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NORWOOD, MASSACHUSETTS -- I have a 2008 Honda Accord EXL with 30,000 miles on it. I noticed a squealing noise this week which was off and on. I called the dealer and they had me bring my car in to check it out. At the end of 2 hours I left with a $569 dollar bill which I REALLY feel is excessive . I am planning on trading this car in and going for a different make of car. I also spent almost $2,000 for an extended warranty which, at this time, has done nothing for me. I am so very disappointed in this particular vehicle and am sorry I ever bought it. I also wonder if there is a recall on Honda vehicles regarding problems with brakes? The only positive, which I am sorely looking for, is that I will never get another extended warranty and will probably not ever buy another Honda. There are many other fine automobiles out there and Honda has just lost a good friend in me
     
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trmn8r on 2011-01-08:
Brakes are a wear item, and not normally covered by any warranty of which I am aware.

It is hard to know if they took advantage of you without knowing what they replaced. I am very easy on my brakes - I put 130,000 miles on a car without doing the brakes, and they still had half their life left. Other people can go through a set of brakes in 20,000 miles...
Anonymous on 2011-01-08:
There are warranties that do cover brake wear, but do not cover the cost of additional components or labor required to restore the brake system to its former condition. The warranty generally only applies to shoes and pads. Chances are, you will end up paying if you bring the car in under warranty, as they will usually tell you whatever the issue is with your brakes is one that isn't covered.



bcd on 2011-01-08:
The $569 bill is not excessive if the rotors were replaced in addition to the brake pads. If only the pads were replaced, then that is an excessive bill.

Never take a car to a dealer for service that is not covered under warranty. A reliable brake and/or tire specialty shop will provide better service at a lower price.
angrypads on 2011-01-09:
The rotors were not replaced but they said shaved to fit the new pads. Thank you for the advice about not going to the dealer, it will be helpful in the future.
trmn8r on 2011-01-09:
Your rotors were turned and you got new pads, for $569. Yes, that is excessive.

On Ebay, I see OEM pads for $86 for 4 wheels. List price about $140. Last I remember, turning rotors is around $25. Let's say $250 for parts and turning. That leaves ($540-250)/90 = 3.5 hours labor. That is about right, but the labor for brake work is usually a lower rate than other mechanical work. But NOT at a stealer (: That is why it was so high.
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2008 Honda LX-P
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TORRANCE, CALIFORNIA -- My Honda Accord, LX-P, which was purchased in June, 2008 is already giving me problems. The brakes had to be rebuilt at 18,000 miles! Front and rear discs had to be resurfaced and rear brake pads replaced. This was not covered by warranty because it is considered a wear factor. In my 69 years, I have had numerous cars and I have never had to make these repairs at such a low number of miles. It seems to me Honda has a real engineering problem and they need to address it.

I am very disappointed with this Accord. I chose the Honda over an Altima and Camry because I believed that it would give me trouble free service for many years.
     
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Defective Brake Pads
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PEMBROKE PINES -- I also I have had a problems with my brakes and had to have them replaced every 10,000 miles or so. I drive a new 2008 Honda accord. I was also told that it was new materials that were being used that caused the pad to wear out quickly and then I was told that the it was the way I was driving the car. I have owned other cars and have never had to replace pads like this. My front brakes are the brakes that came with the car and I have not had a problem with the front.

We need to file a class action suit. In reading complaints many other owners are having the same problem. Honda needs to fix the problem. Honda is aware and is doing nothing about it.

These cars are lemons file a suit with the lemon law.
     
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A Brake Job That Will Break You
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WAYNE, NEW JERSEY -- I leased a new 2008 Honda last year. The car now has 25008 miles. When I took it in for 8th oil change, I was told I needed rear brakes. When I questioned the service manager about the need for brakes, he told me that Honda is now using smaller brake pads so that wear sooner. In fact, he assured me that 25000 is good since some owners had to replace brakes with as little has 15000 miles. Why does the consumer have to get less for their money.

Honda accord is not a cheap car. Brakes should last 40000 miles. What a rip off. Hmmmm I wonder what is next???
     
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dan gordon on 2009-02-09:
if you drive mostly in the city you will of course go through more brakes than if you drive 40 k freeway. Its unrealistic to expect a set amt of mileage out a pair of brake pads.
b5ster on 2009-02-09:
Is this complaint a joke on us? There is NO possible way that you need rear brakes at 25K miles! I could understand you needing front brakes....if you ride the brakes every mile of that 25kmiles...but needing rear brakes before fronts...That is impossible! I would call your Honda care representative (not the dealership!) and tell him or her exactly what happen to you at your dealership...NOW...YOU HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF! I own a 2007 and a 2006 Accord and have over 50K miles on both...And both have over half of the FRONT brakes pads left...and about three quarters of the rear pads left..Which is about normal for this amount of miles.
madconsumer on 2009-02-09:
if the parking brake is engaged, it too will wear down the pads.
Anonymous on 2009-02-09:
Driving habits and destinations play a BIG part in the wearing down of the pads.
b5ster on 2009-02-09:
No Madconsumer, the parking brakes are a different braking system. The parking brake consistes of a set of drum brakes with pads inside the rear rotors and has nothing to do with the pads that stop the car.
b5ster on 2009-02-09:
Aerocave on 2009-02-09:
25K miles is a lot of miles in 1 year. b5ster: Not to disagree, but I think you are a little premature on the "rip off" comment. You don't know what kind of driving this particular person does...and actually 03-07 Accords have been known to go through rear brakes at lower mileage than in the past due to the nature of the braking system...if you got 50K you did good!
b5ster on 2009-02-09:
Aerocave, You are indead correct!

