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Posted by Angie T on 09/01/2005
TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- I have been a member of All American Fitness in Tulsa for about 5 years. I have noticed that the Broken Arrow location is the company's "baby" and the two Tulsa locations are consistently shortchanged. From the newest equipment to the classes they offer (times and variety) to overall maintenance, the B.A. club always comes out ahead, while the two Tulsa locations remain neglected. About 2 months ago the 69th & Lewis location had a fire that has completely closed it down for an undisclosed amount of time. (Rumor is until Thanksgiving!!) I now have to travel to the next closest location, 31st & Garnett (Which is still across town for me). I am a runner and the air circulation in this location is so poor that the treadmill area is consistently between 77-80 degrees. This is unacceptable and unsafe for long distance runners. If I wanted to run in the heat, I would stay close to home and run Riverside. Even though I have called the corporate office 4 times and spoke to numerous people at that club over the past 2 months, nothing has been done to correct the problem. Not even so much as a fan in that area! (Which I have specifically requested) The place in the club that should be the coolest (near the cardio machines) is actually much hotter than any other area of the club! All American needs to get on the ball and step up the service and amenities in the Tulsa locations.

     
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Posted by aaf_sucks on 2006-06-20:
Don't expect much from calling the main office at All American Fitness... they are absolutely worthless and useless. All of them!!
Posted by therapon24601 on 2007-01-26:
I am a member of an All-American fitness club in Oklahoma City at 104th and Western. I and others members have to complain for two months before things are fixed. Specifically the sauna in the men's locker room was broke in July. It was finally fixed sometime in September. Now we have one shower that hase been broken since 12/2/06 that I know of and another that broke this morning. I work out at 5:30 am when there is only one employee on staff and he is always working out with his girlfriend while I'm there. They can't even keep the place clean. I visited their location on Northwest Expressway in OKC and the members there had the same complaints. If you are thinking of joining a gym I would recommend against All-American. I am currently looking for a new place myself.
Posted by jeanteddy123 on 2008-04-28:
All American - cheater!
Posted by amaythest on 2010-01-21:
IF YOUR SMART STAY AWAY FROM THE 69TH & LEWIS GYM.
THE AREA MANAGER THERE HAS BEEN DOING THE SWITCH & BAIT ON CONTRACTS. PEOPLE HAS CALLED CORPORATE TO CORRECT THE CONTRACTS OR CANCELING THEM. IT HAS GONE THROUGH 3 GENERAL MANAGERS. THE CLEANING GUY THERE GETS YELLED & GRIPED @ ALL THE TIME. HE DOES HIS JOB. GOD BLESS THE CLEANING GUYS HEART. POOR GUY GETS PICKED ON A LOT BY THE AREA MANAGER ROLANDO M. ALL THE TIME. I`VE BEEN IN THERE WHERE HE THREATENS TO FIRE HIM & REPLACE HIM WHO WILL TAKE ORDERS LIKE A DOG. THEY FAVOR SKINNY CHICKS AS RECEPTIONIST. IF YOU ARE SLIGHTLY OVER WEIGHT & NOT ATTRACTIVE YOU WILL GET IGNORED LIKE NO TOMORROW. THE GYM DOES STAY FAIRLY CLEAN. I GIVE IT AN A+ ON THAT NOTE. READ THE CONTRACTS BEFORE YOU SIGN. THE TRICK IS IF YOU CANCEL IN 3 DAYS OR LESS YOU WILL AVOID FEES BUT IF YOU WAIT YOU GOTTA CALL ABC FINICAL & PUT IT IN WRITING 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE & PAY A $100.00 TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT. THEY TRY TO TALK YOU TO KEEP THE CONTRACT MAKE THE PAYMENT LOWER BY A FEW DOLLARS TO KEEP YOU HAPPY. THIS COMPANY IS SCANDALOUS. ESPECIALLY BY THIS BRANCH. PLUS CARS HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO VALUABLES HAVE BEEN STOLEN. CARS HAS BEEN STOLEN AS WELL. PLUS IF YOU GOT LONG HAIR & A MALE PLEASE DO NOT GO THERE & APPLY FOR A JOB. THEY WILL FORCE YOU TO CUT YOUR HAIR.

