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Posted by Smaya1122 on 02/17/2004
CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA -- On Saturday, August 30, 2003, my boyfriend Tony, 34 years old, and I, 29 years old, were involved in a terrible car wreck that nearly took our lives. I was driving on W.T. Harris Blvd in Charlotte, North Carolina about 6:30pm when something small like a possum ran into the road. My first instinct was to avoid from hitting it, sadly I ended up running off the road on to the grass median and hitting the ditch. The nose of my car went down into the ditch and caused my car to flip head over tail three times to oncoming traffic on Harris Blvd. During the last flip, and now on the wrong side of the highway, while still in the air, a man driving a white Lincoln Navigator crashed into both my front and back passenger side doors. The Navigator carried my car a few feet and then when he was finally able to stop my car slid off his hood then spun around a few times and then the car jump the guard rail. If the guard rail had not been there, we would have gone plunging down into the woods. The front tires were hanging on to the guard rail. I am not sure what happen to the man in the Navigator, but I do know that his SUV was seriously totaled upon our impact and he had to be air lifted to the hospital. Tony and I had to be cut out of the roof of my car and rushed to the Trauma Hospital.

Believe it or not, none of my air bags deployed during this accident, NONE. (PRODUCT LIABILITY) I was driving a brand new 2003 Honda Accord EX, only 10 months old, and none of my air bags deployed. Honda is rated as having some of the safest vehicles on the road, but my brand new car flipped over 3 times, was hit by a big Navigator in both my passenger sides doors, in which the impact totaled his SUV, but none of my Honda air bags deployed. I THOUGHT THEY RAISED THEIR SAFETY STANDARDS FOR THEIR NEWER AUTOMOBILES??
The injuries Tony and I suffered were a direct result of these air bags not deploying. (My doctor is willing to document that). From my body not being stabilized by the front or curtain side air bags my knee hit the dash board and caused my leg to be pushed back which broke my pelvic bone at my hip. I now have a plate and seven screws in my hip. I suffer with a significant amount of pain daily that I am trying to learn how to control. My hip will never be or feel the same. Not only have I already started to develop arthritis in my hip but there is also a chance that I may need total hip replacement surgery in the next 8-10 months. Tony is pretty banged up and having many problems with his shoulders back and neck. His doctor has recommended that he have surgery to repair his shoulder problem and fix his pain problem. This surgery will put him out of work for 3 months.

During my investigation with these airbags, I found in the new Honda’s, that if one of these air bags is activated and deploy, they will all deploy. This means that if the Honda flipping over 3 times was not enough to activate these air bags then definitely the Navigator colliding into both of my passenger side doors should have activated all of them.

Basically my previous attorney told me that I had no case because he had spoke with a representative from Honda, who explained to him that if I wanted to file a claim against Honda I would have to go through my insurance company. The crazy thing about that is Honda went and picked up the car from the junk yard before they said this. Honda was being very cooperative with me until they picked up that car. Well unfortunately I am having a huge problem with my insurance company paying for my accident; therefore, that is not an option right now. I told him that I thought that is why people hire attorneys. He told me that there was nothing more that he could do to help me and Tony. He has since not taken anymore of our calls. This seems very weird.
After doing some online research, it seems that there are alot of people that this has happened to. We need to come together and do a class-action lawsuit. I am definitely going to make sure my story is heard.
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Posted by sarahnkrystal on 2004-02-17:
When my husband totalled my Mitsubishi Galant at 70 mph, the airbags never went off either.
Posted by heathernwade on 2004-02-17:
I was in an accident this last Sunday evening 2/16/04 - I was driving my '01 Honda Civic up a busy street when a lady pulled out of her apartment complex parking lot right in front of me. I had no time to stop and the next thing I knew I was right on top of her. My front right side of my car is totalled, the bumber is up in the radiator...and no airbags deployed. I started looking through my owners manuel reading about the airbag and see that where I was hit - and with the speed and as hard as I hit the brakes and her... that they should have gone off. I dont know what to do, it is very disturbing that they dont work, when they are supposed to be there to help save you. I am very frustrated - the fireman at the scene even said "I cant believe your airbags did not deploy". I would like something to be done.
Posted by smaya1122 on 2004-02-18:
Heather, that is terrible. Yes I really think we need to all come together to do a class action suit.
Posted by smaya1122 on 2004-02-18:
Sarah, that is terrible, did you sue?
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-03-15:
Airbags on most cars will only deploy under certain instances such as frontal impact above X number of miles per hour. Have you gotten any opinions from some experts in your area? because from what you told me I believe that the airbags should have deployed the second you impacted the front into the ditch. Interesting Hmm
Posted by Realist on 2004-06-14:
While I am sympathetic to your situation, I cannot help but be astonished at your lack of understanding of the situation. Given the fact that you flipped end over end three times and were then struck broadside by a vehicle with twice the mass of your own, you should be at Honda headquarters kissing feet and thanking them for building a vehicle that allowed you to live. Had this been a lesser car, quite simply you would be dead. The matter of the deployment of the bags is simply that there must be aforce of acertain magnitude with certain vectors to allow the bags to deploy. if all the criteria are not met, they will not deploy. Not that they would have actually helped, as air bags do not stay inflated after deployment. The bags may have minimized your first impact, however, they would have deflated immediately thus totally ineffective for each subsequent impact. Once again, If you had been in a lesser car, you would not be alive, and suing Honda is not a realistic response. A better choice would be to take a defensive driving course and put your efforts into learning how to avoid such a disaster in the future. Sorry to be the dissenting arguement here, but one needs to point out the obvoius that you should take responsibility for own actions instead of blaming Honda for SAVING YOUR LIFE. A better choice entirely would have been to hit the possom.
Posted by nathaniel potratz potratzlaw.com on 2005-11-06:
To Smaya1122 in North Carolina:

