Produce Informative - Price - groceries

Review by truckin21 on 2007-04-28
I live in Arizona. Northeastern part of the state. I went to the store the other day (Safeway) to buy some ingredients to make a stew. I am a widower living by myself, so I didn't need awhole lot. I was in the produce section getting ready to buy an onion. Two ladies were discussing the price of the yellow onions ($1.99@lb.). They were trying to figure out why they cost so much. "The store wanted to make a bigger profit, the farmer wanted more money, etc., etc.. I couldn't help myself; I asked them how much they were paying for fuel for their cars. They said: "Too damn much". Then I told them; I used to haul produce from Salinas, Ca. to Salem, Ill. That is adistance
of 2100 miles. In a rig that carried 40k lbs of lettuce, that could only travel a maximum of 65mph, carried 270 gallons of fuel and got 7 mpg on a good day, That trip cost $928.44 just for fuel.Now, I was a company driver, so I didn't have pay, but, the shipper (farmer) did. This was unprocessed lettuce. It went to a produce plant in Illinois to be processed into salads, canned goods, and other products for sale to the general public. People want these products in the stores, but, most of them don't know what it takes to get them there. Everyday farms are getting farther and farther from the stores. Manufacturing plants are doing the same. People want the products, but they don't want the facilities that it takes to make the product. There is a meat processing plant wants to come into the city. What is the first thing people talk about? We don't want the smell. We don't care that it will bring 100+ jobs to the community, we don't want the smell. We don't care that it might decrease the cost of our meats, we don't want the smell. I don't understand people. They want what ever, but they don't want to do what it takes to get it. Have you ever seen a railway that goes right up to a Wal-Mart, Kmart, Safeway, Albertsons, or Fred Meyer store??? How do you think all those items get into those stores??? People are going to learn that: "THE EASIER SOMETHING IS TO MAKE/DO; THE LESS IT WILL COST." That $928.00 I quoted before, is what the fuel cost is just to et from the field to the processing plant; then you have the cost of processing, the cost of transporting to the store. The only cost involved in all this, that the public can (but refuses to) control is the fuel cost. Take the responsibilty that God gave you. Control your own costs. Don't put it all off on someone else. It only (I say only because to some people it is an insignificant amount) costs $37.00 to fill my vehicle. I spend exactly $10.00 @ week for fuel. That gets me where I NEED to go and back. You notice, I said NEED TO GO. I would love to go to Oregon and visit my family. But, until fuel prices come down to a reasonable price, letters and pictures will have to do. For those of you who read this, I hope you read it for what it is. It is just a review stating that you CAN CHANGE things if you want to. I only ask: "IF YOU DON'T VOTE, DON'T GRIPE". If you are not willing to TRY and change things, then you should not get upset when things don't go your way.
Comments:13 Replies - Latest reply on 2007-04-30
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-28:
I really don't get your point, here. I appreciate truck drivers. Is that what this is about?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-28:
Emt_c, agreed, reason for the post is fuzzy. I think maybe it has to do with why produce (onions) cost $1.99 per lb. and fuel?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-28:
I don't eat onions, so this doesn't apply to me.
Posted by Nohandle on 2007-04-28:
Truckin21, I think most recognize the value of the trucking industry as to getting our necessities to us. We understand the cost of fuel and labor from the fields to our grocery stores. I don't complain at all. If I can't afford a particular item I simply don't purchase. If someone does complain then he needs to take a long hard look at what's involved here. Obviously you have some suggestions. What are they?
Posted by Pomona Guy on 2007-04-28:
Three cheers for Truckin21. Pay attention to the elderly, they are wise.
Posted by ejack053824 on 2007-04-29:
If I eat onions...they would label my farts with a HAZMAT warning. Anyways...I appreciate the elderly.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-29:
Truckin21, hey old timer! You are getting better at this and you raised some very good points and I agree with a lot of what you say here.

But why did you have to add the last bit?
"I only ask: "IF YOU DON'T VOTE, DON'T GRIPE". If you are not willing to TRY and change things, then you should not get upset when things don't go your way."

If people don't vote it is because they have a reason and most people with a little common sense know that your vote really doesn't count. Look at the freaking government we have right now. The voter's put them in office and by God I will complain, spit, jump up and down and fight till I have no breath left in my body before I capitulate, conform and/or fall for any of there propaganda. I will not become one of there “Sheep” and/or play a loser’s game like voting for the lesser of two evils.

Voting does not change things, People change things!!