I CALL THIS THE HITLER BRANCH OF ALL AMERICAN.
ALL THIS COMPANY IS ALL ABOUT YOUR IMAGE ON STAFF OR AS A MEMBER THERE.
A FAT CHICK COULDN`T GET A JOB THERE CAUSE THEY ONLY WANT SKINNY WOMEN CAUSE THEY SAID THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN & SEE. NO FAT CHICKS WILL GET HIRED THERE. MY FRIEND USED TO WORK THERE. SHE ISN`T IMPRESSED ABOUT THIS. THE OTHER STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE IS TRUE ABOUT THEM.

NO SUGAR COATING WHAT SO EVER. THIS STATEMENT IS TRUE & REAL FACTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-01-21:
amaythest... it's bait and switch, not switch and bait.
And this review is about 5 years old.
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-01-21:
...And this review is nearly 5 years old!
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I was scammed/tricked into signing up for 2 years
Posted by ScammedByAllAmericanFitness on 10/08/2007
OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA -- On July 31, I went to the All American Fitness center located on NW Expressway in OKC to see about signing up for a short-term membership. I was enrolled at a beauty school at the time of the inquiry, and I knew I would be graduating within the next month, so I only wanted to sign up for a month at a time, if it was possible.

I spoke to a man that is the Asst. Manager at the facility. His initials are D.P. I explained to him how I was going to graduate soon, and that I didn't want to sign up long term with any gym right now, so I asked him, "Is there any way I can sign up for just a month at a time?"

"We'll hook you up," is what he said.

He took me on a tour of the facilities, showed me all of the equipment, the usual, and then he took me to the office to discuss prices. He asked me if I would be interested in getting a personal trainer.

I had just quit smoking in May, and I was rewarding myself by joining a gym. I always wanted to have a personal trainer to teach me how to properly execute moves, engage my muscles/core, help me with a nutrition plan, etc., so I figured, what the heck. Let's sign up for a trainer.

He told me the trainer for a period of six weeks would be around $375.00. I then asked him how much would that be with just one month of membership. He told me that my ONE MONTH would cost me $45 dollars. Considering the membership included aerobics, a sauna and access to a swimming pool and hot tub, I assumed that was a feasible price.

I then asked him, "Since the personal trainer is a little more than one month, if I decide I don't want to continue my membership after a month, I can still come to see the trainer for the additional two weeks without reupping my membership, right?"

He says yes. Now he does "crunch some numbers" for me at this time, and tells me how much it WOULD be if I decided to sign up for more than a month. I just nod and say, okay, whatever, but I make sure he knows I'm only interested in the month to month basis.

He NEVER tells me it's not possible to sign up for just a month at a time; he never tells me that in order to have a personal trainer, you HAVE To sign up for a long-term membership.

I was supposed to be at school at 11a.m. It was around 10:50, and I stressed my concern with Mr. D.P. that I would be late to school, so I asked if I could just come back in later to finalize the membership. He says, "This will only take a few more minutes."

He goes to get the contract, and while he's gone, he has me fill out another sheet that has my personal info on it.

About five minutes later, he returns, with the contract in hand. He sets it down, he shows me where to sign for the personal trainer. I sign it. He shows me where to sign for the ONE MONTH membership. He says, "and this is where you sign agreeing you want the one month for $45 dollars." I sign it.

He then has me sign the bottom, agreeing to authorize them to use my credit card to pay for my personal trainer and one month membership. The total was $422.15. I sign it.

He takes the contract, quickly tears off my copy, folds it a couple of times, and then places it in a huge white envelope. I'm in a huge hurry to not be late to school, and I'm giddy with excitement that I have just signed up for a personal trainer... so STUPID STUPID me flies outta there without going over my contract.

I go to the gym a total of three times. Twice to work with my trainer, and once to work out on the cardio equipment. Exactly seven days later, I receive a phone call from the gym.

"Hi, this is so-and-so with All American Fitness. I'm calling to see how you'd like to set up your payment plan for your gym membership."

WOAH.

"What payment plan? I already paid for my PT and my month's worth of membership with my credit card."

The caller goes on to say, "Well ma'am, it says here you signed up for 24 months."

?????????????

I run to get my contract, and as clear as day, on the front of my contract, there was a section that Mr. D.P. had filled out without my knowledge, where he "crunched the numbers" away from me and filled in 24-months worth of membership on my contract. He had to have filled it in before he brought the contract to me to sign.

I never noticed it when I signed the contract, because
1. I was in a huge hurry
2. I was excited and wasn't thinking I had been tricked
and
3. I didn't realize it at the time, but Mr. D.P. had his hand resting on the contract, conveniently over the area where he filled out the 24-month membership, as I signed it.

