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Marion County Adjustment Center Complaint - Health/fire hazard - Prison/detention center

Review by bulldykebaby on 2007-08-25
ST, MARYS, KENTUCKY -- I am concerned for the health and well being of the inmates and there visitors as I also make visits each and every week.This is a very old building,which needs to be condemned.They don't have air conditioning in the building,where visitations are allowed and it feels as if it is 120 degrees inside. The fire department has been there only to tell the inmates to unplug the extension cords before they leave the room, because the wiring is so bad.While they have SAP classes each inmate has a fan plugged into an extension cord,which are all connected. The inmates which are trying to better themselves seem to be the ones getting punished. The Department of Corrections were there to inspect,but was made to believe the inmates had kool-aid to drink on hot days,which never happens and hasn't happened since.This is inhumane, even animals have to be in
air conditioning. The families are being punished along with the prisoners.The inmates which aren't trying to better themselves can lay around soaking
up the cool air only because they are in a building which has air and I feel they should be treated equal.

I feel the funds are being misused,because this is a privately owned facility,and the property desperately needs updated for safety purposes.The building also has asbestos in the ceiling and floor tiles.
Comments:7 Replies - Latest reply on 2007-08-25
Posted by yoke on 2007-08-25:
Why do inmates need air conditioning?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-08-25:
Yoke I will try and tell you about reasoning. If you consider all inmates as the worst of the worst, then you're in for a shock. Most are not deserving of this kind of treatment.

Here is a book you might read: The Perpetual Prisoner Machine: How America Profits from Crime.

If we are to try and “REHABILATATE” these people that may have a chance to return back to society then it would be well for us to drop the attitude that all criminals are bad people and they should be locked away, with out AC or safe conditions.

After all what does it take to become a prisoner in this country? Careful, you may already qualify.

1. You break the law or at least you are perceived as have broken the law.
2. You are judged by a judge that is 99.9% sure to be a crook him/her self.
3. Or you are judged by 12 that are feed by 3, the judge, prosecutor and the defense.
4. The facts speak very loud today about JUSTICE. You can only get the justice that you can afford to pay for.
5. Prisons have become a money making proposition and has little to do with rehabilitation of at least sending people back out better then when they came in.

That brings us to your question: “Why do inmates need air conditioning?” simple things like breathing, staying alive and being able to sleep in a reasonable manner.

Why is the prison system not full of judges, lawyers, bad cops, government officials and the list goes on. Why are prisoners not set up in training programs and why are prisons not run like a military boot camp. Not because someone volunteered for it but because this would first bring the prison under control and then it would also teach the prisoners things like respect and how one must earn it because it’s not given away or sold.

YES, I think they should have AC in KY in the middle of August!

Good day and good luck
Posted by yoke on 2007-08-25:
I see what you are saying Lidman, but I get irked when people complain about conditions at prisons. The only reason you are in prison is you invited yourself by breaking the law.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-08-25:
I understand what you are saying as well and it is about 85% true. The problem is the families of the prisoners suffer as well and we the people are paying for all of this.

What do we get for money? In the end we get repeat offenders, criminal phone companies that charge more money they the families can pay for a simple phone call which leads to more crime. And if you study the system and how it really works now a day then what you find is WE pay for a system that is making tons of money and what we pay for is not what we get.

The court system has come to a place where it doesn’t matter who you are or what you have done it only matters how much money you have to buy your way out of prison and that is a fact.

We are so quick to assume that all people that are is prison are bad and that is just not true. What is true is now we are all only a court date away from becoming prisoners our self’s.

Example: If you are driving a care and you run into a pedestrian who walked in front of your car. The pedestrian dies and the only people that saw it make a judgment that it was your fault guess what, you go to jail and now you are a prisoner.

I could give you 1,000 of examples like this that can make you a prisoner just like the others. You can say from now till doomsday that you will never break the law and I say be careful what you think because it will come back to bite you.
Posted by Nohandle on 2007-08-25:
Lid, you make some very valid points; however, there are some judges, lawyers, bad cops and government officials in prison. I feel most are in those "nice", if there's such a word for prison, facilities where other than being inconvenienced for a period of time don't experience what the not so privileged do. Yes, it has to do with money and/or influence. No matter, the end result is the same. They are in prison, only a better one.

I agree, make prisoners work each and every day (like boot camp)..yet at the end of a long day's toil be given human comforts such as decent food, some ventilation/air conditioning and the opportunity to educate themselves. There will always be those so called Hard Core Criminals who will never be rehabilitated. For those, lock them up and toss the key away. They will always prey on others and I, for one, don't want them around.

Prison reform is desperately needed, I agree on that one as well. Who was it...Johnny Cash..who stated, "nothing good ever came out of a prison"? I was a victim of a crime and will be be first to say I don't have much sympathy for a criminal, for that very reason. If a prisoner could come out a changed person, for the better, it would have been worth the taxpayers' money and I support that 100 percent.

What's the solution? I suppose get politics out of the prison system. But hey, politics is a way of life now..right?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-08-25:
Nohandle, very well said and I agree 100%.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-08-25:
A good read to these questions: http://www.thelibertypapers.org/2007/04/09/were-all-criminals-now/

"The problem with his theory, and why I don’t feel the cognitive dissonance he is trying to induce, is because I don’t agree with premise 1*. There are plenty of good people who are criminals. In fact, we’re all criminals, as Ayn Rand said a long time ago:
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.
Simply put, there are so many things in this country that are illegal that I
think anyone over the age of 2 is probably a criminal. Thus, the premise that good people aren’t criminals is mistaken. Likewise, it’s converse, that criminals are bad people is also mistaken. He is trying to force people into believing that because “criminals are bad”, violating a law makes you a bad person. The problem with such an argument is that it ignores the enormous quantity of bad laws."

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