ROCHESTER HILLS, MICHIGAN -- I brought a wheel and tire in that needed patching today. While they weren't able to patch due to the nature of the damage to the tire - which is understandable - they did succeed in damaging the face of the wheel considerably, leaving 50-60 scratches on surface. When I asked about it it was denied vehemently by everyone - even those who had not looked at the wheel. Knowing that I was taking a risk by bringing it in, I have photographs of the befores, all of the other wheels and the general state of the Jaguar itself. I was told multiple times that there was no way they could have damaged it, that they do tires all the time.
I have been building cars for 25 years and know what I am talking about, yet they had no issue letting me know that it must have come in that way. On a show car that has drive less than 2,000 miles on these wheels. The wheel is discontinued and I am faced with refurbishing all 4 so they match. They offered, while still accepting no blame, to see what they could do to 'clean' it. At first I accepted, however I went back a couple hours later to retrieve the wheel as I couldn't risk further damage by them.
This is hands down the worst experience with any business I have ever had. I am thoroughly disgusted. I knew better than to take it to a chain shop, but out of convenience I had a lapse in judgment so I know I am partially to blame here. There was no empathy, responsibility or willingness to offer any solution other than "We will try to clean it for you."
This is going to potentially cost me a thousand dollars to make right, for one little stop. They were also unable to order me a new tire from their suppliers, however I am so I did and when it gets here I will NOT be going to Belle Tire to put it on, or to dismount the other 3 which now need to be refurbished to match.
SOUTHGATE, MICHIGAN -- I ordered wheels for my trailer and it took the store in Southgate 8 days just to get in. Then they are telling me I have to pay additional 15$ each wheel shipping because they were located at different stores. This isn't my fault. Then I went to get them put on last Thursday - Jan. 12th and they wouldn't install because it was raining out. I told them I can put the EMPTY trailer in a stall inside and they said no because the trailer would be facing the wrong way? Does it matter which way it's facing when they put tires and wheels on? They asked me to come back a different day (when not raining) so they can do it outside. Now I'm done with this store.
So I went to a different store, near my house and asked if they can get them moved to this store, they said they can have the next day. Stores are only 6-7 miles apart. So 4 days later they are still not there, they are telling me MAYBE tomorrow. REALLY?
SHELBY TOWNSHIP, MICHIGAN -- My tires were wearing strangely with the edges getting lumpy. Went to Belle Tire where I had purchased. Manager took me out to my car up on the hoist and told me I need to replace all suspension components ~ $700. He specifically said "just because the struts are not leaking does not mean that they do not need replacing" and that he could tell that they were bad by the wear on the tires. I said "thanks it may be under warranty" and left. When I went to a Tire store in Lapeer the mechanic said my front end was out of alignment causing the uneven wear on the tires. So he did the alignment for $45.
LAPEER, MICHIGAN -- I had bought four new Michelin tires, over ($1,200). Had to return to have them rebalanced. I returned after approximately 5,000 miles for free tire rotation and balance since I was taking a trip, and unfortunately told the salesman that. Salesman called and said that due to the very poor lug nut design I had a bad lug nut. These lug nuts will knawel if you are careless or are trying to do a NASCAR tire change as I had formerly damaged one myself. He said that I had to buy 5 lug nuts to complete the job. I told him when I had the tires installed, they replaced one lug for $9.18 and that I only would pay for one as they were all ok prior to today.
He agreed to this but then stated he knew I was going on a long trip as I had mentioned, and that I only had 2% wear left on the rear brake pads, offered a $350 rear brake job pushing lifetime guaranteed pads, and said it would not be safe to take a trip with the rear brakes in their condition. I declined, picked up the truck and paid for the $9 lug nut their mechanic damaged.
The next day I had my longtime and trusted mechanic check all four brakes and related what I was told about the rear brakes. He reported that I had about 10,000 miles wear left on the rear brakes, and to take my trip, and not to worry about it. He said bring the truck back after 10,000 miles and he would recheck them.
