Disney World (Orlando, FL) Complaint - Unrightful Collection of Personal Information

Posted by bearkatkitten on 2010-02-22:

"They claim that it is for the sole purpose of keeping someone from stealing your ticket but I don't believe."

Why not? Why don't you believe it? Are you *that* paranoid? I've been going, every year, to Disney World for the passed three years and have no problem placing my finger on the fingerprint area. They don't sell your information because I have yet to receive more junk mail than I already do. All it is, is for identification... like the security lady told you, and was telling the truth.

Wow, seriously? It's just a fingerprint. It's a form of identification. There's no info stored... but just a way to identify someone. You seem to have no problem placing your finger on the scanner, but why not the 3 year old?
This is something that has been going on at Disney World for awhile now. At least, it has been the last 3 years I've been going.

Posted by Sparticus on 2010-02-22:

My wife and I were quite surprised about the whole finger print scanning as well. Not only did it seem unsanitary (the finger print scanner was this little sticky pad) but it seemed unnecessary.

We didn't complain, but we wanted to. I definitely felt a bit of privacy invasion.

Posted by MissMarple on 2010-02-22:

Disney isn't the only park that does this. I paid a lot of money for my Busch Gardens Platinum Passport. If I somehow misplace it, I'm happy to know that no one else can use it.

Posted by Stew on 2010-02-22:

I guess I wonder how far a business would have to go before some of you would scream foul? How about a DNA sample? Blood sample? Stool sample? Urine sample? Body cavity search?

I never in my life thought we would get to the point in this country where one would have to be finger printed in order to enter an amusement park. That's just messed up.

Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-02-22:

The only thing that is recorded is "This fingerprint is a paid admission for this day." No name, no SSN, no description. Tomorrow it no longer exists.

Unsanitary? If that is a problem you need to stay off of the rides while there.

Posted by bearkatkitten on 2010-02-22:

I think, just maybe, fingerprinting the 3 year old is a little much. But, it's just solely for additional identification purposes... to make sure you are you. It's quick and easy... much better than waiting for someone to whip their i.d.'s out because most people don't have them out, ready to go. And they want to get people in there as fast and accurately as they can.

Posted by MissMae on 2010-02-22:

Call me paranoid if you like...but there's no reason anyone needs to collect my or my daughter's fingerprints. Good for you OP, for standing your ground.

Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-02-22:

People generally fear that what they don't understand.

Posted by goduke on 2010-02-22:

I don't know, Star...I've seen NCIS. Seems that they can do an awful lot with a fingerprint......

Posted by KenPopcorn on 2010-02-22:

Is it a fingerprint, or a finger scan. There is a HUGE difference. A fingerprint makes an actual image of the finger, whereas the finger scan measures certain points on the finger and calculates a very long number which is unique to every individual who has ever lived. The finger scan is totally innocuous and non-intrusive, so before getting too crazy over this, it pays to know first what they are actually doing.

Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-02-22:

goduke, in NCIC they have fingerprints associated with names, aliases, addresses, etc. In Disney case there is no related data other that this finger print is valid today. Granted, this concept takes some logical understanding.

Posted by MissMarple on 2010-02-22:

Goduke, LMAO!

Posted by Starlord on 2010-02-22:

Watching a television show has little to do with reality. There is a lot of dramatic license taken for TV. Unless you have more than one print, or have a suspect to compare it to, fingerprints are really pretty useless. Add to that the fact that the agency has to spend over $750 to clean up after fingerprinting a scene really makes it not so useful. The myth that they can take one fingerprint and match it to a suspect is baloney. For instance, My index finger print might match the ring fonger print on your hand. That is why a full print set is required for a positive ID. TV cops have better scriptwriters than the guys and gals who bleed real blood when shot by anything other than a blank.

Posted by goduke on 2010-02-22:

Oh no. If I saw it on TV, it must be true. Why would they make stuff up on TV? Next thing I know, you'll be telling me stuff on the internet isn't true.

Here's a story from 2006 about the technology and what they're doing with it:

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/9774630/detail.html

Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-02-22:

goduke, that article is pure media hype based on a fragment of truth.

If you enjoy technical paranoia just think about it is technically possible to remotely open the microphone on your cell phone even when it is off and monitor your surroundings.

Posted by KenPopcorn on 2010-02-22:

Duke, that guy Crossley in the article is a maroon, plain and simple. They are NOT taking fingerprints, but he's from ACLU so it's about what I would expect from them: they rarely run with the truth.

Look at it this way, if I counted the freckles on your right cheek, then multiplied them by the freckles on yourleft cheek, and multiplied that result by some number that I have pre-chosen, is that the same as taking your picture? Neither is finger scanning a fingerprint.

Posted by MissMarple on 2010-02-22:

Ken, thanks for making me think of Bugs Bunny.

Posted by goduke on 2010-02-22:

You mean all of the stuff on the internet isn't true?

Posted by superbowl on 2010-02-22:

Walt, Walt, were art though oh' Walt? What's happening to your happiest place on Earth? All this drama just to have a gay old time.

Posted by yoke on 2010-02-22:

We were at DW last year and had our finger SCANNED. I also know that you have to have the correct ticket that your finger was scanned with. We had 11 of us going in at the same time. Be the responsible person in the party, lol, I was given all tickets after we entered so we would not lose them. We had a great day, went back to hotel and then that evening wanted to go back. I handed out the tickets. WELL, if your finger scan did not match the ticket you could not go in. Were we mad, NO, we were thankful because we know they were protecting us from somebody else using them. After about 5 minutes we were all in.

