Motel 6 Complaint - Dog bite

Posted by MRM on 2010-09-01:

I would like to hear the whole story to this incident.

Posted by Dryad on 2010-09-01:

I am just curious..why did you ask the man if his dog would bite?

Posted by MRM on 2010-09-01:

As a precaution, I will assume that all dogs will bite.

Posted by burnside on 2010-09-01:

should have called an ambulance.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

Where's the rest of the story? Did the ER or police find out if the dog had its shots? That's the first thing they would do. Did you even call the police? Was the motel held responsible?

I'm not big on calling the police but sometimes it really is the thing to do. If this happened as you said, I would have called immediately.

Posted by justcuz on 2010-09-01:

Once again, I'm trying really hard to be on the OP's side here, but you're saying you had two deep puncture wounds to your neck and needed ER care, but were first able to walk inside and ask about the dog's shots?

And...why would you ask the manager about the dog's shots, and not the maintenance man, who was walking the dog and who you asked if it bit or not?

Were the police contacted? What did they say?

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

The maintenance man might not have know about the shots. The manager might not have even known. The owner of the dog should know, but I wonder who the owner is. That's where the police come in. I think this incident needed to be investigated to ensure the safety of the other people at the motel.

Posted by justcuz on 2010-09-01:

Could be, Venice...I read it as the maintenance man was the owner but maybe not.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-01:

Yeah we can 'what if' this till the dogs come home but bottom line the clerk was totally wrong giving the OP the boot for merely getting bit by a dog being walked by the motel's maintenance man. That's some major league jacka$$ery.

There's no way around it ~~ VALID COMPLAINT.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

Just, my first impression was that it was the motel's dog and probably owned by the manager or owner of the motel, but it could just as easily belong to the maintenance man. There is so much left out of this review, making it hard to know what really happened.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-01:

What else do you need to know about this CONSUMER complaint.

1. Customer gets bit by a dog in the charge of a motel six employee.
2. Customer starts to bleed.
3. Another motel six employee upon seeing wounded customer issues a REFUND then tells the custom to leave.
4. Customer leaves.

As far as the medical concerns go that's really nobody's business. This isn't a forum for medical advice. There is more than enough information provided to know that motel six was totally absurdly in the wrong.

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-01:

Stew is completely correct. The reactions to peoples' stories on this site are sometimes incredible.

Posted by madconsumer on 2010-09-01:

this sounds serious. hopefully you were able to file a police report, and the dog was checked for rabies.

Posted by Justice-4All on 2010-09-01:

Damn bulldogs! A beagle is more regal, therefore would never do something so illegal:o)


*waiting for the 1st person to reference a certain something...*

Posted by justcuz on 2010-09-01:

Don't stroke his ego, Linus. No one said the manager was in the right to throw the customer out, but there was some missing information that would be great to know...like were the police called? Did anyone follow up on this dog? What happens if this dog attacks a child next and they are killed or seriously maimed, and it could have been avoided if the OP had filed charges?

Posted by bargod on 2010-09-01:

If "if's and but's" were candy and nuts...we'd all have a merry christmas.

Posted by PepperElf on 2010-09-01:

just - i think you have a good point.

though... I would also like to know if he asked the owner for permission to pet it?


Not all dogs want strangers reaching for their faces. And, if you ask first, the owner can say "yes" or "no" ... or can make a point to pet the dog at the same time so that the dog knows it's OK.

but if you just reach for the dog ... it may get spooked.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

Exactly, jc. It goes without saying that the motel is wrong. In fact, the review makes it seem so obvious, that I can't help wondering what else happened. If someone is going to post something like this on a public forum, it helps to include some details.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

Pepper, I don't think the OP bent down to pet the dog. I think he was just trying to look non-threatening. Again, not enough details in this review.

