RipOffreport.com Informative - Reports on Rip Off Report are often false!

Posted by dan gordon on 2008-05-18:

I've also tried to respond to erroneous reports and they charge you to respond.

Posted by tnchuck100 on 2008-05-18:

Welcome to the world of internet complaint sites. Most, if not all, do not verify what is posted. All have posts that may or may not be true. Generally the complaints or reviews are the authors opinion. Not necessarily 100% factual. Most are probably are based on some facts.

I seems pretty common knowledge that money can get things removed from RipOffReport.

So, unless the post about you is slanderous, libelous, or defamatory in some way and is done with malicious intent there is not a whole lot you can do other than post a rebuttal.

Legal remedies can be time consuming, expensive, and frustrating.

Posted by Anonymous on 2008-05-18:

Chuck's right. Plus Ed has been sued so many times he can't even count them anymore. He is a worm that works off a pre-paid cell phone and has nothing in his name. Ed also edits and removes reports he does not like (usualy about him). Ed will make up a false report just to get some damage going with a company. The best part is if a person wants to clear their name he charges a huge fee to clean up the reports but only if you pay him.

Example, one day StoresOnline were the biggest crooks on the Internet, hundreds of bad reports on the ROR. They paid Ed a huge sum of money and the next day they had no bad reports and were a wonderful company to deal with.

Some scam he is running over there.

Posted by Starlord on 2008-05-19:

Maybe I am not on the same page here, but why in the world would anyone go to the trouble of posting a false report on you on a complaint site? I have never heard of you, so why would someone feel it necessary to badmouth you online?

Posted by Anonymous on 2008-05-19:

ROR fluctuates between bottom feeders, and the stuoidest postings ever read.If you want to get a bad report off the site it's easy, just write a check to Ed.

Posted by Slimjim on 2008-05-19:

All gripe sites have posts that are anyway from 100% on the money to total malicious fabrications. The problem with rip off report is you can't get them removed without a check to ed and unlike here and many other places, ROR sometimes will not post positive opinions, and that's a fact. Also, if you are complained about, there is a ceiling you can rebuttal before you get hit with a $25 charge by ED for each subsequent response. Of course, not only can the complainant keep coming back for free, but the ROR makes sure they get emailed every time it's their turn too.
It still amazes me ED hasn't been brought up on racketeering charges yet.

Posted by lobo65 on 2008-05-19:

I'd heard the same thing about Ripoffreport-that it was a bunch of bull. I don't go there any more as a result.

Posted by DebraJ on 2008-05-26:

Starlord,

I am a nobody in the grand scheme of things. When I first started using ROR, I posted under my REAL NAME. A business had one of their employees post a lie about me in retaliation. The employee admitted they posted the lie, but ROR will not remove it. My recourse would be to sue the employee who likely doesn't have any money and that would not correct the ultimate problem which is the fact that the lie is on ROR.

In response to your original question, go to ROR and you will see reports calling people pedofiles, perverts, gossippers and so forth. My report is under "BLABBER MOUTH." ROR is a site for lunatics.

Posted by DebraJ on 2008-05-26:

To Slim re: RICO charges

Some companies have sued ROR on RICO charges and sought money damages. I think ultimately it will take the Arizona US Attorney's Office or the Department of Justice to bring the RICO charges criminally, which I think is likely to happen.

Several companies have admitted to paying to have their reports removed or modified. At this point, it is just an issue of getting the Arizona US Attorney's office involved or interested in the action.

Posted by Anonymous on 2008-05-26:

Ed was feeling a lot of heat from all the law suits and some AG's hot on his heals so he moved his web site from Florida to ALKIMNET Telecommunication LTD in Ankara, Turkey. It will be more difficult to take him down now.

If you don't like something at the ROR just write ED a check, he will be happy to change it for you.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-05-26:

Slim...I've never checked out ROR...but you say they charge the company to have negative reviews removed? What stops ROR from "planting" negative reviews, just to get companies to pay them to have them removed?

Posted by Anonymous on 2008-05-26:

Nothing DB. There are dozens of web sites claiming Ed made up fake reports in order to get a company to pay up.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-05-26:

He needs to be sued for blackmail!

Posted by DebraJ on 2008-05-30:

Superbowl,

I find it hard to believe that a person living in Turkey is operating a website out of Arizona. The justice department can get jurisdiction over ED based upon the fact that he is really operating out of AZ.

I asked this question on another site:

If people have evidence of ED blackmailing them (in the forms of letters and recordings), why hasn't this information been forwarded to the Dept of Justice or the US Attorney's Office in AZ so that they can begin a RICO investigation.

