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Protection One Punishes Loyal Customers
Posted by JONK on 01/12/2009
In 1995, my wife and I bought a home in San California which came equipped with a burglar alarm system. We opened an account with Alert Alarm Company for a 3 year contract. We continued the service long after the 3 year term expired with this company, which became Protection Service Industries, then Integrated Alarm Systems Group, both part of Protection One.

In 2004, we moved to Washington State and rented out our CA home. We continued to pay for the alarm service for our tenants. We paid all of our bi-monthly bills promptly via online billing regularly through August 2007.

In September 2007, our tenants told us they didn’t need the alarm service. My wife called Protection One and spoke with a female account representative, settled the remaining balance and cancelled service over the phone. At no point during this conversation did the account representative tell my wife that they could not cancel our service without written notification from us, or that we should consult our original contract, or that anything more was required on our part to cancel service.

In Dec. 2008, I received an alert from a credit report monitoring service that a collection agency called Asset Resources, Inc. had reported an unpaid balance of $400 to Equifax. Having never received any letters or phone calls prior to this alert, I immediately called Asset Resources to inquire about the matter. I was told it was regarding my account with Protection One.

I called Protection One, whose representative told me they sent several notices to our Washington address in 2008 and had made several phone calls to our former California phone number (which had been discontinued since 2004). I explained to her that we never received any such notice by mail or phone, and would not expect anything from them as we had paid our bills online. Anything they may have sent would likely not have been recognized or been considered junk mail and unopened as the company name and logo has changed so many times. They also said there was no record of us ever cancelling our account and the contract requires written notice of cancellation, and would otherwise continually automatically renew for a full year term – forever, presumably.

I explained the situation to the collection agency, Asset Resources, and was treated with belligerence by a manager who insisted he will continue to report this account to the credit bureaus as unpaid unless we pay him $400 immediately. He also claimed to have called (the same discontinued phone number) and sent us notices via mail, which we have never received. I explained I have every intention of disputing the matter. He said he would begin the dispute process. A month has passed and we still have received nothing from them.

I asked Protection One for and received a copy of our original 1995 contract with Alert Alarm Company, which I will send to our attorney for review. I have discovered there are scores of customers who have had similar complaints against Protection One.

I am appalled that Protection One would treat its loyal customers this way: They accepted our cancellation of service by phone, then waited a year to demand compensation for a service they did not provide and used a 13 year-old contract with a company that no longer exists to use as justification.

Shame on Protection One. Stay away from them.
     
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Who is suposed to protect us from them?
Posted by Cjhopper on 02/16/2011
All was fine in regards to service. The problem I had was with the billing dept. I completed my contract and canceled. Two months later they sent me a bill for the following year saying my contract auto renewed, yet I canceled on the last day of my contract. I called and the very nice attendant explained that there is nothing they could do, except take my money of course. I'm sure they have enough fine print to justify their actions, they always seem to have the legal edge. But they are crooks just the same.
     
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Posted by azRider on 2011-02-17:
did you cave in and pay? I would not send them a dime if you cancelled. don't let them bully you into a new contract. if you cancelled tell them your done. don't give them a card, do not pay. its that simple. stick to your guns and say 'look this contract is over, I'm cancelling it'. send them a letter also. when they come knocking just repeat the story that you cancelled them. if they say they are going to go to court let them. tell the judge you want to cancel and they won't let you. in most states they have to give you the right to cancel by law.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2011-02-17:
If the cancellation was done verbally, then the op would have not proof of cancellation. You always need to send a letter (preferably registered, return receipt requested) to have your proof. Pain in the rear, yes, but it covers it.
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THE WORST COMPANY EVER
Posted by Don-H on 12/10/2010
This has to be THE WORST COMPANY EVER. The Tech Staff who came into our company, 10 alarm panels, were the most unprofessional individuals I have ever met. Hats on sideways, 2 of them were hung over, foul language in front of my employees, you name it. Are we are suppose it “trust” this company for our security needs? So far, the service as a whole, installation to dispatching is a complete failure. We are addressing legal matters as well as exchanging services at this time. They may be sufficient for residential but not for commercial applications.
     
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Very Shady
Posted by Cmparker4 on 08/30/2010
I signed up for Protection one over 10 months ago. When I talked to the salesperson on the phone, I clearly stated that I would only be in the home for 10 more months. I relocate for my job pretty frequently. However, I was broken into and didn't feel safe not having an alarm system. He told me not a problem.

So, installation person arrives, sets everything up. He was 2 hours late so he didn't arrive to my home until almost 6. He ran into issues when installing the system and wasn't finished until 9. He proceeded to tell me he had been up since 6 and really wanted to get home. He then brought out the 5-6 page contract in 7 point type for me to sign. In all honesty, I didn't read the contract in its entirety. He was telling me had to to get home, he hadn't eaten since noon, and I just was tired myself so I signed it without reading everything through.

I didn't realize until a month ago when I tried to cancel that the contract on paper was completely different than what the salesperson sold me on the phone. I called the customer service and asked them to pull up the recorded conversation. Conveniently, the every call is recorded option didn't work in my case. The phone call was not recorded. If it had been, they would have found that the salesperson very blatantly lied to me.