I just checked it out at a Honda forum and the new Honda's are in fact made to use the rear brakes more than previuse models. So yes your rear brakes can wear out before your front pads do!
Ah Sorry for the miss-information!

Also I geuss I am lucky to have as much life left on our Accord brakes as I mentioned above...from what I just read it is not normal! Maybe it does help to drive like a little old lady...and a little old man in our Accords!
Aerocave on 2009-02-10:
...at least it'll be a great story when you trade it! (You know, the old tried and true "little old lady drove it to church") ha ha
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We need a 4th transmission in our 2001 Honda Odyssey
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GIG HARBOR, WASHINGTON -- After much research back in 2000, we purchased a 2001 Honda Odyssey Van. It was supposedly the best van, more reliable, best warranty, highest safety rating in its class.

The long and the short of it; at 117,000 miles, we are in need of our 4th transmission. The original transmission died at 49,000 miles (the dealership, West Hills Honda in Bremerton) was great about securing a "new" transmission--turned out to be a rebuilt, but they also secured a 3rd transmission when #2 died at 81,000. I have no complaints with dealership----just their product!

However, the replacement on transmission #3 is not going as smoothly----the company that re-manufactures these (Howard Engineering in Los Angeles, CA) says they will let us buy a new or rebuild transmission at their cost. How nice--on a product that is obviously substandard anyway!

Our van has had issues with the emission system and brakes since month one. We have gone through 6 sets of brakes ( no one can figure out why) the care shakes like it is ready to explode) and as of yesterday, the traction control system light came on---can someone Shout "lemon" along with me???

We were seriously considering buying a Honda Pilot--however, when I went to the website for Howard Engineering, guess what came up as readily available? Transmissions for 2004,2005, 2006 Honda Pilots!! Aaacckk! I'm running fast and furiously away from that thought!

Honda, your Odyssey Vans are junk--I have several friends who own them as well and have similar problems. I think our van takes the lemon award for transmissions, tho.

I WISH we would have bought a Toyota that year.
     
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Anonymous on 2007-05-07:
I'd have sold it after the first transmission
dodgedart on 2007-05-07:
I hate hondas. they are the most overrated cars out there. you wish you had bought a toyota. I guess you don'tlike American autos.I will never buy one again. I think of the trade deficet with Japan and their ability to make up stories so they won't import our goods. We can sell them rice for half of what they would pay for it but they rather have them consume local rice. their snow is different so they cannot import our skis.Also do you remember the downfall of our steel industry or the computer chip industry. They don'tplay fair and they would never buy anything we make because they think we are lazy. Just wondering if they are still having elephants killed for their ivory, and don't forget all the whales they slaughter every year.Thant you for supporting their economy.
Anonymous on 2007-05-07:
Ditto: PirateWithParrot. Buy a big Ford truck like mine, you can push the broken down Honda's to the side of the road. Only problem is the only thing it does not pass are gas stations.
Anonymous on 2007-05-07:
I had a 2001 Accord that needed a tranny,It was done under warranty.They even gave me a rental for a week.
snowwhite on 2007-05-07:
I had to chuckle at the "I would have sold it after the 1st transmission...." comment, as this is exactly what I would've done after tranny #2! On the advice of a salesperson, no less! My hubby wasn't quite ready to sell---oh well!
snowwhite on 2007-05-07:
I agree with dodgedart--I hate Hondas--but that's about all we'll agree on! We do like American autos and we own two Mustangs and a Chevy Silverado. I think we've done our share to support the American economy! A vacation may be in order....with a large chill pill.
Anonymous on 2007-05-07:
I love my foreign cars,and will NEVER own an American car.
Hondabad on 2007-06-16:
I have owned 4 Honda products and was their biggest fan to all that would listen. Now that I have nothing but problems with our Odyssey (transmission, many sensors), the dealer(Brantford Honda) and Honda Canada, I will never purchase one again. I will also tell of my terrible customer service issues with both Honda Canada and the dealer.
Dr Mechanic on 2008-06-15:
All cars break down, you just pay more for a Honda. It's better to buy domestic to support our workers. Yes Honda has plants here but they don't pay them 1/2 as much!
Pgh Zorro on 2011-11-03:
Our story is identical to yours. After much research, we bought a 2001 Honda Odyssey, the top choice by Consumer Reports. After approx. 20,000 miles, the transmission died. Honda repaired it and said it was "as good as new". I replied, "I hope so, because the original one only lasted 20,000 miles!" Transmission problems and excessive brake and tire wear were due to the '01 Odyssey being an extremely heavy vehicle and the transmission being too lightweight for the weight of the van. Honda extended the warranty and prior to extension expiring, started having transmission problems again and had dealership check it. They said it was fine and a few months later, the transmission went again. NOW, I am having problems with the emissions systems. I have never had an emission problem with any vehicle before my Honda. I had two Hondas, but now have a Scion and a Toyota. Have had problems with both Hondas. Have had no such problems with the Scion or the Toyota. We will NEVER buy a Honda again. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY ONLY GIVE YOU A 3 YEAR/36,000 MILE POWERTRAIN WARRANTY. IF HONDA WAS REALLY BUILDING QUALITY VEHICLES, IT WOULD NOT COST THEM ANYTHING TO GIVE THEIR BUYERS A LONGER POWERTRAIN WARRANTY! AS IT IS, THEY HAVE THE SHORTEST POWERTRAIN WARRANTY OF ANY CAR MAKER AND RIDICULOUSLY (AND FALSELY) CLAIM THAT THE REASON IS THAT THEIR VEHICLES DON'T REQUIRE A LONGER POWERTRAIN WARRANTY! HUH???
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Defective Brakes
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HOUSTON, TEXAS -- I AM A NEW HONDA OWNER I PURCHASED THIS VEHICLE BECAUSE I WAS TOLD SO MANY GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE ACCORD. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE SERVICE I HAVE 25K MILES ON THIS 2008 V6 AND I HAVE HAD TO PURCHASE NEW REAR BRAKE PADS. I AM SURE HONDA IS AWARE OF THIS DEFECT. THERE ARE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS LOCATED ON SEVERAL INTERNET SITES.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE INITIATE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.
     