I also noted a thank you email from Belle Tire and offered me a survey of my visit with them, which I took. I noted / complained about paying for a lug nut they damaged, and for their fraudulent attempt to sell me a brake job that I didn't need as well as having to waste my time having my trusted mechanic recheck. I also noted I no longer trusted them and felt that I should had been treated better after spending over $2,200 with their store over the past approx. 1 1/2 years. Had also to take the wife's car back to them with a rim leak, and that it was frustrating having to go back for rebalance and tire leak after their original services.
The manager of the Lapeer store emailed me the next day. His email was worded in a courteous manner, however he indicated that his mechanic would not have been wrong about the 2% wear left on the now inner brake pad, and suggested my mechanic was just trying to save me money. He said it would be dangerous to take a trip. He also reflected on his assistant manager (who waited on me) stating that Chrysler cares more about the looks of my lug nut than their durability and suggested that I should replace all 20, at a reduced price (always trying to sell you something).
2 days later my buddy called. I had originally told him that I loved the tires and was so glad to have had them put on the truck. He bought the same tires from Belle Tire and he had to return to them for a rim leak on his GMC Truck. I took him to breakfast while waiting for his rim leak to be repaired. The same assistant manager called him at the restaurant and tried to sell him new shocks because his truck had just over 50,000 mile on it??? And that they were offering a 20%discount... He declined, of course. Belle Tire, can you just do the job right the first time and do the free promised rotation and balance without trying to sell me parts and services I don't need?
CANTON, MICHIGAN -- I am writing in regards to a recent experience with Belle Tire. Let me say I have been a faithful and loyal customer to Belle Tire for years now. On Thursday November 8th, I went to the Belle Tire in Garden City at 33535 Ford Road, Garden City, MI 48135 to have my tires balanced and rotated. The Garden City Belle Tire did the rotation and balanced the tires and informed me I needed an outer tire rod as well as a lower control arm and recommended shocks and struts. I declined the work and left. When I left I noticed the car was very wobbly so I decided to get a second opinion, and was told the only thing needed was a control arm.
I let the other dealer replace the control arm. I took it back to the Garden City after the repairs to find out why it was wobbly. They checked it and said they balanced the tires and if it doesn't stop, I probably have a bent rim. Sure enough it was still wobbling. On Saturday November 10th I took my vehicle to the Belle Tire in Canton at 45875 Ford Rd Canton, MI 48187 to have them reevaluate the wobbling. I was helped by salesperson **, he told me it was probably just a balance issue but the mechanic couldn't find the wheel lock. I told him it was in the car, probably in the passenger seat.
After a few minutes he came back and said the mechanic ** still couldn't find it. I asked if I could go look, I walked in the garage and looked in my passenger seat but it wasn't there. As I started to open my back door I saw the wheel lock clearly sitting on the back seat. If the mechanic wasn't so busy eating he may have saw it the first time. After a while, ** came back to the waiting room and said that all my tires were off balance and they didn't notice a bent rim and that the other Belle Tire in Garden City stripped one of my studs and they were going to replace it and charge the other Belle Tire, I said OK.
A little while longer passes and ** comes back out and sits down and asks who did my brakes, by this time it's 4:35 and they close at 5:00. I said, "Why, what's wrong with my brakes?", he says,"Whoever did your brakes stripped the bolt and the caliper bracket by using an impact gun." He also said that whoever did the brakes just stuck an aftermarket bolt back in and that it was very loose. I told him that I never had a problem with my brakes and that they were done in the earlier part of this year so there would have been an issue with that loose bolt by now.
He just shrugged and said I can't give you a price right now and their parts person said the whole caliper would need to be replaced. At this time the mechanic ** comes out and sits and stresses to me that its really really unsafe and he suggest I not drive it but he knows I got to get home so be very very very careful. I told them that the mechanic who did my brakes would never do anything that could jeopardize my safety as well as others out on the road. I left very upset, my brakes were done June 12th, 2012, I have driven all over from that time until now with no issues what so ever.