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-01:

The OP shared his/her complaint about being bitten by a dog and how she/he was treated afterwards. The status of the dog, or whether the OP did anything to prevent it from biting someone else, or whether the OP called the police or an ambulance, or whether the OP etc. etc. etc. as a result of being attacked is wholly irrelevant.

Unless, of course, this site is no longer a consumer complaint site and is now a segment of "What would you do?"

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-01:

It certainly is Linus. Whether the police were called, the medical results or pending law suits really have nothing to do with this complaint which again is totally about the OP getting KICKED out of the motel for getting bit by a dog controlled by a motel six employee. That's it in a nut shell.

I'm amazed at the sense of entitlement of some of the commentators of this gripe site. Nobody owes any of you any more of THEIR story then THEY want to share. You are NOT entitled to ANYTHING more. Jeeze.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

It's not irrelevant to anyone who is considering staying at this motel. If I had any intention of ever staying there, I would want to know exactly what happened. This site is not just for consumer complaints. It's a place to share experiences so people can make informed decisions.

Posted by PepperElf on 2010-09-01:

... i can't think of any other reason to get down in front of the dog.


Also - looking a dog (especially a strange dog) in the eyes is a sign of aggression. In dog-language it means you're trying to exert authority over the dog.

If you want to appear "non-threatening" then stand up and IGNORE the dog. In dog-behavior that's how the Alpha male acts.


It's the non-alpha males who will get in the Alpha's face and make eye-contact. Why? Because they want to fight the Alpha for dominance.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-01:

I don't know if that's true or not PepperElf but still it doesn't excuse the behavior of the motel six employee.

Posted by PepperElf on 2010-09-01:

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-267--5356-0,00.html

nice article on what to do if you encounter a strange dog that's running free.

note...

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Turn around. Turn and walk in the opposite direction of the dog. Don't stare. "Staring a dog in the eyes can be interpreted as a threat by some dogs," warns Peak. "Keep the dog in sight, but avert direct eye contact."
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Posted by justcuz on 2010-09-01:

No one excused the behavior of the motel clerk, where do you see that at, Stew? Last time I checked, there wasn't anything wrong with asking for more details, or is that now considered taboo too?

Posted by Nohandle on 2010-09-01:

In this state if one goes to the ER as a result of a dog bite it is required law enforcement be notified. They in turn investigate the incident. Perhaps it's not required in Colorado.

OP, please come back and fill us in on exactly why the manager told you to leave? I appreciate hearing these things in the event something similar happens to me.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

That was my first reaction to this, Nohandle. I wasn't as much concerned with who was right or wrong as I was with the dog being dangerous or not having had its shots.

Posted by lakisha j on 2010-09-01:

All dogs with TEETH bite and why did the OP squat down as the dog approached? It might have felt threatened and that was VERY poor judgement on your part.
Good luck with you neck wound and be glad that it wasn't a Pit Bull.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-01:

No Kisha it sounds like very poor judgment of the maintenance man walking the dog. Let me quote from the only info that you or I have concerning this incident.

"i asked him if the dog would bite and he said no. i squatted down as not to look threatening and when they got within a few feet of me the dog lunged at my throat "

See this would indicate that when the OP squatted the dog was not within lunging distance and in fact it was the maintenance man who walked the dog into striking distance. Given the facts at hand I'd have to say it was VERY poor judgment of the one WALKING the dog.

Posted by lakisha j on 2010-09-01:

Squatting down to pet the dog I would think and a sudden change of posture would alarm a lot of dogs. Especially more aggressive ones.

I would have taken the long route away from the dog and I repeat "dogs with teeth will bite".

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-01:

Indeed Kisha and people who walk aggressive dogs are 100% totally responsible to keep their dogs from biting people especially people in as you describe a vulnerable squatting position.

How you can blame the OP for this dog bite is beyond me.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-01:

I cant believe the police were not called. Motel six is most definitely responsible. They allowed their employee to have a dog on the property that bit someone. Not only that, but this is also a breed known to attack humans and other animals. What was the owner thinking? I would definitely get a lawyer.

