I first became aware on Ripoffreport.com in 2006 while browsing the internet. I looked up my company name and found a negative report about a company with the same name as mine, but in a state 500 miles away. I made use of the comment section, using my company name, my personal name, and my location, suggesting that the complainer should pursue through local channels if they actually have a complaint, rather than posting a company name on a national forum such as Ripoff Report. I expressed that I hoped this report did not cause confusion that would negatively affect my company.
I asked that the report be removed, and I received a response saying no, and that it was clear to anyone reading it that it was about a business other than mine. Over the next two years my business volume plummeted. I had no idea why, until summer of 2009 when I again searched my company name on the internet.
Ripoff Report was now linking this complaint together with my response. Therefore when someone did a web search for my business and hometown, up comes a link saying "(my business name) contractors, run away as fast as you can, terrible service, arrogant owner..." It then lists my personal name and hometown from my response to the original complaint, giving the impression that this ad is about my company. When you try to click the link to read the report, 9 times out of ten the site will not open for about 5 minutes.
I imagine this is caused by the website not properly maintaining its servers. So my business income fell from 100,000 in 2006 to 20,000 in 2009. I then asked Ripoffreport.com to remove my response to the original complaint so that it would stop showing up on the web with my personal info in it. Obviously it was not the intent of the complainer to ruin an innocent business. Twice Ripoffreport.com never responded to my request.
I then searched the web for ways of getting this info removed. Lots of websites willing to provide service for $5000.00. And guess what, I'm willing to bet that these same websites are discreetly owned by Ed Magedson, the same person who owns Ripoff Report. That's the only possible explanation for why this scumbag has decided to destroy my business, a business in no way related to the original complaint. Time for the Attorney General to put this scumbag behind bars instead of letting him profit off destroying honest businessmen while hiding behind the U.S. Constitution.
It seems to me that the real ripoff here is this organization “Ripoff Reports”. They claim to be advocates of good business practice yet post anonymous claims against any business as they are received. No verification, no investigation, no justification. They go so far as to admit this on their main page. While we encourage and even require authors to only file truthful reports, Ripoff Report does not guarantee that all reports are authentic or accurate.
They further state that they never remove reports, presumably even when those reports are false, slanderous, or just plain dishonest. Yet a quick search on Google shows several companies that guarantee ripoff Report removal, for a fee. Could these companies be somehow related? That would be extortion as I see it? Against federal law as I understand it. Could that be the reason the Ripoff Report server is located in Turkey? They do have a PO Box in Tempe, Arizona, perhaps a mail forwarding service of some type? I do not know. Smells funny to me.
Ripoffs by ripoffs.com seem to be quite a growing concern, so much in fact that their web page even has a section on why it would be foolish to sue them. Let me add my own opinions:
1. It is hard to sue a con man. They often have the angles figured out. It is their occupation.
2. It is impossible to sue a PO Box.
3. It's very difficult and expensive to sue someone in Turkey if you live in the USA.
If you feel that you have been victimized by this or some other scam here are a few places that you can go. All are US government sponsored. www.ic3.gov - The Internet Crime Complaint Center (FBI and NW3C Partnership). www.usa.gov/Citizen/Topics/Internet_Fraud.shtml - US Government internet fraud. www.fbi.gov/scams-safety/fraud/internet_fraud/internet_fraud - FBI. www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm - Department of Justice site.
RICHARDSON, TEXAS -- I have been in the staffing industry for almost 20 years. I have contacted Rip Off Report to remove the negative lies and false comments about myself and my companies that are now closed. They told me since my company was closed that I would not qualify for the resolution program. After much research we now know why. They can't demand monetary payments from me or my company if it's no longer in service.
I refuse to respond to any comments made via Rip Off Report but will respond to anyone that wants answers regarding Advanced Plus Personnel, Inc. dba HIVE Advanced Solutions. There was never any type of fraudulent activity via APPI OR HAS but rather fraudulent checks written on the company account by an individual in Houston, TX. Unfortunately, the account was closed by the bank without notice. All checks that were returned, were stamped returned due to fraud.
