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False Advertising
Posted by Starlord on 05/26/2009
I am so tired of this outfits false advertising. It is apparently aimed at newly diagnosed diabetics or older people who are senile and don't know about glucose testing. the ad has an attractive African American lady who talks about not having to code her meter, and she uses alternate sites, so her fingers don't hurt anymore. This is really not unique to this outfit, as they all promote alternate site testing, due to what the actors claim is their fingers hurting so badly. CODING: I am on my second box of test strips since I last coded my meter. Since each box contains four vials of 25 strips each, that comes to almost 200 tests since I coded my meter. These people work real hard to give the impression you must code your meter for each test.

I have never seen any meter that required coding for each test, so that claim is preposterous. ALTERNATE SITES: The companies promote alternate site testing, by having the actresses, usually, crying about the pain from the fingersticks. I hurt myself worse shaving. What they never tell in the ads is that alternate site testing is not as accurate as fingersticks, and in some cases, is not to be used. Modern lancet devices use a very small needle-like lancet and a spring-operated plunger that strikes as fast as a snake. It is very quick and hardly painful. The one ad I saw that showed a fingerstick being performed was being done wrong. They were sticking the finger in the friction pad, where the fingerprints are. This is wrong, as there are numerous nerve endings, that give us our tactile sense.

A fingerstick should be done on the side of the finger, where there are fewer nerve endings. With ten fingers, that gives you twenty possibilities for a place to test. I am tired to death of aged actresses whining about their fingers hurting and having to code their meters. Don't they have laws against false advertising anymore?
     
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Posted by Principissa on 2009-05-26:
Great review Star. My father-in-law is diabetic, he's on an insulin pump, and he tests himself upwards of 6 times daily. He too has mentioned that those "alternate" testing sites are not as reliable as a finger stick, he also mentioned that if you do it correctly, it doesn't hurt at all, it feels like a pin prick. I too know from personal experience (gestational diabetes with my second pregnancy) that the finger stick feels like a small pin prick and was informed by my OB to not test anywhere else as I could be getting inaccurate results.

As far as coding the meter goes, you are again spot on. My father in law only does his when he is finished with a box of strips, I did the same. You DO NOT HAVE TO CODE AFTER EVERY TEST. If you read the manual that comes with the meter it will tell you exactly when and how to code your meter. Coding your meter too much may also affect the meter itself and cause it to fail or give you inaccurate readings.

I realize these commercials are meant for informative purposes but they are giving out the wrong and in some cases potentially false information, especially with the coding of the meters.
Posted by Soaring Consumer on 2009-05-26:
I wonder what the Food and Drug Administration and the Federal Trade Commission would have to say about this. Go ahead and give them a call.

Voted helpful.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-05-26:
Nice review, Starlord!
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-26:
Americans are such whiners and wimps. The advertising industry caters to them. I test my blood six times a day and take five shots per day. My meter is a Breeze 2 that uses discs and never has to be "coded". I use a control substance once a month to check it. No problems!
Posted by madconsumer on 2009-05-26:
"I wonder what the Food and Drug Administration and the Federal Trade Commission would have to say about this. Go ahead and give them a call."

under what pretense?
Posted by PepperElf on 2009-05-26:
You know, I was wondering about that... if it was as accurate in other areas.

It made me think of donating blood, because back in the early 90s some donation centers took the pin-prick blood samples from less sensitive ear lobes... but then they were all forced to switch to using finger tips because other areas weren't as accurate when it came to iron content.


so... yeah i guess it's not surprising that the finger tips are also more accurate for blood sugar testing too
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2009-05-26:
I agree with you 100%, Starlord. I think what makes me the maddest about the diabetic testing supply industry is they manufacture the test strips for less then a penny but sell them to us at anywhere from 85 cents to a dollar per strip. Makes me think they are owned by Bank of America. Greedy ba$tards!