I told this person on the phone that this wasn't correct, that I wasn't paying for something that I never intended on getting, and that I would be at All American tomorrow at 10a.m. to get this sorted out.

I get to the gym the next morning, and I tell a lady at the front desk my name, and I say, "I was tricked into signing up for 2 years worth of membership here, and I want to talk to Mr. D.P. RIGHT NOW."

I stayed extremely calm, I didn't lose my cool, and she goes to a back office to get him.

About ten minutes later, she resurfaces, without Mr. D.P.

"Mr. P wanted me to tell you that the matter is out of his hands, and that if you want to cancel, you have to contact home office, because your three day grace period is over."

Three day grace period??? What's that??? That's something else he never told me, or else I would have read my contract first thing!!!

So I say to her, "So he won't even come out and talk to me about it?"

She just shakes her head no.

Now if that isn't a sign of guilt, I don't know what is. If he's innocent, and I'm the one at fault, then why wouldn't this man just come out and try to clear things up with me?

So I ask for his manager.

"He is the manager."

"Then who do I need to talk to about what he did to me?"

She tells me to call home office. I call home office (from my school later that day) and ask for Ms. M.W. Ms. W. is in charge of cancellations. She hears me out, gets the idea of what has happened, and then tells me she'll look into it and call me right back. She never called me back.

The next morning, I call her again, go over with her again what happened to me, and then she asks me, "Did you sign the contract? Didn't you read it?"

Yeah, I read the contract, AFTER I found out I had been scammed. I admit to her that me not reading the contract was a HUGE mistake, because it's obvious I shouldn't have trusted anyone working for All American.

"Well, you signed a contract. It's a matter of 'he said, she said' now."

I try to explain to her that yes, I was naive and stupid for not going over the contract, but when you're a busy student and mother of four, in between studying, cooking, eating and sleeping, it doesn't occur to you to make sure you read a contract you THOUGHT was legit.

She just says, "Well, we get people like you trying to back out of their obligations all of the time. How do I know you're not lying, and even if he did trick you, you still signed the contract. Simple as that."

She says she's going to call the Asst. Manager and get his side of the story, and she'd call me back. Of course, when she calls back, she says Mr. D.P. (of course) said that I knew what I was signing, and that if I didn't know what I was signing, then why did I agree to the "ALL CLUBS" feature.

All clubs??? He told me all clubs was a feature he would add on because I didn't want tanning with my month's worth of membership. He NEVER SAID it was something I had to do if I was signing up long term. He never uttered the words, 24 months or 2 years. He knew I never intended on signing up for a long term membership!!!

She didn't give two flips that the Asst. Manager at the NW Expy facility is deliberatly scamming people. She just kept saying, "Well, you signed the contract. It's your problem now that you have to pay for it, and we won't drop it."

I informed Ms. W. that I would be contacting the Better Business Bureau, and that I would make sure the local news stations in OKC would hear about what happened to me.

"Are you threatening me??"

"If that's what you want to call it, sure."

I have not made a single payment to ABC Finance, the financial institution that handles money for All American. Since I never made a payment after they sent me snail mail, they took it upon themselves to take out a total of $67.76 from my Visa Card I used to pay for the original $422.15 I DID agree to.

I called my credit card, and it is impossible to stop them (ABC Finance) from taking the money out. They didn't even take out the $45 amount, because they knew if I had blocked their payments (which I did attempt to do with Visa) that they could go around it by taking out a larger amount.

I am making it my personal mission to make sure that people looking into a gym in Oklahoma City, or anywhere in Oklahoma DO NOT sign up with All American Fitness. If you do, MAKE SURE YOU READ YOUR CONTRACT!!!! I admit my fault at not doing so, but it's disgusting that someone can take advantage of someone's naivety, and trick them into something that can wreck their financial standing. I refuse to go back to the gym, even though I am technically paying for a membership, unwillingly, through my credit card. I don't want to have anything to do with such a shoddy business.

I consider this an extremely difficult lesson learned. A day doesn't go by that I'm not stressed out with the thought of what has happened, and the thought of the debt I now have due to them.

Please, if you've had the same type thing happen to you with this gym, post it here for everyone to read. Word of mouth is either your best friend or WORST enemy.
     
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Posted by Skye on 2007-10-08:
How were you tricked?? Did you even bother to read what you were signing??