Hi. I read your experience regarding your Honda Accord's airbags not working. You suggest the need for a class action lawsuit regarding Honda Accord defective airbags. I am an attorney and I am currently bringing just such a lawsuit. My client was also involved in a serious accident in her Honda Accord and the airbags did not work. Please contact me at potratz@potratzlaw.com to discuss further. Thanks!
Posted by pablo on 2013-07-12:
I got a honda civic 2009 like new today one car get out from the free way and smashed my car was parked is destroy no airbag activate at all ....im scare to get another another honda
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Engine failure, not once but twice!!!
Posted by Stoner on 11/02/2004
I own a Silver 2002, Honda S2000 Roadster, and so far I've had not one, but two engine failures with only 16k miles on the car!!!

Note: I am a weekend driver, and use a VW golf to get to work and back.

The first engine falure occured about a year ago, when I noticed my engine running poorly while I was on the way home. Aparently, one of the valves may have been mis-alined during manufacture ,and was subsiquently damaged... Just enough to cause loss of compression in Cylinder #3. After $3,500 expense out of pocket for a complete head rebuild, I was able to get my roadster up and running again. (Took 6 months)

This latest failure is a bit of a mistery... I'm not sure how, but aparently the engine lost 3 quarts of oil in less then two weeks from it's last oil change! With the lack of oil in the engine, one of the crank bearings was damaged... (Cylinder #3, yet again) All this went on, without an oil light or engine warning comming on! Now, once again, here I am having to get my S2000's engine fixed, but this time the est of repair is over $8,000 for the small block rebuild!!!

I've delt with all of this without Hondas or their dealer rep's support or re-enbursment for the fist time the engine died. Now it seams I'm going to have to go it alone yet again!

Needless to say, my confidence in Honda has lessoned considerably, and I'm not taken to the idea of buying a second car from Honda any time soon!
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Posted by melissa.messner.ni1q on 2004-11-02:
Just out of curiosity, why haven't you gone through Honda to get reimbursed for the first payment? If this is a weekend only car, you are probably well within the 3/36k warranty. I would've fought paying $3500 on a brand-new car!
Posted by melissa.messner.ni1q on 2004-11-02:
One more question, who changed the oil last? If it was done by a dealership or quick-lube place, you could go try to go against them. For a car to lose that much oil in such a short time, it sounds like something was not done properly during the oil change.
Posted by LegalCollector on 2004-11-02:
FYI You can have the engine totally replaced for less than 8k.
Posted by OIC on 2004-11-02:
Two cars, one for weekend drives both reasonably expensive (Cost To Own). Poor spelling and grammar. What kind of work do you do? Unless you purchased these cars used, you should have a warranty to take care of these problems. Why not call the Corporate office?
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-11-02:
I hate these things, first of all Honda was just plain stupid to allow these engines to rev to 9000 rpms ( the new S2000 redline at 7000 rpms, you smell a problem yet!!!) Unfortunatley I have had some experience with these motors. There is a place in NJ (will try to remember the name) that you should be able to find on the internet, that will sell you a replacement engine for around $3500.00. Check the NHTSA top ten lemon lawed cars and you will find the S2000 at #10. My suggestion if you repair this vehicle is to sell or trade it right away. My opinion Honda should have never allowed this engine to redline at 9000 rpms, that is a receipe for disaster. Good Luck.
Posted by 1hung2lo on 2004-11-03:
I hate these problems, they are systemic and usually can be traced to an over-revved engine. Can you supply any more information about cylinder #3? It seems to be pretty problematic
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-11-03:
...me...and my shadow...
Posted by Stoner on 2004-11-30:
Sorry about the delay in getting back to this thread.... been traveling a bit recently.