People assumed fraud was made on our part. All checks have been paid by my company along with any fees that were charged. I offered to submit the documents to Rip Off Report but they refused to remove the negative comments from their site. Anyone that knows me, Cindie **, knows that I do not have a long reputation of burning anyone but rather have helped a lot of staff in the 17+ year time frame I have been in this industry.
This is a very unfortunate situation. It's bothersome to know that anyone can write anything about you even when you have proof that it's wrong. I have contacted Google, they have offered no help in removing these false and derogatory comments from their search engines but merely refer me back to Rip Off Report. Go Figure!!! SEO at its best.
I recently noticed my name and company name showing up as a complaint on RipOffReport. There was a complaint on there from a fake name and they said that they did business with me/us (we do web design). The person that filed a complaint never did business with us and we don't even offer the services they mention in the complaint. RipOffReport contacted me and said "I can see the complaint is fake"... "But our policy is we do not remove complaints no matter what". Then I noticed when people searched for my company name on google, this ripoffreport complaint showed up before our own website.
Then.. Some guy from Ripoffreport called me and basically said if I paid thousands of dollars that they can help me with the complaint issue. I felt like they were extorting me. I told them no, and was rude with the guy. 2 weeks later there are now 3 new complaints that are completely FAKE LIES. I believe Ripoffreport did this to me. Finally after I found a company that offered to remove Ripoffreport complaints I got it to not show up on Google. But the complaint is still on Ripoffreport.
If it were not for the help from the company ReputationArmor then this complaint would be seen by all my clients and potential clients. I think that Ripoffreport is the actual ripoff and they are just in business to scare people into paying them fees to take down complaints... DO NOT POST TO RIPOFFREPORT. They are con-artists!
PHOENIX, ARIZONA -- Thanks for the help I got my ripoff report removed on google
6. http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket ... o.asp?caseNumber=CV2004-021685
10. http://express-press-release.com/16/Extortio ... %20place,%20the%20Internet.php
Contact Arizona attorney general office
File #CIC 04-210090 Magedson, ed
You can serve ed at
Jaburg $ wilk
3200 n central ave
phoenix Az 85012
Contact info for google get your report removed)
Mountian view California
Directnic is the regitrar for ed's sites
Domain servers(I did a whois search)
Contact christopher scorina (Lawyer)
contact your local BBB http://www.dc.bbb.org/report.html?national=Y&compid=1038533 :
contact the Federal trade commission:
File # FOIA-2005
Earn a bounty with information about Ed Magedson
There are several federal laws that provide bounties or rewards or the equivalent of bounties for certain information or lawsuits.
Federal income taxes
Section 7623 of the Internal Revenue Code authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to pay rewards to those who help detect and/or prosecute tax cheats. If you have any information that Ed Magedson has cheated on his income taxes, send it to the IRS. Their tax fraud hot line is 800-829-0433. If they use it successfully, they may pay you a reward. There is no set reward amount, although you often hear the figure 10%. The basic idea is that the IRS wishes to encourage such information. They will acknowledge receipt of your information and tell you one way or the other if they will be rewarding you for it.
Inside information trading
This is the crime Martha Stewart made famous. In general, persons who have inside formation about a public company may not buy or sell shares of that stock unless they first register that information, which makes it public. The news stories about Martha Stewart have suggested that she knew Imclone was about to be told publicly that they would be denied approval of an important new drug. Arguably, she and others sold before the news became public to avoid the likely decline in stock price. The head of Imclone has pleaded guilty to insider trading. She got indicted for covering up her behavior in that incident. The stock in her company went down by a half a billion as a result.
If you report an apparent illegal inside trade by Ed Magedson to the SEC, you are eligible to collect a bounty of up to 10% of the amount of improper profits he is forced to give back. 17 CFR §§201.61 to 201.68 The Web page for the SEC's Inside Information Bounty Program is at http://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/insider.htm.