Posted by Nohandle on 2010-09-01:

Again, I'd like the OP to come back and clarify but sadly it might be one of those situations we've all heard of when a business wants no responsibility and will leave the individual to his own resources. The treatment from management, if reported correctly, is ridiculous.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-01:

Definitely sounds like they were trying to hurry up and get them off their property to try to avoid responsibility. I would have stayed right there and waited for police and ambulance to arrive.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-01:

Refresh my memory, Stew, so I don't have to read through the comments. Who blamed the OP?

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-01:

Venice, Kisha stated, "It might have felt threatened and that was VERY poor judgement on your part'. I'd say accusing somebody of poor judgment is putting blame on to the OP. Wouldn't you?

Posted by Helpful on 2010-09-02:

"I am just curious..why did you ask the man if his dog would bite?" Did you ever think Dryad, that when the maintenance man said "no", that he wasn't referring to the bulldog, as that wasn't his dog? ROTFLMAO I just love that joke!

Seriously, I would have liked to have heard the conversation between this maintenance person and the OP. Something must have been done or said before walking into the office.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-02:

Not necessarily, Stew. If someone doesn't know any better and it causes them to use poor judgment, I don't think that means they are automatically at fault. It's just a matter of judgment. What I see in the comments is some advice on how to behave when approached by a strange dog. This could not only be helpful to the OP is something like this ever happens again, but it can also help other people who read this thread.

Posted by Sheriffs Uncle on 2010-09-02:

This review leaves me siding with the OP, but also wanting more information. I think anyone writing a review is obligated to tell the story in a way that doesn't leave more questions than answers. Just because it seems obvious that the hotel was grossly neglectful, that doesn't mean that this Op has written a review that states his/her case clearly. When so many details that seem obvious to the case are left out, it makes one wonder if the story has merit, or if there is another side. I think it was perfectly natural for the membership to ask for more details. Nobody dissed the Op or said they didn't believe them. Stew and Linus need to jump down off that high horse and quit accusing the membership of things they are not guilty of.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-02:

+++++ Sheriff.

Posted by PepperElf on 2010-09-02:

SU i agree about the obligation. i wouldn't mind reading more reviews were people don't whitewash their own behavior or actions while complaining about an employee's behavior.

Posted by Alain on 2010-09-02:

And now the OP needs to respond to some of these questions.

Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2010-09-02:

If I were to get bit by a dog, regardless of where, I am calling the police immediately, if not sooner.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-02:

You people take the cake. Whether or not the OP called the police or what happened in the emergency room or what happened to the dog is totally irrelevant to the actual consumer complaint. And quite frankly it's none of y'alls business.

Sheriff, Why don't you jump down from your high horse. Geeze, people can disagree with out turning it personal. You do realize that right Sheriff?

Posted by Nohandle on 2010-09-02:

In this state any dog bite is to be reported. Most ignore it but hospitals are required. Many individuals don't report it because if a homeowner owns the pet that's strike one and Fido is dropped from the homeowner's insurance coverage no matter the reason. It doesn't matter if there's a claim or one pending. No second chances for Fido. I'm just wondering at this point if the owner/manager of this establishment had already had this particular dog reported and ignored what had happened to the OP hoping he would disappear into the sunset.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-02:

Yes, that sounds completely plausible Nohandle.

Posted by Sheriffs Uncle on 2010-09-02:

Stew, you are correct that many of the details aren't our business. This particular review is different than most, however. This isn't Target not accepting a returned item. This was a life-threatening situation. The police should have been called immediately. The hotel should be held accountable. It's not a coincidence that the members here are wanting to know more details. Most of the responses are merely people wanting to know more mainly because we're upset for the OP. That's a far cry from disrespect, or from taking the side of the hotel. And that's why I don't understand why you and Linus are coming down so hard on everyone. I don't see where anyone is that far out of line.

