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Autumn Lakes Complaint - The apartments are filthy, they are infested with roaches.

Review by kmorris on 2008-10-20
HOUSTON, TEXAS -- I havw been living in this apartment for 50 days and on day 5 of my lease I complained to the manager about roaches and she promised to have someone come out and bomb it for us, it never happened. The exterminator comes ever Thursday and he has only been there once. I went in again and talked to the assistant manager about roaches again, and she informed me that the apartment located directly behind was infested with roaches. Therefore, I have not paid my rent because I feel that I am paying for roaches, that wasn't in the contract. We have asked for another apartment,which is all we want but she refuses to do so. We are in a two bedroom and my kids are afraid to go to the bathroom at night because the bathroom near the kitchen is filled with roaches. I just think that if I have to pay that much for rent I should be able to live comfortable. That is all I want, another apartment and I would not have a problem paying the rent. The managers should be able to handle this situation better than this.
Comments:48 Replies - Latest reply on 2008-10-21
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-20:
The local municipal health department would be interested in this..
BTW.. (Bombing) the apartment is the WORST thing you can do because the pyrethrin content of the aerosol simply moves and disturbs the roaches.. the ones that are sheltered in the walls are home free...the exterminator needs to treat the WHOLE building with Gelatin baits..
several conciencious treatments will take care of the problem but spraying and "bombing " won't do the job..

For what it's worth, take this to the manager and note that this comes from someone who spent 30 years in the pest control business in Florida, New Jersey and Michigan.. I know whereof I speak..
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-10-20:
You may also want to post your complaint on apartmentratings.com. I do not know the legalities on refusing to pay rent, but I believe if they do not exterminate as they should you can hire your own and deduct that amount from the rent. You may want to consider contacting the housing authority in your city/state to find out what the rules are.
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-20:
True John... I would guess that the pest control guy is just walking around spraying baseboards..
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-20:
Moving to another apartment won't help. If you have them in your apartment...you can bet everyone in the building has them as well. You can file a complaint and pay your rent through "Rent Escrow"...that way, you are paying your rent but it is held until the problem is taken care of. If the owner wants the rent, they have to make the improvements before the Escrow will release the money to them....here is a link that explains what to do....it's for your protection.

http://www.peoples-law.org/housing/ltenant/rent_escrow_LAB_book/live%20like%20this.htm

It's for Maryland laws, but every State has Rent Escrow and this explains the basic steps to take.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-20:
If and when you do move...you have to be very careful you don't carry the roaches in the boxes with you. Be sure every little opening and crack in the box is taped tightly.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-10-20:
Perhaps OF can verify this. I once had a roach problem which the exterminator traced to a HUGE roach problem at a public school across the street from my house. He said roach infestations can migrate several hundred yards. Unless the large infestation is killed, it's hard to kill the migrant roaches.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-20:
I heard the same thing. In fact there was a news report of a woman who lived in filth and the city condemned her home...when they started to bulldoze the home, THOUSANDS of roaches scattered all over the neighborhood and the news cameraman showed a view of the wooden fence between that house and the neighbor's house and the fence actually looked like it came to life, that's how many roaches took off running up over that fence! It looked like some kind of Stephen King movie.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-10-20:
oh DB, that is a disgusting story. How can a person live that way. I think I would freak out if I saw even one roach. Where there is one, there are sooooo many more. YUCK!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
Yup...seeing that video clip gave me the creepy-crawlies for sure...I felt so sorry for the neighbors. I mean, when they started to tear that house down, the camera man showed a shot of the lawn and it was just crawling full of them...my reaction while watching that news report could have won an award in itself.
Posted by yoke on 2008-10-21:
When we lived in military housing in San Diego they were infested with roaches. It was nasty. The neighbor on the other side of us had the problem so we got them also. When we moved we threw away alot of stuff that we were afraid would have roaches in them. Once we moved we never had or saw a roach again.
Posted by Mrs. V on 2008-10-21:
If I even see one bug in the house I go nuts >_<

Out comes the spray cans and bug baits (drives my DH nuts). We have a huge colony of ants under my rose bushes and it's driving me crazy. I look like I'm going to war every time I go out to clip my roses :P
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
You and me both, Mrs. V!
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
Doc and Basher... I have never heard or seen a roach infestation travel freely several hundred yards... that is an old wive's tale... it IS possible to Carry roaches that far and that is most likely that happened... in densely pack "tenement " situations there is the possibility of going from house to house.
I have seen houses where the walls and ceiling were literally black with teeming masses of roaches....
Those jobs were fun to do...
I really got a kick out of seeing them fall and scatter by the thousands...

It was like seeing an EXPLOSION of bugs...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
The EXPLOSION you speak of is what was shown on the local NEWS when they tore that house down. Not to mention the rats.
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
As an aside...when you see roaches run when you turn on the light in your kitchen, it's not the light that jump starts them, it's the sound of the light switch... they are incredibly sensitive to vibration... when you see them all clumped together in daylight, it's because they have no more places to hide, I.e. cracks and crevices..