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Hugh_Jorgen on 2009-06-09:
A class action lawsuit is just going to make some lawyers rich. If you have the evidence that this is a common problem, contact the NHTSA in Washington, DC and let them know about it. If it's serious enough, they could initiate a recall. Good luck.
madconsumer on 2009-06-09:
is this the same review from the other day?
saj80 on 2009-06-09:
Hugh, there seem to be several complaints of this exact nature on this site, so there must be thousands more out there, and I do agree that class-actions are for lawyers only. mad, if it isn't the same review, then Honda has a serious issue they need to fix, both from a safety issue and a PR issue.
madconsumer on 2009-06-09:
brake wear can be caused by many reasons. from poor braking ability, to riding the brakes, to leaving the parking brake set while driving.
Disappointed w/Honda on 2009-07-08:
About 1 year after purchase and 26k miles on the 2008 Honda Accord, I had to have rear brake pads replaced and the rotors turned - cost over $200 from the dealership and was NOT covered by the warranty......

This was my first Honda purchase and will be my last.

I saw on other websites that possibly turning off the VSA (vehicle stability assist) when you don't really need it may help increase the life of those rear brake pads?? Any truth to this???

It is ridiculous and frustrating that the rear brake pads or rear brakes overall have a design flaw - either intentional or unintentional....... Rear brakes in any car should not have to be replaced every 15-20k miles like has been reported by so many 08 and 09 Accord owners!!!
Disappointed w/Honda on 2009-07-08:
For the skeptics out there, I point you to this website: http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Accord/2008/brakes/premature_brake_wear-4.shtml

This problem does seem to transcend all geographic US locations (thus issues like road salt, dirt, rocks, climate, weather, etc would be negated), driving styles, etc. The problem is so wide spread that is almost certainly is a design flaw..........Most people know not to drive with their foot lightly on the pedal, drive with the parking brake even lightly applied, etc.... It has to be a design issue....
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Civic Brakes - Premature Wear
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CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA -- I'm sitting at the dealership and told that the squeeking sound I've been hearing at 9800 miles is that my brakes are worn out and need to be replaced! At cost of $265. This is very premature compared to other cars I've owned. I bought this car for low cost of ownership.

Now, I have to budget for brake replacement every 10,000 miles? This is not right. Honda needs to come clean on this.
     
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Mark on 2012-11-26:
Same thing on my 2011 Civic at 20K miles. Never had a non-warranty repair on my Toyotas and Nissans during the lease period. 1st and last Honda should have stayed with Toyota or Nissan
cookx581 on 2013-07-08:
same on my wifes civic at 30k miles the pads were gone, best advice I can give it to buy a aftermarket set of slotted rotors with matching pads. this should get you the 80k miles without service you want plus extra stopping power.
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Honda Bad Rear Brakes
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RESTON, VIRGINIA -- My 2008 Honda accord had worn brake pads in the rear at 15000 miles. Honda knows of the problem and will not do anything. We need to unite to fight them.
     
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Anonymous on 2009-04-27:
Brake pads are considered wear items and generally aren't warranted by the automaker. 15K may or may not be that bad, depending on how someone drives.
tanyasue on 2009-10-16:
My Honda brakes have the same issue. I have 27k miles on them, and that is not acceptable. This is my 4th Honda, but I will not buy another. Any company that knows they have an issue and refuses to fix it is not worth giving my money to. In this economy it will come back to bite them.
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