TORONTO, CALIFORNIA -- I am writing this review here as a warning to future customers walking into a Starbucks store managed by ** (previously at Store# 4350: 20 William Kitchen Rd, Scarborough, ON, M1P 5B7) to be cautious of him and his employees (e.g. Starbucks shift supervisor, **) based on the following incidents:
Starbucks should not allow their managers to make careless comments that can easily be misconstrued by customers. Perhaps it is Starbucks' culture to be 'laid-back' but it should never be acceptable for a male manager to say "Wow!" to a female customer upon first impression (particularly since nothing warrants this type of attention just for walking into a coffee shop in everyday wear).
If female customers walking into Starbucks LIKE this type of attention from him, he should be reserving this type of ‘special treatment' for them and ONLY THEM. Otherwise, it is NOT a compliment and it is NOT customer service. Under any other circumstances in any other company that provides customer service, this type of incident would NOT be tolerated towards customers (female or otherwise) at all.
A Starbucks store has a manager in place to manage a store and part of that includes listening to customers' feedback regarding their experiences. While most managers understand the nature of their job entails interacting with customers, this Starbucks manager has not only refused to acknowledge a customer when he/she has a legitimate complaint, he has also deliberately disrespected the customer's wishes to not be subjected to further harassment from the entire staff (including the manager himself).
AND they have also continued the same harassing technique and taken it even further upon themselves to personally retaliate against the customer for not wanting anything more to do with this. In this case, a manager at this store who refuses to handle customer service situations is not needed – Please remember to take down his name and the name(s) of his employee(s) involved in the incidents and report to the District Manager/Corporate Headquarters IMMEDIATELY.
Starbucks should not be offering food samples if they cannot stand the thought of customers eating a small piece of food for free. This manager thought I was eating his food for free despite being passed to EVERYONE ELSE in the store – the reason being because I mentioned it in a feedback letter to compliment him. Instead, he took the same feedback letter and eagerly ran off to show HIS own manager for praise and then turned around and accused me of eating his food for free.
In the event of not knowing how to provide customer service, disrupting customers' routines is not the answer. Instead of leaving customers alone and managing the store, this manager would INTENTIONALLY GO OUT OF HIS WAY to purposely antagonize customers by pulling pranks to incite a reaction (and then laughing uproariously afterwards) and making customers do things for him, thereby deliberating making them angry.
He would even TEACH these tactics to his employees and then pat himself on the back for successfully angering/harassing a customer. Customers are not there for you to prank around – we want nothing to do with the Starbucks games. If Starbucks managers feel there isn't enough to do on a daily basis, they need to ask THEIR OWN MANAGER on what else can be done.
Managers should not force customers to write feedback letters for their own promotional use to look good in front of his/her company. Customers should reserve the right to provide positive feedback on their own (Starbucks' famous ‘word-of-advertising' method), but not at the manager's request for one in order to make him/herself look good before his own company.
Sending the same employee to continually harass me (e.g. the service level will decrease until you do this for us) until I was forced to falsify a positive feedback letter for the employee should not be tolerated by the company. By doing this, Starbucks has lost credibility under this manager's doing because all ‘positive' things said about the company are generated falsely.
Managers/baristas who engage in 'establishing rapport' have a responsibility on their part. Customers who walk into Starbucks are not looking for assistance nor are they looking to gain anything from Starbucks – they are simply there to make a purchase and mind their own business.
However, when managers/baristas are looking to establish a rapport and interact with customers, it is important to keep in mind that this rapport means you DO NOT prank the customer around over and over again. This manager has not only allowed his employee(s) to conduct ‘customer service' in ANY manner possible, but has also made it acceptable for even the shift supervisor in charge to also conduct her own ‘pranks' and to follow customers outside of the store.
Managers/baristas should not trespass the boundary into their customers' personal lives. Not only is this a severe breach of privacy and respect on the company's part, it is also completely unwarranted and has nothing to do with providing customer service. A coffee shop is a place to relax and enjoy your own affairs and interaction with other patrons, not to have a manager/barista continually steal information from you or pry into customers' private, personal details when customers do not wish to disclose them. It should not be a requirement for Starbucks employees to be involved in customers' personal lives at all.