Posted by Justice-4All on 2010-09-02:

I don't bite:o)

Posted by Skye on 2010-09-02:

This is not a real review.

Posted by justcuz on 2010-09-02:

Excellent, Sheriff. Looking back at all the comments, I only see where my first comment could be interpreted as not siding with the OP completely. Because of all of the details that were left out.

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-02:

Wow. Day Two.

Thank you, treemndc1, for your review. You quite succinctly explained why it is not to my advantage to ever stay at the Motel 6 in Evans, Colo., unless, of course, I am willing to put myself at risk.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-02:

Not a single detail relevant to this customer complaint was left out. In fact the OP painted the picture quite well. The only details left out was what happened in the aftermath which has no bearing on this complaint. None whatsoever.

It's becoming quite clear some of the regular commentators on here have an enormous sense of self entitlement when it comes to how much extraneous information the OP should reveal. I guess some people feel anonymous strangers brutally wounded by a dog owe them something. Well, I guess I'm the broken GI Joe because I'm not one of those people.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-02:

You got a wonderful way with words and a wonderful attitude Linus.

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-02:

Why, thank you, Mr. Stew. And I would add that you have a delicious way with words and a delightful attitude as well.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-02:

I read these reviews to be an informed consumer. However, a review must have credibility. Anyone can come on here and say something happened to them, but the less details there are, the else likely I am to let their story affect my choices to lodge, shop, eat, etc. This review is a perfect example.

Sometimes one side of a story is enough to convince me it's accurate depending on how the review is written. Sorry, but this is not one of them. This review as it stands would not stop me from staying at this motel. That's not to say I think the OP deserved to have a dog lunge at his throat. That would be silly. I would just need to know more about the incident in order to decide if this place is safe. Were the police called? Did the dog have its shots? Was it taken into custody? Was the motel held accountable?

If the purpose of this review was to warn other people, it failed in my book.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-02:

Well thank you Venice09 for finally admitting what I've suspected all along. None of this was about care or concern for the OP. It simply boils down to the fact that you question the credibility of this review and the OP. Actually it boils down to the fact that the OP didn't offer enough details for the my3cents jackals to tear into or wag the condescending finger at. It was quite obvious all along to me but I'm glad you finally admitted it.

There's absolutely nothing the OP posted that is inconsistent or unbelievable. You have absolutely no proof this review is not completely true. All you have is speculation. That's cool. I have the same about many reviews but I certainly don't discredit an OP based upon my speculations because quite frankly I think it's beyond rude.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-02:

You've got it all wrong, Stew, but I'm not surprised. You can try to twist my words all you want, but it might backfire.

"Actually it boils down to the fact that the OP didn't offer enough details for the my3cents jackals to tear into or wag the condescending finger at."

Wrong. Again, there are not enough details in the review to convince me not to stay at this motel. That would be my reason for reading the review in the first place, and the OP's reason for writing it. Nowhere here has anyone said they were not concerned about the OP's injury or made light of what happened to him. I don't recall anyone saying they didn't believe this happened either. That's not the point. It happened. Everyone gets that.

I hate to break this to you, Stew, but everything here is speculation. That's why OPs must word their reviews in a way that is as clear as possible, including details. If you believe everything you read and take it at face value, I hope you don't depend on these reviews to make decisions about your own consumer related choices. It could come back to bite you.. no pun intended.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-02:

Lets see. The motel six desk clerk upon seeing a wounded customer who by the way was injured by the negligence of another motel six employee promptly gives a refund to the injured customer and then tells them to leave the property yet that alone is not enough for you to form a negative judgment about this motel? You're kidding right?

Posted by bargod on 2010-09-02:

I wouldn't stay there either. Nothing to do with the review, it's just its a Motel 6 and I'd rather sleep under an overpass.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-02:

I prefer sleeping over and underpass. But either way you're less likely to get bit by something than if you stayed at motel six.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-02:

That goes without saying, bargod. But something like this could happen anywhere. This just happens to be Motel 6.

