RailEurope and Trenitalia Domestic Trains Complaint - How Trenitalia Domestic Trains can steal from you without recourse

Review by Nikon Shooter on 2010-04-14
ROMA ITALY -- How Trenitalia Domestic Trains can steal from you without recourse

I had a $6000.00 Nikon D3 camera stolen on your Train from Roma To Venice by a train employee of Rail EUROPE and file a Police report then was told I would get 500 Euros for my Camera do you think will have to take Rail Europe court to get the $5500 USD.
Comments:8 Replies - Latest reply on 2010-04-15
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-04-14:
You would have to prove that it was employee that stole it. The first thing you'll be asked is if you saw it happen. It not, no liability to the train operator.
Posted by B. on 2010-04-14:
That's a pretty rundown looking train station for Venice. Not much info in this review. (NWIWLF)
Posted by Nikon Shooter on 2010-04-14:
Upon arriving in Venice Italy I was seated in first class so I waited til most passenger were off the train to go to car 5 there my luggage was locked and storage upon unlocking my luggage a employee of the train company ask he could help unload my luggage I was talking on my cell phone to Hilton hotel about how to get there so I said yes. So I got out of the train on the ground and he the man in yellow that was cleaning the train Begin to hand me my first second and third bag as I was pitting it on a cart I looked up and he was gone so I started to walk then I realize he had my camera bag with my Nikon D3 with 55mm lens and color card business card with 14 cf 4 gb cards

(Italy Lawyer) Dear Mr.

In respect of your request for information, did you go to the police to file a report while you were in Italy? If so do you have a copy of such report?

You should have filed a private prosecution charge against the unknown employee within 90 days from the event (you can do so by going to an Italian Embassy and asking them to enable you to file a “querela”).

It would be difficult to hold the Italian train company vicariously liable for the criminal actions of one of their employee (he was definitely acting outside the scope of his duties). The action, instead, could be brought against the employee himself, should you be able to identify him (a name would be necessary).

Please let me know if you need any further information and/or clarification

Kind regards

Matteo Zambelli
Zambelli Tassetto - Studio Legale


Yes I did file a police report and yes I saw the person with my luggage

(USA Lawyer)From Paul

Monday, April 05, 2010 9:29 AM EST
Yes, you can sue the employer for the theft committed by one of its employees, but you are going to need to obtain an attorney in Italy to do so and you would not be able to sue on your own, as long as you have evidence that the employee did steal the camera. If you do not have such evidence then you would have to make a claim for lost/stolen property through the rail line's insurance carrier just as you would for any lost luggage.

Posted by BEJ on 2010-04-14:
Did you leave the camera unattended? It never ceases to amaze me--folks who leave valuables unattended or put in checked baggage and then are upset and mad when things go missing.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-04-14:
I don't want to speak out of turn here, but the culprit might be the fellow who took this highly detailed giant phtograph
Posted by Nikon Shooter on 2010-04-14:
my luggage was locked in train storage upon unlocking my luggage from the train storage a employee of the train company ask he could help unload my luggage. I'm a pro photographer and yes
I have more than one Nikon.
Posted by idontthinkso on 2010-04-14:
Yeah.. it's a rough way of learning, but now you know.. the expensive items go with you or get put into a locked case. Travel insurance is a MUST these days..
Posted by Nikon Shooter on 2010-04-15:
Thank you for all comments, when I travel with camera's I put them in Pelican
duel lock case's with one in each case all ways locking them to something or
in my hand when you travel with $10000 worth of camera's I tend to be real careful.The lost was not only the camera,filming trip was a lost too $20,000
for the trip and I will have to redo trip.
When traveling out side the USA and something happen there is very little recourse.Italy is the wild west very little on Law's

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