If Starbucks employees are unsure on how to do their jobs, they need to be re-trained. For some reason, despite Starbucks providing training for their baristas, they still manage to be incompetent at their jobs and this manager has not even bothered ensuring that baristas are following Starbucks' regulations.
As a result, it has become the customer's responsibility to deal with each and every Starbucks barista and the shift supervisor for not knowing how to provide customer service. If Starbucks employees (including managers) feel they are overworked or unhappy or do not want to provide a service anymore, they should take this up directly with their own manager and not out on the customer.
Managers should be wary of using the 'Making a Connection' as a sales tactic. This manager did not want customers engaging in ‘hellos' and small talk with him yet he would force customers to accept the outrageous customer service tactics bestowed upon customers, such as touching, inappropriate comments, unnecessarily 'helping out' and then having the same Starbucks employee glare at the customer when he/she approaches the same employee, small talk that goes nowhere, insincere hellos, prying into customers' personal details, and so forth.
The whole scheme was very manipulative and insincere. Their idea of a 'customer connection' was to pretend to like the customer first before hitting him/her with a sales tactic and then giving the cold, degrading treatment for not complying with them from then on. When a manager's intention of ‘making a connection' is only focused on sales instead of customer service, he/she should not be surprised when customer service standards immensely fail with the result of a customer filing a complaint to Starbucks' Corporate Headquarters in the end.
GRESHAM, OREGON -- On Thursday December 04, 2013 at approximately 5:45 PM I stopped off at the Starbucks 2233 NE Burnside Rd
Gresham Oregon (503) 465-8091 to purchase hot chocolate for my neighbor's son. This Starbucks is located in the Oregon Trails Shopping Center. My complaint involves a lack of trust and integrity at Starbucks. Is free stuff good?
Review this scenario: I purchased some hot chocolate for my six-year old friend. I was wearing new black ski gloves. I removed the ski gloves and placed them on the counter so I could pay for the purchase. After I paid I left the black ski gloves on the counter. I sat down and waited for the young man to finish his chocolate and left.
Review his behavior: When I left the cashier he did not yell out, “Hey Mister you forgot your new black ski gloves on the counter!”. When customers leave their hats, gloves or wallets on their counter that does not automatically mean that Starbucks employees have free hats and gloves. Many of you are wondering why the cashier did not point out the gloves to the customer. Maybe the cashier thought my gloves were a Christmas tip. Here is a hot tip: customers expect great product and service. Customers should not have to bribe the staff with tips or gifts to get what they originally paid for.
Review their attitude: I went back twice immediately after the incident and on Sunday December 08, 2013 at 7:45 AM. I spoke to a shift leader who refused to provide her name or the name of the manager. She was a short petite brunette very young in age. She wore a smirk when I discussed the black ski gloves. The confirmatory smirk indicates prior knowledge. This information is provided to assist Starbucks corporate in identifying the individuals.
Review Starbucks' trust, integrity and lack of honesty: There are several problems with this transaction all revolving around trust and a lack of integrity. When the cashier allows the customer to walk away obviously leaving their property on the counter salivating at the free stuff this is a blatant lack of trust and integrity. When the so-called shift supervisor/leader refuses to identify herself or provide the contact information for the manager this once again demonstrates a complete lack of trust and integrity. Do I trust Starbucks? Starbucks employees that help themselves to customers property should never be allowed around any cash register.
"Free is good" is bad if it's the customer's property. My complaint is Starbucks' convenient absence of a lost and found for customers property speaks volumes about Starbucks' lack of integrity. I strongly recommend that if you insist on doing business with Starbucks you count your fingers after you shake hands.
By the way the Starbucks hot chocolate turned out to be mostly foam. Starbucks hot chocolate Is seriously overpriced at $1.50. I asked the young man if he enjoyed it and he apparently did not. I am not a coffee or food critic but small children tend to be very honest and sincere so this is a very honest and sincere review. Too young to know how to lie young children often favor the simple truth.
Curiously I posted this on Google reviews no fewer than three times on the morning of Sunday December 08, 2013. Apparently the censors at Google objected to the truth and censored this review. Advertising dollars from www.starbucks.com have a way of influencing the truth. I do not appreciate internet censorship by Google. Censorship is a very serious first amendment violation and interferes with the public's right to know the whole truth.
