Fast Food and Contemporary restaurants in general. Informative - Using common sense.

Review by Anonymous on 2003-12-19
With all of the ranting on this website about fast food and restaurants in general, lets take a look at something that most people haven’t shed light on. With society being in the shape it’s in today, people really have a lot of disregard for their health by entering an establishment and allowing people they do not know to prepare food for them to eat in a place where they cannot see the food being prepared. I am ready for all the usual sarcasm that goes with this site but hopefully someone will post replies that are half way intelligent. I do not nor ever have worked in a restaurant but common sense tells me a few things:

1. The majority of people who work in these establishments are young people (age 16-25). The US media (television especially) and adults in general have brainwashed these younger folks into believing the only people who are worth anything are the people who have lots of money and (in some cases) power. Most of these employees (not all) firmly believe they are above waiting on people (customers), and, sadly, they “deserve” a paycheck for doing nothing. With attitudes such as this rampantly becoming worse amongst the US youth (and yes, even youngsters from privileged families with parents who try to bestow good values and work ethics in them somehow get this in their heads too), it is no wonder there are so many complaints about “customer service” and “food quality”. I have found a simple solution: I don’t eat at any fast food establishment and that includes sit down restaurants such as Cracker Barrel, Denny’s, and Shoney’s. I have enough sense to know that by going through a drive thru to order food, I have no idea what I’ll be getting. I also have enough sense to know that if a person is a bitter individual (as so many who work in these places are), I’m certainly not going to allow them to prepare food for me. People of today are not what people of yesterday were. They don’t care. The only power we as individuals have is to choose not to frequent these places. Many people say they have no choice but to eat as places such as these. This is wrong. I pack my lunch everyday to take to work. I know the food is clean. I know who prepared it. I no longer am faced with “customer service” or “food quality” issues. The grocery business in itself is a greedy and crooked industry but the chances of getting clean food for home preparation outweighs the alternative of eating in fast food establishments.

2. The more “contemporary” restaurants such as Chili’s, Outback, and the like have the exact problems as the fast food establishments. The only thing I will ever consume in these places is draught beer. I can see the glass, I can see the bartender fill the glass, and it is more likely than not you are not going to have a problem with asking for a different glass (if you are unhappy with the one brought to you) when they have to do it in front of you with you watching.

3. I simply will not eat in a place where I can’t actually see the food being prepared. If a restaurant is really “upscale”, they will in no way have a problem showing the health inspector rating to it’s guests and, in rare requests, allow the guest to see the kitchen in which the food is being prepared. If enough people are fed up with the restaurant business, and they prepare more meals at home, the industry will suffer. People should approach this rapidly growing problem by using their brains and intelligence (some people do still have those). Any comments????????
Comments:26 Replies - Latest reply on 2007-05-09
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-19:
Here's an idea, YOU should be the one who thinks before you write. Millions of people eat millions of dollars in fast food every day. Only on rare occassions do people get sick. And how dare you say fast food people are above waiting on others. Unlike your sorry ass, they wait on people every day. And what the hell is "draught" beer? You have some mental problems you need to deal with. I'm sure you've heard that before.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-19:
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I totally agree with "The Idea King".
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-19:
I said a certain percentage of people who work in these establishments have the attitude they are above waiting on people (hence the number of complaints on this site). I really have no idea where you read anything in my original post stating people would get sick if they ate in these establishments. Oh, and I wait on people everyday...just not in a fast food place.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-19:
It would also appear that "The Idea King" has mixed emotions when it comes to fast food:

"The Idea King (12/15/2003)
Here's an idea -- don't mumble stuff under your breath to food workers. They have the power to poison you and they're just dumb enough to actually do it. ... "

This is from another thread on a fast food restaurant.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-19:
Your generalization of the casual and fast food industries seems quite reasonable but I must tell you that there are also a large number of restaurants in these fields that are successful largely in part because they do hire and retain employees who actually do give a care about being on the job.

The main problem in this industry often lies with management in these types of restaurants. In many cases they are either poorly trained, unqualified, or do not have the experience to be hiring and maintaining employees the way the company requires and therefore the wrong people are being selected. It is easier said than done, but quality employees are out there. It takes careful selection to pick the right ones who will benefit your business. The lazy teenagers can be spotted a mile away. It is ultimately up to management to create a healthy work environment.