There is a general complaint center at SEC. Their address and fax number are SEC Complaint Center, 450 Fifth Street, NW, Washington, DC 20549 202-942-9634 and their complaint Web page is http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml.
As with many laws, RICO has a misleading name. RICO stands for the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (18 USC 1961-4). The name conjures up images of the Godfather. The law is not confined to mobsters at all. Rather, it simply is triggered whenever a person or organization commits two or more acts of mail fraud (18 USC 1341) or wire fraud (18 USC 1343) in a ten-year period.
Mail fraud is " obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises " involving the mail in any way. Wire fraud is the same, only it requires the transimission of some sound by wire in interstate commerce. I think that's the Congress's way to describe a phone call or fax. Nowadays, it may cover Internet as well. If you listen to a dial-up modem, you can hear a rushing sound of the data being transmitted. Arguably, that, too, would be wire fraud.
Do Ed Magedson or his companies commit mail fraud or wire fraud? I do not know. I do know that he owns a telemarketing company and uses telemarketing. I also know that he has a Web site. Sale of books, tapes, or printed newsletters generally require use of the mail. That's part of the requirement. The other question are there any misrepresentations? The " Better Business Bureau has given Ed Magedson an unsatisfactory rating" is part of a misrepresentations. Do they rated him unsatisfactory because of not giving refunds? To the extent that he or his firm represented that they would give refunds, not giving them when the customer has complied with the refund terms sounds like another misrepresentation.
In general, mail fraud and wire fraud are crimes and crimes are prosecuted only by government prosecutors, namely the U.S. Attorney. But sometimes, the government is concerned that their resources are too limited to deter the crimes in question enough. In those cases, they add a clause to the law that enables civilians to become "prosecutors" of a sort by giving them a legal right to file a civil suit for those same crimes and providing a financial incentive to do so. So-called "civil RICO" is such a law.
18 USC 1964 permits civil (private) suits for RICO violations. It also provides incentive by entitling the winning plaintiff to triple damages. I do not want to encourage suits against Ed Magedson or anyone else without good grounds. Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure says it is illegal to file a suit unless you have investigate both the facts and the law and made sure the suit is warranted by both. So if you plan to sue Ed Magedson under RICO or any other law, make sure you have good grounds.
False Claims Act
Another federal law that encourages private citizens to sue is the False Claims Act. In this law, if you win, you get a large reward. I see less likelihood that Ed Magedson would come under this, but it's worth looking into. The main chance would be his use of and his advocacy of the use of federally related contacts or cooperations in his so-called "working with the FBI". The False Claims Act generally relates to persons getting money from the federal government improperly â or not paying the federal government as much as they were supposed to
ARIZONA -- RIPOFF REPORT VICTIMS! What to do if attacked by Ripoff Report, UltraDNS, Puregig, Prolexic **. Ripoff Report was set up to be a site that is beneficial to consumers, but it is much more than that as you know. it is set up to also extort money from companies. Ripoff Report (ROR) takes anonymous complaints with no regard to the truth,slander or harassment and post them on the internet.
Then ROR puts YOUR COMPANY name in Meta tags and submits it to search engines (without your permission). That is how it gets a high rank on search engines. Now if anyone types in your company's name in a search engine Ed's ROR pops up. Only way to get fixed is to pay Ed. That is extortion! Join Ed's consumer advocacy program (LOL).
Contact Arizona attorney general office RE: CIC 04-21090 Magedson, ED (602) 542-5763 **. Contact his service providers and sue them. They have a responsibility for their clients. If one of their clients had a site that promoted terrorism or child porn they would remove and have liability for servicing site, servers, or provide bandwidth. IF they didn't know about the content in site then they would stop doing business with ED.