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-02:

I wonder what all these extra details might look like.

On May 10, 2010, I was staying at the Motel 6 in Evans, Colo. My best friend and I were on a road trip to visit an old hunting lodge that was featured in a recent broadcast of Ghosthunters. We wanted to check it out for ourselves, since we both consider ourselves to be novice ghost hunters.

Just after the sun had set, I was walking towards the front office when the maintenance man approached from the opposite direction. He was walking a very large bulldog. Being concerned for no other reason than bulldogs scare the heck out of me, I quickly asked him if the dog would bite. My hands shook and the sweat on my brow started growing thick.

I felt a wave of relief swoon over me as he said "No. My dog don't bite."

I was still a bit scared, though, because bulldogs simply scare me. I thought it would be best if I squatted down, so as not to look threatening to the dog. I didn't smile either, because I heard you should never smile at a dog.

When they got within a few feet of me, the dog lunged at my throat, biting me and causing two deep puncture wounds to my throat. I stood up and screamed "Good God, man! You said your dog don't bite!"

"I'm sorry, dude," the maintenance man said. "He's never bitten a soul before. He just must not like your smell."

With blood seeping from my wound, I shouted to my friend to call for an ambulance, then I walked into the front office to ask the manager if this dog had all his shots. From the shock of what just happened, I didn't realize the manager and the maintenance man were different people.

"That ain't no none of your nevermind, now is it, boy?" the manager said with an oddly deep-South accent, like something from Deliverance.

I was shocked! Here I was, bitten by a dog in control of a Motel 6 employee, and they refuse to tell me if the darned dog had his shots! By now my friend had come to my side, trying to see how bad my wound was. He said an ambulance was on the way.

Without breaking my stare from the manager, I said to my friend, "You better call the cops, too."

The manager heard me, and I was asked to leave the property. While I was standing there in the front office with blood running down my shirt, obviously in need of emergency treatment, I was handed a refund and asked to leave the premises.

The ambulance pulled up with its siren blaring. "Thank God," I muttered to myself. They immediately began cleaning my wound and trying to stop the bleeding. "How did this happen?" one of the EMTs asked.

"That beast there bit me," I answered, pointing at that four-legged hound from Hell. It looked like it smiled, slowly licking its lips.

They got the bleeding stopped. By now the manager and the maintenance man and dog were gone, probably off to buy some beer and beef jerky. The EMT asked if I knew if the dog had its shots; I explained I didn't. They told me I would need to go to the hospital for a series of shots, just to be on the safe side.

Just then a police officer pulled into the parking lot. The officer came over and asked what had happened. I explained everything to that point, and he looked around for the dog or its owner, none of which were in sight.

"Well, that dog will have to be taken in," the officer said. "He'll probably be put down, after an investigation. The owner may be cited as well."

"They'll pay for my medical bills?"

"You'll need to take that up in civil court, probably. That's a civil matter. You go get yourself taken care of, and we'll try to find the dog and its owners."

"Oh, I will, and I will hold this awful Motel 6 accountable for what happened to me. This I swear," I thought to myself.

By this time, my friend had packed all of our stuff and loaded it into the car. He followed me (in the ambulance) to the hospital, where I was treated for the dog bite.

So, my friends, I tell you this. If you are ever in Evans, Colo., I implore you - stay away from the Motel 6. They simply do not care if you are injured or not. And they will do what they can to get rid of you if you are.

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I hope My3Cents doesn't start requiring all posts to have this kind of detail. It's just too much. Besides, it all STILL boils down to:

1. Customer gets bit by a dog in the charge of a Motel 6 employee.
2. Customer is injured and bleeds.
3. Another Motel 6 employee, upon seeing the wounded customer, issues a refund then tells the custom to leave.
4. Customer leaves.