NEW YORK, NEW YORK -- Well, Very simple - I have noticed that Starbucks is posting a 'bathroom is not working' sign. "Please accept our apologies. We are working to get it fix." Well that is simple - not true. Employees are using the bathrooms all the time. It's happening all over the city. What I don't understand is why they give space and electricity for the client that stay all day using the space for one coffee. When you need to sit everything is occupied. Now no bathrooms no seat. This is crazy. They are getting very unreasonable with their policies. Please give the bathrooms and the space back to their clients.
MIDLAND, TEXAS -- The manager at this store is so rude, and the customers that go here are dumb. They love to get in line from the loop, and if God forbid you enter the parking lot from another entrance, you will get your ** chewed for cutting in line. So of course the logical thing to do is circle the loop, come around on the access road, and stop there so you can block traffic and get rear-ended.
Whatever you do don't attempt to use your brain and use another entrance or circle the parking lot. Unless you love getting chewed out like a small child for "cutting" by an idiot minimum wage employee who can barely speak English. I love Starbucks and go there all the time, but they just lost a loyal customer.
I recently left Starbucks after 3 years of employment. Starbucks used to be a great company to work for, but now with the changes, it's not so great. It's modern day slavery. If you feel like you're waiting for your drink longer, and when you get it, it's not correct, well, you're probably not crazy! That's exactly what's happening.
We are instructed to be more "task-focused" and less "customer-focused". What that means is, the stores are now short-staffed to save money, but with the changes such as the breakfast sandwiches and the new (less tasty) frappuccino recipe (to compete with McDonalds' new frappe) the employees are put in a position to work faster and harder.
We also have follow QASA standards (QASA is the Starbucks 'more elite' version of the health department) and their standards of cleanliness are understandable. However, the time in which we are expected to tend to them are unrealistic. For example, before we hand a drink out, we have to wash the milk pitcher and wipe the steam wands. If we open a carton of soy milk or lemonade, we have to write the QASA standard expiration date immediately. We are instructed to tend to those things before tending to the customers' needs. Back to being short-staffed: yes, there usually is one person on the bar making drinks and we have to rely on the person at the register to properly mark the cup as well - the customer knowing how to properly order their drink. This "simple" process becomes complicated when products and samples are being pushed on the customer who is ordering.
So many times, the person on bar gets the incorrect cup marking due to the initial distractions at the register. That combined with a large volume of drinks with no help (as the people available to help are now making sandwiches) and abusive customers complaining that we're stupid and we made their drink wrong, well, it's no wonder many of you aren't getting the service you deserve. On top of this, we lost our personal days, the health benefits are more expensive and we get less for our money, we get MINIMAL breaks - yet we're on our feet all day AND working much harder.
We don't get commissions or bonuses for sales, we don't get sick days when we call out sick, it's hard to get the shift covered due to company-wide understaffing and partners simply not wanting to work anymore - so many times, we work when we are sick. Upper management is permitted to be condescending to store employees - essentially, we're spoken to like we're retarded first graders. We contribute a great deal to the success of the company, yet we don't get respect and we don't get acknowledgement. So yes, general morale is WAAAAAAAAY down and it does make a difference.
So, the next time you get your drink and it's been made incorrectly, please don't blame the person making your drinks. We're stressed enough from the unrealistic changes being made in the company. Instead, observe what is going on at the register. Are you being distracted to try the "new" exciting, life-changing, drink or pastry? Are you being asked to try Via (for the millionth time) or a Starbucks version of the egg McMuffin? Is the person on bar alone and flooded with drinks? Are there abusive customers, QASA standards being tended to and no help with any of it?
If you notice any of this, complain to the manager then complain to corporate. They need to hear these things. Whatever you do, please don't abuse your barista. Have some respect. Remember that your barista isn't "stuck" at Starbucks because it's the best they can do. They are there because they are in college, or are working towards their career goals and need a job that allows time flexibility and part-time benefits. They're not stupid, and if you piss them off, they have the power to give you sugar-free syrup, decaf shots, expired shots (espresso that sits longer than 19 seconds - they literally taste like poo), breve (that's half and half) when you ask for soy.
They have the power to, in turn, ruin your day by giving you a lousy drink. So open your eyes and see that these employees truly are doing the best they can and are very worn out by Howard Shutlz' (that's the ONE man who owns all Starbucks - they're NOT a franchise) desperate decisions on how to run such a large company with no regulations on how to treat the employees. Use your power of Customer Voice to complain to someone who CAN make things better or stop going to Starbucks all together and make sure you let corporate know why.