Now, ROR is not as harsh as the two examples above, but it is harassment, slander, liable and illegal. If ED or the service providers throw up The 1996 act that supposed to protect free speech on internet it does not fit in this situation, but it does not cover extortion or any other illegal activities. Why do service providers have Terms Of Service Agreements or Acceptable Use Policies with their customers? It is very clearly spelled out what they tolerate. Your lawyer should have filed day with this one unless they like long drawn out legal battles. You can call personally too sometimes you can do more than lawyers.
If you have good lawyer they can cut Ed's legs out from under him By going after service providers! Ed is a ghost so you have to be crafty. There are many people that can stop Ed's service. Here is a list of people or companies that for now provide services to ED and ROR.**. She has accepted service for ED's legal matters. Contact her.
Jaburg & Wilk 3200 N. Central Ave Phoenix AZ 85012, 602-248-1000. UltraDNS Domain servers for Ed's site:
UDNS1.ULTRADNS.NET 18.104.22.168, UDNS2.ULTRADNS.NET 22.214.171.124. UltraDNS (650) 228-2300,
email@example.com, 888-367-4820. Prolexic Tech.- they provide bandwidth, 866-800-0366, firstname.lastname@example.org. Puregig provides a block of bandwidth for prolexic. (602)445-1850, Matt ** (general manager). They will try to make you run in circles,but they have Terms of Service agreement with their customers.
Contact Google, Yahoo, MSN, Lycos. They all have abuse departments. I got my ROR deindexed, but it took me a while. You have to e-mail and mainly call until you get something done. Use the same letter to each abuse department. Don't call Ed 602-518-4357 unless you want to. Only way to get anything done with him is to pay.
Go for crimianl case not just civil. Have fun, be honest and get your story out there. If you had a ripoff report on you being a child molestor, crooked business perdon, or a bad mom you would get it removed. You would just pay Ed.
How much $$$ have you lost or like me why would you want lies out there with no regards to truth. Remember he is advertising your company's name in Meta tags without your permission. Then how else does your ROR get ranked so high? Contact BBB. Ed's LLC Xcentric Ventures P.O box 470 Tempe AZ 85280, (602) 518-4357, EDitor@ripoffreport.com. This can be waste of time since Ed has PO box and cell phone number listed.
St. Kitts is made up to make companies run in circles just like Hy-cite did. Ed's company is in Arizona and his service providers are in the USA. Plus, Ed through his site does business in every state in the union. Companies in Florida have been suing Ed in their state. Plus, they are able to serve Maria C. Speth any legal papers.
HAMMER on the T.O.S. (terms of service provision at all internet companies). Look at the content of the post and see if it is in violation of their own policy. Why do they have this policy if they are protected by the 1996 act? LOL. If you know any information about Ed and Ripoff Report please post in any forum or message board or do it here. ** got all irate when we contacted their other service provider Sterling networks 602-682-2200
email@example.com. Now it seems like they(ROR) are no longer customers of Sterling Networks. Good stuff!!!
It sucks having people post things on the internet anonymously. Hope a lot of you can read more into this post. Do not let Ed get away with his scheme. Do something. We can easily get this taken care of if we all do something. Just how does it feel when you put your company name in a search engine and you see a Ripoff report there?
Here are legal judgements on Ed Magedson and Ripoff Report **. There is probably more. 17th Judicial court
Broward County Florida, case no: **. Ed Magedson and Xcentric Ventures LLC is the defendant. There are probably more. Just post if you find out any info if Ed jumps service providers or any is filed in court (anywhere). It is very hard for ed to switch service providers!
PHO -- Love to post things I find on the internet. I will spend hours every day posting info about Ripoff Report and Ed Magedson. Ripoff Report attacks my company. The complaint (url) is not even about my company. Ed knows he will lose service if companies press service providers, Puregig and Prolexic, STERLING NETWORK, AND ULTRA DNS SHOULD NOT WANT THE LIABLITY OF ED'S SITE. They cared why won't they explain their business relationship with Ed. They want us to go away or they will threaten to counter sue. All you want is the truth! If they want courts to handle this matter then they will get their wish.
