anything about, but just to complain. I think is time to start a revolution to fight this republican government which is feeding their pockets from our pockets. Let's REALLY do something about it!!! Let's stop the republican manipulation and we just don't do nothing about it, but just to complain, let's get together and get some results, let's our voices be heard people.
Comments:32 Replies - Latest reply on 2013-03-05
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Instead of complaining you can, use less gas. Car pool to work, use public transportation when possible, plan out your errands. Walk more. Vote them out of office.

There's plenty you can do.
Posted by Sparticus on 2007-03-13:
Relative to the rest of the world, we have pretty cheap gas. In Europe for instance, gas costs probably 2-3 times what it costs here. I agree with Robf, we need to find new ways to use LESS gas.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
ozzyventura, Here you have your reason why nothing will be done about it. One your are saying it is this republican government. Wrong, it is the whole government, Federal, state and local they make to much money to help lower gas prices. And as you can see by the other answers here, the people FALL for it, why I don’t have a clue. Maybe they like paying high prices?
Gasoline Tax Rates by State
Note: The Federal Gas Tax is 18.4 cpg

State Gas Diesel
(cpg) (cpg)
California 18 18

Notes: Other taxes include a 6% state sales tax and 1.25% county, plus additional local sales taxes and 1.2 cents per gallon state UST fee.

Check it out!
http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Check out some more facts, be in the know. This is your government at work helping WHO? Themself's!

Source: American Petroleum Institute, Tax Foundation.

Today, the combined burden of federal, state and local gas taxes costs American drivers an average of 45.9 cents on every gallon purchased. As Figure 2 illustrates, in some states the combined taxes exceed 60 cents for every gallon purchased. According to data on gasoline use from the U.S. Department of Transportation, that amounts to an annual gas tax burden of roughly $271 for every man, woman and child in the United States. In these times of concern over high gas prices, American consumers should remember that gasoline taxes have a significant impact on the amount they spend at the pump.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1054.html
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Your government really wants to help you! LOL
State and Federal Treasuries "Profit" More from Gasoline Sales than U.S. Oil Industry
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1139.html

Table 1. State and Federal Gasoline Taxes Compared to Major U.S. Oil Companies’ Domestic Profits, 1977-2004 (figures in billions of 2004 dollars)
Year Oil Federal State Total Taxes
2003 $31.7 $24.6 $33.4 $58.0
2004 $42.6 $24.2 $34.2 $58.4
Total $643.0 $533.0 $810.1 $1,343.1

Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis, U.S. Energy Information Administration

Unlike the highly volatile path of industry profits, gasoline taxes exhibit steady growth with little regard for changes in the U.S. economy. As lawmakers respond to rising gas prices, they should keep in mind the importance of state and federal gasoline taxes in comparison with oil industry profits.
Posted by rnick821 on 2007-03-13:
It's been pretty well established that ethanol is not going to help us. Unlike Brazil who can make ethanol from sugar cane, we don't have that crop in our agricultural belt...corn works, but it often takes more energy to produce ethanol from corn than it would just to use regular gasoline...plus it drives the cost of corn up for farmers to feed cattle.

Personally, I think that bio-diesel is a better answer...it's more efficient to make and can power any diesel engine..The problem is, of course, is that automakers don't make diesel cars. In 2006, Jeep made a diesel version of its Liberty SUV...got GREAT mileage, and every single one of the ones produced sold off the lot. I know this as I tried to get one and couldn't. What did they do in 2007? Stop making it, of course. Why? Who knows.

My thought is that we need to invest in bio-diesel technology and encourage US automakers to produce more diesel cars.
Posted by MRM on 2007-03-13:
I wish for just one day, that the world will stop buying gas and in effect will hurt the oil industry.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
MRM, if just the American people would stop buying gas for one day the government would probably put a win fall profit on the people and laugh at us for trying.

But I here what you are saying and I do agree.
Posted by rnick821 on 2007-03-13:
MRM:

That idea has been floated...it might cause a momentary hiccup, but not really a long-term effect. What needs to happen is for the world to stop USING (not buying) gas for a day, or a week, etc. That would in turn raise the supply and cause prices to go down. If we choose not to buy for a day and still use the same amount, we'll just buy more the next day. The problem is, though, the more we conserve the more developing countries like China and India will buy, still keeping prices high.

There is not a good solution here...unless in the case of gasoline (which is just one product that we use that is made of oil) we can find an alternative such as bio-diesel.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
rnick821, bio-diesel is a great idea and I agree we should pursue that, but it is up to the people to do it because the government isn't going to because that would be like shooting themselves in the foot.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
And yet Mobil/Exxon can still manage to eke out profits of over ONE HUNDRED BILLION dollars a year.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
State and Federal Treasuries "Profit" More from Gasoline Sales than U.S. Oil Industry

by Jonathan Williams and Scott A. Hodge


Fiscal Fact No. 38

High gas prices and strong oil company earnings have generated a rash of new tax proposals in recent months. Some lawmakers have called for new “windfall profits” taxes—similar to the one signed into federal law in 1980 by President Jimmy Carter—that would tax the profits of major oil companies at a rate of 50 percent. Meanwhile, many commentators have voiced support for the idea of increasing gas taxes to keep the price of gasoline at post-Katrina highs, thereby reducing gas consumption.