All the rest does not add to the complaint. But that's just my opinion.

Posted by ript on 2010-09-02:

treemndc1 could very well have gone into shock after the attack, though it is certainly not unreasonable or strange to want to know about the dog's shot record. That's one of the first things I would want to know after having been severely bitten, it is a valid concern, and the hospital staff or first responders would want to know this also.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-02:

I'm sorry if that's what you got out of the comments, Linus.

Why do you think the OP posted this review?

Posted by The_Jury on 2010-09-03:

Linus your detailed story does not make sense. The kind of detail the OP might have given would be those things that happened just before the bite. A few things that suggest that he no doubt unintentionally provoked the dog are:
(1) He asked if the dog would bite. This suggests that he did not intend to steer clear of the dog. This suggests that he intended to remain in the path of the dog.
(2) He does not say if the dog was on a leash or not. Since he came to show the hotel in a bad light, if the dog was not on a leash he would say so. This means that when the dog bit him, he was in the path of the dog.
(3) He crouched in front of the dog. Who does that? The dog must have thought he was going to spring on him so the dog lunged first.
(4) He says nothing of what the hotel reception told him. Did they blame him for provoking their dog?

The most likely conclusion is that he put out his hand to touch the dog. So many people think they have the right to pat a strange dog. You go in a friend's garden and see a dog and you are a dog lover so you pat it. But this dog was not a pet. Anyone with a brain would have figured that this was a guard dog the maintenance man kept. Unfortunately this OP learnt the hard way that you don't pat a strange dog, much less one there for security. It's like you go up to an armed guard guarding a company payroll, and pat him on the shoulder and say "Hey bud, what's up?" If he sees you as a threat and draws his gun telling you to stand back, you deserve it.

The hotel is not represented here and none of us were present and so it is incumbent on the OP to give such details as would allow the reader to decide if the OP's own behaviour was appropriate which is why the hotel reacted as it did. And not those kind of nonsense details, Linus.

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-03:

You people just don't stop. I'm not sure what more you need, but I am curious why you don't demand the same level of detail from nearly every other complaint out here.

Something stolen from your luggage at the airport? (Why didn't you call the cops? Did you lock your bags?) Food undercooked at a restaurant? (Why didn't you call the Health Department? What did you order?) Bank of Wherever charged you a fee? (Why didn't you press charges against them for theft? Did you keep a ledger?)

Bottom line: If you stay at the Motel 6 in Evans, Colo., you run the risk of being physically harmed and then evicted from your room.

If you tell your story here, you run the risk of being nitpicked for no reason beyond the herd mentality.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-03:

Linus, those things do not require a call to police. As one poster (Nohandle?) said, in some States ERs are required to report dog bites to the police. It's a fair question and the first thing that came to my mind when I was reading the review. I actually looked for a second page to this review because it ended in midair.

If the dog did have its shots and this was an isolated incident, or if the dog was taken into custody and possibly put down, why wouldn't I stay at this motel?.. aside from the fact that it's Motel 6. Are you suggesting that this motel just go out of business?

I don't think it's nitpicking at all. You can't come here and give snippets of information about an incident and expect everyone to join a boycott, especially when it's something this serious. I'm not even sure what the OP wants because it appears as if he didn't finish writing the review.

The best way to avoid speculation and assumptions is for the OP to post as many details as possible. This review doesn't even come close.

Posted by goduke on 2010-09-03:

Animal bites in public areas are pretty much strict liability issues. If your animal bites someone, you pay up (unless, perhaps, that person was breaking into your house or physically harming you). I suspect the OP thought, "nice doggie, I'll give it a pat on the head or a rub on the chest." Clearly not a wrong choice, and perhaps the pup got scared or something, but it doesn't really matter. If Motel 6 allowed their employee to have the animal on the premises, they're probably on the hook as well.

Tree, hope the injury didn't leave a scar or anything!