How can they provide service to a company that is illegally doing things? If it was not for them Ed would not be in business. Yes Ed can go around and get new service providers, but that would take him down in rankings which would shut down his criminal site. Also, if you had the correspondence between you and service providers it would be hard for him to pick another service provider. Just show exactly what happened with his last service providers. Having a lawsuit on Ed is like suing a ghost, but the people responsible for getting Ed's malicious site out to the people can be fair game. Why would they want to defend Ed? Ed could pick an overseas service provider?
The reliability of those companies are very real. It will not get him ranked high in search engines. There are so many problems with that it's actually funny. Any info that anyone can get is appreciated. IP addresses, service providers,
any lawsuit, anything. The more we get this info out the better companies can defend themselves. Who cares what Ed and his cronies post. It actually gives different angles to attack. If Ed's site is attacking you unfairly with no regard to the truth then the easiest way I see that can get rid of this convicted criminal is to go after service providers.
If they bring up the 1996 Act then ask them how does that pertain to extortion, R.I.C.O., and all the many different laws that are being broken. Also, not only go after individually but go after him criminally. Since your business is based in whatever town you are in. I believe it will be smart to file in your own hometown. Let them come to you.
Even though the internet is crossing state lines which the F.B.I. would like to know about. Most police departments have an internet division. Hope a lot of you can read into this. Contact the Arizona attorney general office. Small claims may also be another way.
They will tell you Ed is a customer of a customer, but won't give you exactly their agreement for them to maliciously attack your company. Even if Ed is doing it. If it was not for them Ed would not have bandwidth. Prolexic tech is who Puregig passes the buck too. Who does what? There are many ways to skin a cat. It sucks having anonymous posting about your company. Imagine only way to remove anonymous posting was to pay Ed $50,000.00
and a monthly fee. WHY DOES ED'S ATTORNEY SEND LETTER TO SERVICE PROVIDERS? His lawyers are smarter than yours.
From my research, I have found some more information regarding Ed Magedson and Ripoff Report, the man and company who are attempting to extort money from YOU by posting false negative information. I have found the providers for the Ripoff Report site, and they all have the legal right and ability to stop servicing his site. It is in every one of their terms of service. They may throw all kinds of bs jargon at you as to not being responsible for Ed, but, if we continue to call them with complaints, they will have no option but to either explain their exact stance regarding Ed, or more likely, they will simply stop doing business with him.
Think about it. Any business wants customers, but not at the expense of dealing with all of the customer's problems. Here is the information that I have acquired. 1) Prolexic Technologies provides the bandwidth for Ripoff Report;
2) Puregig provides the bandwidth to Prolexic; 3) Sterling Network HOSTS ripoffreport.com. They ARE responsible if you have been extorted by Ed, because they are the ones providing the actual service; and 4) ULTRA DNS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ED'S DOMAIN. These companies have to bear responsibility for Ed's actions, because they are the ones providing him the website to extort you, or post libelous info about you.
Bartenders ARE responsible for providing alcohol to intoxicated individuals that they know are going to drive. Gun shops ARE responsible for selling guns to people who they know are going to go kill someone. Getaway drivers ARE responsible for driving bank robbers to and from the robbery. We must inform these companies of Ed Magedson's activities, and they WILL be responsible for his actions. You CAN serve these companies lawsuit papers no matter what they try to tell you. Call them. Make complaints. If there is no action, continue to call and make complaints.
If they still don't respond to the complaints, then you know that they are involved in Ed Magedson's scheme to extort and libel you, and SERVE THEM A LAWSUIT! They have money, and they will HAVE to pay! If we all do this, they will have no choice but to take action against Ed and his crooked activities.