The sales rep is only interested in commission. They will say anything to get you to sign, that's why its so important to read every piece of documentation. Everyone is always in a rush, and thats what they hope for.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-08:
You need to read any contract entirely before signing it. Anyone tries to rush you into a contract, walk away. He does not have any (psyche) power over you. Get up and leave…

When you got home, you should immediately read over the contract terms closely and cancel the gym membership without any penalty.

Most gyms’ membership comes with cooling-off period (few days). You can legally opt out a contract without financial and/or legal penalty.

It is also a FTC consumer protection law.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/products/pro03.shtm

It is an expensive lesson to learn…
Posted by bargod on 2007-10-08:
Have you tried canceling the visa card to stop further withdrawls? Not sure if it's possible but may be worth a try. Also follow up with the news station thing. Alot of them have a troubleshooter line and they love storys like this. Don't give up.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-08:
Bad idea. She signed a legal binding contract. If she does not pay, they could sue her for the remaining (unused) amount of the contract. He credit score will also be ruined.
Posted by Principissa on 2007-10-08:
I agree with Happy, if she changes her information or refuses to pay, they will come after her. She signed the contract stating she understood all the terms and conditions. If she was that uncomfortable she should have left immediately.
Posted by Skye on 2007-10-08:
She also has 3 days to cancel. She would of just had to send her cancellation in writing, certified mail, return receipt requested.

Why do people who do not read the contracts complain later that they were taken?? I just don't get it. We, as adults are responsible for our own actions and consequences.
Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2007-10-08:
Between being a busy mother of 6 kids, a full time job, being a student and in between studying, cooking, eating and sleeping, I still read my gym contract and knew what I was getting myself into, and now I have successfully canceled my membership.
Posted by bargod on 2007-10-09:
Wow. people on here sure arn't positive. They just like to crap all over everyone who makes a mistake.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-09:
bargod, welcome to the group. But they say its positive unless I said it then it's negative. But if we only had postive and no negative the light wouldn't come on when one turns on the switch.
Posted by bargod on 2007-10-09:
Noted. I just like to be helpful unless they deserve to be crapped on.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-09:
I agree but then who makes the judgement?
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-09:
I agree with everyone that said you should have read the contract, but it is such a shame that people cannot be trusted to tell the truth at many businesses. I feel your pain. The only thing to be gained out of the whole experience is that you learned a valuable lesson--unfortunately the hard way. Most people have had that happen to them at least once in their lives--that's how we learn. Passing the word, as you are, is the best revenge.
Posted by bargod on 2007-10-09:
I judge all. didn't you notice the last 3 letters in my name.LOL.
Dianec. you are right.Lesson learned I hope.
Posted by ScammedByAllAmericanFitness on 2007-10-10:
Yes, you are all right. I was a complete fool for not reading my contract over. I do believe I admitted that in my post, and called myself stupid for not doing so.

This is the first time I've ever signed up with a gym. I wasn't thinking about the possibility of this guy completely scamming me, and taking advantage of the fact that I was naive and in a hurry. The fact of the matter is, I posted this here to let those who MIGHT be considering signing up with All American, that this is the kind of behavior their MANAGEMENT is conducting: scamming members so they can profit. They don't care two flips about their members if they are willing to trick them just to make a buck.

By the way, I did try to block payments on my credit card, but of course, my credit card company told me it wasn't possible, so I had to contact ABC Financial, who is in charge of my payments through AAF now. So I contacted ABC, and I spoke to a very sweet girl that works there. I told her my story, and asked if they could please stop taking payments off of my card, and she kind of sighed and chuckled, then said, "I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh, it's just astounding how many people just like you call and tell me the exact same story, having to do with All American. I wish I could warn all of you not to sign up before you ever even walk in the door."

That was coming from an employee of the company that takes payments for this gym.

So yeah, call me a fool for not reading over my contract. I know that. The point is, this company is purposefully taking advantage of people. Yes, it is a hard lesson learned.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-10:
ScammedByAllAmericanFitness -- You got to realize that most the people on here are perfect and never ever make mistakes but unfortunately I don't fall in that category so I am very grateful when people such as yourself take the time share your experiences and "lessons learned". I gotta be honest I learn far more from other's mistakes than I do from other's perfection.

