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2004 Toyota Corolla (manual trans.) CE PROBLEM
Posted by Newstlgrad on 02/24/2006
ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI -- I purchased my 2004 Toyota Corolla CE in the Spring of 2003, this was my first new car (it only had 3 miles on it when I took it home). The winter of 2003 the car ran terrific. The following winter (2004) I began to notice an issue after the first minute of start up the car would idle sporadically between approx. 2800 and 3200 RPMs, this seemed to occur only when the temp. was at or below freezing outside. I took my vehicle into Feld Toyota (St. Louis, MO), and they could not get the car to duplicate the issue, or have a code come up on their computer. My husband and I recorded the idle issue on our camcorder and took our footage to the Service Manager at Feld Toyota, the Service Manager stated he knew what the problem was, and ordered a part (the part was installed at the end of the cold season). This winter (2005)the idle problem returned, and now Feld Toyota is telling us that there is nothing wrong with our car. My husband and I took our 2004 Corolla to Seeger Toyota (St. Louis MO) where we purchased the vehicle, and brought along our footage. The Service Manager at Seeger Toyota told us that the idle issue was not normal in his opinion, and that he would help us get to the bottom of it. The following week the same Service Manager at Seeger Toyota that stated he would help us get to the bottom of the idle issue informed us that our car was normal, and that the sporadic idle was nothing to be concerned about. After dealing with this for two winters, and receiving the run around from Toyota my husband lost his temper (nothing violent), but he used some choice words, we were KICKED OUT of Seeger Toyota! I am extremly disappointed in Toyota all around the dealerships that I have dealt with and Toyota Corporate. One last thing... I know the idle issue on my 2004 Corolla is NOT normal, b/c I also own a 2005 Toyota Corolla (same model and trans.), and it does not do this.

     
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A/C Condenser fiasco
Posted by Toyota_sucks on 04/18/2008
ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO -- Well I thought I was purchasing the best of the best but as you will see I will shed some light on the truth:

I bought a Toyota Corolla in March 2005 thinking I was buying the "best of the best" "Primo" or "the whole enchilada." The whole problem started in March 2008 in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Things start heating up in these parts, and I need air conditioning. So one day I turned on my air conditioning on my Corolla to find that ooops it does not work! No problem I spent $1,300 for extended warranty til 50,000 miles "I am good to go I thought." Well that is til I showed up at Karl Malone Toyota in Albuquerque, NM. "Well sir your A/C condenser has rock holes in it, which by the way is not covered under your extended warranty!" Things just got worse.......I called 1-800-331-4331 which apparently customer service approximately 3 times. It sounded promising at the beginning but then just got worse. They said that the mileage on my toyota is just too high and outside the manufacturers warranty (48K). But I have extended warranty that I spent $1,300 on which is somehow different. Well on top of this Toyota issued a Technical Service Bulletin AC002-06 which corrected this problem only within the manufacturer's warranty which is you guessed it 3 year 36K oh no. Well I asked how can Toyota have a known problem and not pay for some of my $590? Apparently a TSB is not a recall which is very confusing!!!! So I am out on an A/C condenser which is $590 on a Toyota and you thought American cars had problems!!!
     
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Posted by Slimjim on 2008-04-18:
I think it comes down to if the condenser can be proved it was damaged by rocks, a warranty, recall, TSB, or anything of the sort isn't a factor. Rock damage would be obvious compared to corrosion or other types of part failure. Did you see the old part before it was replaced?
Posted by Anonymous on 2008-04-18:
Seems unimaginable that enough road debri flew around your engine to cause such damage. Additionally, "extended warranties" are third party companies and not connected with your auto manufacturer.
Posted by toyota_sucks on 2008-04-20:
I still have the part and yeah its hard to believe but it had the damage....glad I kept it. The TSB states Some Customers may experience damage to the A/C condenser if the vehicle is uased regularly on road surfaces where debris may contact the condenser. Basically saying they failed to protect it....
Posted by tiger123 on 2008-07-30:
I, too, have the same problem with my 2005 Corolla condenser. Lakeside Toyota in Metairie, LA will not bend on this. They are adamant that it is not their fault and I should file a comprehensive insurance claim. Cost to repair...$700. Also, Toyota does not make a mesh screen to protect the condenser on the 2005. He suggested that I try to buy a full bra for the front of the car to prevent it from happening again. This is a bad situation b/c I know it's gonna recur.
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Toyota Paint Finished
Posted by V016471 on 08/04/2013
ARECIBO -- My wife own a 2005 Toyota Corolla and noticed that the paint on the roof is coming off. Look that the paint they are using for the Toyotas Cars for Puerto Rico is not good and I see many cars here with the same problem. Now don't tell me is the sun because I used to own a 1990 Corolla Wagon and the paint still the same way as it was new.