They will GIVE you the meter FREE and stick it to you (no pun intended) BIG TIME with the strips!
Posted by Nohandle on 2009-05-26:
Very informative review Starlord. My mother was diagnosed as diabetic years ago. Before her death her diet was all that was required, thank heavens. Those actresses you speak of whining and crying should try testing with what amounted to a razor blade back then. Then they would have something to whine about. A needle prick in order to survive and their fingers hurt? Thanks for the warning for those diabetics who are tempted to try one of those so called alternate sites.
Posted by Starlord on 2009-05-26:
Thank you all for your responses.My mother was a Type 1 diabetic when I waas a kid, she had one of the first home meters. the thing was the size of a toaster oven and had to be stripped down and cleaned after each reading, and the lancet were like razorblades and really left a nasty wound. It also did not store test info, you had a notebook for that. My meter is little larger than a pen and stores 100 tests, and can be hooked to my computer to print out graphs of my readings. I pray that someday they find a cure for diabetes, and that you all remain healthy and happy.
Posted by Principissa on 2009-05-26:
The sad truth is that both me, hubby, and the kids, are all most likely going to get this disease. My grandfather had it, my mom has it, and so does my father-in-law. We'll be lucky if both of our kids don't get it. All I can do is get them eating healthy now and hope to heck it sticks with them the rest of their lives so they don't have to do this.
Posted by old fart on 2009-05-26:
Mrs OF is type one diabetic .. she keeps everything kosher by diet and Glucovance..
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-26:
Great review and info Starlord. I agree with Chucks comments 110%. What's it really cost to make a strip? Five cents maybe? SloMo, I don't think I would remember to test that often and probably mess something up. Knock on wood Diabetes does not run in our family.
Posted by Cletus666 on 2009-07-01:
Stick to medieval cooking.
Posted by BokiBean on 2009-07-01:
This review is two months old...I think someone has a new fan. I guess you're not anybody on m3c until you get your own personal follower. :)
Posted by jennbeez on 2009-08-10:
THank you! We just recently got digitized TV so we are new to Retro TV where this commercial shows a lot. I've been tempted to show this to my dad who is a diabetic who doesn't like to test everyday due to the sticks. This commercial definitely implies that your days of sticking yourself are over if you use this kit. I see they are just lying so thanks for posting the truth. What a scam.
Posted by Lifemates on 2010-10-24:
Leave it to them to exaggerate the pain, maybe they think they can make some sales out of it.
Posted by Starlord on 2011-05-01:
The latest ads have a guy with a soul patch, asking his (apparent) wife if she can read his meter number. Thos numbers on meters range from 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch. He is wearing a wristwatch that the numbers can't be more than 1-8 inch. The so-called doctor (no MD after his name) looks like he has been sampling the pharmacueticals. Gets worse and worse constantly
Posted by Marlene on 2013-07-12:
What's going on here? Seems like medicare has hooked up with every bad co in the book. I enrolled with another co and got about the same results that people say is happening with this one. Medicare gave me their name and this name. I 'm on a limited income and can't afford to pay for my supplies. Thanks to Am Med's failure to send me any supplies I am completely out and don't know where to turn. Maybe these companies are ripping medicare off but so what? Medicare is the one promoting them. Any body got advice on how to find a good company?
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Rip off Medicare
Posted by Daughter on 03/13/2010
This company has been shipping my elderly mother products she does use for months. They have charged Medicare up to $600 some months.
She doesn't even know why she is receiving these items.
What a rip off of the medicare program.
     
