Car Dealers Complaint - Car Dealers to me are Car Stealers.
NEW JERSEY -- Ok so here is the big update as to what made ME come to this conclusion.
I have a 2006 PT Cruiser Convertible. I am 5'10''. I was never really uncomfortable in my car until my spinal injury took place in 01/2007. I need a car w/ extra leg room in the front so I can extend my legs a bit more then they already are, because driving this car causes my pinched siatica nerve to be aggrivated more since I can't extend my legs further.
Now, that was just a little background, I know car dealers do not care about that but I need certian comfort levels and features ( like cruise control which my car doesn't have ) in order for me to be able to even drive because I am in pain when I drive anymore and I can't stand that. It's not fair to me.
So, Lately I have been looking at New G6 GT's and Used Pontiacs as well, Like G6's and 03-05 Grand Am GTs. ( I want a Pontiac, can't you tell? ) These cars give me comfort when I drive so I am not in pain and I just love them a lot. I want a Used because it's more price efficent for me. Now here's the Kicker, I've been to Many Dealers and I mean MANY. Dealers from Wayne NJ all the way down to places on RT 73 by Atlantic City. Out of everyone, only 3 dealers had actually NICE employees who didn't brush me off because I was a young female ( Don't judge a book by it's cover is a good lesson to be learned kiddies. ) Even my boyfriend just bought a sweet new truck two days ago and that dealer was amazing and did it all for him, I'd go back if they had a Pontiac. All the other dealers must think I am an idiot, but I'm not. I know a lot about Pontiacs and cars in general, even to a Dealer's Suprise and I laugh when they act Suprised that I know a bit and I hate that. Just because I am a Young Girl doesn't mean I know nothing about cars.
Sorry, back to the point. So I need a new Car and I still owe on mine, I understand the de-value and neg. equity etc etc, but reguardless how you look at it, an American car is only good used because unless you paied it off in full at the moment of purchase, if you buy new, the second you drive it off the lot, the value falls about 7,000 to 7,800. So lets say you paid (with tax and charges) 22,800 for your new car that you worked them down to and you think you got a good deal....WRONG....because drive it off the lot, park it and minue 7,800 from that price and your car is worth about 15,000. Wow you still owe 22,800!!! Sure thats not the full "to the penny" amount but it's darn near close, look it up. So I still owe on my Car, and I have 39,300 miles ( SUPPOSEDLY a car of my year should only have around 29,000 but to estimate people to drive only 10,000 miles a year or 12,000, means they must have no job, no life and get a taxi everywhere, it's unrealistic to the daily driver because most people alone drive 20 to 30 miles to work one way...Point two proven, I am good ).
Ok really back to the point. I saw a 2003 Grand am GT Coupe and it had 45,077 Miles and they wanted 8,999 for it. I know that a dealer will not give me the amount I owe for my car, ( Yes I am realistic ) but I still want atleast 9,000 for my car, not a penny lower and I am willing to have the rest dropped onto the next loan for that car. Doing so would have brought that Grand Am GT to total at 13,399 and would have broke me even as well as put me in a car I can drive for my medical condition. Nope, didn't happen because they would only give me 8,500 and revoke ALL warrenties ( The used car bumper to bumper and the lifetime powertrain ) The Carfax said the car was in a front end accident but the airbags did not deploy so the car wasn't hit that bad, but still, to give me a car w/ no warranty and I don't get the asking price I want, you must be out of your mind. I had one, I know their value and what they give and get for them, once again I am not stupid. Of course I walked out on them, let the car sit on their lot and sell it to the next person that will take whatever they give them, I am not that easily pushed over. Summer and Graduation is coming so I know I can get twice that amount for my convertible if I private sold it.
Why is it that dealers are trying, or what seems to be trying, to get a free car out of me or anyone doing a trade for that matter, they take it in at an unreasonable price and sell it for five times that amount and make their profit. I understand supply and demand, and I understand companies need to make a profit too but seriously now, why can't they be a little more fair to me or the next person or just consumer friendly. I can afford a good car but I'd rather a used car, I have the right to the choice of car I want, the dealer should be happy they got my business. But they arn't because they see one walk out as a big "Who gives a darn, we'll get four more cars sold today anyway, we do not need her money."
Also, The dealers DO NOT USE Kelley Blue Book Value for the cars traded in and sold, they use this thing called Galves ( I believe it’s spelled like that, but any dealer will show you the book they used, just look at the name ). They have Three Different Books for Different years and the such. I find it FUNNY how today I went to two dealers, both about a Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe. The first Dealers Book said that My car was worth 8,200 for it’s year w/ 29,000 miles and that it was to have 100.00 deducted for every thousand miles it was over. The second dealer’s book said my car was worth 7,600 for it’s year w/ 29,000 miles and was to have 75.00 deducted for every thousand miles it’s over the 29,000 mile mark. Now you tell me, why the second dealer swore up and down that all dealers have the same book, but if that was the case how would I know that exact information? You tell me. I saw it, my boyfriend saw it with his own eyes and yet the second dealer called me a liar. Don’t believe it, they DO have different books, with the same name, JUST DIFFERENT VALUES! Don’t be fooled! Even over the summer my boyfriend and I went to a Chevy dealer that also had a Used Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe and their Galves book said my car’s value was 7,500 for it’s year at 29,000 miles and was to have 100.00 deducted for every thousand miles over that limit. I think I know that the dealers are correct they do use the same NAMED book, but I think that they have different prices and values based on how much net worth that dealer is or has, or based on how much it sells.
I guess I am supposed to be in complete pain when I drive just because I can't catch a break. Sometimes I just wish for once something would work out for me, and the next good guy or girl just like me in my situation or one similar. If I had known back in April of 2006 when I bought my Convertible that in 01/2007 I was going to hurt my spine, I might not have bought this car, but oops I forgot I can't see into the future anymore because my crystal ball broke. Sorry everyone, I am being sarcastic but I know I deserve something to work out for me too and I know dealers can do anything but they decide not to all beause of profit.
I know I will be paying my car off faster if a deal doesn't come my way. I don't want my time wasted anymore, I've had enough of that. I am so tired of this car shopping, it left such a bad taste in my mouth. I hope that someone or something good will come of this and it will save someone else the trouble I have had to go through.
The best advice I can give anyone Auto shopping is to look around and study the car you want, look at who's selling what and do not jump on the first car you see. BUY USED, you will profit more out of buying used and 9 times out of 10 you'll get the one with more options.
Don’t misunderstand me, I am not trying to throw anyone under the bus, thats why I have left all Dealer and Sales Reps name out because I am not trying to start trouble, but I plan to post this on other web sites and let people who arn’t aware of these facts, become aware that they are out there.