You deserve a positive experience and it begins with happy employees. You can help make that change. 1-800-starbuc or 1-800-23-latte You can also fill out the survey when it's given to you. Please be honest about your experience, those surveys are seen by corporate.
I hate customers. There are a lot of things people have experienced at their local Starbucks which disappoints them. Indeed, I too have had that kind of experience at mine in Toronto, but overall that doesn't outweigh the good. People like to complain too much. Sure it's not too much to ask for a drink to be remade, or for something small. However, most customers like to fly off the handle over the most trivial ** and it drives me insane.
For an example, the person complaining about an exchange/refund for the coffee mug. Listen, I've worked retail, and on EVERY SINGLE RECEIPT printed out there is information about what you need to return or exchange that product. YOU HAD BEEN WARNED. But, you'd prefer to waste your time, and theirs to argue against this rule. The rule is there for a reason, and even if to you it's not a good one, it's still there. You neglected to acknowledge that fact, so that's your own damn fault. If you lost the receipt, or failed to ask for one, yes, sorry I do not sympathize. It's your fault.
To the person complaining about a little bit of whip cream falling over the side of a cup, listen, really? It happens. It just does. It's not easy to pour those drinks precisely 100% of the time. So deal with it! If not, kindly ask them to remove it, without being a baby and making such a big fuss over nothing. There is a stack of napkins right next to you. Pick one up, wipe it off, stop being such a baby. To the person who complained about waiting a bit to get a drink before having to rush to work: If I had to rush to work, do you really think I would stop at Starbucks? Absolutely not. I'm smarter than that.
It gets busy, and if I can't be guaranteed to grab my drink in less than a minute, I'm not going. Period. Change your routine, get over it. And even if they were talking to each other, oh well. Maybe you caught them at a bad time. Take your business somewhere else. Or here's a thought! Make your own coffee? Or wait, but then you can't stroll into work with your status-written Starbucks cup in your hand that says you're a sophisticated, mature individual. My mistake.
To the person with the racist barista: your story sounds so unclear. It sounds made up. Maybe you had nothing better to do with your time. If she was actually a racist, I sympathize. But in all honesty, get it in your head that racism exists. You'll never change those racists' perspectives, ever. I'm not saying to be passive, but it's Starbucks. It's not worth it. She'll get hers.
To the people having difficulty working at Starbucks or who hated the experience or the hiring process or whatever. Seriously, you're stupid. Before you apply to a job, you should do some research on it, and all of these negative reviews from Starbucks' employees on the web should have saved you from that experience. Doesn't that just suck? Suck it up, it's your own damn fault.
To the people saying that they will not go to Starbucks ever again, and refuse to spend their hard-earned 3 (give or take 1) dollars on a cup of coffee: Do you really think that your business is all that important? If that's the case, you need to get your head in check, lose the narcissism and get over yourself. You're just ONE customer, and yes there are like-minded individuals who share your view, it's really nothing compared to the billions of people EVERYDAY grabbing something from Starbucks. Listen. I hate to bash on people, really I do.
As a waitress (who does go to Starbucks occasionally) I have learned to appreciate people...until they become customers, until they become so self-obsessed. I'm not saying that you don't deserve "service", but at the end of the day, baristas are there to make your ** coffee not to make your day. And if you don't like that, then I suggest you just boycott. But you wouldn't do that, Dear Customer, would you? Because what then would you complain about? Peace. Oh, and P.S. You can hate me all you want, but what I say is the truth, and the truth isn't nice.
SCARBOROUGH, CALIFORNIA -- I went in to Starbucks at Kennedy Commons, Scarborough, Ontario Saturday afternoon. I am handicapped and use a cane or a walker depending on my pain and mobility level. Saturday I was using my cane. I went into the store, used the washroom first and then went to stand in line. It was busy and I was in line for just over 5 minutes before I got to the cash. I placed my order and after I had paid, tucking my cane visibly under my arm to exchange the cash and change, I noticed that there are two small stickers with a handicapped symbol on the back of each cash register.