ScammedByAllAmericanFitness -- Thanks for posting and good luck be with you!
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-10:
Stew, you are wise, I nominate you for your 3rd star.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-10:
ScammedByAllAmericanFitness, I must admit I was scammed by Bally once and I even read the contract that I never signed until they crossed out the things I would not agree to, they still tried to scam me. However I could never agree with PirateWithParrot.

Good review and thanks for the information.
Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2007-10-10:
I actually learned from this site. I am a very pessimistic person and always seem to see the bad side of things. I have learned alot from this site and from some of my own experiences. I don't necessarily agree with Stew on his last comment, but he usually hits the nail on the head.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-10:
Stew, your wrong again. I admit when I'm wrong, I picked the Chargers to go to the SuperBowl weeks ago. Lid's admits he is wrong about never wanting to move back to California. DB is wrong when she says college football stinks. See we all admit were wrong about stuff.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-10-10:
CrazyRedHead, if you saw Stew in person you would know he almost never hits the nail on the head, most of the ting he hits his thumb, true!
Posted by CrazyRedHead on 2007-10-11:
I'm sure that Stew is a nice person regardless, anyways I have a lot of bandage and iodine.
Posted by Jaxs170 on 2007-12-28:
I am having a huge fight with another OKC gym regarding a cancellation. I would advise you read the Oklahoma Health Spa act and compare it's provisions against what is contained in your contract. Read both carefully and make sure they included all of the required provisions of the act because if they didn't you may be able to void the contract.
Posted by ScammedByAllAmericanFitness on 2008-01-29:
Thank you for posting that, Jaxs. I will go over that with a fine-toothed comb.

Just to let you guys/gals know, I have been working with ABC Financial, who completely understands that I was scammed. They have been nice enough to waive my "gym maintenance" fees for me, but as far as cancelling my contract, they can't do that unless I actually move or have a dr's note claiming I am unfit to workout. 9_9 I actually had TWO employees at ABC tell me they hear from people that were tricked by AAF attempting to cancel on a regular basis. Just wanted to touch base with you guys to let you know things still haven't been resolved. I actually had an employee at ABC encourage me to "fake" moving so I could cancel. Pretty sad.
Posted by ScammedByAllAmericanFitness on 2008-09-09:
New update with great results!!

AAF actually attempted to take me to court to get the money they scammed out of me. I had a lawyer send their lawyer a letter showing that we were going to contest the action, and long story short, they decided to "cancel" my membership for me instead. I got out of having to pay them the balance, and they completely gave me a clean slate, because they KNEW they had no chance at winning.

My attorney was ready to battle it out with them and have them pay all of his attorney fees. Needless to say, this company makes its money by scamming people, taking them to court, and then collecting their money after people "no show" on their court appearance. They were betting on me NOT showing up or contesting it, and instead, when I fought back, they backed down.

My attorney told me that gyms like this are notorious for signing up people under false pretenses and bilking them out of money when the victim of the scam rolls over and gives up. He said that 9 times out of 10, of the person simply has a lawyer contest the matter, they will drop it.

So, the moral of the story is, IF you are unfortunate enough to get scammed by a gym, then DON'T ROLL OVER and give up!! Show them you are ready to do battle, and contest it. They are making their big bucks this way, and you as the consumer must fight back to keep them from winning!
Posted by Bailey77 on 2008-09-16:
All American Fitness wronged me in a very similar way. My friend and I signed a joint contract, explaining to the manager that we intended to terminate the contract in July. She assured us we could cancel at any time for a 100 dollar fee, and so we signed. Come to find out, the 100 dollar cancellation she so loftily reassured us with is only applicable when the member moves 25 miles away from any All American Fitness center, aquires employment atleast 25 miles away from any All American Fitness, and proves both changes. Yes, I know I was naive, but I was nonetheless swindled via corrupt managing by a company who knows they can legally get away with it.
Posted by duchessboss on 2009-09-25:
I was also tricked by All American Fitness here in the Tulsa area. They advertised a year for 99. They don't tell you that it is only for three days a week and only limited to one location. Eventually I signed up for a three
yera committment which is going to cost me almost $400 a year. It has been one day since I signed up. Hopefully I can get out of it.
Posted by Mike on 2011-06-11:
Look I used to work at a gym and guess what it was All America Fitness on NWE and the May Hefner location and we got this crap all of the time. Look I get that some clubs are liars and I understand that people are stupid and dont read things. But why is that any gyms fault? Here is the deal---the gym is selling you a membership. they even show you option of memberships to buy. Lets say you buy a 600 Membership for 2 years. So, you have now as an adult purchased a membership, now rather than you paying the 600 up front the gym lets you pay it out over 2 years. Well if you bought a car for $600 and the finance company gives you money--guess what if you dont drive the car after 3 months that is not the finance companies fault and they are due their money--just because you dont wish to attend--that os fine dont go--but you still owe the money for the membership you bought. And this bullshit, im hard to see....uh then you must be hard of thinking as well because what moron who cant see straight signs ANYTHING without some assistance. Look YOU bought the membership and agreed to pay it out over time. It is NOT any fitness place to say **** it they dont come---YOU agreed to buy said membership nd they were kind enough to let you pay it out.
Posted by thedementedbunny on 2011-07-08:
Same thing happened to me. I was in a rush as well to get an ad deal, they told me I had 5 min to get the deal and rushed me into signing after I said "well I can always cancel, right?" AND HE SAID YES! That was a bold face LIE! I didn't even get the deal cause it was a SCAM. Now I can't cancel and they are charging me $60/mo for a 24 MONTH CONTRACT...which I was told was a 12 mo contract.
Posted by Mike Chen on 2011-12-13:
You think you had it bad? at least you can still transfer your contract to someone.

