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Virginia Tech University Informative - Gun Control

Review by 36356 on 2007-04-17
BLACKSBURG, VIRGINIA -- I am surprised no one has posted about VT as yet. Our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and survivors. This really makes a case for federal gun control and tighter immigration laws. The shooter paid $570.00 last month for gun and ammo. How can a North Korean walk into a Virginia gun store, lay down $570.00 then kill 32 people a month later?

I am appalled that our system is so broken to allow such a thing to happen. Can you imagine the fall out if this had happened in North Korea by an American? I wish we had some politicians with some guts to fix what is broken.
Comments:23 Replies - Latest reply on 2008-02-03
Posted by *Brenda* on 2007-04-17:
I don't think immigration has anything to do with this. He immigrated when he was 8 years old as per MSNBC. He was here legally. How could the USA have known that 15 years later he would do this. Americans have shot up schools too. Gun control is a whole different issue but if a person is crazy enough to do this they will find a way to get the guns.
Posted by Sparticus on 2007-04-17:
Personally I don't think automatic weapons are NOT necessary for "hunting"... if we could get them off the store shelves... maybe a few extra lives could have been spared...
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-17:
Guts to fix what is broken? Haven't you heard? It's NOT guns that kill people, it's PEOPLE that kill people. I prefer to exercise MY right to own a firearm. Nothing is broken in this case, except the shooter probably had psych issues.

I agree with *Brenda*'s points, also.


Posted by Paks on 2007-04-17:
Guns....knives...Swords....rocks....lets ban em all. Hell for that matter ban forks knives and spoons, those can kill too you know.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-17:
I agree with Brenda, even if you stop selling guns it won't solve the problem, even young kids can get guns, just around five or six years ago a six year old took his grandparents gun to school and shot a female classmate killing her. Banning then will not solve the problem. They will just find them elsewhere.
Posted by *Brenda* on 2007-04-17:
He did have psych issues, sounds like they were pretty bad.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18161472/site/newsweek/

The whole thing is just horrible..
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-17:
Emt_c, I own guns and agree we have a right to own a fire arm. Your right the shooter killed not the gun. What is broken is our system of how guns are handled and sold. Just what does a 23 year old Korean immigrant need with an automatic weapon? He was not going to hunt ducks... I'm talking about looking at the laws on distribution of guns like automatic weapons being sold over the counter. Yes, this boy had some serious issues too. Paks, real intelligent post.
Posted by dfields on 2007-04-17:
also, according to ABC Nightly News (this evening), one of the shooter's professor's from his High School, contacted authorities because of his bizarre stories which included killing people. The authorities stated, because a crime had not been committed, there was nothing they could do.