These days too many people are demanding, ignorant and impatient. Yet many feel they still deserve respect because they have cash in their hand. There are far too many of those out there who feel they are above everybody else, including the minimum wage workers who have no choice but to deal with them. It is often the lack of respect that the public has for these workers which makes it so challenging to keep employees motivated to return the favor.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-19:
I agree 100%. Juast becuase you are a paying customer DOES NOT give you the right to belittle an employee. I do however feel that an employee should at least put forth the effort to make a customer's visit as pleasant as possible. When I did frequent fast food establishments and an employee lookied bored or as if I was putting them out upon taking my order, I would simply smile and say "no thanks" and leave. Problem solved.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-30:
Speaking from someone who works in fast food, your comments are made mostly up from your own self-assumption. I take a great deal of time preparing the food I am serving to guests, because I know that someone else is going to be judging my work, and that they will be consuming food that I made. I am responsible for them in a way. And to add, you right, I am 17 and I have been brain washed, to be a hard worker. I come up with ideas all the time to improve the effectiveness and productivity of my work place to better suit my co-workers and my customers. I have memorized the entire list of health codes partaining to food handling and prepartion, and practice them vigorously on a daily basis. The fact that you judge so harshly leads to your inept ability to trust someone else to prepare your food. But, what's to complain about? It's one less sucky customer I'll have to deal with.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-30:
As stated above, I was not talking about ALL employees of these establishments. However, the bad ones outweigh the good in most of these places.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-30:
You really sound like you don't know how to do anything but complain. You sound so paranoid, that I wonder if you belong to the tinfoil hat brigade...

I have never been afraid of getting sick just because I could not see the food being prepared. Really, I kinda like it that they keep the grill and food prep area away from the dining area, because of the heat, grease spatters, and other stuff, not to mention the cleaning chemicals usually used in cleaning the dining area can be dangerous to use around high heat or open flames.

if you're that paranoid...don't eat out! save the workers one less a-hole to deal with.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-31:
you do realize that you cannot have food prepared near your dining veterans except in teppanyaki style restaurants? Not only is it a health code violation, but by doing so you are only increasing the risk of food contamination. We have reasons for keeping the cooking area away from the dining area and it is best to respect that lest you want to wind up catching something.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-31:
I have complained about nothing, only stated what I perceive as facts. I have found this quite amazing that people are very fast to say I'm paranoid and an a**hole just because I don't eat in these establishments and have provided a good reason why.
Posted by Anonymous on 2003-12-31:
Don't be amazed, Original Poster. You'll get all kinds of inapropriate responses when you share letters here. It's obviously not controlled and you can say basically anything you want and get away with it. You'll get the good mixed with the bad when it is this easy to post comments. Some of the things people submit here are ridiculous and are ruining it for others.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-02:
"I simply will not eat in a place where I can’t actually see the food being prepared. If a restaurant is really “upscale”, they will in no way have a problem showing the health inspector rating to it’s guests and, in rare requests, allow the guest to see the kitchen in which the food is being prepared. If enough people are fed up with the restaurant business, and they prepare more meals at home, the industry will suffer."-Original poster