I believe the paint quality is not good.Toyota Motor Corporation needs to improve the paint quality or they will have to pay Toyotas customer to repaint the cars.
     
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Posted by ok4now on 2013-08-05:
I haven't experienced this problem with my 2004 Toyota Solara but I do have another issue. The paint chips very easily compared to other cars have owned. The dealer told me that Toyota is now using a more "environmentally friendly" paint which doesn't hold up as well. Also like many other car companies the paint on the bumper does not perfectly match the car. That's because they are painted separately and it's a rubber compound not metal. Once you know to look for this you'll notice many other cars on the road have the same problem.
Posted by FoDaddy19 on 2013-08-05:
Environmental standards changed in the early-mid 90's for automotive paints. The paints all auto manufacturers use now aren't a durable as they used to be colors like grey's, darker blues, and some lighter metallics seem to do worse than other colors.
Posted by Winnie on 2013-08-09:
I have exactly the same issue with my 2005 Toyota Corolla. Paint on roof appears to be bubbling and rusting. Got the run around from dealer who basically used the sun issue, however there is no issue at all on hood or trunk also exposed to the sun. Have had Toyota products in the past but never this problem.
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Corolla exterior paint issue
Posted by Orourkerita on 06/19/2012
CLEVELAND, TENNESSEE -- I have only had my Corolla for a year and 1 month. Two months ago I was rear ended and due to the damage I was advised to not wash the vehicle until repairs could be made. Weeks passed without realizing that the bird poop could cause serious damage, considering that my vehicle is fairly new. I took my vehicle back to Toyota after all my repairs had been made to show them the damage that had been caused. The company that fixed my car assured me that the paint had a manufacturing defect because the bird droppings shouldn't have effected the paint all the way down to the primer in the amount of time in which it was exposed. Maybe if my car had been an older car but it's not. I can't afford to get my car re painted, I'm still making payments on it. I'm so disgusted with the situation. I will never buy another Toyota or deal with the Toyota dealership in Cleveland TN. I just want my car to look like it should because it's still new.

     
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Posted by Comfortably_Numb on 2012-06-19:
were you advised not to wash the entire body of the vehicle or only stay away from the damaged section? would taking a damp cloth and wiping off the poop have been ok or was that a no no, too?
Posted by unhappy999 on 2012-06-19:
What's the reasoning for not washing your car if it has been damaged in an accident? I can see you have to get the insurance company to see the damage first and to take all the photos but after that, I don't see why you can't wash it. Also, there was nothing stopping you from wiping the bird poop off. I think its a matter of opinion if damage should have been caused or not depending on the time-frame it was not washed. I think you would have the same issue no matter what brand of car you had.
Posted by BigAl on 2012-06-19:
One reason for not washing your car while it is damaged is certain damage may cause the vehicle to leak water used in washing to undamaged parts of the car that water would do damage to. Carpeting headliners upholstery and such come to mind. However, bird droppings should have been removed as soon as noticed. Liken this to your doctor telling you to not shower until your bandages are removed. Would you go around with a dirty face?
Posted by trmn8r on 2012-06-19:
Even if they told you not to wash the car, you could have "spot cleaned" the poop. Bird poop is nasty stuff on a car's finish. Since the poop seems to have caused the problem, I think you are out of luck.

BigAl's doctor/bandage/shower analogy is a good one.
Posted by onlooker on 2012-06-20:
If the notice to not wash the car was made in writing to you by the Toyota dealership, or the insurer or the repair place - you can fight the issue with them.
You did exactly as you were told. But it might be very hard to get the person or company that told you do not wash - to admit it or pay for some of the costs resulting from following their instructions.
Because as noted above, there were other options involved in cleaning the mess up. Including checking back with shop/dealer etc.
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Rubber molding coming down with window
Posted by Granny2logan on 09/13/2011
Took the car in to fix the molding that the window goes up into. Got the car back and now the very next day the molding is still coming dow with the window that they said they fixed. The car is just 2 months old and I asked them what they did to fix the molding and they told me it was just off track and that they put it back on. Well this didn't work and now I have to go back again today and wait around again.
     
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Posted by redmx3racer on 2011-09-13:
Wait-Toyota dealers have service departments? News to me. I thought all they had was Oil Change and Recall Completion Center. I'm just kidding around-because anytime there is a Toyota complaint on here, people comment how reliable they are, and that they once had a 95 Camry that had 500K on it and never needed anything but an oil change.
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Anomalous Electronic Key Behavior
Posted by Knolly on 07/12/2011
Toyota Key Instability Problem

Here is another problem that the Toyota company has ignored. A rather strange one.