I cannot renew the contract in my new place because I am not allowed to install a security system per HOA rules. Most contracts offer you an out if you are unable to fulfil the requirements of the contract. Now I have to keep paying the monthly charge for something I can't use or pay $750 to cancel. Even cell phone contracts are only $250, plus they prorate the $250 over the 2 months!!!!
     
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Posted by Skye on 2010-08-30:
I'm not sure why you are calling them shady just because you did not read the contract. You should of said you would not sign it, until you were able to read the contract in it's entirety.
Posted by goduke on 2010-08-30:
You're HOA won't let you put security in your home? Are they going to pay for everything if you get broken into?
Posted by Lifemates on 2010-08-30:
Typical slimy sales person. They sweet talk you and then you are stuck with a completely different agreement. I think this is a very valid complaint.
Posted by Venice09 on 2010-08-30:
I completely understand not wanting to read the contract in its entirety at that hour, but it wouldn't have taken long to just check the cancellation terms, since that was the one thing most likely to become an issue due to your circumstances.

It's suspicious that your call was not recorded, and it does make it look like the salesperson misrepresented the contract, but you did sign it and have no way to prove you were lied to. Under the circumstances, it would be nice if they reduced the cancellation fee.

Your review is helpful in that it reminds people to always read before signing.

Posted by cmparker4 on 2010-09-02:
Skye, they are shady in that 1. The salesperson on the phone misrepresented what I could actually signed up for. 2. The installation person installed everything and then handed me the contract after 4.5 hours. It was 9 pm at night. I had been up since 4 a.m. I was told the installation would take an hour! 3. I did call after the installation because they actually charged me more for the installation than what the original guy had told me.
4. When I called, they told me every call is recorded when you sign up for service. My call wasn't recorded. If they had been able to pull up a recorded call, they would have heard the salesperson misrepresenting their contract terms.

So, if I had known in advance that I was paying for a 3 year contract and if I cancelled I would have to pay $750, I would never had them come over and spend 4.5 hours installing.I wold have just bought a gun for $500.

I admittedly said I didn't read the contract in its entirety but I feel that due to the circumstances, Protection One should be willing to work with me. I'm not trying to get out of it. I am trying to work them to come to a fair and reasonable agreement.
Posted by Sj on 2013-06-27:
I think they are out to scam you. I had them up grad my service to the cell and I paid for the equipment and install that was no big deal then after all was said and done they made me sign another 2 year contract cause the cell service was not in my original 2 year and I only had a year left on it. And if I didn't I would have to pay the 750 cancellation fee on the original contract. Now the new contract is up I called to cancel and the rep was rude trying to con me again I finally had the rep transfer me to a supervisor and I told her why I was canceling and I didn't have the time or energy to hear all the options to stay just like I told the rep before. They had me pay the final bill and email my name and address and why I wanted to cancel. I will never use them again and I will tell all friends and family in person or over Facebook to stay clear of protection one. Plus the equipment is so out dated.
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Beware of Contract
Posted by CameronEllison on 04/07/2010
WICHITA, KS, KANSAS -- I notified Protection One of an installation problem during the first 90 days while the system was under warranty. Due to scheduling difficulties, I was not able to schedule a service tech to look at the problem for two months. I was later charged a service call charge even though the problem was clearly an installation issue and was reported within the warranty period.

When I explained to the CSR supervisor that it would not be beneficial for either parter for me to cancel, she transferred me to the cancellation department anyway. After this first three year contract I will probably not renew the service. Hmmm, their loss...
     
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Posted by Susan @ Protection One on 2010-04-08:
My name is Susan, and I am with Protection One’s Executive Customer Relations team, where our focus is on resolving unique issues that sometimes occur.

At Protection One, we do strive to provide an excellent level of customer service, and I regret learning of the experience you describe here. I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to review your account more closely with you. Could you please contact us anytime between 8:00am and 5:00pm CST Monday through Friday at (877) 835-3338 or at CustomerRelations@ProtectionOne.com? Please be sure to provide your name, contact information or account number. You also may reach us at CustomerService@ProtectionOne.com seven days a week.

Thank you for your time. I sincerely hope to hear from you.

Susan
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Theft by the Security Company
Posted by Coffeebean on 05/26/2009
SEATTLE, WASHINGTON -- Homeowners Beware! DO NOT use Protection One.

Let's just start with the fact that it took them over a month to completely install our alarm. The technicians were unprepared when they came, had to order parts multiple times and replace faulty parts. It was a mess. Annoying, but they fixed it.

The real problem ONE OF THEIR TECHNICIANS STOLE OUR PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION!!! This happened six months ago and I finally got a call back from their regional manager today who assured me that they did an internal investigation and their technicians were blameless. Really? Our Oxycodone and hydrocodone walked off by themselves from the master closet where the technicians were working that nobody else had access too? I asked the manager what steps were taken in their internal investigation and was told that he could not provide that information. Lovely.

I would never ever ever recommend them to any homeowner. Stay far, far away from them.
     