Instead, these companies have just done an internet smear campaign. If there is clear evidence of blackmail, it should be easy to get the media's attn or some prosecutor's attention. I am starting to believe that he is not blackmailing the people as they claim, but just refusing to remove the reports so they are getting upset.

If someone has information that could be used against ROR criminally, SEND COPIES TO THE DEPT OF JUSTICE in WASHINGTON DC; send a copy to the US ATTORNEY'S OFFICE in Arizona.

If you all don't have anything, then stop saying it all over the internet.

Posted by lamett on 2008-10-07:

Going to another complaint board (personal opinion forum)that does not check facts to post complaints against another complaint board because it does not check facts or refuses to remove complaints.

If the complaints are false - the only legally responsible person is the one who actually posted it

Posted by lamett on 2008-10-07:

I agree with Debra J -
There is no evidence!!!!
Ed and ROR have been sued by very large businesses and have won every time for the same things ROR bashers are citing here.

The real oxymoron -

Going to another complaint board (personal opinion forum)that does not check facts to post complaints against another complaint board because it refuses to remove complaints just because the person who the was the subject of the complaint did not like it.

Then of course there is the ever popular = That ROR is actually the ones creating the complaints. It could not possibly be unhappy customers, disgruntled employees etc.



If the complaints are false - the only legally responsible person is the one who actually posted it.

Offer a business service and your scream extortion.

The reason the government is not going after ROR is there is no evidence to support these bogus claims

Posted by Sharp Knife on 2008-12-08:

Ed Magedson and Rip Off Report is so bad so bad. I dont think Ed has one redeeming value at all period. There are so many crazy flat out lies posted about businesses including ours that its laughable to read some of these. This is the National Enquire Magazine here but Ed knows no other way to generate income other than scams and extortion. Some way he has to feed that fat blubber body of his so extortion is the easy way to put a roof over his head.

I mean the volume of complaints in various venues is frightening. Hundreds of thousands of complaints about Rip Off Report yet Google promotes them

Posted by Anonymous on 2008-12-08:

Google loves money, Ed pays Google money, end of that story...

Posted by Lidsville on 2009-01-08:

There is quite a bit of bad information being thrown about here. Let’s try to get to the facts. Ed Magedson/Rip Off Report/Xcentric Ventures has not won every case. Some have settled and the terms of that are not for public consumption. Perhaps they both got tired of spending money. Who knows but they haven’t all been won. Ed would like for you to think that because in spite of his demeanor to the contrary, he doesn’t want to be sued because it will cost him money to defend. He sued the journalist of The Real Rip Off Report and the Phoenix New Times and didn’t win that. There are others.

There has been much posting about whether Ed Magedson creates his own posts. For the most part he does not but there is no doubt that he encourages others to post and that is part of the public record. There is no doubt that he feeds information for them to post so he can remain above the fray.

That said if he does this 10 times, has he set a pattern and practice of editing or creating all posts? Clearly not. The cases he has won were results of the plaintiffs not being able to prove that he took an active role in creating the material of their case. His participation in defaming others is not defaming everyone.

So far as criminal investigations? Law enforcement does have the information, much more today than they did 2 years ago. You should ask the same question about the subjects of the posts on Rip Off Report. Why haven’t they been prosecuted for all the crimes alleged against them? Because it takes compelling evidence for that to happen. So far it’s been people throwing out accusations without providing overwhelming proof. What statutes specifically have been broken?

There is quite a bit of information from all over the place that needs to be put into a clear format. The information gathered needs to show there was violation of law and it needs to be spelled out what laws have been broken. It needs to show a pattern. If that can be done effectively then a criminal conspiracy exists but that may not fit into what many scream about. So what else?

Wiretapping. There are reports that Ed Magedson tapes most if not all his phone calls. Is it legal to do that? He will tell you that he lives in a one party state, meaning only he has to give permission to tape. What about calling into two party states? That becomes federal but also under that state statute as well. There is case law from the California Supreme court that clarifies this somewhat. When you call into a two party state, both parties must give permission for a recording to take place even if you are in a one party state. Has anyone heard the mysterious death threat tapes he discusses? If not there may be a reason.

So take a sandwich to investigators and you may not get much attention. Take a feast on a silver platter and they might actually do something especially if you make their case for them, or not. Maybe they like the idea of criminals destroying each other. Maybe the courts and law enforcement need to decide what laws have been broken and not we lay people. In order for them to decide though they have to get the information. I doubt anyone here as filed a report. If you are so outraged why don’t you take your information to law enforcement? No one can complain about that.

Posted by Commenter2010 on 2009-12-03:

Here is a story that explains what is going on with rip off report and gives you a link to report the company's activity to the Department of Justice:

http://www.free-press-release.com/news-rip-off-report-ror-victims-fight-back-1259391823.html