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Posted by warddw1526 on 2010-03-13:
"This company has been shipping my elderly mother products she does use for months." Not sure why this is a ripoff of Medicare if she is using the products?
Posted by Anonymous on 2010-03-13:
If she is not using the products, then how did they get her name and address, and how did they know to bill medicare?
Posted by Nohandle on 2010-03-13:
I believe the mother had signed up for this program but was being shipped far more products than she needed, Medicare was being billed and the OP felt it was a rip off of Medicare by that company.
Posted by raven2010 on 2010-03-13:
(BA) nohandle.
Posted by Starlord on 2010-03-13:
I understand this post completely, in one respect. The mother has to have a prescription, if drugs and insulin are involved, and reputable firms, such as Liberty Medical require a prescription from a doctor for diabetic supplies, which can usually be purchased with no prescription. This is the outfit I posted a complaint on due to false claims. There is no way diabetic supplies should cost anywhere near that much. Thank you, Daughter, for bringing this to our attention. Maybe someone will read this who can do something.
Posted by Tracy on 2012-07-11:
My mother has been getting manipulated by Diabetes Care Club. She gets her supplies from Liberty Medical. DCC first sent her a card in the mail that made it look like she already had an account with them. I called Liberty. They have nothing to do with this company so I threw the card away. Now they are sending her full blown statements with charges for supplies she never ordered or received. They do this to confuse seniors and trick them into signing up because the senior may get confused and think it is the company they already do business with, will call and talk to DCC as if there exists an account in which case, DCC can then hijack the senior and claim that they were given permission to start an account. My mother has been confused by this company several times already but, luckily, I manage this stuff for her and caught it. I checked her Medicare statement and there are no charges from DCC on it even though the statement specifically makes it look like they are charging her Medicare. I want them to stop sending her their crap. She will be calling Medicare tomorrow to report them for fraud.
Posted by Suzy on 2013-08-06:
Unfortunately, there was a change in medicare, As of July 1st, 2013 there are only 18 suppliers of diabetic testing supplies. Unfortunately, Liberty Medical is in bankruptcy and not approved supplier.
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Giving the wrong impression
Posted by Kidmonte on 10/24/2010
I am upset that this company is claiming to have a product that is outstanding and unique, when this product and many like it, have been around for years. I have been diabetic for 45 years and had my share of meters. Alternate sites, if they looked it up, are not as accurate as finger pricks also. I have been a medical lab technologist all of my adult life and we always use fingersticks for blood sugars if not obtaining a venous sample. My fiance was watching the TV and saw the ad for the club. He told me there is a meter out that you don't need to code or stick yourself. Evidently, that is what the company is trying to portray so people will order it. I had to break his heart and tell him that I still have to do my fingersticks as their advertising is giving the wrong impression. Diabetics are always on the lookout for a new or more modern method of doing things to make life easier.

It is stressful enough being on insulin and testing ten times a day in some cases, that false advertising can aggravate us more. Maybe they should call me on how to advertise for their glucose meters as I won't lead anyone down the wrong path.
     
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Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-10-24:
I think this is the same company. I find it annoying they are pushing this meter that speaks the reading to "confirm accuracy". Whether the meter speaks or not has NOTHING to do with accuracy.

I do not give one rat's butt about the "free" meter. You want to impress me? Tell me you have test strips for a reasonable cost. That is where they gouge us so badly.

I think it is sickening that they charge 87 cents for a item that they produce 2 for a penny. (That is only a guess.)

Posted by fast327 on 2010-10-24:
Tnchuck, I agree wholeheartedly! Test strips are way over priced, yet the companies pushing the free meters act as if they are doing us a great favor.
One thing I have learned in all these years, the attractive packing never says anything about the hook that is embedded. Ask a fish!
Posted by jktshff1 on 2010-10-24:
Not demeaning any statements. Medicinal development is very expensive, can take many years, with no assurances that the product will be approved for use. The arthritis medicine I take probably costs less than a penny a piece to produce and I pay many times that, but the companies have to recoup their investment, and make a profit to stay in business.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-10-24:
jkt, test strips are nothing new. The development cost for these was recovered decades ago. In case of these test strips it is pure, unadulterated GREED. They get away with it because insurance usually pays for it and the general public just rolls over and takes it right up the yazoo!!

But, as is typical with the entire medical industry, they get fat on the backs of the most unfortunate. Our deductibles and co-pays are paying the TRUE medical bill. The rest is all gravy for the pigs at the top.

When I must pay $13,500/year for 80%/$300 deductible health insurance it is ridiculous!
Posted by jktshff1 on 2010-10-24:
tnchuck, I agree with you. Not trying to politize the post. Problem is, socializing medicine is going to cost us all more ie NoBama Care. I do not know what the answer is. Living in the US, being a profit driven society, it's all about the $$$$, I am going to mark up my product in order to keep making a living.
Are we as a whole willing to give up some of our "freedom" to save a few bucks? Not me.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-10-24:
jkt, I agree with you about the NoBama Care. I have no problem with anyone "making a living". It's the ones that are out there trying to "make a killing" off of me that I adamantly object to.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2010-10-24:
Well put, but what is a killing? After tax and expenditures what percentages would be acceptable. Profits are used to pay the stockholders and for further development on any product and keep the company solvent. That costs $$$. Like I said, I don't know the answer.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-10-24:
"A killing" according to Chuck is any amount that doubles your standard of living while at the same time reduces my standard of living by half. Or anything that resembles that effect.