To answer your questions:

-I'm living in Germany ATM, and Honda will not deal with you if you leave the states. All my attempts to contact Honda have been ingnored.
-I didnt have too much time to check my Grammar, or spelling. (Sorry)
-I work in Field Calibrations. (What does my job field have to do with anything?)
-Oil Change was done correctly. It now seams that a failure of the rings may be at fault. Engine was burning off the oil, but not so I could notice it while driving. hence after two weeks... No oil.
-Cylinder #3 was found to be the source of the failure when a stethiscope is used to locate where the knock was comming from. The head was removed and inspected local, and found to be in perfect shape. (Figures, just rebuilt it)
Posted by Stoner on 2004-11-30:
Oh, before i forget....

Just having an engine shiped here to Germany, would cost over $1500, not including the cost of the engine (> $8000), and reinstalation ($200-400)

If you know of a place other then Ebay, I can get a replacement engine for aprox 8k with shipping post it please.
Posted by r73826779 on 2005-01-23:
The s2000 is not a weekend drivers car it is a slightly tuned down race car. If you look at any consumer reports magazine Honda and Acura are by far the most reliable and efficient vehicles on the road. So I can only hypothesize that there is more to your engines failure than technical difficulties, I myself could by an s2000 and blow the engine to peices in about 15 secs, and blame the car. I have owned several honda vehicles and driven them past the 200,000 mile mark following all the maintenace scheduless and replaced outside of that only a set of tires for winter. As far as I am concerned Hondas have been the most reliable and cost effective investment I have ever made.
Posted by r73826779 on 2005-01-23:
Also if you lost three quarts of oil the cars oil light would have been on for some time and this lack of sufficient oil would have likely resulted in sever engine damage. A car that revs to 9000 rpms is living only on its oil at that point so if its low it might not survive. Moral of the story change your own oil and check the level every time it is changed. Three quarts of oil would look like an exxon valdez incident so the oil level must have been low after its last change.
Posted by Stoner on 2005-04-06:
Just some clarification on all of this...

1st off, there was never any service lamp to speak of. Even when the oil level was being checked by my tech, no service lamp came on.

2nd, After a detailed inspection with a use of a car lift, and even after we dropped the engine out of the car, no oil leaks of any kind could be found! Disasembly and internal inspection was not feasable at my location, hence the nature of this oil loss is still in question. I can however verify that the oil was indeed filled to the correct level after the emgine last oil / filter swap.
Posted by Ces on 2006-09-11:
The problem here is between the steering wheel and the seat. If you don't know how to drive, don't by a car, get a chofer.
It is normal for this car to consume oil, specially if driven in vtec/near redline most of the time. It i your fault for not checking the oil level at least every 1000 miles. The first failure was most likely an overevv. This is Honda, valve guides are not faulty from the factory. You tried to got past redline like if you were driving a car in GT4 and the valves got bent. Please, do yourselft a favor and by a bicycle, driving is not for you
Posted by asb12 on 2007-07-22:
The engine was most likely over-reved to have any valve problems, i found out the hard way as i missed a shift at high rpm and it went past redline and broke one of the #4 intake valves and this was the end of the engine. An expensive lesson to learn.
Posted by unhappyinWV on 2008-06-26:
My son's Honda s2000 also lost oil and the engine failed. Bearing in one cylinder burnt. Absolutely NO OIL LIGHT INDICATED LOW OIL at any time. Honda rep at corporate office said that the only problems they have had is the oil light staying on. Hummm? Sound like a faulty oil switch. Also there is something about the dip stick can only be tested when car is cold. And for those who may think that my son is stupid for not checking his oil... he did. He is an ASE certified technician and can do all the repairs himself but this is still Honda's fault for the oil deprivation problems that this engine has. Indicators should work.
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Problems With My New Car
Posted by on 06/13/2001
MYRTLE BEACH, SOUTH CAROLINA -- I bough my car April 16, 2001. It is a Honda Accord EX leather. I have had to take it to the service center for THREE problems in less than three months.
1. The air conditioner stopped working
2. I went through the car wash and water began pouring from the passenger side dash
3. Reverse problems periodically. It would 'jump' into reverse.
I have been driving a loaner car from East Coast Honda of Myrtle Beach for three days while my car sits in service. They told me to come tomorrow and we will sit down and discuss this. I have told them there is nothing to discuss. I refuse to take back a brand new $23,000 car that I am buying for my college graduation this past May. It was supposed to be a good experience and so far it is a nightmare. This is the fourth Honda I have bought and I will never forget the hell I am going through with the most important one. I have hired an attorney from the Bellamy Law Firm in Myrtle Beach. He has informed me of my rights and the procedure that he will be taking. After tomorrow I will know whether I am going to court with East Coast Honda of Myrtle Beach. They represent you, and I believe you should take action. I am not moving that lemon from the dealership lot. It will stay there and we will go to court.

