CHESAPEAKE, VIRGINIA -- On May 5 2014 we purchased a 2010 Camaro. In the window of the car the federal trade commission sticker or buyers guide stated that the car was pre-owned certified by Chevrolet. This meant we received 12 month 12k mile bumper to bumper GM warranty, 24 month GM oil change plan and balance of 5 yr 100k mile powertrain warranty along with GM certified 172 point reconditions. We signed this FTC sticker per the law and the dealer had read it to us. After a month quite a few things started to go wrong on the car so I made an inquiry to General Motors. The car was in fact not General Motors pre owned certified.
So we called and called the dealer, no call back. Finally called Langley credit union and their vice president of lending got the used car manager ** to call us back. Also ** the delivery girl to call us also because she sold us paint sealant that never was put on the car. Her most professional response was “It's not my fault, what do you want ME TO DO ABOUT IT?” Well a $ 695.00 refund to start. As far as the car goes ** was very nice, offered to give a priority version of the GM certified warranty. I asked him to ask his boss to see if we could just pick out a different car. Ask no harm, no foul. I did mention we bought a 2014 in January, didn't I hum ok.
He said he would but I could trade the Camaro in, lose a few thousand dollars and get a different car even though it was their fault. Well still waiting for that call back. Hope I don't hold my breath. We have only put 100 miles on the car. If this is how they treat a 2nd time customer good luck first time ones. The complaint is currently on file with the Norfolk Better Business Bureau Virginia attorney general's office Virginia department of motor vehicle dealer enforcement and the federal trade commission.
After 900 miles in a Chevrolet Traverse, and halfway through my rental, I thought I'd share my impressions. We currently own a 2001 Yukon XL K1500 (4x4) and have long been fans of Chevy trucks. Overall, the Traverse does not disappoint. The kids (3) and wife really like the interior of the Traverse, and we all found it to have decent room. The compartment under the rear floor was very handy when going into national parks, using that to sequester our valuables and hide them from view.
Our longest single ride was about 200 miles, and the seats are very comfortable though the steering requires constant correction on the highway. I normally drive with my left arm on the arm rest and my right hand on the shifter (bad, bad habit, I know, but after about 800K miles, all I can say is it works). After several days of trips, my left hand is a bit tired from keeping the wheel a smidge to the right. It's a rental, so a previous renter could have tagged something, sure.
On the road, we regularly pushed around 9 over the limit, which is 70mph through most of areas in Kentucky and Tennessee we've been driving through. At that rate, we're seeing high 17s to low 18s, much lower than the EPA-rated 24mpg a front-wheel-drive Traverse is suggested to get. It's not far off from our non-cylinder-deactivating V8 Yukon (rated at nearly the same HP, by the way). The OBC reported gas mileage matches the numbers we're seeing when comparing gallons to miles. The speedometer reads 1mph low at 80 according to our GPS. 80 indicated is 81, just enough to get you that ticket.
The stereo is quite reasonable for a factory effort and no one had many complaints about the seats. My 14yr old girl did raise concerns that the center belts dug into her hips after that much seat time. Center seats are a bit narrow. Many formal reviews indicate 3 adults can sit in the middle row, I would disagree given the feedback from several people in the rear middle seat. I would say two adults and a pre-teen would fit. My very fit tri-athalon-winning sister spent 2 hours in the middle today and did shared my 14 year old's concerns about the middle seat of the middle row.
The rear seat access is very good, and the kids frequently argued over who got to sit in the back (at first it was the hot spot to be, later the less-desirable spot. Kid politics!). The rear seat folds in 2 parts. With luggage, the truck could seat 6. With luggage for a family of 5, junk food, iPods, video games, and other road-trip must-haves, 5 was just right. In the rain, the handling and performance was unchanged. It felt sure-footed and the wipers worked well, front and rear.