His professor discovered very early that he was DISTURBED. In today's society, there should be in place a system that will help these people. What kind of message is this sending teachers and professors throughout the country?!!!!
Posted by Nohandle on 2007-04-17:
Superbowl, go to the Forum side and you will read more on this issue.
Posted by *Brenda* on 2007-04-17:
Superbowl it doesn't matter that he is a Korean immigrant. No one has any use for an automatic weapon. Why do you keep bringing up the fact that he was Korean?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
Brenda, I understood he was a visa student, now we know he immigrated here when he was 8 years old. The Korean immigrant issue is a mute point now that we all know his true status. Nothing more than that, I had a issue with a student coming over on a visa and going off on us.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
The issue here is so much deeper then stricter laws, tho I agree that automatic weapons of any kind should be banned. We live in a society that tolerates violence and revenge on so many levels and in so many ways. No one has to take accountability for their actions: we blame our parents, schools, churches, bosses, co-workers, the list goes on and on. Why is that we are so shocked about the killing of 32 people, but we are not shocked when we hear that one person was shot? Is there a difference or have we just become tolerant to the everyday, common stories we hear on the nightly news? Both are equally sad and terribly frightening. I can't begin to imagine the pain and suffering any of these families are going through right now.
Posted by GWbiker on 2007-04-18:
What automatic weapon? Where can I buy one over the counter? Must it be a class III FFL dealer? What about the Federal Tax Stamp?
Posted by *Brenda* on 2007-04-18:
Yeah Superbowl but American citzens have shot up schools too. Psychos come in every shape and color. You never know when someone is going to snap.
Posted by shawnp80 on 2007-04-18:
Superbowl, He used 2 pistols for the massacre. He did not use ANY automatic weapons. He is also South Korean.
Posted by jenjenn on 2007-04-18:
I think "paks" makes a good point! Maybe you should read between the lines...
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-18:
The pistol he used was an automatic, he had extra clips, read the news.
Posted by shawnp80 on 2007-04-18:
Superbowl, I read the news.. a 9mm Glock pistol nor a .22 caliber pistol are automatic weapons.
Posted by rhondam718732 on 2007-04-18:
Superbowl, you have made it clear to me that you are a racist. First gays and now South Koreans. Do you wear a white cloth around your town? Who cares what race he was...we have had evil people in the white race run around and kill innocents (Timothy McVeigh for one.)
Posted by jktshff1 on 2007-04-21:
shawnp80 and all the others. First after reviewing my post, let me apologize for the long rant.
The weapons were actually SEMI-AUTOMATIC weapons and NOT automatic weapons.
If banning guns worked, there would be no gun crimes in Washington, DC, the Republic of New York City or the Republic of Chicago as they have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation.
Also, guns are not allowed on the campus (except by criminals that don't care about the law), even by law abiding citizens that could have helped.
THE CRIMINALS NEED TO BE PUNISHED. There is no deterrent for someone who commits crime Jail=TV, Computer, 3 square meals, exercise equipment, library, free medical and dental and typically, the whole term is not being served (pardons, parole, good behavior etc). Take it all away and let them sit for 24hr day reading whatever spiritual literature they want, eat pbj sandwitches and sleep on a cot.
Finally, our society as a whole has allowed the movie, video game, and recording industries to depict violence in our society thru films, movies, recordings etc as a natural way to resolve problem.
The children of American deserve better than that.
Educate your children, set an example for them, read to them, play with them, talk to them, take some responsibility..do not use the computer or tv as a baby sitter
Posted by Starlord on 2007-05-19:
A few of you understand the difference between semiautomatic weapons, more accurately called 'self feeders.' You get one shot for each pull of the trigger. Automatic weapons are very tightly controlled and some people do possess them. They must be manufactured before a certain date, there is a heavy tax if one is sold, ownership is very tightly monitored and controlled, and they are fun to shoot. They will continue to fire as long as you hold the trigger down and there are rounds in the magazine. Point most people are not aware of: there has never been any automatic weapon registered under federal law used in the commission of ANY crime. The young man in question lied to the dealer on the ATF Form 1173. He had to have, you cannot buy a gun if you answer the question about having been adjudged as having a mental problem. We have many businesses here in Arizona that posted signs, "Weapons Prohibited on Premises," just as soon as the state passed the CCW law, thus depriving us law-abiding citizens who have proven by an FBI background check, a multi-day class on firearms (when you may use deadly force, knowledge of your weapon, etc.) which includes qualifying with your weapon at the range (one must fire a certain score out of a possible score. I have already put Wal-Mart and Denny's on notice, if I get hurt by a wacko with a knife or a gun in their businesses, I will sue them for everything I can get. When they act like they don't understand, I say," Can you say Luby's in Killeen, Texas? I knew you could." I am a former police officer, and I have no problem with armed citizens. The violent crime figures have dropped since Arizona legalized concealed carry, the bad guys don't know who might be armed.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2007-05-24:
Starlord,
Amen. the "Gun Free Zones" should read..Criminal Protection Zone.
Posted by chow on 2008-02-03:
This tragedy has got nothing to do with immigration, he is mentally ill, suffered from paranoid schizophrenia,bipolar disorder and psychotic depression, combine with ability to access fire arms, he is a walking time bomb.
Our gun control law is full of loopholes.

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