I read the signs. They read that assistance is offered to the handicapped with table-side ordering and drink delivery. I hadn't noticed the stickers previously because a tall display of mints and other impulse-buying items was sitting directly in front of both signs!!! I am handicapped and I look for such signs and stickers everywhere I go and I didn't see these signs until after any table-side assistance I needed was pretty much over. But I mentioned it to the cashier. I told her that anyone actually in a wheelchair (although not all handicapped people use wheelchairs) would never see the sign because it was completely blocked from sight.
An appropriate response from your staff would have been to immediately remove the display (and find a better place for it later) in order to start providing the service to handicapped right away, should it be needed. The response I got (from the cashier!) was a stunned "I never noticed the signs before." and then she took the order of the person behind me. I grabbed a card from the small stack of cards beside the cash and limped away from the cash to stand waiting another 5 minutes for my beverage. As I was waiting I asked to speak to the manager. I spoke to **. I told her that the display was blocking the stickers offering help to the handicapped.
Maybe I had been expecting too much from the cashier. The cashier probably didn't have authority to move displays but the manager definitely would. ** told me that the staff were all aware of the policy and would notice any handicapped person coming in and offer help right away so it didn't matter if the sign was visible or not. And then she turned away, picked up a box of something and started to walk away. I was stunned. I had picked up the card for the manager of the store at the cash and just stuck it in my shirt pocket. I pulled it out and checked the name and then asked the barista if ** was really the manager because the name on the card is **.
I had to ask the barista because the so-called manager had already moved out of hearing range. I leaned on the counter, hung the handle of my cane on the edge of the counter so I could show him the card I was holding. He told me that ** was the manager on duty but ** is **'s superior. Noticing that I still hadn't left, ** came back, scowling. I have no idea what she was about to say because she finally noticed my cane hanging on the edge of the counter and her face went blank. AFTER I HAD WAITED 5 MINUTES IN LINE AND ANOTHER 5 TO GET MY BEVERAGE AND ANOTHER 5 TALKING TO HER FACE TO FACE SHE NOTICED I AM HANDICAPPED!!
Want to know what ** did? Because this is the sugar topping on the pumpkin scone right here!! She offered me a sleeve for my coffee. She made a big show of reaching into the bin to grab one for me. She then made a move to grab for my Latte. I moved my drink out of her reach, took the sleeve from her and put it on my own drink and left without another word. I went back Sunday at roughly the same time and had EXACTLY the same result. Almost worse in that two of the same staff were there and the line was twice as long as yesterday. So much for ** noticing handicapped people and going right out to help them.
Every table was in use so unless she was prepared to kick people away from a table, the proposed table service wasn't available. I took a few photos in my 10-minute wait in line. I wasn't hiding the fact that I was taking pictures or the fact that I was using a cane but I was still ignored. The displays are still covering the signs. These signs are barely an inch high by 4 inches long. Even uncovered, they are too small to be much use but a token effort to help handicapped people would be nice. This store doesn't even make that tiny effort.
There are huge windows in front of the store as well as double glass doors. Could they not find a prominent spot to display the sticker on the door? I guess if handicapped people could actually see the sign the store might be required to deliver on what they supposedly offer. I'm including a link to one of the best pieces of fiction I've read in a long time. It's called the Starbucks' Mission Statement. (http://www.starbucks/. ca/en-ca/_About+Starbucks/Mission+Statement.htm) While I could easily go through it line by line with proof positive that each line has no basis in reality, I'll stick to the two issues that the 'partners' at Kennedy Commons apparently have never heard of. Ironically enough titled 'Our Customers' and 'Our Stores'.
"Our Customers - When we are fully engaged, we connect with, laugh with, and uplift the lives of our customers even if just for a few moments. Sure, it starts with the promise of a perfectly made beverage, but our work goes far beyond that. It's really about human connection." Really? When you're fully engaged? First of all, what does that even mean? Not the 'fully engaged' part, though that's an odd term to use, I'm referring to the 'When'. Meaning that the 'partners' working with machines that shoot out steam that can scald flesh in under a second aren't always 'fully engaged'? That's not just dangerous, it's terrifying! My SON has been near those machines!!!
Have other people never read your mission statement? Maybe I'm just unlucky but in the extensive time I've spent in that Starbucks in the last 24 hours I have not had one single of your partners become even partially engaged with me unless I've initiated it for a negative reason that the mythical 'fully engaged' state would have prevented.