This whole thread is just tying itself in a knot, let me straigten it out. As you said, you won't eat any place where you cannot see the food being made, right? As I said, most restaurants have to keep the food preparation area away from guests ( and vise versa) to avoid contamination. That would vaguely point out then that you don't eat out much, and created a whole thread to tell people you don't eat out which is irrelevant. What is relevant is that you lied in your response, "I am not complaining", then what is all this about the poor-quality fast food industry then? I'd call that complaining! Also, restaurants and dining establishments must provide the health report to patrons upon request, so if they don't then just report them, however, if it often proves to waste only time, had the health report been serious enough that by dining there you would become ill, then they would just close the place down all together. And as an ironic twist to what Wendy_Vet said, 'there is alot of pointless bull on here', in this case it is this thread, it can't be any of these replies since none of them would have been written if this fool didn't bother posting his version of "the fast food industry is made up of bad, nasty people who have nothing better to do then try and poison me but I'm to smart for them!".
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-02:
"""""I can see the glass, I can see the bartender fill the glass""""" >>>>how ya know the bartender didnt stick his dick in the glass when he saw your skinny arse com in?
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-02:
Oh I forgot to add one thing. Sadly, there is no way the general public will ever wean themselves off of fast food. It takes them far to much time to try and prepare their own meals, or they just don't want too. We're never going to go away, never. Out-of-home-dining will be here till the day you and I die.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-03:
Say what you will but I have stated facts on this thread. I find it quite hilarious that you speak for every other person in this country by stating EVERYONE does like like preparing meals at home. You can continue to eat where you like and I'll do the same. And to above poster who asked the disgusting question about the d*ck in the glass, a loser such as yourself probably works in one of these places and will never get out of the minimum wage bracket...........another good reason to stay away from these places.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-03:
Oh, one more thing.......I'm not saying I want restaurants to go away. I know that will never happen. I don't think everyone is trying to poison me (or anyone) either. I just know the "majority" of people who work in these places are young and most have a holier than thou attitude and would think something like putting something in someone's food would be funny. Not all, but a lot.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-03:
And pardon me "silly drunk"......are you from the UK? The way you spelled "arse" would indicate you are. The way you people eat fish in rolled up news papers is the cleanest thing I've heard of. How do you know I'm skinny? Perhaps you are quite fat from eating too much fast food. So unless you have something intelligent to say, go back to your tea and crumpets..........and rolled up newspapers full of fish.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-04:
You had me on your side until you decided to generalize British people like that, Original Poster as I am from the U.K. It doesn't really bother me that you said what you did as my homeland is not the leading nation in obesity and heart disease. It's ignorant of you to trash a society that you clearly don't know enough about just because you disliked someone else's response. Flame away.............Or better yet, don't post anymore.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-04:
What the "silly drunk" poster wrote was far more disgusting than anything I have written.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-04:
This will be my final post. It's obvious people really get upset when someone suggests destroying what everyone complains about yet can't imagine what they complain about being gone. The title of this thread is "using common sense"; if something, such as restaurants, makes you angry enough to take the time to post your anger on a message board, take that something completely out of your life...that is common sense. If it's gone, so is what made you angry in the first place. Case closed.
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-04:
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-01-05:
Wendy's Vet: it doesn't sound like you have a lot of respect for your home country by defending the likes of "Silly Drunk"
Posted by weeb on 2004-09-10:
Just for your info, The restarant buisiness is not minimum wage. Those people probobly make more $ than you, work alot harder for it, as well. If you act like a nice person when you go out to eat, no one would have a reason to want to contaminate your food. Maybe you have it mixed up, obviously you think you are ?ABOVE? someone, not the other way around. P.S. whats up with the "?"?Have a nice day....
Posted by spiderman47 on 2006-11-22:
from reading all of these post I would say that both of you are half correct,of course who is more correct than who? I don't know but I know peoplewill be people &
you can't control where they eat or how much money they spend,it's their choice,they have a right to eat or not
eat at restaurantsetc,etc,etc, but somewhere down the line
you would think that common sense will play an important role in a person's life,still who are we to judge, if that's the case,which this is not.
Posted by Starlord on 2007-05-09:
I don't know where OP lives, but here in Arizona, restaurants are inspected by the Health Dept. regularly, and are required by law to post the rating given by the health inspector. As far as wanting to see your food prepared, trust me, you do NOT want to watch your food being fixed. Food preparation is an exacting chore, but it is not pretty. The closest to what would be a place you might eat is Steak and Shake, whose motto is "In Sight, It Must be Right." To the person who sniped at the British serving of fish and chips in newspaper, let me point out to you that in EMT training on field childbirth, it is recommended to obtain a new newspaper to wrap the baby in. From the time the newsprint (paper) is made and spooled onto the huge rolls until you open it to read it, newsprint is untouched by human hands and is sterile. The ink is soy based and is totally non-toxic. In addition, paper is an excellent insulator, to hold the baby's body warmth in. I would prefer to eat fish and chips wrapped in newspaper than to eat a Big Mac prepared by a girl who was constantly wiping her nose with her wrist at an average pace of 6 times per sandwich. I worked for a Burger Chef and a Frisch's Big Boy, and my wife and I ran a hot dog stand where we served hot dogs and sausages smoked over a slow mesquite fire, and I would not want you eating at any of them. I was an excellent food service person, and had enough of people like yougive me problems. Like the guy who said his smoked sausage sandwich was too cold, but gladly took another one AFTER eating the one that was 'inedible.'

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