Posted by Helpful on 2010-09-03:

What I find interesting with all of this is that the OP never has responded to any questions.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-03:

What I find interesting with all of this is that some of the commentators feel entitled to answers to their questions.

Posted by Venice09 on 2010-09-03:

If I have to make a decision, based on this review, whether or not to ever stay at this motel, of course I would want answers to some pretty obvious questions. Not a matter of entitlement at all. Just trying to make an informed decision. Isn't that what this site is all about?

Posted by The_Jury on 2010-09-03:

Stew, it's not about being entitled to answers, but everyone is surely entitled to draw a conclusion and form an opinion in the face of the failure by the OP to provide information. And in the absence of information from him, my own conclusion is that he must have contributed to his getting bitten. In particular how did he come to be close enough to the dog to get bitten. I am a dog lover myself, but if I am at a hotel and an employee has a "very large bulldog", I would keep clear of the dog.

A few years ago at Miami Airport there were two police officers with a very large Alsatian on a leash. They were passing a few yards away from us. My 6 year old daughter said, "What a nice doggie! Can I pat him?" He was really a handsome dog but I had to tell her, "That dog means business, he is not going to take kindly to a little girl patting him."

Apparently no one taught this OP what I taught my daughter that day. Some dogs are pets but some are performing a security function. It's not difficult to identify which is which but if you are in doubt, keep clear and don't even ask if he bites.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-03:

"In particular how did he come to be close enough to the dog to get bitten."

Interesting enough in a review supposedly void of details the OP answered that question quite succinctly. And I quote:

"he was walking a very large bulldog. i asked him if the dog would bite and he said no. i squatted down as not to look threatening and when they got within a few feet of me the dog lunged at my throat"

Obviously from what's written the Motel 6 worker WALKED the dog close enough to the OP for the OP to be bitten. What more do you need to know?

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-03:

The_Jury, You might want to brush up on your law a bit because Goduke, who I might add is an attorney, stated it best when he posted, "Animal bites in public areas are pretty much strict liability issues. If your animal bites someone, you pay up (unless, perhaps, that person was breaking into your house or physically harming you)."

Unless the OP aggressively provoked the dog which I doubt then the one in control of the animal (the motel six worker) is totally responsible. That is the the law.

Secondly I totally dismiss your assertion that "OP did in fact deliberately put himself in the path of this very big dog" when the OP made it clear the one walking the dog walked the dog close enough to the OP for the dog to bite the OP. Since you weren't there then I'll believe the only person here with a firsthand account.

And finally that's not the real complaint here. The complaint is about the motel six worker who upon seeing a wounded customer reacted by giving the customer a refund and then telling them to leave the property.

Again talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

I must admit. Some folks on this site will do anything to find a way to make it look like its the OP's fault. the OP clearly asks if the dog bites, and he said NO. Who in their right mind would let an employee bring a PIT BULL to their hotel? A breed of dog that well known for attacking and killing people and other animals? What if this was a child? Would you blame the child for trying to pet the dog? on no. You would blame the parents, Im sure. Its never ever the company's wrong doing. Give me a break. If I was the OP I would sue the hell out of the hotel for gross negligence in allowing an employee's dog that is obviously a dangerous animal on their hotel property around people and children.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

And whoever is going to respond saying that "the op should have known it was a pitbull and not to pet it", It is the DOG OWNER'S and PROPERTY OWNER'S responsiblilty to be sure that their animal does not hurt someone else or their property. Since the owner had the dog on public property, around people and hotel guests, I find it the dog owner's fault for allowing the dog to bite another person, and I find it the hotel's fault for allowing their employee to have this dangerous animal on their property. If the dog was not at the hotel in the FIRST PLACE, the OP never would have gotten BIT! END OF STORY!

Posted by justcuz on 2010-09-03:

How would the OP know it was a pit bull when he clearly stated it was a bull dog?