My wife is probably a good representation of an average car buyer. I, on the other hand, am not - I'm pretty picky and a bit assertive driving my cars. I'm more at home in a taut sports sedan or a healthy SUV than in a cushy Cadillac or Buick. In the curves of 54 in Tennessee, which would be a great motorcycle road, the Traverse did well for a crossover. A bit more body roll than I would have liked, but acceptable for this class of vehicle. The transmission and I, however, are having a love-hate relationship. I love that it's a 6 speed, I hate that it's clueless.
Add in cylinder deactivation and you have vehicle that can't seem to make up its mind as it turns off or turns on cylinders or unlocks or locks the torque converter. To my family, these shifts are imperceptible. To me, someone who's highly in tune with my ride, it's fingers on a chalkboard. After 150 miles, I stuck it in L, manually selected "5" and left it there for a while so I could get some respite from the constant changes. It feels like the transmission is hunting.
Again, no one else in the car really seemed to realize this was happening, and I'm pretty sure most drivers won't either. After all, how many drivers can tell one of the tires is low from driving the car? Two things my family did notice - when we go to pass someone on a 2-lane highway, the transmission will frequently shift from 6th to 4th, or worse, 3rd. The power is welcome, the lurch and neck snap from the shift to 3rd, not so much. It's hard to drive this car smoothly when applying power, tip-in is aggressive.
Additionally, when accelerating to pass someone, the car slows down when you hit the gas as it shifts into a lower gear, then accelerates, further exacerbating the neck-snapping sensation. I'm guessing it's friendlier to the transmission overall, but it's incredibly annoying to the passengers - and to the driver's who's expecting to go faster when the gas is depressed, not slower first. It's also taken me nearly 4 days to be able to leave a stop assertively without squealing the tires. Like when jumping into traffic. Try getting into traffic with an officer parked near you and see if your heart doesn't get pumping.
Add in that the drive-by-wire gas pedal changes its calibration when in reverse (the pedal becomes less responsive), and the Traverse requires some relearning and new skills. Overall, it's a nice vehicle. Gas mileage is really not much better than what we see in our Suburban, which is much better than many people expect. All I can say is sure you drive it through some city, and also check its highway manners on at least a 10 mile loop after its warmed up. If you like it there, you'll like it.
NEW YORK -- Been a loyal Chevy owner since 1972. Bought new in 2005 a Chevy 4500 crewcab,4 WD, Duromax, with all the bells and whistles. Been real happy with it, had no problems to speak of until last week. Brake sensors in rear keep going off. Had brakes checked and found to be alright (87,000 miles on truck). Then on trip to deliver two woodworking machines to GA. hear what sounds like metal rubbing on metal. Bring truck to a big truck mechanic, he checks brakes, axle bearings, universals and rear end fluid level. All are O.K., but he thinks it is the ring and pinion gear. He can't fix it for two weeks because he is backlogged in work right now.
He suggest that I bring it to a Chevy Dealer to get fixed. I call the closest one to where I am at but they don't work on the big trucks. I find one twenty five miles away in Reading, PA. and they tell me they can have a mechanic take a look at it on Tues. following the labor day weekend. I leave the truck with them and get a ride home to upstate NY. I call Chevy Corp. up on Tues. and inform them what has happened as it appears that my warranty has run out the previous month. They inform me that they won't do anything unless I have a Chevy dealer do the work. I inform them that the truck is at a Chevy dealer and then they tell me that I have to authorize the work.
The service people at the dealership tell me that it is the ring and pinion gears. The cost will be around $6000. They tell me not to worry as Chevy will help me out because it is so close to the warranty running out. I tell them to go ahead with the work. Bill is about $5600. The Chevy rep. comes and looks at the truck, informs me no help from Chevy, reason is your truck is overweight.
Nobody weighs the truck, nobody knows the weight of the machines, nobody knows the weight of the truck empty, nobody knows how much weight the truck can carry. He bases his decision on just looking at the truck and the lift at the dealer can't pick my truck up. My truck weighs about 8500LBS. empty. The dealer in NY where I get my truck serviced can't lift my truck up empty when I get my oil changed.