At the very least I would like a response from your company regarding this incident.
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Posted by Anonymous on 2003-09-17:
If I could afford it, I'd trade off my 2002 Honda Civic yesterday. It has a little over 12,000 miles on it and has been in and out of the dealer's ever since I purchased it. The last straw is today. I'd heard a "growling" and felt a vibration in the steering wheel since last week. I thought it might be my imagination and hestitated to the car in again.

However the service department just phoned saying the AC is bad. They didn't go into many details but guess it will be replaced. I'm glad I bought a serivce contrat when I bought the car even though I never thought I'd need it. The point is I'm beginning to fear taking it far from home. What else will fail. This is a top of the line auto I bought to replace a Ford Taurus. Honda has a sterling reputation but I'll think twice about ever buying another one.

Anyone else have a comment on Honda's general reliablity? I'd done my homework, read Consumer's Reports and figured I was buying of of the best cars and values on the road.

Posted by nEverclear on 2007-02-05:
I have had many troubles with East Coast Honda and East Coast VW. Check out my website to see what I have done to get some customer satisfaction.
www.myrtlebeachvw.com and www.eastcoasthonda-vw.com
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Unbelievable Service Department
Posted by BFDLude on 12/24/2004
CALIFORNIA -- This is a letter that I am sending to Honda in order to bring to their attention what is occurring in their Service Department.

To Whom It May Concern:

As of this point names are irrelevant. During this past week, I recently experienced difficulty with your Service Department. I received a friendly letter to remind me that my car was overdue for its recommended maintenance, which by the way is a great idea. So a couple of days later, I phoned Dublin Honda to schedule an appointment to get my car serviced. I called the number that was stated on the reminder letter, and had no trouble with the person on the phone. They were very polite, and transferred my call to the correct department. However, to my surprise, the person whom I was transferred to was currently away from their desk. The call went to voicemail, and I left a message that I needed to schedule an appointment for my car to be serviced. Now being a consumer who enjoys the product that they own, was shocked that someone who needs to schedule an appointment would be transferred to a voicemail, and have to wait for a returned phone call in order to schedule an appointment. It seems with common knowledge that a place of business would have at least another person to answer the phone to help schedule an appointment. Somewhere between three hours later my call was finally returned.

While making my appointment I was informed that there was an opening later in the week, or there were openings in the following week. I wanted to get it done as soon as possible because of the holiday season, so I asked what times were available the same week. There were times in the morning, 8:15, 8:45, and so on until 10:00 that were available. I took the earliest time figuring that my car would be done in the afternoon. I dropped my car off the night before and wrote the time of my appointment on the envelope. I knew that in order for work to begin on any car, the owner had to be called to approve work to be started. I put that I could be call as early as 8:00 in the morning, yet it was not until 10:00 that I was called.

It was then brought to my attention that the Service Department was unaware of what needed to be done to my car, even though Dublin Honda was the one who sent the reminder in the first place. Being that Dublin Honda failed to communicate with their customers that there are three different levels of minor service available, is the first error in your system. How is the customer really supposed to know without someone telling them in the first place? After letting them know that the basic minor service was fine, I was then informed that my car would not be ready for pickup until 4:00 PM. Now how is it possible for an 8:15 AM appointment to take until 4:00 PM to finish a basic minor service?