I took my vehicle to a GM Dealership for an oil change and a multi point inspection on November 1st, 2012 and they did not mention anything about a bolt being loose. The Belle Tire in Garden City said nothing about a loose bolt nor did the mechanic who repaired the control arm. I took it to the mechanic who did the brakes back in June and when he looked at it he said, "Look at this bolt (that I watched him pull out by hand), if I had placed this bolt in here back in June it would have been rusted." He showed me a shiny new bolt that clearly Belle Tire had placed in my caliper bracket.
So after spending my entire Sunday searching for a bracket and bolt I was out of a hundred dollars, to repair what Belle Tire did. I went back to the Canton Belle Tire Monday November 12th, 2012 and asked to speak with the manager. I spoke with ** and told him the situation and he states that the person who did my brakes stripped the caliper bracket and used an aftermarket bolt. I pulled the bolt out of my pocket and said my brakes were done earlier this year and if this was the bolt placed in the caliper bracket it would show some signs or rust (which it had none). He snatches the bolt and the repair paper and says who worked on this car and storms off to the back.
He came back and said I believe my mechanic. I snatched the bolt repair order and stormed out. I, as well as my family, have been faithful customers of Belle Tire for YEARS. Sadly to say I will no longer patronize this establishment. It was very unprofessional to send me out with such a huge safety issue. What happen to honesty and integrity? I will be heard!
GARDEN CITY, MICHIGAN -- I went to Belle tire to get 4 new tires for an 01 Taurus I just recently acquired. AFTER the new tires were installed they tole me they couldn't do an alignment because I needed front\rear struts, front lower ball joints, front outer tie-rod ends, and rear sway bar link. OK, apparently this cars needs tons of work but that is OK since I got it for $500.00 and had recently been out of work and flat on my ass all year. It just would have been nice if the told me they couldn't align my brand new tired before they installed them.
Anyhow, I took the list Belle Tire gave me and told them I'd be back in a few weeks because I could not afford the 1600.00 plus dollars they wanted for the work that needed to be done. I took it upon myself to order the parts online and install everything myself. My total cost was 600 and that included new rotors\pads, and shoe\drums. Saved myself 1000 but it was a lot of work. Anyhow, I finally was finished with the work so I took the car back to Belle Tire to have the tires aligned and the manager told me he would be done in an hour and he would call my cell when he was finished.
After going home to get my wife and returning the manager told me there was a "problem". He said they couldn't do the alignment because the lower ball joint was a "4" and the alignment would work. He said the ball joint nut wasn't tightened and the drive up there must have damaged it.
BS. Because my father in law and I replaced the ball joint and he is a retired certified mechanic. Also I only drove the car 1/2 mile up the road to Belle Tire. I asked him how much to replace and he said 250 plus 65 for the alignment. I told him to just align the tires and I'd take my chances. I asked him how long until the car would be done and he said not long. I asked if it was going to take an hour because I'd rather go home 1/2 mile away for an hour rather than wait and he said it wouldn't take that long. So I asked a THIRD time how long it would take and he said 45 minutes. So I left and went home and they called my in 30 minutes to tell me it was complete.
After I picked up the car and drove home it smooth and quiet as can be. Belle Tire lied to me about my lower ball joint being bad. Then they got mad at me and wasted my time because I refused to have them fix it and told him to just do the alignment like I asked in the first place. I assume they figured I just spent all that time and money having the car fixed so they could upsale me $250.00 on an each ball joint change because it was all just replaced. And yes I was in dress pants and a sweater. Must have looked like I didn't know anything even though I'm an automotive test engineer and for the most part mechanically inclined.
Crooks. I was pretty upset with Belle Tire and can honestly say I won't go back. Simply because the managers attitude was so rude and they wasted my time. If they truly believed the ball joint was bad they should have called me while it was on the rack because I would have had the alignment done regardless. Whatever. That's my 3cents.