I was tricked even worst. my first time joining a gym. I was living abroad in another country. I could barely read the language. I brought a friend along to help me translate. The gym sales employee was acting extremely nice, but with malicious intent in their hearts. They mislead me to believe I was signing up for paying by month to month. I told them that I didn't have a credit card. They said that it was okay. They said I had to pay the first and last month of the gym membership fees.

I thought to myself okay then the I'm paying for a minimum of two months. I went to the gym twice a week for a little less than two months. After that I stopped going.

On the 3rd month, the gym called me and ask me, "Why I haven't been to the gym?" I told them that I didn't want to go anymore, and then I ask if I decide to come back, "Do I just pay for another month?"
They told me, "Yes, you can come back anytime."

8 Months Later... The gym sent me a bill for 8 months of gym fees. They said I signed a contract for 10-months.

So I signed up for 10-month, but I was totally unaware, and none of the employees said anything about it. I was not even billed until the very end of my contract. It sucks because I can't read the contract and I was totally scammed.
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Stay Away From All American
Posted by Mikex on 02/22/2006
TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- The All American Fitness Center suffered fire damage and recently reopened a few weeks ago. There is a large banner at 69th & Lewis stating "$17.00 month NO CONTRACT"

What is a contract. Lawyers can define it as
"Contract: A negotiated oral or written agreement setting forth the terms for an exchange of value between parties (which may be individuals or companies) and under which each party promises to perform an obligation. Certain terms, such as the obligations to be performed and the terms for setting price or compensation must be mutually understood, known in legal lingo as a "meeting of the minds," and promised to by the parties to form a legal contract."

So All American has no contract? Wrong. When I called for the details on what is included with the $17.00 month, I was told by one of the center's consultants that $17.00 a month was all there was and it covered Mon Wed Fri or for $24.00 you could come in any day or as often as you desire. Very fair at this point. Now I ask if there are any other fees or charges, the man says only a credit card or a bank draft for the monthly fees and there is a $199.00 one time fee which he can reduce to $50.00 today if I come in for a tour. I tell him I will be in Wed after work. He calls me Tuesday wondering why I am not there, I remind him its Wed. My wife and I arrive for the tour at 6PM today. A nice young man gives us a tour and takes us to the table. He is dismissed as the original man I talked to appears. Now I ask to see if there is a agreement may I see it now. He showed me the agreement and I stated it was a contract and the Billboard on Lewis stated NO CONTRACT - He wadded up our application, walked away stating, "Have a nice day". All American:

1-Lies NO Contract and asks you to sign a contract
2-You are treated rudely if you ask for the truth.
     
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Posted by tander on 2006-02-22:
False Advertising, Not Good!!
Posted by tander on 2006-02-22:
Snap a picture of their sign that says "No Contract" and fight it!
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-15:
Have you ever dealt with a gym before? Of course you need to sign an agreement, it's as much for your protection as it is for theirs. The contract that they are talking about with their advertising is a contract like what Bally's would have you sign, saying you are committed to making that payment for the next 2, or 3, or 4 years. You know, like your cell phone company.