I will also mention that when I brought my truck to the dealer in PA. where the work was done one of the service techs tells me that they don't work on these big trucks and he also checks with the manager and returns with the same answer. I explained to them that I have already talked to a service tech. and was told to bring the truck in to this dealership for the repairs. I really feel that I am getting shafted by Chevy. I talked to several people who said at the least Chevy would pay for the parts and me the labor as the warranty has just ran out.
DETROIT, MICHIGAN -- I have a 2008 Chevy Aveo with 103,000 miles on it. The air conditioning compressor just failed on this car, and I have been told that replacing it will cost $850. The fact that such a vital and expensive part failed on a car that is only 4 years old and does not contain an extreme amount of miles is unbelievable and reflects the poor quality of Chevrolet.
Thus, I contacted Chevy about it, was assigned to a representative, and was told to take it into a dealership to have it diagnosed and then we would talk about them possibly providing cost assistance. The dealership said that the expansion valve needed to be replaced and that the compressor should work fine after that. I reported this to Chevy, who said that they would not provide any cost assistance because of the mileage on the car (by the way, they knew the mileage of the car BEFORE they told me to take it for a diagnosis, which I paid $40, and that they would determine afterward whether to provide cost assistance or not).
So I took the car back to my mechanic, who replaced the expansion valve. Guess what? The air still doesn't cool and, just as my mechanic had originally stated, the compressor has to be replaced. So, I am having to spend $850 to replace the compressor on a 4 year old car that Chevy deems as high mileage. Thus, Chevy is basically telling me that their parts go to crap around 100,000 miles, which is very early on vehicles these days. They could have at least paid for the part.
I have owned numerous vehicles and driven them until they stop. I have never had such an expensive part failure on a vehicle this young and at this amount of miles. Oh, and this is not an isolated incident. Strangely, my friend who owns a Chevrolet truck is going through the EXACT same issue with his compressor. This will be his second compressor in 4 months! This is my first and last Chevrolet purchase. So, beware potential Chevrolet buyers. If you want a vehicle that's in it for the duration, look elsewhere.
CRANBERRY TWP., PENNSYLVANIA -- $36k 2004 Chevy Express 73k only 1 winter. Purchased at Kenny Ross 2005. 36k mile, 3 year warranty. Has been in the shop 4 times for the same problem - brakes and leaky axle seals. Never repaired until we fixed it ourselves by replacing the calipers, rotors, and pads from rusted pistons. Over $16k in major repairs. Brakes, seals, rear end, transmission, computer, coil packs, exhaust gaskets, transmission lines and cables, blown hoses, abs, map sensors, mass air sensors, electrical failure, oil pan and other things that would take all day to right. Most repairs from missing bolts and rust and corrosion. We have towed this truck 14 times.
So how does Kenny Ross resolve the problems with the customer. Trade in for $5k and $36k out of my pocket for a new one. Mind you this truck cost us $52k with purchase and repairs for 73 thousand miles only to be valued at $5k. Their answer "We didn't build it" and a laugh.
We own 2 Cummins, Isuzu NPR, Nissan UD, Ford 7.3 with 287k miles, older GMC topkick and personal use a Land Rover Freelander, Porsche, Roush Mustang, Miata and a CJ5. This 2004 Chevy express has cost more maintenance than all our vehicle put together.
To those smug Kenny Ross salesmen, I am disappointed in this purchase and took a huge loss and you thought it was funny. My experience with you was cheap and sneaky. Not once did I feel you cared about the problems with this vehicle. To me, choosing Kenny Ross was a mistake that will not happen again. My whole experience felt crooked and dishonest with the warranty but mostly with the salesmen. The truck was traded in for $8600 and I am happy to say we replaced it with a Nissan UD.
To all the people who feel that in their opinion GM or Chevy has treated you unfairly, I understand your grief. I am a recent college graduate who had the opportunity to buy a Chevy through the GM College you program. After going through the process of becoming a member of that program, it did not lower the cost of the vehicle I wanted to purchase. This is because they assume that you are dumb and are paying MSRP for the vehicle. I was offered straight out from my dealer an invoice price. So Chevy marketing told me that I must be a good negotiator and that the college student program assumes you to be the type of person who does not negotiate.