I would still like to know if the police were called and if any action was taken to ensure this dog is kept safely away from other guests...especially children. Hopefully the OP will come back one day and let us know.

Posted by Nohandle on 2010-09-03:

I don't recall the OP mentioning pit bull, only bulldog. Vast difference. Picture Uga the UGA's mascot vs a pit bull. The only thing stated was it was a large bulldog. Let's try and not change this around as the responses increase.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

oh im sorry. I miss read. well regardless, its obviously a dangerous animal.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

Lets put this in perspective. What if this ended a lot differently, and the dog bit the OP's jugular, causing them to bleed to death? Who would be held responsible? The dog owner, and the hotel owner. Its not that difficult to understand.

Posted by Stew on 2010-09-03:

In that case Prince I'd imagine the Motel 6 desk clerk wouldn't have issued a refund before removing the body from the property.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

and Jury, Ive never heard of a police dog biting anyone other than a perpetrator. K-9s are very well looked after and kept away from the public, or kept very close to the k-9 officer. If a police dog did bite a civilian, then Im sure the PD would be held responsible as well.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

LOL stew. It would be the dog's fault. The family would have to sue the dog, and take full possesion of its doghouse and all toys inside the dwelling.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

Jury, you are like talking to a wall. I DO live in the united states and I DO know what I am talking about. have YOU ever been attacked by a police dog? I sure havn't Police dogs are put through months if not YEARS of training. I have NEVER heard of a civilian being bitten by a police dog. Since police are well trained in handling these animals, they know how to interact with these trained animals into not biting civilians. As far as this complaint, this was NOT a police dog, but the hotel employee's dog on a public area, near hotel guests, obviously. it is the DOG OWNER'S responsibility to keep their animal from attacking or biting other people. How hard is this to understand?

Posted by The_Jury on 2010-09-03:

Here is the link to the video

http://animal.discovery.com/videos/untamed-and-uncut-attack-dog-bites-reporter.html

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

What does this review have anythign to do with police or attack dogs? the OP was at MOTEL 6. NOT THE PENTAGON

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-03:

I was at a children's event where there was an officer and his police dog. There were between 500-600 kids (mostly ages 3-7) running around like little maniacs, having a great time. There were loud noises (sirens), music and general chaos. But that ol police dog just sat there, getting his head patted and his neck squeezed by every crazed kid that came near him. I even kneeled beside him and scratched him behind his ears. Before I did, I asked the officer if it was okay to do so, he said of course and acted like it was a dumb question. I think the dog's name was Rocky or Rambo.

Posted by Prince-Caesar on 2010-09-03:

Linos, thats because these animals are put through extensive training. the officer teaches the dog commands on what to do. Im sure there are commands the officer says to get the dog to chase and bring down a perpetrator, but the dog can be like a puppy around other people.

Posted by LinusOno on 2010-09-03:

I had no real point, The_Jury, especially since this is so far off topic. But you said: "Guard dogs, whether police or private security bite civilians when they get too close." That's a pretty black-and-white statement that we all know just ain't true. My little anecdote is just one illustration. But I'm not even sure what your point is at all with any of these comments, except maybe to drag this out for no purpose but to drag it out. Seems to me everything that needs to be said or could be said has been said concerning the original post.

Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2010-09-04:

If the dog got close enough to put two deep puncture wounds on his neck, I'm glad the dog didn't rip his throat out. I agree that it was a good thing it wasn't a pit bull.

Posted by Lifemates on 2010-09-05:

If this story is true then this is crazy. This dog and owner should be brought to justice.

Posted by trmn8r on 2010-10-05:

I just saw this story, and read maybe 70 of 92 comments. What I am wondering, and didn't see mentioned by the OP or others, is the reason the OP was told to leave the premises. Now I don't HAVE to know, and I'm NOT asking to know OR for the OP to return, but I am deeply curious. It would more fully describe the situation and allow me to more fully understand the complaint.