Being that 4:00 was an unacceptable time, I wanted the car done by 2:00 PM. The person on the phone was unable to guarantee that time, and then asked the question of when I really need the car done. Now if I said I wanted it done by 2:00, wouldn’t that inform them that 2:00 was when I needed the car by? Then the person on the phone wanted me to call Honda when I was on my way at 2:00 to see if my car was ready. I never imagined that the customer would have to call and micro-manage to make sure the car was on time. There was no way I was going to call; it is the job of the Service Department to let the customer know their car is finished, but if the customer will be paid your base labor fee to call, anyone would be willing to do that.

This problem is not that of any individual him or herself, yet the problem lies within the policies and procedures of Dublin Honda itself. Being that Honda puts out great products, it is ashamed that the service is not as powerful as its product. I have been to Dublin Honda before, and this is the first time experiencing this issue. The reason for this letter is to bring to your attention of what is starting to occur in your Service Department. Hopefully, changes can be made, and better communication can occur between the customer and the employee. As stated above, names as of this point are irrelevant.

A concerned Honda customer
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Posted by Anonymous on 2004-12-27:
We should get some cheese with this whine. Unbelievable, you actually left a message and they callled you back a WHOLE 3 hours later!! Maybe next time they should put you on eternal hold.
Posted by ganext on 2005-06-16:
Quit crying, people like you are always hated by ALL service departments... you people that think we OWE you something!!!
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Power Windows
Posted by on 10/18/2002
We have owned 5 Honda's.. We loved them alot, but one problem seems to be common in all of them.. After a few years one or more of the power windows do not work.. Presently we own the Accord 96 LX, the left front window will go down but not up and the right rear window doesnt do anything? I am seriously thinking of going to Toyota, hoping this problem will go away..
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Posted by Anonymous on 2002-10-18:
I've had 2 toyota's since 1996. Never once had a complaint or problem. I would recommend them to anyone!
Posted by Anonymous on 2002-11-11:
Just wanted to say that my company supplies the electronic connectors to Honda in many instances. Maybe you should speak to someone at Honda R & D to get this resolved, they can only fix problems that they know about. Also, have you checked NHTSA for Recalls? Go to the following web site, you can make a FORMAL complaint here and also a recall may be issued: http://www.nhtsa.org/