Posted by Wally86 on 2010-02-22:

In this day and age biometrics are prob gonna be taken everywhere u go soon.

Posted by MissMae on 2010-02-22:

True Wally...that way we will be conditioned when the first chips are introduced that carry all of our info on them...you know, so we don't have to hold up the lines at Disneyworld, so they don't have to wait for people to dig through their wallets for their ID, or worry about their tickets being stolen. I can't wait...things will move along SOO much faster then!

Posted by Ytropious on 2010-02-22:

It's easier then remembering a pass or a stamp on your hand that can wash off. I think it's a neat idea. As someone already said your prints are everywhere and if someone wanted them they could get them (I think this was on the show MANswers once). They aren't stealing your identity.

Posted by Starlord on 2010-02-23:

As far as fingerprint databases go, if you have never been arrested, in the military or had a job in security, gotten a concealed weapon permit, or been bonded, no one has your fingerprints on file. I have about thirty pounds of fingerprint cards on file with the FBI, and have never been arrested or in the military. I have driven taxicabs in Indianapolis (IPD requires prints for hack license, I have been bonded for my alarm system business, I have worked in both police and security work, and have had CCW permits in two states. They can pull up my print info on AFIS, but they can't do it with a partial print.

Posted by KenPopcorn on 2010-02-23:

OK, one more time for the folks at home... these are NOT fingerprints, they are finger scans and there is no correlation between the two. All the finger scan does is create a unique identifying number that only has signifigance to the one who creates it. It's a very fast, easy and safe way of identifying someone, who you have previously set up on your system. They are often used as logon identification for networks.

Posted by Disgruntled Patron on 2010-02-23:

Well, I appreciate everyones opinions and I respect that they differ from mine, in fact, I'm glad that they do because it just allows indivinduals to be exactly that. Now I'm not overly paronoid, let us attest it to overly protective. And while I had no compunction having my finger scanned, I will still no matter what refuse to allow my child to be scanned regardless of how the underinformed masses regard my feelings on the subject and that is my right. As it is also my right to be outraged by the procedure and as duly noted it original post, yes my ticket may be lost or stolen but I don't care so long as it helps to protect the privacy of my child. Thank You!

Posted by shanticena on 2010-02-24:

Wow,seriously! Those who believe that there isn`t anything to be paranoid about this is "baaaa" er um excuse me thats the sound of the blind sheep being led to slaughter!

Posted by shanticena on 2010-02-24:

If it is only "scanning" then how is it that if an individual has purchased a ticket such as a Fl res 4 day park hopper which doesnt expire until May 25,2010, the so-called "scanner" can differentiate between an individual, as was explained to my friend and I when we recently purchased our tix,up to an indefinite time period? It sounds as if there is a database somewhere... and is solely for identification purposes? The disturbing thing is that this is a corporation. Once again let me repeat, this is a CORPORATION! Why are corporate fat cats investing in personal information that is unique to an individuals identity? We wanted to ride on some rides not invest our money in a bank, or adopt a child, work in healthcare, or anything to that nature... hmmmm.... should Mc Donalds require a fasting blood glucose test before allowing me to purchase food with a high glycemic index? While it appears on the surface that this is not an invasion of our constitutional rights (pssst,hey kids, did you know that once upon a time We The People had certain rights such as freedom of expression, the right against unreasonable search and seizure... go ahead look it up, of course it will be harder to find then fairy tales happily ever after and all that...) the bigger question remains WHY? Oh and by the way I told them o hell no heres my ID! You can look but your`e not scanning that, either. Oh yeah one more tidbit of information, they took down our names put it on a paper ID and added our DOB so WHY scan my unique personal identification that could implicate me in a crime, or clear me of a crime, etc?... anyway hopefully you glean some insight into this atrocity! P.S. I get it, WHY, because we love you! M-O-U-S-E

Posted by PepperElf on 2010-02-24:

"So my question that I pose to you today is why on earth would the Disney Corporation like to fingerprint a child?"

Because if the unthinkable happens and some jerk steals your kid, they have your child's fingerprints available to give to the police or FBI to use in the search of getting him back.

Posted by KenPopcorn on 2010-02-24:

Shanticena, I guess I'd rather be a sheep about than to be ignorant and uninformed about it.

Pep, this system doesn't create a fingerprint, so there is nothing they could pass on, although it's a good thought.

Posted by Slimjim on 2010-02-24:

I read this and didn't even bother with the list of comments becuase I know they must state the obvious in majority, which is my reaction and Bearkat's out the gate.
Many Disney tickets are sold as Passes, good for many day blocks, weekends, seasons or even the whole year. Finger scans match a ticket account to a person, so yes, no one can steal and use it. More over, you can't just hand your passes out to friends and family using the tickets to allow other people to gain admission free and dishonestly on another day.
So yes, that is the reasoning, "no one" steals admission. I have no problem taking my family in and us all scanning our finger tips. The only reasoning I can see objecting to it would be if I was trying to pull a fast one with the Passes and bought them to be reused by others intentionally.

Posted by PepperElf on 2010-02-24:

if they are fingerprinting a child... then there must be a place the data is stored, no?

Posted by Toni on 2012-10-20:

wow just wow so sorry I only found this now okay as others have pointed out this is NOT a fingerprint it is a SCAN no onr wants your identity but if you are that afraid I would suggest never using a stores reward card never shoping on thr internet don.t go to Drs as medical records have been c compromised