Procter & Gamble Complaint - Charmin Ultra Soft Clogs Toilet - Charmin Ultra Soft Bathroom Tissue

Posted by andbran on 2009-12-14:

actually i had the same problem. after the plumber came the second time to unclog us he suggested using store brand toilet paper. have not had a clog in 8 months.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Was it the Charmin Ultra Soft that you were using at the time?

Posted by Principissa on 2009-12-14:

We had that problem with this TP. I use cottonelle now, but aside from the normal cloggings (hotwheels, legos, apples, my son) our clogs doubled using Charmin Ultrasoft.

Posted by andbran on 2009-12-14:

it was the charmin in the red package.

Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-14:

dang a clog beyond the capacity of a plunger to rectify?

personally i'm using wegman's lower end stuff
but the higher end was fine

Posted by KenPopcorn on 2009-12-14:

Pep, in this case wouldn't the woord be 'rectalfy'?

Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-14:

well it could be like back in ET "A" school where one of my teachers... Rectifiers were called "rectum finders" and Capacitors were called "Cap zap iters"

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Sounds like that toilet needs some new TENANTS!
Never had a TP clog in my life but certain feminine products can cause this.
(H)....I guess

Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-14:

yeah. many tampons are listed as flush-able but i've never flushed them
then again when i was on board the navy ships tampons would clog the system so we were told to never flush them.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Some are listed as "flushable" Peps? Too funny!

Posted by Slimjim on 2009-12-14:

Oh so you're one of those "cloggers". I know your type. I've been in my house eight years and we have never clogged a toilet, yet we have guests over and low and behold. BTW, I don't find it's the "dads" that seem to have the issues.
Clearly we will need to send Ejack over and do a field test on your equipment with the Charmin.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

I never flush those and my nieces were all informed to never flush them when they started using them.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

I agree Slim.
It seems that DB, hasn't learned "TP" etiquette and still uses half a roll after just taking a 'whiz'.

*friggin' 4 year old*

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Slim...I even told my Dad that he has to use his 'butt muscles' more often when he's doing his duty...I told him he can't flush a log. That's when he blamed it on the Charmin.

And NO I am NOT a clogger! I never had my toilet clog when I lived upstairs by myself.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

DB, you are beginning to gross me out.
Addy, lock it up!!!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

"Lock it up"...yeah, you hear that alot, don't you ZZ! LOL!

Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-14:

Redefining the phrase Captain's Log?

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

I really didn't expect this thread to go downhill until Ejack signed on...LOL!

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

DB, shut it.
"....Captain's log...." *soup coming out of my nose*

Posted by Nohandle on 2009-12-14:

DB, I was advised years ago by the Roto-Rooter (no puns please) guy not to use Charmin period. He recommended Scotts which is what I've purchased ever since. And no, he wasn't here for a toilet issue.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Hmmmmm...the Rotor Rooter man making a service call to NoHandle's house...and it WASN'T a toilet issue? Ohhh...I see, ok... *Wink* Your secret is safe with The Basher!

Posted by Nohandle on 2009-12-14:

Hey, don't be talking about my guy. He also had had surgery and felt the need to show me his incision. We're on a first name basis in case you were curious. I am serious about the TP, no kidding. Obviously even back then he had seen a problem with the Charmin brand.

Posted by KingJames on 2009-12-14:

very informative, Miss B. never would have thought tp brand would have anything to do with cloggin' up the ole sewer pipes.

Posted by littleyaya on 2009-12-14:

Hmmm....we use this brand of TP. I thought it was my 5 year old nephew who was clogging the toilet all the time

Posted by Principissa on 2009-12-14:

Our plumber said that the reason Charmin toilet paper clogs the toilet is because it is so thick. It has no time to break up and degrade before it gets into the pipes. I've been using cottonelle and have not had any issues with it.

Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-12-14:

Fascinating.

Posted by Wally86 on 2009-12-14:

DB, you should of called M3C's Custodian! over he would helped you out with the clogs.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Leave it to DB, to get an engaging conversation going regarding TOILET PAPER!
What's next DB, the virtues of a "plug" over a "pad?"

*all female members throw shoes at me*

Posted by Stew on 2009-12-14:

Hey Poppy why are you badgering the Basher?

Excellent information Basher. Perhaps this tidbit of knowledge will save a marriage or two. Good job!

Posted by bearkatkitten on 2009-12-14:

Thanks for the tip, DB. I don't think I use Charmin ultra soft; but now I won't, should I think to use it in the future.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

ZZ...you seem to know me pretty well...I have had a complaint about Tampax Tampons for over a year now...but I've put off posting it because of the grief I'd get from the 'guys'...but I'm still honestly thinking about posting it...stay tuned!

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Still smarting from getting slapped around by Mr. Christbilt, there Stuart?
*laughing* I haven't seen a man get handled here like that since the early days of M3C!