However, often ignored in this debate is the fact that oil industry profits are highly cyclical, making them just as prone to “busts” as to “booms.” Additionally, tax collections on the production and import of gasoline by state and federal governments are already near historic highs. In fact, in recent decades governments have collected far more revenue from gasoline taxes than the largest U.S. oil companies have collectively earned in domestic profits. (Click here for previous analysis of state, local and federal gas taxes.)
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Let me try this one more time:
The Oil Industry profit $643 Billion
State's (50) taxes to the people $810.1 Billion
Federal "Profit" from taxes to the people $533 Billion

Total Oil Industry $643.0 Billion
Total that you the people were taxed $1,343.1 Billion

Do you really think the government is going to help us? And remember this was only up to 2004.
Posted by bill on 2007-03-13:
Why do you keep saying the "republican government"? The democrats won last November. Let's see them do something about it.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Kidman, great numbers. Total Oil Industry $643.0 Billion, we have no idea how much our Federal, State and Local governments make. Until the oil industry and our "governments" find a way to replace these incomes we will be forced to pay, pay, pay. No oil income recipient wants to give up their piggy bank. Detroit could have gotten us off of oil years ago but the relationship with the oil industry could not be broken. It's a cycle that will be hard to brake. The "energy system" is sucking the life out of us while we do our best to conserve.
Posted by Noneill on 2007-03-13:
But didn't the republicans start a war for oil?
Posted by Dirtydave on 2007-03-13:
I hate high gas prices as much as anyone, but that's life, as stated above we pay much less that most of the rest of the world. Me, I bought a Toyota Prius, and I get around 50 MPG, it helps take the sting out of the gas prices.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
For Pete’s sake will you read before you post? Don’t make me come back here again!

Noneill, The terrorist started the war and the Government, (both sides) went along with it and so did the people that statement doesn't fit here.


superbowl, the Federal government made $533 Billion
The States made $810.1 Billion
The total they made off of us was $1,343.1 Billion

Go and read about it:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1139.html
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Yes, Dirtydave let us lay down and take it for that is life and we do pay much less then most of the rest of the world, please just give me my zanx so I can sleep and pretend I have it better then anyone else. WAKE UP!

That kind of thinking is the reason we are in the place we are now! If the founding Farther’s were like this we would still be subjects to the King. That war was fought over TAXES!!!

How much did you pay for your Toyota Prius and how long will you have to drive it to off-set the price of gas you are saving? If the barratries go dead how much will you lose?

The other countries you are talking about have MASS TRANSIT in place they get something for the taxes they pay, you don’t!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
Posted by bill on 2007-03-13:
Noneill: No they didn't. The war in Iraq has nothing to do with oil. Lidman: I am in total agrrement wiht you. Good posts.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Thank you Bill!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Good job, Lids!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Thanks zz!
Posted by MRM on 2007-03-13:
This thread is very informative indeed. I like reading articles that I dont know much about.
Posted by Ponie on 2007-03-13:
Yep--that's the entity that should do something about it--the government! Some here have mentioned the taxes we pay for gasoline. That's the result of the government at work. Puh-leeze! I'm sick of the government taking care of me. Get off my back. I can handle my affairs much more efficiently than some bureaucrat in DC or even locally. I'll drive more when gas prices are low, cut back when they go up.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Walk or get a horse.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-13:
Santo Presti, quotes about Irs:
Fear is the key element for the IRS in achieving its mission. Without fear, the IRS would have a difficult time maintaining our so-called system of voluntary compliance ...
Posted by DORCAS on 2007-03-13:
Lidman and Bill. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE APPLAUSE!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-14:
HI DORCAS! Where have you been? I miss you around here.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-03-14:
The issue as I see it is it's us against them. Consumers -vs- our own government and the oil/auto industry. They write the rules on how the game is played. If the rules ever favor the consumer "they" just change the rules. Anybody see what our money is building in Dubai? The new Dubai Palm Islands: http://guide.theemiratesnetwork.com/living/dubai/the_palm_islands.php. At least our hard earned money that Bush is letting fly out of our country is being put to good use building 'The Eighth Wonder of the World'.
Posted by documentary on 2007-03-29:
What is going on recently with gas prices-who's making the money from these record profits-what can we do about it, what will it take to stop this-this is a crime.
Posted by sarah on 2013-03-05:
Now that the republicans are out of office and gas prices are even worse, can we all agree that it's not a party that raises the gas prices, but the government in general.
And someone made the comment about our gas being cheaper here than it is in Europe- they also don't rely on the automobile like we do. We don't have mass transportation systems set up in volume like Europe does. We also have further commutes than they do. So, the next time you claim that we aren't paying as much, we definitely are.

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