Roaches feel most secure when they can feel light pressure on their backs and bellies which is what a crack or crevice provides...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
Yeah, well they will feel more than a LIGHT pressure on their backs when my foot comes down on them! And if they are sensitive to vibration, they'd all die a quick death with a heart attack if they heard me scream as I entered a room where they were...they'd never have a chance to run, they'd just drop dead right there.
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
In the business a super bad roach infestation is what's known as " a rainer".. like it's raining roaches...
Most pest control guys have strong stomachs and the "Killer
instinct"...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
I think we've heard quite enough out of you on this subject, Old F! Isn't it time for your nap?????
Posted by Mrs. V on 2008-10-21:
...I just lost my appetite....

Thanks Old F. I'm off to give my grilled cheese to my cats now >_<
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
Actually roaches are our friends... they speed up the decomposition of the detritus on the forest floor..When they get in our homes they are simply a bug out of place..

If it weren't for roaches we'd be up to our a$$es in dead leaves and crud...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
Mrs. V...I just sat down with my Grilled Cheese sammie! LOL!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
Old F...would YOU live comfortably with them in your home? Are they welcomed to your house for Thanksgiving?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
I could NEVER be married to an exterminator...I would always think he's coming into the house with a roach that got into his pocket or something...and I wouldn't allow him in my kitchen because I would just not think he can wash his hands good enough...so all of you exterminators out there...you can breathe easily, knowing the Basher does NOT have you in her "eligable" radar! LOL!
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
I would hate to think what Missus OF would have said if I had brought them home from some tenement in Newark N.J.

I learned early in my career to check my shoes and pockets before I came home...
Posted by Mrs. V on 2008-10-21:
Great minds (and tummys) think alike, DB ^_^
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
Wearing slacks without cuffs was important and when I did a job I always used rubber bands around my ankles to prevent roaches from running up my legs..
Doing a jig, trying to shake a roach loose looks pretty darn funny...
Posted by Mrs. V on 2008-10-21:
Old F. For the love of us all, pretty please, with ice cream and a cherry on top, NO MORE!

pleasepleaseplease *wimper*

First no lunch, now I want another shower :(
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
But why Old F? They are YOUR friends! *Mocking his statements in an annoying voice* ... Why would you not welcome your 'friends' into your house?
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
speaking of lunch, I'm getting hungry...there's a chicken salad sandwich with my name on it.. see ya later..
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
Watch out for that extra crunch...LOL!
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
I could always tell.. they have a "musty" taste...it must have been something they ate...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
I won't ask how you would know this.
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
Actually that is a natural defense.. other insects don't like to eat them for that reason...
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
I did once on more or less of a bet...it was an american roach... German roaches taste like what they eat..
I never had the guts to try an oriental roach because they are perfectly happy eating raw sewage...

Like I said before, they are nature's little recyclers.....
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
Someone on TV said they had a roach problem and they bought two iguanas or lizards or something like that...and dropped them between the walls and they said they heard them munching and crunching all the roaches in the walls...ewwwwwwwww, imagine hearing that in your walls all night...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
You ate a Roach, and Mrs. Old F still kissed you? Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
My sandwich is calling.. see ya....
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
I forgot... lizards are one of the few things that will eat a roach..the only problem with that is soon enough you will probably have an infestation of lizards...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
I'd rather have lizards than roaches!
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
Here's an interesting tidbit...
Adult female german roaches normlly drop 6 to 8 egg capsules in their life time.
Each capsule contains 35 to 40 baby roaches, (nymphs) which, when the capsule ruptures, allows the little ones to scramble into the first available crack or crevice...
The little ones stay hidden while they develop feeding on the adult roach's droppings for sustenence..
Putting a less glamorous spin on it, the babies eat adult roach poop...A really severe infestation is marked by the visible presence of the babies because they have been forced out into the open because of overcrowding...

If the food supply gets desperately low, the adults will feed on the babies...

Everything you wanted to know about roaches but were afraid to ask.....
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
As you can probably guess, this is a subject dear to my heart because roaches have fed me and my family for 30 years....
Posted by jenjenn on 2008-10-21:
I have never seen a roach in my life. I am happy for that. LOL.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-10-21:
I don't know whats worse,roaches or those potato bugs
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
Steve, do your potato bugs look like a big cricket or a little grey armadillo..?
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-10-21:
they kinda look like a cricket
Posted by old fart on 2008-10-21:
That is a JERULSALEM CRICKET... aren't you glad you asked?

BTW.. another tidbit, termites are a very primitive variety of cockroach... a wood eating cockroach..
If it weren't for termites, we'd be up to our bagungas in dead trees...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-10-21:
I HATE Armadillos...they are so ugly they have no right to be on this planet!!!
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-10-21:
I posted a pic of it OldF in the forums...freaky little things

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