I find this practice of saying you will give students a discount and then saying it does not apply to a person who negotiates unfair. So if you negotiate for any Chevy on the lot and get your best deal offered to you then tell them you are eligible for the student discount it may not save you money. A promotional offer/ incentive in my opinion is one that you can use regardless of what a person agrees to pay for a product. This was a major let down to me and resulted in a no sale because Chevy would not resolve this issue.
Secondly I am a GM card holder with a lot of GM card money earned. I thought it was unfair to give someone with 600 dollars in earnings an extra 600 or even 1400 in cash towards a new truck but to tell someone who earned 2000 in points that they would give you nothing and not let you spend more than 2000 points. If you think these types of things are fair, then you are the ideal GM customer. Written by a guy who owned Four GM cars in 2011.
After reading other reviews on this site, I have to say I'm not only appalled, but frightened for the safety of myself and my 5 year old daughter with continued use of our only vehicle, which is a '98 Chevy Lumina. I was involved in a thankfully non-injury accident the first week of February 2010, where I was stopped at a stop sign and a vehicle turning into the parking lot I was waiting to exit hit a patch of slushy ice/snow mixture and slammed into my driver's side door at approx. 25 mph (she didn't slow enough for the turn anyway, but moot point).
Thankfully, neither of us was injured, but I found it extremely worrisome that not only did MY airbag not deploy, but neither did the passenger side airbag. One defective airbag, I can understand as a one-off incident, but with BOTH failing to deploy, I'm less inclined to attribute to happenstance, and more as shoddy workmanship by the manufacturer. I'm honestly wondering if I truly HAVE airbags at this point; after all, I've never seen them, and they didn't deploy when they should have. It's entirely possible that I've got nothing but empty space in my steering wheel and dash.
If not, I might as well have empty space, for all the good it's doing me. Then, I get online to research possible reasons for them not to deploy (i.e. Does it have to be a certain speed of impact, or triggered by head-on or rear collision only, etc) and I find this site, where not only are the NUMEROUS defects listed with the same car I've got, but that I'm not the only one who had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM with the airbags. And, apparently, the airbags are just crap all around, because there are a few people listed here who had them popping out for no reason whatsoever.
All I can say is that first chance I get, I'm going back to Honda Accord. I'd much rather spend $300-$500 every two years on CV joints and outer tie rods than not have working airbags or other equally dangerous defects. Made In America was SUPPOSED to be a good thing, but evidently... not so much.
I live in New Orleans, Louisiana and after I experienced problems with my car after hurricane Katrina I purchased a 05 Chevrolet cobalt in November of 2005 from a certified used car dealership. I did a Carfax report on the car and nothing came back on the car. I purchased an extended warranty for my car as well. Within the first month it started when I needed my headlights pushed up and my air conditioner was leaking all over the floor.
When I brought my car to the dealership the front desk people came to inspect the problems and informed me that my car had been wrecked in the front that my warranty was now void! Not to mention that I had to bring it 5 hours away from my house b/c all of the New Orleans dealerships were out of commission or I would have to wait 2 to 3 months. The dealership told me they could not do it unless I wanted to pay for it. I contacted the owner of the dealership and basically threatened to call all local news stations and he fixed the problem.
About 2 months later I was commuting from Jackson, Mississippi to New Orleans weekly, and my cruise control stopped working and the wheels began shaking very badly on my way back to New Orleans. I took it to the dealership I purchased it from. They told me while they had it they would fix a recall with the headliner. So I go to pick it up and everything worked fine. 2 days later I realized on my way back to Mississippi that the cruise control would not work at all on the interstate, only on highways.
The dealership made me wait 2 months to bring it back in and gave me a line of crap about my warranty not covering it and the part I needed replaced would be an absurd amount of money. About 6 months my automatic door locks stopped working and would only work when used with my alarm remote. A few days after that my driver side door would not open. 2 months later my car locks started going crazy and locking and unlocking themselves when the car was on and off. A few months ago my unlock button on my alarm remote stopped working.
