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Rip Off Report Complaint - Google Carries False Postings from ROR - False Postings Carried by Google from ROR

False Postings Carried by Google from ROR - Complaint
Review by chartermember on 2007-08-16
ROR, in all its wisdom, has posted complaints from another Investigation Company, KMS Investigations Inc, and has falsely connected our business KMS Detective Agency as one of the same. Google is now carrying it front first page where our clients can see this crap. This is america for gods sake. This ROR has no knowledge of anything with our company and we are in fact a brand new business. Apparen'tly KMS Investigations Inc had ROR posted complaint(s) and Ed of ROR has made a connection between the two businesses and runs with it.

What in the hell is going on with America now days. This is shamefull. One business that is not connected to another business is now placed in bed together by ROR and Google is carrying in first page. HOw does this crap happen and has anyone else experienced this funny papers loony toon ROR making stuff up from la la land and shaming a businessness that has done nothing but just open its doors
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Posted by moneybags on 2007-08-16:
What exactly is ROR?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2007-08-16:
ROR = Rip Off Report.
Posted by GothicSmurf on 2007-08-16:
ROR is like my 3 cents... where the site doesn't make claims, but the people do. The only difference between ROR and my3cents is that ROR will not remove postings.
Posted by PassingBy on 2007-08-17:
Change your home page to state that you are not connected with KMS Investigations.
Posted by Slimjim on 2007-08-17:
There is a lot more difference than that gothic. I don't swee Max or any other operator here extorting businesses to add a glowing EDitorial or remove posts. Charter, you can report copyright infringements to Google, and your business name and info may qualify. They will report your claim on a site of theirs as a reaction, but it won't hurt biz. Basically you will be asking Google to block your repot(s). It doesn't always happen though.
Posted by Slimjim on 2007-08-17:
PassingBy's suggestion is a good one may I add. A simple disclaimer may be all you need after all.
Posted by KenPopcorn on 2007-08-17:
ROR is living on borrowed time. Their new interface if flaky and most often doesn't work. When it does you seethatthere are no new postings for days at a time. I think the public has finally caught on to this snake oil salesman.
Posted by Stew.old on 2007-08-17:
This is not a complaint against Rip Off Report. ROR does not control how google pulls search results. The ROR article is linked to your company in google because of this line from an ROR article -- "For starters, there is no corporation listed under the name “KMS Investigations" or “KMS Detective Agency" in Alabama or California"... Okay, I don't see this a disparaging comment against your company. Also, it appears to be true statement.

So I guess I have to ask what is your complaint? Is there something on ROR about your company that is inaccurate. Give me a break. I do not find your contribution worthy of a 'very helpful' vote.
Posted by Lidman on 2007-08-17:
ROR is nothing but a bunch of ED and if this KMS Investigations Inc, and has falsely connected our business KMS Detective Agency as one of the same then as a detective agency you should investigate ROR and bring in a lawyer on this matter.

Then you should do an Investigation on this “Stew” poster here and have his sorry arass put in a mental institute where he could get some help.

Good luck to your new company chartermember.
Posted by superbowl on 2007-08-17:
Remove Ripoff Reports:

Negative Internet Posting Removal
Negative Posting Prevention
removeripoffreport.blog.ca
Posted by superbowl on 2007-08-17:
Rip Off Reports Business Model is based on libel and slander.

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Posted by chemman on 2007-08-17:
I agree superbowl, I read a huge article about the guy that runs the site, it was a few months back. Basically, he extorts money out of people to get the negative reviews removed or disputed. He charges companies outrageous amounts for this service, none of the companies involved would give a figure but one said a $50,000 up front payment along with a monthly payment was in the ballpark for what they were paying. The article also stated that companies would try and sue him, but ultimately it ends up being cheaper just to pay him off since he is not responsible for what others post. There were also allegations of the owner actually posting slanderous reports himself anonymously on the site to help generate revenue.
Posted by superbowl on 2007-08-17:
Chemman, Ed has been caught red handed changing reviews. Posting his own reviews and extorting money. He owns nothing and has nothing in his name so he is judgement proof. It will take a huge law suit and government intervention to get him to change his ways or to get him shut down. Ed is a real piece of work.
Posted by Slimjim on 2007-08-17:
You're right Super, it has to be a Government action, such as RICO charges, that will be its demise. I couldn't say if the site is under investigation, but because of the 1st Amendment he hides behind, they are going to have to supply quite a bit of proof of wrongdoing when they pull his plug.
Posted by rnick821 on 2007-08-17:
I was addicted to ROR until I found this site. Some of the stuff on there is so darned funny, though! Once I read that article that chemman was talking about, I quit looking at it though. The guy obviously has issues and is a bigger scammer than any business being complained about on his site.
Posted by chartermember on 2007-08-17:
What rock do people like this Ed character of ROR crawl out from under? Does he just make stuff up and print it? He must I would assume. I am an attorney and just checked chartermembers claims and he is telling the truth. KMS Investigations Inc is a Delaware corp and KMS Detective Agency is a sole prop owned by different people. In fact there are 6 other KMS Investigations in the nation too. This Ed character doesnt know squat so there is no doubt he just makes this stuff up. Your probably just one business of thousands that has been victimized by this Ed character and its sad that this happens to good people
Posted by Slimjim on 2007-08-17:
whoops, that killed a little credibility.
Posted by meyoudontknowwho on 2008-10-25:
That's not true, Rip Off Reports is doing a service to the victims of KMS Investigations, KMS Detective Agency and 4Front Investigations. Go to Rip Off Reports and look how many people they've duped into believing they're a legitimate company. They're NOT! They're a huge internet scam run by one guy with many, many names.
Posted by Sharp Knife on 2009-02-04:
Ed Magedson is now selling the identity and contact information of parties posting complaints on his ROR. So he is running two criminal operations, extortion to remove false complaints he pens himself under fake names and then if a business pays him the right amount he will sell the name, address and phone number of the parties that filed the complaint on ROR agaisnt them.

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