DB, spare us okay? Take that chatter to PALTALK.

Posted by KingJames on 2009-12-14:

lmao, walter. good one.

Posted by Nohandle on 2009-12-14:

ZZ, why on earth would the female members want to throw shoes at you? We have a much better plan in mind for you my dear.

Posted by Stew on 2009-12-14:

LMAO Wally. Sorry Poppy but Wally got you with that one. OUCH!

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

King, since Wallyboy has me blocked can you tell me how many words that he missspelled along with the puncuation errors?

Posted by Stew on 2009-12-14:

Give it up Mop-Boy. Wally owns you.

Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-14:

hmmm as long as it's soup and not the captain's log coming out of your nose

Posted by Mrs. V on 2009-12-14:

DB, I am very glad to see that SOMEONE else has this very same problem with this TP, ^_^!

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Yeah, behind my back.

Posted by Ytropious on 2009-12-14:

Good info DB. I don't believe I've used the ultra soft, but I have used the ultra strong with no problems. You'd think the stronger one would cause a toilet to clog but I guess not. My husband and I usually use angel soft anyway, it's cheap and effective!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Mrs. V...no matter how much fun the clown's poke at me for posting this...I needed to know if others had the same problem...and if they did, then my posting this along with the experience of others, will HELP other consumers in the future.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Just soup, Peps.
What is the food like when you are "on a float" Peps?

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

DB, it helps if you have running water, you know?
They'll never get Lake Erie cleaned up if deadbeats like you don't pay their water bills!

Posted by Wally86 on 2009-12-14:

I use angel soft, never clogged up my shytter.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

I'm a 'renter'...I don't HAVE to pay water bills...Einstein!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Yeah Wally, but you're still eating baby food and haven't been potty trained yet. *snickering*

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Well some "renters" do, Delta. *burn*

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Well...THIS one never did and THIS one is the one you're talking about!

Posted by Stew on 2009-12-14:

Poppy I'd quit while I was ahead. LMAO, Basher and Wally are on fire today.

Posted by Wally86 on 2009-12-14:

I wish I could see the Drivel that dullard is posting.

Posted by Wally86 on 2009-12-14:

Stop eating those dang Basher burgers, no wonder your pops is clogging up the toilet if he eats that drek.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Well Stewart, you sure as h@ll should have last week!
How can a 23 year old cherry get one over on me unless he has me blocked not to mention the OP that doesn't know what a "courtesy flush" is?!

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Wally, finally has a friend on here!
http://www.my3cents.com/showReview.cgi?id=68338

Posted by bearkatkitten on 2009-12-14:

ZZ... that review of "information" makes my eyes bleed.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Outstanding review in all aspects, huh BKK?

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Listen here my Zman..a "courtesy flush" is for smell...not clogs!

Posted by Stew on 2009-12-14:

Actually it's good for both Basher not that you would know anything about that because we all know that your poop doesn't stink.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Shows what you know, Tidy Bowl Girl. How about lingering WASTE?!!!

Posted by Principissa on 2009-12-14:

Actually in my house it's for clogs. I crossed stitched a little sign for the bathroom that says " Please be kind and courtesy flush after 10 minutes, our pipes will thank you!"

Posted by Stew on 2009-12-14:

Now the thirteen year old can clog a toilette with nothing more than his type 3 bristol stool.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Thank you, Princi.
Stewart, we are talking about indoor plumbing here.

Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-14:

"I'm a 'renter'...I don't HAVE to pay water bills"

Same here.
Though when I lived in Virginia Beach they charged us water - but it was a combined bill for 4 apartments. So, one person's overuse would be charged to everyone else too.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

"lingering WASTE"??? LOL...WHERE do you come up with this stuff, Zman? Excuse me for using the words of a very wise M3C man...You crack me up!

Posted by Stew on 2009-12-14:

I can answer that one Basher it was the nickname father Zz called little ZZ. Hey, Lingering Waste, get daddy a beer.

Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2009-12-14:

Problem solved! Here is a nice article on how to make your own reusable cloth toilet wipes.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/863469/how_to_make_your_own_reusable_cloth.html?cat=46

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

SICK!!
Why not just wear a diaper?

Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-12-14:

Large tree leaves would be even more eco friendly.

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

JKT: Tell that to the first poor schmuck that tried to use Poison Ivy leaves!

Posted by ProConsumer on 2009-12-14:

I've always had good luck with Northern bathroom tissue. No toilet clogs and no cruddleberries left on or around your bum. :)

Posted by old fart on 2009-12-14:

good 'ole Northern does the job and is only slightly abrasive!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Thank you Hugh...what would we do without your helpful advice? LOL...So, what do they do with it after they use it? Put it in the clothes hamper until laundry day? Have them monogrammed so people will know which ones are theirs? Have special ones hanging there for, 'Guests"? LOL!

Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2009-12-14:

You ask DB, Hugh delivers....."You will also need to rethink your bathroom set up. You will need a holder for the clean toilet wipes. A pretty basket or a small box could hold the clean toilet wipes. You also have to have somewhere to put the used toilet wipes. A small flip or swing type can works well, but anything with a lid will do the trick. Some people hang a wet bag (waterproof drawstring or zipper bag) near the toilet for the used toilet wipes."

Any crafters here? This could be just the thing to sell at your next craft fair!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

I'll tell ya what...if I ever used those in my house, Ejack would NEVER be invited to visit! LOL!

Posted by rtta on 2009-12-14:

I dont use wo ply anything in my house. The stuff they sell nowadays is thick as papertowels. And why do women have to use half a roll of toilet paper just to pee?

Posted by jktshff1 on 2009-12-14:

TREE not vine

Posted by PepperElf on 2009-12-14:

zz - food quality. eh it depends.

if we haven't had supplies for a while it can get kinda skimpy. rusty lettuce, spoiled milk, out of juice and soda

sometimes it's just ... "wtf is that?"
like barbeque fish or... ooh look green beans... with pigs feet? (i wish i wasn't joking)

but now i'm a civilian so my food is whatever i want - or can afford etc.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

What the heck are you talking about, Pepper? LOL!

Posted by zzrokk on 2009-12-14:

Read the thread DB!

Pig feet on a float, Peps? No way!! BBQ'd FISH?!!!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

It's MY thread ZZ...and I still don't know what the heck y'all are yapping about.

Posted by GenuineNerd on 2009-12-14:

Usually the "ultra" toilet papers require fewer squares to do the job...you may need only 6-8 squares of Charmin Ultra to do the same job as 16 squares of the thinner tissue. Also, it depends on the condition of the plumbing leading out of the toilet. If the "soil pipe" contains a lot of rust, roots (try flushing some Rooto down the toilet), or other deposits (even BM's that have stuck to the pipe surfaces over the years), a toilet would clog when "ultra" TP's are used. In my apartment, the toilet plumbing is in good shape...I've used Charmin Ultra, other "ultra" TP's, as well as wet wipes or baby wipes...those flush down with no problems, as long as I don't use too much at once. I would typically use about 6-8 squares of an "ultra" TP before flushing...it's better to flush 2 or more times than to poop, wipe, and flush in one operation. Some toilet plumbing can't take all that down in one flush. Also, the newer 1.6 gallon/flush toilets (mandated by law now) don't perform as well as the older 3.5 to 5 gallon/flush toilets.

Posted by GenuineNerd on 2009-12-14:

Maybe this thread needs to be moved to poopreport.com http://www.poopreport.com

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-14:

Thanks GN! My Dad says he only uses two squares...that's what he says...LOL! I use more than two to blow my nose!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-15:

I think that's Ejack's personal webpage!

Posted by Mrs. V on 2009-12-16:

DB, is your Dad ex-military, by any chance?

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-17:

Yes, my Dad was a Bomber in the Army in WW2.
Why? Did they have to ration the TP to only two squares?

Posted by Skye on 2009-12-17:

Very well written and helpful. Good read!

Posted by Mrs. V on 2009-12-17:

Yep, all military were trained to use only 2 squares. My Dad still does, too lol.

Posted by ejack053824 on 2009-12-17:

Tell your old man to stop eating so much cheese and using half of the roll to wipe his ass. Whats he doing....taking a dump and the turd breaks off half way out of his ass?

Posted by ejack053824 on 2009-12-17:

Course it helps to have a top of the line Ferguson toilet like a I do along with some good plumbing. Anytime I drop a load..it usually looks like a bear crapped in my commode...but the Fergie swallows it all along with the toilet paper all in one flush. There's no "Backwash" of fecal matter and toilet paper with a Fergie unlike some commodes. The worse commode I ever sat on and performed miserably is a Kohler.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-17:

Uhhhhhhh...yeah....uhhhhh...thanks Ejack....your input was well worth the wait! LOL!

Posted by ejack053824 on 2009-12-18:

Glad I could be of service Basher. :)

Posted by elreymomo on 2009-12-27:

Happened to us this summer, thought it was 'feminine' products going into bowl, precipitated a bit of a fracas. Anyway, Scott tissue less soft, cheaper and better for plumbing.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2009-12-27:

I agree Elreymomo, many people think that at first.

Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2010-01-13:

I use Charmin's Ultra Strong and Ultra Soft TP and I haven't had a clogged toilet yet and I have had all manors of clogs there. I guess it'll all come out in the end. This conversation is just ripe for comment. Ahhhhhhh....someone stop me...I can't stop.