ARIZONA -- I have been watching Ed Magedson from Ripoffreport come onto these sites and attack people who have legitimate claims against his site. Whenever one of these people, who are simply defending their name, writes up their story of being libeled by Ed Magedson, he and his staff immediately work to have any negative remarks about Ripoffreport removed.
I find it hypocritical that Ed even as Ed is having negative postings about himself removed, he refuses to remove any negative postings from HIS site, even when they are obviously lies because he states that "they are anonymous postings and he has no liability" according to some 1996 Act. A Wisconsin court ruled that they had no place in a lawsuit against Ed, not because of some 1996 Act, but because they felt they had no jurisdiction because Ed was in St. Kitts.
Well, he was never doing business in St. Kitts, but simply used the offshore address to try to defer any legitimate lawsuits that he knows he would lose otherwise. Luckily for me, and EVERYONE that has been maliciously and falsely attacked on Ripoffreports, Ed is indeed based in the US and any lawsuits against him are under the jurisdiction of US courts, as long as you have the right information. Ed Magedson is not in St. Kitts, he is in Arizona. If you have been maliciously and falsely attacked by Ed Magedson, then this is the name and address that you need **.
As you can see, in an attempt to slither under the radar and be "above the law", he lists only a P.O. Box and cell phone number as his business contact information. (What legitimate businessperson uses a P.O. Box and personal cell phone as business contacts? I can only think of drug dealers, hit men, thieves, and any other slimy, crooked individuals that luckily I've only seen in movies.) Several lawsuit papers have SUCCESSFULLY been served to Ed Magedson. Here is one of them: In the Circuit Court of the 17th Judicial Circuit In and For Broward County, Florida Case No: 04-17721-21. Go look it up!
There are also formal complaints filed against Ed Magedson at the Office of the Attorney General of Arizona because of the CRIMINAL nature of his site: CIC 04-21090. Call them about it! Voice your complaint! (602) 542-5763.
Also, the companies that provide the services for Ed Magedson, and enable him to ILLEGALLY attack you, try to hide behind the fact that Ed is "only a customer." Any court will find them responsible because they are the ones providing the service. It is no different than a getaway driver for bank robbers. The driver is just as guilty, even if he doesn't know about the robbery.
These companies admit nothing except that "Ed is a customer." But, these companies DO know about Ed's illegal activity, he simply pays them to let him be. When you do press for more information about their relationship with Ed, and get through the circles of BS, these companies' lawyers will tell you some BS about some 1996 Act, but that is simply to discourage you.
TALK TO A LAWYER! This Act does NOT protect them. (Look at the service agreements for these companies. They do know that they are liable, and they have provisions to allow them to stop any service if they feel it makes them liable for lawsuits and/or criminal acts. They will shut Ed down, if we push forth against them. Unless they are in bed with Ed and his criminal empire.) They cannot win a countersuit against you, it is obvious to anyone who reads his site that he libels hundreds of different people and companies. All you are going for is the truth, and that is what courts are for.
Also, contact your local BBB, they are well aware of Ed's activities, and welcome any new information about his illegal attacks against innocent people. Ed Magedson believes that he is all knowing and that he alone should have the power to be the judge, jury, and executioner. Watch this posting. Ed will probably have it removed, even though he would refuse to do the same on his site. But this posting is all true, and his site is full of lies.
And remember, Ed is illegally using your company name to advertise his site. He includes your company name in his metatags for search engine submissions so that his site full of lies will come up under a search of your business name. THIS IS ILLEGAL. He CANNOT use your licensed company name to advertise his site, unless he has your expressed written permission.
PHOENIX, ARIZONA -- First, let me tell you my real name, unlike other posters who hide behind a pseudo name. I'm Maria **. I have been the attorney for the operators of Rip-off Report website for over six years, but I'm not writing this at their request or on their behalf (I'm not even billing them for it). I'm writing this because after months of reading the postings on the internet written by Federated Financial, attacking me, Rip-off Report, Ed Magedson, attorneys in Florida representing Rip-off Report, and others who provide services to Rip-off Report, I wanted to tell the straight story. No mudslinging, no name calling, just the facts.