Expensive research in some areas I feel are a waste of resources because in the end only the most wealthy among us could afford the resulting treatment.

Cancer will never be cured because there is far too much money being made in treating it.

(OK, I will now step down from my soap box. Thanks for listening.)
Posted by Ben There on 2010-10-24:
Drug companies spend up to twice as much on marketing as they do research these days. So every one dollar spent on cancer, two are spent on producing ads of incontinent robots in jazz clubs.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2010-10-24:
We are on the same soap box.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-10-24:
On the other side of the coin you have a group of scum-bag lawyers crawling out of the woodwork attempting to sue every drug manufacturer for every drug they ever produced. That sure doesn't help our costs.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2010-10-24:
we are on some deep doodoo......too much, gotta fix another drink.
Posted by tnchuck100 on 2010-10-24:
jkt, while your at it get me a beer.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2010-10-24:
got ya covered.
Posted by Starlord on 2010-10-25:
What about the dishonest insurance companies? If I buy my insulin over the counter at WalMart, I pay $24.88 per vial. If I run it through my insurance, my 'co-pay' is $29.00 per vial. What's up with that> Last year, I was put in the 'donut hole,' because of the cost of my insulin through insurance. So far, it looks like I am dodging the bullet this year. I posted a warning about this so-called 'care club' some time ago. Good, valid review.
Posted by SD on 2013-03-04:
I run a company that developes medical products. And sorry to say the costs have not been recouped years ago. Fact is that every testing product on the market today is new in the past 6 years. Many in the past 2 years. Thus, innovation, better standards etc. cause them to be redone and thus adding cost.

While advertsing is a big cost, they have no choice. YOU are the reason they have no choice. You only buy and only ask your doctor for what you see. Thus, how else to get your business. Without your business the drug would sell less, thus raising the cost or they would not sell enough and then go out of business.

The FACT - most products lose money the first few years. Then they have a few more years to MAKE MONEY. This is money to make up for what they lost and cover new R and D and then put profit in their pocket.

STOP MAKING PROFIT A BAD THING......

IT IS WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND.


FACT - If they made no profits, there would be no taxes. If there were no taxes there is no SS or Medicare or Medicaid.

Think about that........And then decide you don't want them making money.

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Harassing Diabetes Care Club
Posted by I care on 01/11/2011
FRANKLIN, TENNESSEE -- This company is horrible!!! They have called me over 8 times some days, over a 3 month period, and will not stop calling. They would only give me more information if I was over 55, they obviously want to prey on the elderly. They try to get as much info about you as possible then they want to know if you are covered by Medicare, if not they don't want to talk to you!! Sound fishy maybe because it is, read the blogs and they are into sending unasked for items and billing Medicare!! Beware do not do business with them! I haved filed a complaint with the attorney generals office in my state and I suggest you do as well, maybe we can gte this company shut down!!!! there direct number is 615-226-2221 and their ceo is douglas hudson. maybe we should call them 8 times a day over 3 months!!!!!
     
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Posted by jktshff1 on 2011-01-11:
When they call, be as rude and as vulgar as possible using as many vulgar terms as your religion would allow.....they will stop....unless you owe them money. On the other hand, keep them on the phone, ask questions, take up their time, THEN use the expletives and hang up. Just have fun with it.
Posted by Disaster Worker on 2011-01-12:
55 is not considered elderly!!! You have to be at least 62 to begin the standard process for Medicare. My guess is that they are a marketing firm representing a client, getting paid for each client they sign up with Medicare or Medicade.
Posted by Eric on 2013-05-28:
They call multiple times no idea how they got my cell number. the phone number will say it's non working if you call back and the office number listed for the state they are calling from is bogus. I sell on craig's list and people fish for phone numbers then give them to companies like this as qualified leads and get paid for them.
Posted by Linda on 2013-07-28:
Use call block
Posted by MimiBobek on 2013-08-14:
These folks are rude and will not let you talk. They try to lock you in on everything you say. I got fed up and told them nevermind and hung up.
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