I changed out the battery but it still did not work. Now here I am driving down the street and I hear beeping and see that my car is telling me that the power steering is completely out. Imagine that.. just when you wonder how could it get worse. Me and my husband are looking for another car for him and I will NEVER buy another Chevrolet or American made car again! EVER!! I can honestly say that I HATE CHEVROLET!
Have you forgot what the build was supposed to be modeled after? The car was designed to rival the Mustang that was modeled after there "hot rod" 60's era. The 2010 was supposed to be modeled after the same era, the only era that even looked half way decent. I have been a mechanic for over 10 years and been working on cars since I was 7 in the back yard. Currently have my own shop and struggling along like the rest of the city. I would usually start talking about Fords now and say how I like them so much because they keep me in business, being that if I only worked on them they would keep me busy enough to keep my doors open.
Oh I specialize in transmissions not writing letters, but I saw the new Camaro coming out of retirement on a commercial tonight 4/24/09. Hey I might need a new shop soon tell the GM manufactures to call me before they fold up I might be looking to buy, if they don't suck the life out of their business before it folds up. I'm highly depressed when I look at this car and even more so when I think of the poor quality that went into making this car. Because judging by past experiences the quality of all domestic cars has gone way, way, way down. And keeps plummeting.
I am and have always been a Chevy man but when asked what is a good car to own or buy I am ashamed to say "buy a foreign car". Toyota is one of the best on the market, Honda is way up there to the Corolla, Camry, Civic, Accord, Tundra. Man Chevy, Ford and of course Dodge can't even touch those cars. Speaking of that the 2010 Chevy Camaro looks like a Nissan Sentra on crack. I mean really what was wrong with the first 30 designs? They just kept getting worse and worse now it's not even something I want to buy. I'll go buy a new tundra and recommend everyone I come across to do the same.
People wonder why we mechanics buy a 200 dollar car, fix it and drive it. Because it's better quality that way -- and at least it works for once. Oh and yes I own several Chevys everything from a 67 Camaro to a 95 s10 and even a 90 Suburban. Some of the cars I feel they got right, the 67 because it's a sexy ass hotrod, the suburban because it's a huge freaking tank and the 2.2 S 10 because it's a gas saver and it's a truck. I call it mighty mouse because I put it through hell and it takes it and asks for more. But try to buy something like that new. Good luck, better buy from overseas I'm telling you, you'll be a whole lot more happy.
MIDLOTHIAN, VIRGINIA -- Two weeks ago I received a recall notice in the mail regarding a malfunctioning speedometers on many General Motors products. In the notice GM claims that if you have had this problem fixed previously you can apply to be reimbursed. Well that's true but the chances of getting paid are slim if you have any miles on your vehicle. So, the recall states that they will cover your vehicle with an extended warranty of 7 yrs of 70K miles. Well my '03 Tahoe started having the problem of the speedometer sticking over 2 years ago (around 40K miles). At that time I contacted the dealer and inquired about any possible recalls since I knew 3 other people with the same issue.
They stated that they were repairing dozens every week but GM was not covering the repair. So, finally last year my speedometer stop working completely and my inspection was due. So, I went to the dealer and had the repair done for approximately $350. Now here we are, I have applied for the appropriate reimbursement and my claim was denied because the repair was "officially" done outside of the 7yr/70k, whichever comes first guidelines. My truck was repaired when the vehicle had 77K mile in it. This has really ticked me off because I am a loyal GM customer.
I current have two other GM vehicles ('06 Vette and '03 Denali) and I feel the least they could be was repay me for my expense for a clearly defective product. Through the dealerships repair shops GM knew this issue existed years before final offering any coverage for their defective product they sold to tons of customer. This again is a prime example of the US auto makers not caring about their customer. I also own a Lexus and not only do they stand behind their product they are reasonable people and try and retain customers. I am done with General Motors. I am sure many GM customers will relate be the frustration I feel. Maybe we can band together and sue for the money?