Posted by grandma005 on 2007-04-29:
I just returned from the grocery store in Ca. One of the most expensive places to live. Onions were 98 cents a pound, still expensive. But !.98 a pound! Sounds like the stores mark-up is higher than it needs to be.
Posted by truckin21 on 2007-04-29:
Lidman: I can understand your view, but --- How do you think this government of ours got to be where it is? Because people do have the attitude that "IF IT DOESN'T WORK THE FIRST TIME -- FORGET IT. THERE IS NO USE IN CONTINUING". I just got through listening to a Lou Dobbs report. (04-29-2007). Why is the mayor of San Francisco still in office? He is openly disobeying a FEDERAL MANDATE on illegal immigrants. My point is: 1. People that don't even know what a truck is, are trying to tell the people that have driven them all their lives, how to operate. 2. If you don't pay the price they cannot charge the higher fees. I guess the biggest point is: Yes, voters put people in office. And when those people DO NOT do what they were put there to do, the people that put them there to start with STILL VOTE FOR THEM when it comes time to change. As for your particular attitude about (NO Vote, No griping): If I come into your house (which the government is doing) and you do NOTHING to try and stop me, I will rob you blind. If you don't call the police, shoot me, or make ANY ATTEMPT TO STOP ME, you have no one to blame but yourself for what happens. That is what I mean when I say-"If you don't try and change the situation (vote) you really have no reason to gripe." People have got to stop being ostriches, get their head out of the sand, or by the time they do it will be too late, then you will really have something to jump up/down about, spit and holler, but when you do you will get shot, or worse. The whole problem is: The American people donot BELIEVE that what happened in Germany in the 30's/40's, and what is happening in the MIddle East today, cannot/willnot happen here. I have news for you all: IT IS CLOSER THAN YOU THINK. A snow ball is nothing but a snowflake before someone rolls it up. A tree cannot grow if a seed is not planted. Our government, both good and bad, is what we have allowed it to be. And the more we hide our head in the sand, the worse it will get.
Posted by truckin21 on 2007-04-29:
Everybody sounds like they never read the ENTIRE post. Pirate w/Parrot: Next time you need to fill your vehicle and it costs $100.00, then tell me it doesn't apply to you. Do you have kids? If so, next time it costs you $50.00 just to feed them a sandwich, tell me it doesn't apply to you. The post was not about the price of onions. The post was: "Some one could not undersand why things cost so much now-a-days." Once they found out that just about everything you have,buy,use, or need, to exist is directly porportional to the cost of transportation they understood. The more people are willing to pay for fuel for their vehicles, to heat their homes, even to cook with, the more their food, clothing, playthings, etc. is ging to cost. This country is about (the majority). And as long as the majority are willing, and able, to {pay the price} the prices will stay [out-of-reach]for the (little guy).
Posted by truckin21 on 2007-04-29:
Lidman: Your comment: "People don't vote for a reason" is sort of what I am getting at. What reason? My answer to that is: "People want someone else to do it for them. They can't vote because they need to go to the local tavern, get drunk, drive and kill some innocent; they want the schools to take care of their kids, they want McDonalds to be held responsible when they spill coffe on themselves, they want the tobacco companies to be held responsible when they get emphasyma/cancer from smoking. That is why they don't vote, why they don't get in volved. When I said "If you don't try and change it, you have no right to gripe." You can gripe all you want, but if you don't want to help change/correct the problem, no one will listen to you. Kind of like; you go upstairs to your bathroom (if it is upstairs), turn the water on in the tub (if you have a tub) go back downstairs, fall asleep on the couch and wake up in a pool of water. What do you expect to happen when you don't TRY and change things? What do you expect to happen if you don't turn the water off? Why would you gripe about something that happens, when IF YOU HAD OF TOOK THE INITATIVE, you could have prevented it? Sounds to me like you just like to gripe, which in this Country, today is your right. But, will you still have that right 5 yrs, 10yrs., or 20 years from now? Will your kids (if you have any) have that right when they are your age?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-04-29:

I am saying the same things you are here I just don’t agree that voting once a year is doing anything constructive. Yes, we the people put our heads in the sand and let the government get so far out of control that there is not too much that counts anymore as far as voting goes. When is the last time a president was elected by the popular vote? Do you know?

Dividing the people by saying things like “if you don’t vote you don’t have a right” is the same propaganda the politicians want you to spread. This makes people just give up and why not? The people that vote are a minority that doesn’t seem to get the facts and believe they are “doing their duty.”

I would just like to say that I agree we have a very incompetent government and that anytime you have politicians in the middle of a war the people lose. Just like Vietnam the politicians fought the war form a far and they lost the war.

If history teaches us nothing else it teaches us that no matter what a politician says the country that loses the war is the “bad guy.” There has never been a country that lost a war that was a “good guy.”

May God have mercy on America.
Posted by doescustomerserviceexist? on 2007-04-30:
Good point. The price of gas is way up. It is not only hurting our checkbooks at the pump it's also effecting the products that we buy due to the inflamation of gas prices.
This persons point is,is to do something about it insteed of just sitting around complaining about it.
We want cheeper gas and food, ext., then we need to start holding the people responsiable, or were going to end up with some huge problems. Change the gas prices or allow farms to grow closer to our homes.
Isen't there remote locations that farms can be placed that a limited number of people will be affected?
Why do farms need to be placed right next to freeways, theaters, schools, grocery stores, ext.? I'm sure that they could choose better location proposals to put there farms, but location is everything and they want to be seen.

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