The $17/month deal does not require that you sign one of those commitments. You can end your monthly obligation at any time. This is not something that would be an option if you were to sign the "contract" that they are talking about in their advertising. Nitpick on semantics if you want. But you are wrong if you think they screwed just because they asked you to sign an agreement.

Ignorance must be bliss.
Posted by jeanteddy123 on 2008-04-28:
I know how the All American cheats the customers after they coaxed me to sign an agreement! I am so glad finally I quit from it!
Posted by CheapItemsStore on 2009-09-16:
All American Fitness is a lier, in fact they got me too!! I am trying to get out of it, I told the manager that I don't want a contract and he told me its not a contract but I have to sign the papers. Can someone help me what to do? I hate going back inside their office because they are all rude.
Posted by valerie on 2011-11-14:
Haha told me there was NO cancellation fee, not completely a lie. The company has no such thing as a cancelation fee. You just have to pay up the rest of your "contract" to get out of the contract... Yes that is what they told me.
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Don't Get Scammed!!!
Posted by Mistinm on 11/12/2010
In February 2009, I was laid-off from my interior design job in Las Vegas, NV. I moved back home to Tulsa, and saw an advertisement for All-American Fitness $25/month NO Contract! When I talked to the salesman he informs me that it is $25/month but there is a $75 sign-up fee. I explain to him that I just got laid-off and it would be a bad idea for me to spend $100 for just one month at a gym. Here's when the swindling started. He told me if I signed up for a one year contract at $25.00/month he could waive the $75.00 sign-up fee. I told him, since I lost my job I had no idea if I was going to find another one in Tulsa, or have to move again. He says, "If you have to 'move', come in and tell me and I'll cancel your contract". Then he adds "Actually, my best friend is an interior designer and she needs a lot of help right now. If you bring me your portfolio and resume, I'll give it to her and I'm almost positive you could work as her assistant". The whole time he is saying this he is looking down at my contract doodling on the paper, no eye contact. He eventually starts telling me what a great Christian he is, and how I should go to his church and get a free cappuccino...I did NOT care what religion they guy was, I was only there to get a one month gym membership. So after awhile, he convinced me I could cancel the contract anytime and save $75.00. I signed and initialed the contract, he gave me my gym card and I left....without a copy of my contract.

So for the next few days, I worked on making a new portfolio and resume. A few days later, I take my portfolio and resume to him and he acted like he had never seen me before. After that, I emailed him, called him to see if he gave my stuff to his 'interior design' friend. No response. No reply.

A month later, I checked my bank account and $37.98 had been taken out of my account. So I call ABC Financial (All-American's financial company) to tell them they were taking too much out. Thats when I was informed that my contract was for $37.98 for 2 YEARS!!!

Soon after, I go back to All-American and tell my salesman that I need to cancel my contract (like he said I could). He looks away and says, "You'll have to call ABC financial and cancel with them." Frustrated, I go home and call ABC financial who tells me that I need proof that I am moving far (2 utilities bills with my name on it) and a $100 cancellation fee. So now I'm stuck, and haven't used the gym in months, because of it's poor and dirty conditions.

A year and half later, I noticed $34.00 and $37.98 were taken out of my account from All-American. I call ABC Financial AGAIN and find out that the $34.00 is for yearly maintenance fees!!! So I tell them I want to buy out of my contract and be done with them FOREVER...the lady tells me, "Well, remember to cancel your automatic renewal" Whats that? In my contract it said that my contract automatically renews after 2 years!

Please report them to the BBB, if you also have been scammed.

     
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No Flip Flop Policy
Posted by Oumuscle on 06/16/2006
OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA -- I have been member of All American Fitness for the last 8 years.
Not to mention they scam me into signing the contract; can cancel anytime, but in actual reality, nobody been able to cancel.
I am getting angry that they added the No Flip-Flop policy this summer.
I forgot to bring sneaker yesterday,but this one girl get heisty with me, she was pointing finger, yelling that I have nasty attitiude.
I am a paying customer, and there is no way to treat your customer like that.
I wanted to file a complaint with the manager, but she conveniently no avilable.
     
