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Alvord Unified School District-Villages Middle School Complaint - Riverside, California

Review by LEXI_1 on 2009-09-17
RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA -- Just to make any and all parents aware:
(I wrote the school district. They responded, school district PHONE'S the schools on the HOT days and give notice for the children not to go on the black top, mind you that is a LIE! I was there.)

Dear Alvord USD,
I'm writing as more then a concerned parent. Due to the constant start date change we are bringing our children to school in hotter conditions. Due to these changes, other policy MUST change as well.

I'm requesting the Athletic/ PE department changes the policy about our children daily activities on the black top.

A black top surface absorbs the sun, making the black top hotter then the actual temperature, I do not believe this is an appropriate temperature for my child to do push ups!!!!! For that matter, sit on or stand for any long period of time. This is cruel and unthought of, who would think a school would change start dates without considering changing other policy to accommodate there changes and weather conditions?

Our children were out on Friday and it was 100 degrees!
Comments:41 Replies - Latest reply on 2009-09-19
Posted by Diabolical on 2009-09-17:
That would NOT fly with me! I would march right in and talk to the gym instructor.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
The educators of the school would probably tend to listen more if you talked to them in person rather than a letter. But, it's a step in the right direction.
Good luck to you.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Seems logical to me. As a parent, can't you just say that your child will not be participating in PE on the blacktop, and that's the end of it?
Posted by MSCANTBEWRONG on 2009-09-18:
That's almost child endangerment. There are too many kids dying of heat exposure during extreneous activities in extreme heat and add the blacktop to it the heat is just more intense. I would talk directly with the school. Do they have PTA meetings? If so, bring it up at the meeting and more parents will have an opportunity to voice their concerns and opinions as a group as well.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
How did we kids survive back in the day? I've never heard of such a thing. Good luck.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-09-18:
Home school and you won't have to worry about it.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Posted by Fufu487 on 2009-09-18:
I remember playing out in extreme heat over the black pavement. Even with bare feet, barely wore sunscreen ever.... Is it me or do we live in a fragile fragile world now???
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
You got it!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
good grief! get down there in person at once.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Fufu, I too remember being outside in the heat and we did just fine. Our parents tossed us outside to play everyday. we drank lots of water but never had a problem. Kids are being weakened by parents. They are not allowing their children to adapt to hot or cold, so they get sick faster then we did. My kids played outside too, and would think you are crazy for this complaint.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
The only time we were kept indoors at school were on rainy days and when there was a smog warning. Heat didn't keep us inside. There was plenty of shade and lots of water.
Posted by Mario The Great on 2009-09-18:
Wow, not a day passed by when I didn't eat a lead filled paint chip. Man, those were the days! We've become such a soft society. No wonder we are the most obese country in the world.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Drank tap water and from the garden hose as well.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Mario, you got it. Too many 'that is bad for you' blah blah blah. Kids don't play outside anymore. Mommy lets them veg in front of the TV, game system, or computer so much that little Susie can't take the heat.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
LOL we did too ZZ. You know there was plenty of stuff growing in that garden hose, and we are still alive.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Picked up garden snakes and kissed their cute little faces.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Okay, ladyscot. I draw the line at kissing snakes. hahahaha
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
I hear you John, the now banned thick, black carcinagen laden hoses had the BEST and coldest water! I kid you not.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Isn't it interesting, though, how this same generation of people - careless youth and all - essentially grew up to be the over cautious pack?

One thing I remember in my "careless youth days," is the blacktop and how hot it got in N.C. I don't remember blacktop surfaces at school, other than perhaps an outdoor basketball court. But crossing the street barefoot to my house - wow! that was something! I can't imagine playing on the street (barefoot) for any length of time. Then again, with shoes, we didn't care. Now I'm starting to wonder about the OP's concern - would her kids be barefoot? (Sorry to be thinking about this as I type...)
Posted by MSCANTBEWRONG on 2009-09-18:
I did all those things too and did just fine. But in today's society with the way some parents coddle their kids I say safety first. My kids went outside after breakfast, didn't come in until lunch and again didn't come in until dinner. I don't worry about them cuz their used to all weather types. But other children who aren't acclimated to the climates need to be protected. No sense in a child dying.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
MS, that is the point. Parents coddle their kids then expect everyone else to do the same. Why should a class full of kids who are used to hot weather have to stay inside because Susies mommy thinks it is too hot? Kids need to get out form under the games and tv and computer.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
before ya'll criticize lexi 1 too much, read up on what these blacktop surfaces schools are using now are made of.

many schools have changed over to a soft, rubberized version for both the track and the playground. they become *very* hot in direct sunlight and high temps. Idk 'bout ya'll, but when I was a youngster we had dirt playgrounds and some sort of a red clay track, neither which got too hot.

lexi 1 has a valid concern. and I'm certain it doesn't have anything to do with her kids being obese.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
When I was a kid we had the good old tar black top.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
MY schools had BLACK ASPHALT oosing with molten hot tar on those hot days especially when it was freshly repaved.
Speak what you know, James.
Safety first but............
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
yea, but did you have to do pushups on it, zzrokk?

well, didja?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
".....when I was a youngster we had dirt playgrounds..."
(James' front yard)
Posted by LEXI_1 on 2009-09-18:
Oh Boy! Please get out of the 60's and we wonder why so many people DIE of Cancer today! If they were so smart "back then", beating children and GOD knows much worse! If you were allowed to go out and get burnt....woohoo for you, ya wanna cookie? I'm so sorry YOUR Parents were uneducated and unaware of the harm of exposure to extreme conditions!
My Mother is a well educated Registered Nurse and has been for 40 years, she has always protected us.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
oh yea, what of it, zz? least I had a yard to come home to and didn't have to go *squat* at my neighbors over on the other side of the tracks!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
So was mine, Lexi (an RN)!
*laughing* Typical!!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Lex, that explains why WE and our kids can handle the heat and YOU and your kids can't. WE are acclimated to it.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
King, Lexi has come to us in her time of need so stop with your juvenile quips and lets get back to what we are here for! Helping Lexi!!

Lexi, can I get you a Latte or something? An ice cold bottle of water maybe?
Posted by LEXI_1 on 2009-09-18:
Nevertheless, heres a Glass Of Ice Cold Milk to go with those Cookies! ~Smiling Always~
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
lexi 1, stick around m3c's. we could use more members with your spunky attitude.

not only that but I need all the help I can get keepin' zz in tow around here.
Posted by LEXI_1 on 2009-09-18:
Last I checked.... didn't ask for any HELP! I'm fully capable of "helping" myself, Thank You.
Oh and by the way I take my Coffee Black, Soldiers don't drink Lattes.
"SOFT" ~ LOL, U Wish!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Posted by LEXI_1 on 2009-09-18:
NOPE! ;)
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-18:
Coming up!
Posted by Nohandle on 2009-09-18:
Lexi, I have no bone to pick with you and understand your concern for your child. In this area there was a parent complaining his child was allowed to go outside at school with no additional suncreen and felt each teacher should be responsible for applying sunscreen to each student if he was allowed outside during school hours. It got to be a joke around here. Not the danger of skin cancer, because of sun exposure, but the demands made on the local school systems.

I don't know how your school system works but surely you can request your child not go outside if you feel there is a danger for his safety anywhere.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-19:
And you are a soldier? I will say nothing else except...WHAT?!

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