OSHTEMO, MICHIGAN -- Belle (Hell) Tire and Discount Tire to Rescue. January 9,2009: I sent my son to Belle Tire 6780 West Main Oshtemo, MI 49009 to purchase a new set of Goodyear TripleTred for my 2007 Grand Prix with about 40,000 miles on the car. Bought set of tires. January 16 or 19: Son went back to Belle Tire because of tire shake. They rebalanced all tires. ** at Belle Tire gives a quote for tie rod ends and says there is a bent wheel (out by ¼). I called and talked to Chad and I refused repairs. I had my son bring the car 60 miles to my house to my auto shop.
January 20, 2009: Appoint at my auto shop and my bucks to check it out: no bent wheel, no bad tie rods, and no bad front end parts at all, so no repairs needed. What a surprise. My mechanic rebalanced the tires and suggested that we had bad tires. January 23-30: I called Belle Tire and asked for a regional or district manager. I got a guy named ** and I discussed my problem. We made an appointment for February 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm.
February 9, 2009: I took off work early to make the 5:30 appointment (I work to 5:00 and it is an hour drive). ** put the car on the alignment rack, we waited, he came and got us, nothing wrong with front end. ** offered to balance tires, said that the quote for front-end repairs should never had happened (nothing wrong) and gave us his apology. At this time I asked him what he was going to do about the scratched wheels from the tire changer? (Car had OEM tires on when I purchased the car two weeks before the tires were installed) I had inspected the wheels just before the tire purchase; they were like new, no scratches or nothing. ** would do nothing for me.
February 16: talked to ** again, he agreed to have the tires rebalanced or replaced at the Portage store per my request. Son took car to Portage store that week and they replaced one tire and rebalanced all tires, took for test drive and tires shook, returned and replaced one more tire, test drive and seemed OK. Within two days tire shake is back.
Between Feb 10 and March 5: I found the phone number for Don Barnes, CEO of Belle Tire and I left no less than 5 messages for him. No returned calls from Don Barnes. March 5, 2009: I called Don Barnes again; I got to talk to him. He was very helpful and wanted to know if I had pictures of the wheels. Asked for me to send and he gave me his cell number. Same Day, I emailed pictures of the wheels. Mr. Barnes called me and said that they would replace the wheels and they were on order and should be in by Feb. 10 at the Portage, MI store. I was not happy with the Oshtemo store after ** had tried to replace front-end parts that were not needed. Sound good.
March 13: I called Don Barnes to ask about wheels, will check and call me back. March 13: ** called me (per talking to Don Barnes) ** said they cannot get new wheels and they want to put their 16' rims and tires on car and send wheels to Keystone for remanufacture. About a 4 day turnaround. I asked ** several hours to evaluate his offer. I went to local Cadillac-Pontiac dealer with the car. Local dealer can have wheels in two days, in stock at dealer warehouse. I called ** and gave him the dealer and part number and price. I said that his wheels on my car would be like holding my wheels hostage; I was not comfortable with that option.
Don Barnes called me back and said he needed more time to get wheels at his cost. I told Mr. Barnes that I wouldn't be held hostage with my wheels gone after the track record of Belle Tire this far. Don Barnes wants more time to get wheels. I said that is fine.
March 17: ** called and told me that wheels will be at the Portage store today and ** will call when in. 11:30, ** called and wheels are in. We made appoint for 2 pm for install. 2:00 pm, my son called from Portage store, 1 wheel is not same color as other 3 wheels, paint has over spray - obvious that the wheels are used and not any better than ones on the car now. We refused to take the wheels offered. Don Barnes and I had agreed that I would get either New (OEM) or remanufactured (Keystone) wheels. Offered wheels were neither. I called ** and he offered a new set of Belle Tire wheels.
I reminded him that new wheels will not resolve the tire shake and that I liked the stock wheels. I just want to be restored to my condition before I came to Belle Tire. No I do not want your wheels, thus far you do not stand behind your products.