Posted by Anonymous on 2003-10-30:
Posted by makojuice on 2004-07-29:
i too own a honda accord 96 lx that has a faulty driver side power window. in wet conditions it wont go up.
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Power windows
Posted by on 09/17/2003
I have had my 97 Special Edition Accord in the shop 5 times for the left side drivers window not rolling up. I will roll down but will get stuck down for days. Honda will pay for the part's if the car is still under the warranty. However if your car is outside the warranty, this is about a $500 repair. I've taken car outside of Honda and was advised this is an issue with Accords.
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Trash the Opera
Posted by PGet on 07/02/2010
There was a time I was considering Honda products, but my spouse and I are in agreement that the annoying (which is using a very mild term) opera commercial is so awful we'd rather walk. What an incredible turn off. Missed the mark big time, Honda. SMT should take a long second look at your ad campagin and decision makers.
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Posted by Ben There on 2010-07-02:
Fair enough. Most people look at Honda's legendary value, durability, safety and resell value when purchasing a car, but if you bypass them for a lesser car because of an annoying ad then more power to you.
Posted by spiderman2 on 2010-07-02:
Agreed Ben! I have a 7 year old Odyssey that has never given me an issue other than normal maintenance so I can overlook an annoying commercial. I don't think I would pick a car based on the levels of annoyance on a commercial, but to each their own!
Posted by FlShopper on 2010-07-02:
The commercial is definitely kind of cheesy, but I can honestly say that I've never avoided a business because of a lousy commercial.
Posted by georgee on 2010-07-10:
Moved From Other Review: Pget wrote that she and her husband were turned off by your commercial. Not us. We love it. In fact we found her comment by trying to determin the name of the piece you used. We've heard it but can't place it.
The ad is corney but the music will bring us into the room. Honda is neither helped or hurt by the ad. You want to improve your image with an ad bring back the one where the cared builds itself out of raw parts. AMAZING!
Posted by judee on 2013-08-22:
Love the opera music but cant find what it is from. Its classy.
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Poor Service At Honda Of Sumner,Washington
Posted by Cdndogged on 02/19/2010
SUMNER, WASHINGTON -- Our family is looking for a Honda Odyssey Touring Model. We check on Craigslist for the best Price for the model and year, mileage, etc. We talked to a salesman at Sumner Honda. He was very helpful but said he couldn't go lower on the price of $26,000. So we continued to look around for a better deal. We noticed a few days later that they posted a lower price on Craigslist at $23,777. We saved the add to our computor and forwarded it to our finance broker. We called up the salesman at sumner Honda and he said it sounded a bit weird but would check it out and get back to us. He called us back and said that it must have been a mistake and said that his Used car sales manager talked to the owner and said that they will honour the price. We called back with our credit card number to the Used car sales manager, who wanted a $1000. deposit. We told him that we will drive down to test drive it and approve the deal based on our visual inspection. He agreed to show it to us and we proceeded to drive 3-1/2 hours from Vancouver, B. C. , Canada. We arrived at aprox.10:30 am on Sunday, Valentines Day. How romatic. So we meet the Used sales manager and another Canadian friendly sales representative They both sowed us the van and we all discovered that it wasn't even detailed as they said it would be. The Used car sales manager was very sad that it wasn't very good to show. He promised that it would be cleaned if we took it. We procceeded to take it out for a spin. It had high speed shimmy and they said that the brakes may need to be turned. No biggy, Wait it gets better... We say that if you can fix it up and honour the discussed price, we'll take it. The deal should proceed to sending our broker the bill of sale and title. But they never fax it.. Two to Three days pass.. They say that it's coming soon.. Finally after speaking to the Finance Manager he says: The deals not going to happen ! In shock I ask, by who ? He says the Sales manager. Well I'm no a fair bit upset and call back and speak to him. He says; the deals not happening. It was a mistake and we are not doing it. Forget about it. Oh And We arnt dealing with Canadians. I told him that he is a bigot and should not be descrimating towards anyone. Money is money and nobody told us that they didn't want to deal with us because we are Canadian. That is a joke. This sales manager, I find out is only 2 weeks on the job and this is the way he treats customers. Absolute horable service. I said that I want to talk to the owner, and he said the owner will not speak to anyone he doesn't want to. I said you are a brand new Honda Dealership and under the watchfull eyes of Honda so they should know about this, And I plan an telling the media (JESSE JONES). People, customers, Canadians, should not have to be treated like this by a Sales manager, who should be upholding the companies INTEGRITY. Stand by theie mistake and settle the deal in a professional manner. The staff involed have since been instructed to not speak about this sitsuation for fear of a lawsuit. Or losing theie jobs ? Who knows ?

Any way, I think that this is wrong and the public should know about it.
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Bad Advertisement
Posted by Rbm5827 on 07/16/2013
What is so funny about making fun of someone like in the Honda commercials? It is all bad, not funny
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Honda Paint,clear Coat Dissolving
Posted by Cookx581 on 07/08/2013
UNITED STATES, FLORIDA -- In 2008 we purchased a brand new Honda Civic from the Proctor Honda dealership in Tallahassee, Florida. 2 and a half years after this the paint on the roof started to look funny, after reviewing others complaints about this we were informed they have a clear coat issue via reading lots of complaints online. When we contacted the dealership they blamed us at first for getting bird droppings on the car that never happened....then they said to contact Honda of America giving us a 1-800 number to contact them about it. Thus passing us off to someone else.

After spending lots of time talking with Honda of America they said it was due to us buying a blue car or dark colored car,(BS). After talking with them more they "agreed" to pay for half of the repainting of the roof. The real issue is now in 2013 the top of the trunk is looking really bad the body lines are fading and other spots are appearing. The little car runs good has had very little mechanic issues but this kinda neglect to fix its appearance is a waste as they are loosing a long time buyer of Honda cars (20 years owning a Honda)

Next car we purchase will likely not be a Honda and we tell other people of this issue and not to buy one either. ( I see a lot of these same cars driving around with huge clear coat issues plus other models and colors)
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Posted by anonymous113 on 2013-07-09:
you are talking about a 5 year old car here. I mean after about 5 years or 100,000 miles that is when things start wearing out and repair costs start mounting. I would just trade the thing in for a 2013 Civic
Posted by cookx581 on 2013-07-14:
yea but the issues started happening 2 years after purchase and were never taken care of by the dealer or Honda of america
Posted by MOUSEMONGOOSE on 2013-09-30:
I have the same thing happing to my car its on the hood and its fading .....also have a crack engine block they extended that warranty to 8 yrs now my dealer won't give me a loaner when they fix it....saying it wasn't a recall ....... now fighting with Honda
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