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Posted by Soaring Consumer on 2009-05-26:
Did you file a police report when you realized that they stole your medication?

The investigation they claim to have did likely never existed, and they are just giving you a bogus cop-out.
Posted by madconsumer on 2009-05-26:
Soaring Consumer are you paranoid????

not everything requires to sue, make a complaint to the fda, epa or police.

first thing in an investigaztion, is, who else lives in the home and ages? any babysitter? housekeeper? who's name was the prescription written? how many pills are missing?

far to many details missing to call suspect to court.
Posted by Nohandle on 2009-05-26:
Thankfully I take few medications so don't know if the drugs missing were classified as controlled drugs or not. If controlled, yes it should be reported to the police if for no other reason than to be eligible for untimely refills. Since Coffeebean you have no proof as to who stole your medication there's no recourse for you other than to not leave any unknown individual free access to roam in your home.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-05-26:
If the install guys are stealing peoples Oxycodone and hydrocodone I can see why the installs are getting so screwed up. Oxycodone is a very powerful drug and addicting. Protection One needs to protect their customers from the Protection One employee's.
Posted by DigitalCommando on 2009-05-27:
Do you hang your clothes in the medicine cabinet?
Posted by PepperElf on 2009-05-27:
i would wonder just how they'd do an "internal investigation"
and yes a police report should have been filed immediately, especially if they were prescriptions with known addictive properties.

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Poor Installation, False Credit Reporting
Posted by Eee on 04/21/2008
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS -- Protection One we were burglarized within a month our system was installed. The system improperly; the window sensors were installed so that the alarm did not go off when the top of the double hung window was opened. Our insurance adjuster wondered about that coincidence....

We canceled in accordance to the contract; written notice within the time period specified and Protection One stopped taking automatic payments. About a year later we were contacted by a collection company for not paying our bill. About a year after that we found a false report on our credit report about this that lowered our credit rating. Beware, do not do business with this company.
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2008-04-21:
Thank you for your informative post. I hope you contested the errors on your bureaus and contested the company's claims on the grounds that you cancelled according to the terms of the contract.
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Alarm Monitoring-Protection One Deceptive!!!!!!
Posted by SkCareer2 on 01/23/2007
BEWARE OF THIS COMPANY

Protection ONE
PO Box 492392
Wichita, KS 67201
www.protectionone.com

In 2002 I entered into a contract at XXX Street SE Palm Bay Florida for monitoring service. I was told by the salesman in front of witnesses in that my contract was transferable if I moved and at the completion of the timeframe there was no further obligation. I was paying upfront for the equipment and I would pay so much a month for monitoring. I moved in 2004 to YYYY Street in Palm Bay Florida and transferred the service, no problem, I again paid for new equipment, I got a move credit, the salesperson told me that I was on the original contract and that the timeframe expired, however he had me sign a new contract "because this is how we transfer". I relocated to ZZZZZ Street Fort Wayne, Indiana in 2005, the services were again transferred, I got a move credit, paid for new equipment and again I was told that I was "out of contract" but I had to execute paperwork "because this is how we transfer". In August 2006 I called and cancelled the service because we were again moving, I was told over the phone, "Not a problem" and call us when you get a new house and we will give you a move credit towards your new service". I was sent a letter in October telling me that I had to write in to cancel, a phone call was not sufficient. I continued to be billed thruout this timeframe. I wrote a letter in October to the company again cancelling the service and explaining the situation. I received a letter back advising that I may be billed thru the end of the agreement (although my original agreement had long since been met) and/or be required to pay an early cancellation fee. My bill was over $750.00. I wrote Richard Ginsburg, President and CEO at Corporate Headquaters complaining and explaining that all of the employees told me the same things and that this was deceptive business practice. I received a call from some person named Nancy Roe, she was rude, advised that I had to pay, that I had signed a contract, that I couldn't pay it over time and that I would be billed the full amount of the contract, which I was.
This company is totally deceptive, they are charging for a service that they are not delivering, their own representatives all advised that I was "out of contract" after Alameda yet the company has escalated the billing and is chasing me to pay for something that they are not providing. How can all the employees of the company from Florida to Indiana to Corporate HQ all tell me the same wrong information, unless this is how they train their employees?
     
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Posted by tnchuck100 on 2007-01-24:
Can they produce a contract that you signed for the time period in question? If the only one you signed is the original one from 2002 and it has expired then they are just trying to bully you into paying.
Communicate with them only in writing. Make them prove you are under contract. Watch your credit reports. Dispute anything related to this in writing. Do not give in.
Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-01-24:
Chuck's advice is sound, but check the contract they had you sign in 2005 - whatever it says is what you are going to have to live with, regardless of what a salesman told you. However it seems like you have been a loyal customer thru many moves, it would be in their best interest to keep you happy.
Posted by ducati900ss on 2007-03-22:
Protection One has been sued in a few states for contracts. Check out there stock symbol and then look up there previous history. They are into threatning people to pay them but in court there contracts usually do not hold water and if you beat there contract in court there company is worthless because there worth is based on the contract. This means they do not want to take anyone to court because there bark is everything.
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