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Posted by Doc J on 2006-06-16:
My kind of gym...no politicians allowed. I understand their policy for no flip-flops is due to concerns for foot injuries around machines and weights.
Posted by CobraCat77 on 2006-06-16:
I too see complaint. Scam bad to be in gym where want work. 8 years and no cancel? Sound like a fish.
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-06-16:
I think it's a standard fitness center policy aside the locker room. Look at the bright side at least your working out, right!
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-06-16:
I have never been in a gym that allowed you to work out if flip flops. Aside from injury factor Doc mentions there is also the I don't want to share your athlete's foot factor and I don't want to see your nasty feet factor to consider. They shouldn't point finger and be rude but you really need "real shoes" to work out in.
Posted by beanbagbritches on 2006-06-17:
What's wrong with sneakers, Mr. Sneaky?
Posted by Ponie on 2006-06-17:
Exactly how did they 'scam' you into signing a contract? beanbag: LOL!
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Not enough bang for your buck
Posted by Cklawitter1960 on 09/10/2012
TULSA, OKLAHOMA -- ALL AMERICAN FITNESS = 10 GYM nowadays. I haven't been to the newly named facility but I was a VIP member for 2 years. It sucked. Dirty facilities in bad repair except the BA location (sometimes messy but not for long). The rules regarding TV's, music, conduct and apperal only applied to the people the staff didn't approve of as the privileged crowd. If you weren't privileged they were rude, or too busy with their own agenda to tend to yours. I complained loudly enough and long enough to get my membership cancelled without any further obligation. I would never recommend this facility to anyone.
     
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Too hot inside.:(
Posted by AggggH15 on 07/03/2012
The place on NW Expressway always keep their temperature warm inside when it's 110 outside, are you kidding me, someone is going to pass out one day. I have a life time membership, and each year they woud try to save on electric bills by keeping the place warm. Sucks.
     
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Posted by madconsumer on 2012-07-03:
even the very best HNAC units struggled to maintain a decent inside temperature in the extreme heat.
Posted by trmn8r on 2012-07-03:
This place may have poor insulation, which could lead to the HVAC system having trouble keeping up with the load, as the first reply suggests.
Posted by gg123 on 2012-12-19:
Actually has nothing to do with saving electric or insulation. The units are 30 years old and they are TOO CHEAP to replace them. They changed to 10 Gym to put more money in the owner's pocket, not back into the club. There are several gyms for $10/ mo and they all have new equipment. 10 Gyms epuipment is older than I am.
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Do not SIGN!!!!!
Posted by Thedementedbunny on 07/08/2011
I received an ad in the mail for All American Fitness stating $10/mo. I only had 15 minutes to take up that offer when I checked my mail, 10 minutes later I was there. I only had 5 minutes to get the contract signed in order to get the deal. I was not told I couldn't cancel... (EVER). I tried the Better Business Bureau, but as it turns out, All American Fitness would rather have bad reviews from the BBB than let one person out of a contract due to their own mistake. I was told I could cancel, which was the only reason I signed! Especially after they told me my $10/mo was actually $50/mo until I renewed my contract after one year. I just received a letter saying I owe $60/mo for a 2 yr contract! Spread the word! All American Fitness is a SCAM!

     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2011-07-08:
Great review! Very helpful! thanks for the warning.
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Contract Scam
Posted by Jbcarty on 02/15/2011
OKLAHOMA -- They lied. I told them up front that I cannot do a 24 month contract because I knew I would move in 1 year. They assured me that I would not have to pay a cancellation fee in this situation. When I tried to cancel they are requiring me to pay the fee. They say that my contract says nothing about not pay the cancellation fee. I talked to supervisors at the local and corporate level. They are jerks and corrupt. I wouldn't give a penny to them for this type of customer service if I were you.
     
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Posted by unhappy999 on 2011-02-15:
It doesn't matter what any salesman tells you. They all tell you what you want to hear which isn't always the truth. All that matters is what is in the contract. We all need to take the time to read contracts carefully and if a business tries to get you to sign without reading it because they are in a hurry to get your signature then you need to walk away.
Posted by j doe on 2013-06-24:
just write in any terms you wish to add, initial and, sign.
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Great place with friendly management
Posted by Lottiedottie on 12/23/2010
MIDWEST CITY, OKLAHOMA -- My husband and I went in to try the place out and everyone was friendly. I had read some bad reviews but had to check it out for myself, and nothing that was stated in the reviews was true. The restrooms and locker areas were very clean, and all machines except for 1 treadmill was working. There were lots of machines to keep me occupied. When going to leave, we talked to the manager and he gave us excellent rates for being military. So far, I would recommend this place to anyone, and will keep everyone posted about this place, the more I work out.
     
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Posted by Alain on 2010-12-25:
Glad you liked it, but at least 8 other people didn't.
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