I'm trying to keep this within a 2GB size so I'm not even go into the last two lines of that portion of your fairy tale "Sure, it starts with the promise of a perfectly made beverage, but our work goes far beyond that. It's really about human connection"
except to write, as my room pointed out, judging from the number of times his no-foam extra-hot latte has been produced with a half inch of foam on top and gone cold in 10 minutes, even a promise of a perfect beverage is a huge stretch on what you deliver.
And now we'll move on to 'Our Stores'.
When our customers feel this sense of belonging, our stores become a haven, a break from the worries outside, a place where you can meet with friends. It's about enjoyment at the speed of lifeâsometimes slow and savored, sometimes faster. Always full of humanity.
With no handicap parking in front of your store, no ramp near your entrance, no handicap entrance button on your door, and the only allowances you make for the handicapped is in the form of a tiny sticker that you have hidden behind displays of merchandise where even the able-bodied would have difficulty finding it, you have the audacity to suggest that I could feel a sense of belonging or think of your store, where I am very obviously not welcome, as a haven?
'Always full of humanity'? It's always full of something but you only got three letters right and you missed the 's' at the beginning.
You had the chance to fix it. I advised your 'partners' the day before that there was a huge flaw in the position of the stickers. They could have fixed the problem by removing even one level of the items for sale. And then they lied to me. Then Starbucks website lied to me.
NEW YORK, NEW YORK -- I just came from a Starbucks in Grand Central Station in Manhattan (Lexington Avenue between 42nd and 43rd). I tried to order a tall coffee and an apple fritter. The drugged-out idiot at the cash register finally came up with $3.65. It took awhile, he had to figure out which buttons to push. I handed him a 20-dollar bill and said "Wait I don't want any more change in my pocket, I'll give you the change." I reached into my pocket and had ONLY quarters and dimes. I handed him 2 quarter and 2 dimes = $0.70. This baffled him. He couldn't figure out how to enter the overpay and make the change.
He stares at the cash register for several minutes and then pushes some more buttons and I see the cash register flash CHANGE $16.85. Then, scratching his head he starts to try to count out $0.85 from the register. But I say "excuse me, I gave you $0.70 in change so that I wouldn't get more change back and you owe me $17.05." Complete blank comes over his face. He can't fathom it. His lip is hanging down to his chin and his eyes are rolled up. He then thinks a bit and says "no sir, you gave me fifty cents." to which I reply, "why would I have given you "fifty cents" when I was trying to avoid getting change back? I gave you 2 quarters and 2 dimes."
"No sir, one of those quarters was a nickel." And there is no winning, this lunacy goes back and forth and back and forth, and he can't get it. Finally a manager (I think) comes over and asks what the problem is. I now say "I'd like my money back, I'm not buying anything if you are going to rip me off." He says "Fine", looks something up on the cash register, prints something out and then hands me back $20.70!!!!!!!
They still don't get it. AND I DIDN'T GET MY APPLE FRITTER! And it's 11 pm in NYC and everything is now closed and I had to walk to another Starbucks on the other side of the terminal and have a piece of lame dry pumpkin bread for dinner. The manager of this store is a woman named ** and quite frankly if she is any indication of the training of the employees there, she needs to be removed pronto.
I also just called the store to try to speak with ** (after another store told me who the manager was and the phone number) and the other employee who picked up the phone couldn't take the message. She tried, but I could tell that when I gave her the name of my business (I am now back in the office in the Chrysler building) that even asking me to spell it was beyond anything she could comprehend. The world is becoming a sorry place and unfortunately America used to be an awake and aware place, and it's going down the tubulars real fast. WAKE UP PEOPLE!
TUCKER, GEORGIA -- I find it quite interesting that most locations promote smoke-free environments, yet allow associates to smoke pot on their breaks "25 feet away". I've witnessed this numerous occasions at one particular location and it is always the same couple people, behind the wing restaurant or in a cute silver car. You cannot tell me management is unaware unless they are one of them. Regardless a clear example of hypocrisy at its best. I can only assume random drug screening is not part of their employment. Disappointing as well as a turn off for this customer of 13+ years.
GREENSBORO, NORTH CAROLINA -- Every day I order more than $10 worth of food for 10 years from this Starbucks. However, this new employee decides to skip my order for more than 10 minutes. The sad part is 4 white customers received their orders before I have, a foreign black man.