About me: If you have read the postings by Federated Financial, you've seen a picture of me and you know my home address, my home phone, and my property tax information. This is all public information that you could find elsewhere on the internet.
What you don't know is that I have an amazing husband, two school-age children, and two Bichon/Poodle mixes. You also wouldn't know that I recently had to explain to my children why their Mom was being called a “blatant liar” on the internet and that they have to be real careful when they answer the telephone or the door because some guys that are mad at my client have put all of our home information on the same website where they vilify me.
About Federated Financial: Federated Financial is a consumer credit counseling company. There's a non-profit company and a for-profit company. I haven't researched the difference between the two, but they seem to both be operated by Steve Miller and Chris **. ** is a disbarred attorney who, under oath, couldn't remember why he was disbarred. It seems that something like that would have left more of an impression on him.
About Rip-off Report: Rip-off Report is a website where people post complaints about companies. Ed Magedson started the website so that businesses were accountable for their actions. The internet is a powerful tool. He figured it could be used to put pressure on businesses to provide good customer service. If customers complain and those complaints can be read by anyone with a web connection, then businesses will be more likely to address the complaint rather than get a bad reputation.
In most cases, it has worked really well. Sometimes, though, the business would rather attack Rip-off Report than change their business practices. Today, Rip-off Report is operated by Xcentric Ventures, llc in Arizona. Ed Magedson is the manager of the llc.
There are over 140,000 main reports posted on Rip-off Report, many of which have follow-up reports, and the hit counter is at well over four billion visitors. As popular as the website is, it is also the subject of much controversy. Xcentric and Ed are threatened by companies every day. Some threats are violent and come in emails, phone calls, voice messages, and letters threatening to kill Ed and “those who help him” if he doesn't remove a report. Some threats are technical, like attempts to hack the website and denial of service attacks on the website. Most of the threats are legal.
Almost every day, companies and their attorneys threaten that if a posting is not removed, they will sue the website. Many companies do file lawsuits and, although federal law prevents the court from treating the operator of the website as the publisher or author of content it did not create, some companies try to circumvent that law by claiming that Xcentric or Ed Magedson wrote the reports. In reality, Xcentric's agents have not written any reports or titles for many years for exactly this reason.
Federated Financial on Rip-off Report. In 2000, two reports were posted on Rip-off Report by someone claiming that Federated didn't do what they promised and ruined their credit. Another complaint was posted in 2003 and two more were posted in 2004. That is actually not a lot of complaints for a company that has many customers. Federated Financial posted a well written, well reasoned rebuttal to the reports. It could have ended there and everyone would have saved a lot of money and aggravation. Instead, Steve Miller called Ed Magedson and physically threatened him if he did not remove the reports.
I was not a party to the conversations, and I am relying on Ed's version of it. I did listen to tapes and read emails where Ed Magedson confronted Steve Miller about threatening him and Miller did not deny it. After the threats, Magedson then took the position that someone who threatens him does not get to use his company's property for free, so he removed the rebuttals posted by Miller. From there, things spiraled out of control and since then both Miller and ** have spent an enormous amount of time and money attempting to destroy Ed, Rip-off Report, and anyone who provides services to them.
Federated Financial filed a lawsuit against Xcentric and Ed in Florida. We moved to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction in Florida and they have filed many motions and forced numerous court appearances that have resulted in attorney fees far beyond any of our other cases at that procedural stage.
** threatened our local counsel on the way out of the courtroom (told him he better watch his back) and when the judge indicated that she was inclined to grant our motion because this case should have been filed in Arizona, they filed a motion against her, accusing her of being biased. She recently recused herself and the case has been re-assigned to another judge.