Posted by interceptor on 2010-01-13:

Moved From Other Review: I was a handyman for 5 years. I unclogged 5 toilets. Each customer was using Charmin, not Ultra Charmin.

Posted by bearkatkitten on 2010-01-13:

So, in the 5 years of being a handyman... only 5 toilets you unclogged, the culprit was Charmin not ultra Charmin. Not very impressive, at all. I don't see how that would make your findings proven that it was Charmin not ultra Charmin, with only 5 toilets to compare.

Posted by zzrokk on 2010-01-13:

*burn*

Posted by bearkatkitten on 2010-01-13:

lol @ ZZ... as if. :-)

Posted by zzrokk on 2010-01-13:

*smiles*

Posted by GenuineNerd on 2010-01-14:

elreymomo (12/27/2009)
Rate user >

Happened to us this summer, thought it was 'feminine' products going into bowl, precipitated a bit of a fracas. Anyway, Scott tissue less soft, cheaper and better for plumbing.

Apparently tampons and maxi pads can plug up a toilet as well. Scottissue...sure there's 1000 sheets per roll, but you're using twice as much as the ultras to do the same job...but it's rough "where it really counts."

Posted by superbowl on 2010-01-14:

We never use Charmin Ultra Soft but this is some good info to remember. We almost always buy the Costco brand two ply. Good price and a pretty decent TP.

Posted by waterbury01 on 2010-01-18:

So lessons learned in this review, Charmin is bad for toliets. DebtorBasher doesn't flush feminine hygiene products and has a dad who produces way too much "toliet material"...All in all...a productive day.

Posted by GenuineNerd on 2010-01-18:

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Slim...I even told my Dad that he has to use his 'butt muscles' more often when he's doing his duty...I told him he can't flush a log. That's when he blamed it on the Charmin.

Could be a "Yule Log", since this was posted so close to Christmas.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2010-01-21:

You guys are crazzzzy!

Posted by superbowl on 2010-01-21:

20 fuzzies over toilet paper, who would have thought it possible? This beats the coffee pot and frozen TV dinner dredge.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2010-01-21:

Yeah...I didn't know that until I got notified of a helpful vote today, and I got one on my old Turbo Drain thingy today too.

Posted by NotAGoodLook on 2010-01-28:

OMG - 2Funny! I love Charmin, BUT I had to stop using it for this very reason....it is too thick to flush. I guess we just need better septic tanks.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2010-11-26:

WOW!!! My review made it to the big times! I'm famous! LOL!!!!

http://lucianore.girlshopes.com/clogging2009/

Posted by littleshorty on 2010-11-26:

Aw so many former and lost members posted on this review *sniff*

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2010-11-26:

I agree Little...Man-O-Man, I sure miss ZZ!
I didn't realize this review was from last year...seems like just a few months ago.....

Posted by hawkiowan on 2011-01-21:

Thanks for this posting. I couldn't figure out what was going on w/our plumbing but I do think this is the brand we've been buying recently. We'll try something else for awhile! Hoping to avoid $$$ for a plumber!

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2011-06-06:

I have switched to Angel Soft. I don't use anymore of those ultra soft anybands....

Posted by ript on 2011-06-06:

All TP will clog toilets if too much is used. But Charmin is very thick and the closest thing to linen that you'll ever use in a TP. It's like flushing a washcloth.

Posted by MRM on 2011-06-06:

Ript, which is why I dispose paper in trash can if Im using several folds of paper or needing several wipes.

Posted by littleshorty on 2011-06-06:

Basher why do you resurrect this review every few months? You looking for helpful votes from the newbies?

Posted by ript on 2011-06-06:

The Chinese put the TP in the trash too MRM.

Posted by trmn8r on 2011-06-06:

I'm glad DB pulled this review out of the hopper.

I use regular old Charmin, and have been for years. Slides off my bottom and down the drain - no complaints.

I seem to recall we tried this ultrasoft stuff at my mom's house, and it was crap. How ironic is that?

Posted by Wally86 on 2011-06-06:

Come on yaya all of m3c wants to know what kinda TP Basher uses. *scandalous*

Posted by trmn8r on 2011-06-06:

I would have guessed that DB doesn't need or use TP.

Posted by DebtorBasher on 2011-06-06:

Actually YaYa...I was brought back to this review thanks to a 'helpful' vote I got in my notifications...I clicked on the link to see which review it was for. I responded to hawkiowan, thinking it was a newly posted comment and it was him/her who voted the review. It wasn't until I just read your comment that made me look at the date of hawkiowan's comment...only to find it wasn't just posted.

But...you are excused and you can move on if you'd like.

Posted by keenest37 on 2011-08-07:

I agree, always buy Scotts but I was at CVS, knew we were out and this was on sale. It clogs our toilet one out of every four uses. Plus they are cheap, their coupons always require you buy two packs.