I called Don Barnes and left a message. I got no return call. March 25: I sent email to Don Barnes asking again for resolution of this issue, I just want to be restored to my condition before I came to Belle Tire. Don Barnes returned the email and the gist of it was "What is it exactly that you want Belle Tire to do because it seems that everyone of our efforts are going by the wayside?" This is the last that I heard from Don Barnes.
April 3: I sent an email to Don Barnes asking for resolution to this issue. I still have damaged wheels and tire shake. Discount Tire Benton Harbor, Michigan to the Rescue. I call my local Discount Tire and made an appointment with **. Had my son bring the car 60 miles home and took the car in and they inspected the wheels and tires. Had some out of round tires and they ordered new set of tires for us. Several days later we returned and had the new set installed. Problem resolved with the tire shake. I still have the damaged wheels on the car, obvious damage from Belle Tire and their tire changing personal and equipment. Belle Tire Sucks.
WHITE LAKE, MICHIGAN -- It all started on March 9, 2009. I visited the Belle Tire in White Lake Michigan to purchase new wheels and tires. I was looking to get chrome wheels instead of the factory machined. I purchased a set of MKW 20” chrome wheels along with 275/55/R20 Pirelli tires. I was there for about 2.5 hours for install. I had to return about a week later due to a bad vibration at the speeds of about 70 MPH. I do not take the freeway very much to get to the speed of 70 MPH. When I went back they re-balanced the tires and said that they were off for some reason. I was there for about 1 hour for balancing.
After about another week or so later, I had to return for the same reason… A vibration! They once again re-balanced them and sent me on my way. I was there for about an hour for balancing. They still can't figure out why it is off balance. They said that they were going to duck tape my weights to the rim! He asked me if I wash my truck. Obviously I do. He said it could be throwing the weights. Another week or so went by and the vibration was there again. I then decided to go to the Belle Tire in Commerce Michigan to see if they could fix this issue. I got there and told them about my situation and they said they would check it out.
They said they checked the balancing and it was off by almost 2oz on each tire. I was there for about an hour for balancing. After about another week I had the vibration again and went back to the Commerce store. He said that the balancing was off again, so they re-balanced them. Once again another hour wait. After that I went right to the highway to test and the vibration was still there. I went back to the Commerce store to get my money back. He stated that I needed to go back to the White Lake store where I purchased them as it would affect his bottom line and he didn't make the sale.
I went back to the White Lake Store and asked about a refund and I was unable to get a refund even though it was within 30 days and had all these problems. I then called corporate to help me with this issue. Of course there is no one to talk to and you have to leave a message. I received a call back two days later from a guy from another Belle Tire store trying to help me out. I explained the issues. He told me we would get the vibration fixed and they just need some time. So they ordered the same rims MKW but in 17” and new tires. They put those on the next day and I was there for another 2 hours or so.
Once again there was a vibration! Went back and they did the re-balancing thing a couple more times. Nothing worked. They said it might need to be Road Force tested and they don't have any of those machines in their shops except there training office downriver. I would have to leave my car for a couple of hours and also make an appointment to take it down there. That would not work as I use my car for work every day. I took my car to discount tire as they have the Road Force balancer at all their locations. They said with it being new tire and wheels that it was probably a balancing issue. They balanced them and found that it was off about 1.5 oz per tire.
I went back the next day because that did not fix the problem. They then road forced balanced them and said they were off by a little bit, but there was still the vibration when driving. So I spent $80.00 for Road Forced balancing and $40.00 for the initial balancing at Discount Tire, on top of the $1357.00 I spent for the initial wheels and tires.
I went back to Belle Tire with the report from Discount tire and told them wait they had said about the wheels not being compatible with my vehicle due to the offset in weight. When you look on MKW's website and check out a 08 Expedition XLT it says that those wheels are not compatible with my truck.
So Belle Tire ordered another set of wheels and tires. These ones were shipping from California and would take 5 days to get here. It was a little over a week before they called me to say they were in. I went in to have them installed and they would not fit over the brake caliber. These were Force Blunt wheels, also not compatible in a 17” for my truck on their website. So he said he needed to re-order and it would take about a week to get them but he was ordering them in 18” so they would fit. After a week went by I called to find out when they would be in. He said that they were making them.
