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Glucometer Makers And Distributors Complaint - Commercials Giving Bad Information

Review by Starlord on 2008-11-13
I am going to apologize now to my friends in M3C, because this is an unabashed rant about something that is a pet peeve of mine. Since being diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes in 1997, I have conducted from one to four fingersticks daily to monitor my blood glucose level, an important part of maintaining my health and managing an insidious disease. I see commercials for various glucose monitors, and it seems that lately, the makers and distributors seem to be locked into making people think that the process of obtaining a blood sample for testing is unbearable. I am sure you have all seen the ads. They have some old biddie who looks like it hurts to think, crying about how their fingers hurt so badly. In one commercial, the purport to show a finger stick being done.

As Jamie Hyneman of MythBusters says, "Well, there's your problem." The stick they show being performed is exactly what diabetes educators tell you NOT to do, lancing the friction pad of the finger. That is where the nerve endings are concentrated, to provide you maximum sense of touch in your fingertips. Then they talk about alternate testing sites, like the forearm or palm of the hand. Number one, if you lance the side of the finger, you do not run into nearly as many nerve endings.

I often cannot tell if the lance has been successful until I apply pressure and see the blood drop. Heck, I hurt myself worse shaving than I do with a lancet device. One thing these hawkers for alternate site testing do not tell you, but a diabetes educator does, is that the alternate sites are not as accurate as the reading you get from the fingers. Why, I don't know, but I am sure na educator knows why. When my mother was diabetic, and I was a kid, she had lancets that were modified razor blades, and you did use your fingertips. From testing in science class, I know those hurt like the dickens.

Now, however, lancets are like very fine needles, and the lancet device fires the lancet so quickly, there is no time to really feel pain. If you test for diabetes, use the lancet and device properly, and you will have an accurate, almost totally pain-free experience. Don't be persuaded by some old lady crying about how bad her fingers hurt. Now, my doctor has me giving myself one injection a day of insulin, a new philosophy of treatment that works better than the old threatening you with insulin. I use a 30 gauge needle that is one half inch in length, and I barely feel it. I can tell you, the needle penetrates a lot deeper than the lancet. Properly performed, a finger stick is not the horrible experience those old women seem to think it is. They are probably sticking the friction pad of their fingers.

Using the side of the finger, you have twenty general locations to test with, ten fingers and two sides to each finger. To the models they use in those commercials, quit lying to people and get a job advertising cookies or something else.
Comments:60 Replies - Latest reply on 2008-11-14
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
Dad's always pricked the side of his finger when he checks his sugars. I've never seen or heard him scream in pain or say it hurt. Right on the side of his left index finger. Gets his blood drop, puts it in the machine, he's good to go. If people are seriously hurting themselves from this, well, I won't go there.
Posted by Mrs. V on 2008-11-13:
My husband faints at the sight of needles.

When he learned that he had to do multiple testing because of his type II diabetes, he kept stateing that it was going to hurt. That he wasn't going to be able to do his job anymore (types all day). He kept seeing those dang ads on TV and was more and more reluctant to do any of the needed testing.

As a nurse I had to show him how to do the testing, and that if done right, it really doesn't hurt.

I, too, *really* hate those ads >_<
Posted by cherpep on 2008-11-13:
During my first pregnancy, I had to test my blood sugar daily for the last couple of months. Nobody told me about the side of the finger thing!! I tested using the pad of the finger, just like the nurse demonstrated. I gotta tell ya, it hurt. It wasn't anything I couldn't take, but my finger did get sore. I was happy to give that up when my son was delivered.

Now, do me a real favor, and tell me how to insert the dialysis needles so they don't hurt, LOL!
Posted by Mrs. V on 2008-11-13:
Cherperp, Do you use a topical first before inserting the needle? Emla (AstraZeneca) is a topical. Comes in a cream or patch. It is prescription.
Posted by cherpep on 2008-11-13:
Honestly, that was just a joke. But, no, I do not use the cream. The cream numbs the skin, but then I also can't feel the access as much and lose some control over the insertion. It's too easy then to infiltrate, and I'd rather have the pain of the needle then the pain of the infiltration.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2008-11-13:
I agree with you 100%, Starlord. The finger pick is no big deal. I've been doing it for 6 years.

The ad I find the most annoying is the one where they claim it speaks to you and therefor insures accuracy. Give me a break, speak or not speak...it has absolutely nothing to do with the accuracy of the meter. On the other hand what if the display says one thing and it speaks a different number? Average the two? Forgive me. I was trying to emulate the stupidity of the ad.

One more thing. How do these test strip manufactures justify almost a dollar per test strip? (Mine are $85.00 per 100) I'm guessing they manufacture them at 3 for one cent. Greed. Just plain greed!
Posted by Mrs. V on 2008-11-13:
Cherp, Sorry >_< I can be a bit literal with medical things :P
Posted by cherpep on 2008-11-13:
S'all right. ;) I thought it was nice of you to suggest it.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-11-13:
good post, thanks for the info
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Thanks for the info...it's just like those infomercials where they make everything look so hard...like slicing a tomato and at the same time they squeeze it to make it squish all over and say it's because of the dull knife...or opening a plastic container and having everything fly out all over the place.
Thankfully, I don't have to have these kinds of test done, but I knew it wasn't that bad when I seen it on TV.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Wait a minute...this review is not on the front page either...mine isn't on there, this one isn't on there...there must be some kind of glitch in the system.
Of course, Princi tip-toed into the back door on this one too...well, at least we can follow her around on the new threads when we see her comments on the "What's going on" page.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
DB -- I distinctly see yours on the front page, and Starlord's on the second page.
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
It's the twilight review zone. Doo doo doo.....
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-11-13:
there are a lot of glitches in the system lately. like the community forums not coming up in it's entirety 'bout 1/2 the time.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
Jkt, I'm not having that issue, at all.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Clicking on a comment on the "What's going on" page and being directed to the wrong thread...or no thread at all. Comments showing up twice on the "What's going on" page, but only once on the threads...yeah...It's Bipolar's fault!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
MissMarple...I just checked again and I don't see mine on the first OR second page...I do see this one on the second page though.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Ok perfect example right now...on the What's going on Page, you will see:
"covehaven7 (11/13/2008)
Its too bad you are Wachovia Reps and too ignorant,infantile and nasty just like Wachovia to understan ANYTHING!