After the lawsuit was filed, and after Federated began its internet campaign against Rip-off Report, Magedson, and those who provide services to the company, more postings appeared on Rip-off Report about Federated, Miller and **. These postings are as vicious as Federated's postings about Magedson. Miller and ** are convinced that these postings were authored by Ed because of the content and timing. What they haven't considered is that Rip-off Report and Ed are very popular and there are tens of thousands of people who are fans of Rip-off Report.
Anyone of them could have made these postings in response to Federated's attacks on Rip-off Report and Ed. Ed also has enemies who could have made the postings, knowing that they would infuriate Miller and McFarland and escalate the attacks against Ed. Ed has sworn under oath that he did not author those postings or ask anyone else to make them. Miller and McFarland refuse to believe him. The postings on Rip-off Report about Federated Financial have harmed Ed, not helped him, and if Miller and McFarland considered this rationally instead of emotionally, they might realize that.
In Summary. So there you have it. If you have been reading any of these many postings about me, about Ed's other attorneys, and about Ed, maybe you have wondered how much of it was true and what's behind it all. I will tell you that I am not Ed's partner or his shill, I am his lawyer. Also, I did not “blatantly lie” to the court. I represented to the Court that Ed and Xcentric do not do business in Florida because they don't. They provide services to two Florida companies, but all of those services were provided here in Arizona.
I hope this has answered some of your questions. I am going to attempt to post this on Federated Financial's website. If you read it there, then we all should give them credit for being willing to post it. If you don't see it there, then you know that they would not publish it.
There have been so many inaccuracies and misportrayals of Federated that it is hard to know where to begin addressing the tales. Since coming across all of this rhetoric about Federated I have done some independent research and wish to share my findings.
Federated has served thousands of clients yet the only place you find complaints about their service is on Ripoff Report. They have helped many, many people through a tough time in their lives with assistance from certified professionals. Federated is ISO certified. That means they have gone through a tough process of internal audits, uniform quality standards metrics and fulfilling requirements for ongoing training of staff and self monitoring of quality standards. In addition, the monitoring entity conducts its own assessment at least annually if not semi-annually.
If there were any truth to the claims of impropriety they would have lost their designation. In addition, Federated is a member in good standing with the BBB. Personally, I don't see much value in the BBB, but many people feel it is one more measure of a reputable company. What the critics don't say, is that there are actually TWO BBB's to belong to.
One is the regular BBB there in that area. The other is the BBB ONLINE. Since he was not made aware of the difference between the two, he was using the BBB logo on his website much as others use the logo on stationery as status of a reputable business. As soon as he was informed of the difference he, being an ethical business person, removed the logo from the site. However, one call call confirm that Federated is indeed a business in good standing.
Some people have asked me why I 'have it in' for this guy, Ed. I don't, it is nothing personal. I don't know him personally. Neither do I know the owners of Federated or Hy-Cite or any of the other companies Ed has targeted for his scam. I just don't like what he is doing. I feel it is important for people to stand up and not allow self-styled journalists to lie to them, or consumer watch groups (or individuals) to profit from making false claims.
The problem with Ed's site is that there is no way to truly address issues the complainants have. Most business owners are anxious to right any perceived or actual wrongs. In the case of Ed requiring the business owners to pay for the right to rebut the complaint is just plain wrong.
The other problem is that since Ed posts everything anonymously, there is no way for the business to know if it is a legitimate complaint, neither is there a way for the business owner to address the person's issue and resolve the problem. And Ed will not cooperate in that regard, as, again, he requires a fee to himself as a condition of the owner addressing consumer complaints.
I have seen copies of the letters Ed has sent people who wish to resolve a complaint. He requires a minimum of $5,000 and then a monthly fee. Federated has the original copy they would be happy to share. A recent newscast also showed the same type of correspondence from Magedson to another company and there are complaints from others as well.
I hope this will help the blind followers of Ed to see more clearly. Instead of imitating the Enquirer, these people who consider themselves journalists should do some checking around before they go maligning others without just cause. Get your facts straight. You go messing around on other people and pretty soon you'll have stink on you.