I was leaving for out of town that upcoming weekend and my truck was not drivable on the freeway due to the bad vibration. They ordered a different rim (an Ultra) to be delivered that day. They came in and they put them on. The next day I called back to tell them that it had more vibration that it had in the past. I then started looking for a set of factory wheels (OEM) since I sold mine thinking that I would not need them any longer. I found a set for $1150.00 for just the four wheels. I purchased them and took them to Belle Tire to install. They used the original Pirelli's that I had on the first time with these wheels. I got on the freeway to test and finally no vibration.
I was so excited I had no vibration, the first time since March. I made it about 15 miles stopped ate dinner. After leaving, on the freeway it started to vibrate really bad again. I called the tire place that I purchased the OEM wheels at and he said bring it to him and he would look at it for me. They closed at 5 pm but would be happy to stay after to help me out as I was going out of town the next day. He took a tire off just to check the balance and while it was spinning you could hear something in the tire. He took the tire off the wheel to find the tire pressure sensor floating around in the tire which was installed to rim with clear packing tape.
So he took off the other three tires to find that each sensor in each tire was floating around and all installed with packing tape. He re-balanced them and it ran perfect! I went back to Belle Tire the next day before I left for out of town and showed him the picture I took of the packing tape around my wheels which they used to install the sensors instead of the clamps. He then stated he knew about it and said they have been using zip ties, packing tape, etc to hold these on! I was so upset! All these issues I have had with vibration and they are using packing tape! What a joke!
I have now spent money at Discount Tire, Belle Tire, and the local tire shop, plus the cost of my OEM wheels. I have now spent $2747.00 between all three places just to eliminate the vibration. I asked for a refund for the wheels the day that they installed the OEM wheels. He stated that they would have to mail me a check even though I paid with my credit card. After finding out that they taped my sensors to my wheel I want a refund of everything that I paid for. I paid for new tires, wheels, lug nuts, sensor clamps and install.
After these 6 months of torture, all I ended up getting from Belle Tire was a set of tires. I visited them about a total of 18 times not including the other places I had to go. I fell that I am entitled to a full refund on my credit card like it was paid for.
ROYAL OAK, MICHIGAN -- Do not go to Bell Tire if you care about your car or your safety!!! I brought my car in for them to check when it was hiccuping and jolting strangely. I knew nothing about cars and trusted them to diagnose and take care of it. They looked it over and gave a diagnosis. They charged me $450 to change plugs and wires that they quoted, then another $75 to turn off my check engine light, which they simply added on without asking me prior. They didn't check the oil before resting the light. Within 5 days my engine blew.
Apparently because of two errors on their part, as I have learned since: Gas got into my oil when the car was misfiring causing poor viscosity and the oil was low. The combination blew my lifter, thus my engine. When I came back to this location complaining that they turned off the light and didn't check the oil, they towed my car to their "friendly trans shop" with the Bell guys, manager included, all saying it "sounded like the transmission" to them. Their trans shop agreed with my other two diagnoses, blown lifter due to low oil and gas in oil. I'm a single mom, working 3 jobs and a grad student and they wouldn't take any responsibility.
I'm basically broke and this was a very big deal for me and my little boy. I had to sell my car on Craigslist "as is with blown engine", 5K less than it was worth prior to Bell touching it, and borrow down payment money to lease another car. This was after spending almost 2K at Bell Tire earlier in the month on Ball Joints, U-Joints, and then plugs +. I feel very used and thrown to the curb by their neglect and lack of accountability when I trusted them with the smallest detail of checking the oil.
Thanks for absolutely nothing Bell Tire, when I asked you to take responsibility for your mistake and you have insurance for errors like this. Shame on you guys, you took advantage of a single mom who trusted you, knowing very little about cars. All potential customers consider your self-forewarned, this could be you.