...posted TWICE, but when you go to that thread, it's only on there once! I KNOW IT'S NOT MY EYES!
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
Here's another weird one, why are all the comments on the What's going on Page all the way to the right, so far to the right they are almost hiding behind the whose online list? Is anyone else having that problem?
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
^^^ Yet again, I don't see this at all. Everything looks fine to me.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
I found me! I'm on the front page....NOW!
Posted by cherpep on 2008-11-13:
I'm not having any problems either, MM. Everything looks good. DB, have you been into the Sweettarts again?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Ok...here's another one just posted by Old F...I'm gonna copy and paste it just as it is on the "What's going On" page...if you notice, one has a time, but he dupicate one doesn't!

You're probably right diane.. I have Visa and Master cards from 3 companies and I imagine that those pirates sold my info to this slimeball company...I just wish I could identify these a$$wipes.......
Posted in General Topics by old fart - Today at :

You're probably right diane.. I have Visa and Master cards from 3 companies and I imagine that those pirates sold my info to this slimeball company...I just wish I could identify these a$$wipes.......
Posted in General Topics by old fart - Today at 8:20
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
No Cherpep...but I just drank 32 oz. of Tomato juice in 10 mintues.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-11-13:
I hope you had some vodka and other ingredients, along with a celery stalk to spice it up!
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
Excellent post and info as always Starlord.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
DB--I think they're (admin) messing with you, lol.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
No JKT...I just added some salt and pepper and drank it on the rocks.

Diane...I think YOU GUYS are the ones messin' with me!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
L@@K AGAIN....

I still think blowing a rape whistle into the phone is so much easier. Or you could have a Fred recording that plays to whoever is on the other end.....
Posted in General Topics by DigitalCommando - Today at 8:45

I still think blowing a rape whistle into the phone is so much easier. Or you could have a Fred recording that plays to whoever is on the other end.....
Posted in General Topics by DigitalCommando - Today at :
Posted by DigitalCommando on 2008-11-13:
DB, Iz U trippin woman? wrong post
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-11-13:
well that's not healthy..you need to add the alcohol to get rid of the bad stuff in the tomato juice.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
GRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-11-13:
The rape whistle is a great idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
JKT...that was a comment by DC...it appeared twice, just like that on the "What's going on page" but only appeared once on the review!
Posted by DigitalCommando on 2008-11-13:
Thanks Jkt, and to think that all this time I have been poking my eyeballs for a sample. They really should have a commercial showing Freddiy with his chain saw amputating his wrist off and the dabbing it with a strip. "But with OUR product......"
Posted by jktshff1 on 2008-11-13:
LMAO!!!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
SIFFER! You KNOW THAT comment isn't gonna last five seconds!
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
Interesting....
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
Wow, DB is psychic!! It really didn't last 5 seconds..... What color jammies am I wearing DB?
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
Yeah DB, am I wearing pants?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Princi...they are pink with little red thingies on them.
C2O...you're not wearing pants but I see your Spiderman Underoos!
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
HAHA! Well I am wearing a pink happy bunny top. It's got a little bunny that says "Plotting Revenge is Fun". And I'm wearing black fleece pants with cupcakes on them. And my undies have spongebob on them. I wore my spiderman fundies yesterday.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Wow...I wondered why your hubby worked this shift...now we know! LOL!
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
You're all over the board there Princi!
I'm going commando DB, so you are WRONG! lol!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Sorry Commando...I guess I missed the salute!
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
LOL!

Yea C2O I try to keep things abnormal mostly. Why have one when you can mix it together and have it all in one bite?
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
Did you know that you can tell age by counting the rings on a stump?
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
Why yes, I did.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
I'm still wearing my summer nightie...my nighties seem to disappear or something...I had a warmer one for this kind of weather...couldn't find it...bought two new ones a month ago...can't find those. So, summer nightie it is...
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Not those kind of rings on that kind of stump!
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
DB I swear the sock monster is stealing my night shirts!! I had two really comfy night shirts and I can't find either of them! Put them in the washer, put them in the dryer, and now they're gone. Stupid sock monster. Betcha he's laughing at me right now wearing my shirts.
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
Wait, so we aren't talking about trees then right? I'm confused. DB pass me some sweettarts please, C2O's got me confused.
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
I thought the sock monster only took socks?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Here ya go Princi....wait, here's another handful, since we ARE dealing with C2O!
Posted by Principissa on 2008-11-13:
Thank you!! Whew, I needed that.

So did I. I tore my room apart looking for those night shirts and I cannot find them. I even check both kids rooms. I betcha he took your stuff too. Either that or Matilda did it. She is spiteful.
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
I really want to stick to the subject here 'moderately'...
DB, with your psychic abilities are you able to count rings through a sock?
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
Sorry...but that's NOT the subject!
Posted by DebtorBasher on 2008-11-13:
opps...sorry Starlord...I thought we were posting on the community boards...geeesh...I'm lost even on here!
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-11-13:
Oh, you're right. I'm sorry too. My comment on the subject got removed and threw me all of course.
Posted by Starlord on 2008-11-14:
Thank you, Super. DB, we love ya. Everyone is like family to us.

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