The Corolla Verso and the Prius models both use the same kind of electronic key which has two separate functions : to start the engine and to open and close the door locks.
My Verso is four years old and almost from the beginning the keys malfunctioned in a strange and undesirable way. I reported this every time I took the car for service but although the dealer’s service was impeccable in every other respect no notice was taken of the anomalous behaviour. They tell me no one else reports the same problem and, smiling, politely imply I am mistaken in my observations.
(Or that they don’t care).

I have exchanged lengthy correspondence with Toyota at local, national (Spain), European and headquarters’ levels - up to and including the president’s office. They are all unfailingly polite but finally unwilling to recognise the problem.

 Which is that every so often the key spontaneously sends a signal to either unlock or lock the doors.. i.e. without the buttons having been pushed or even touched. In many cases it was certain that there could not have been any accidental button pushing while the key was in my pocket. Touching or stroking the plastic body of the key (away from the buttons) may sometimes have been associated with this effect which makes me suspect possibly an electrostatic influence on the internal circuit.

It is not possible to deliberately provoke the anomalous behaviour nor to predict when it will occur and it is very irregular : sometimes happening several times in a day, sometimes with a long interval between events. No apparent correlation with ambient temperature or other conditions.

 There is an obvious security implication : the effect often happens when walking away after parking and locking the doors. Masked by traffic noise a spontaneous reopening may not be noticed, leaving the vehicle open, at least for a period until automatic reclosure might occur (if it occurs).

 The key I am currently using shows the effect very strongly and it is obviously very unstable. The most recent instances of unprovoked signalling have occurred when walking or standing a few metres from the vehicle which had been parked unused for several hours ; the key being loose and unencumbered in my pocket. In one case in fact, having just been removed from my pocket and being held loosely in my open hand, my fingers nowhere near the buttons, the key sent a signal all by itself to open the doors. On this occasion the event was witnessed by my wife (who had previously been a bit sceptical).

 The first key that showed this problem many times eventually gave up the ghost and the door control stopped working altogether. (Engine start is not affected). It was examined at the dealer’s who offered no explanation, merely confirming the key was kaput.

If the failure is part of the general problem and if static is the cause, the internal circuit may have been destroyed by a static charge in a similar fashion to when sensitive computer circuit boards are not handled with precautions. Obviously, in the case of a key no such precautions by the user are relevant.
Another possible cause is a loose internal contact.

 This failure caused two more disagreeable surprises :-

A) Toyota refused to recognise the failure as being covered by the (extended) guarantee.

B) The price for a new key would be more than €170 ! ($246 ; £154 )

This reflects a rather dastardly marketing policy common to many manufacturers. It must cause great irritation to customers while having minimal effect on profits since the sale of spare keys can hardly be big business within the general scheme of things.

 It is even more irritating : as an electronics engineer I’d estimate that the manufacturing cost of the Verso/Prius type of key is hardly more than a few Euros or dollars, whereas here, for less than €120, you can buy a good 22” flat screen computer monitor – which in every way is infinitely more complex.

Hopefully a bit of public attention may lead to some light being shone on this matter.


     
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Posted by Whiteduck on 2011-07-12:
Good review. Sorry to hear about your problems. I have a Honda Accord that is very picky about whether or not it will unlock the doors when I press the button. Sometimes in one click, sometimes after 30 clicks... Sometimes not at all. I appreciate your annoyance. Mine just locks itself if I don't open a door within a minute or so, so not sure this problem would be the same for me.
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Dash light will not shut off
Posted by Mosky on 07/22/2010
The Passenger side seat belt on-off light on dashboard remains ON even when
key is removed with no "load" on passenger seat.
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2010-07-22:
What did Toyota say could be causing this problem and are they able to fix it for you?
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Complaint Due To A Dangerous Malfunction
Posted by SLAN on 02/27/2009
GANSEVOORT, NEW YORK -- I had purchased a 2003 Toyota Corolla from a dealer(not a Toyota dealer). I had it only 6 months. It purred like a kitten. I had a very dangerous experience with my car. The cruise control came on and started to accelerate to a very high velocity speed with a mile distance. The brake would not disengage the cruise control. I could not stop my car and I had to jump out of my car at a speed of 20 miles an hour. I had to ride my brakes to get it to that speed so I could jump out. I got hurt somewhat and got banged up and bruised. I was terrified while having to maneuver my car. If I had children in the car we all would have been dead. After I jumped out the car it raced to a speed of about 90 miles per hour into a field. It took a few days now to realize what had happened to me and my car. My cruise control and the mechanism that controls the disengagement of the cruise control, malfunctioned. This is a DANGEROUS malfunction. It is a 2003 and it is not that old of a vehicle.

This is a serious matter!!!!!! I pray that this does not happen to anyone else. I lost faith in the Toyota corporation!!!!!!! I would like a response back from someone in management of the Toyota Corporation ASAP!!!!

     
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Toyota, Not So Much!
Posted by Arussell on 02/24/2009
No doubt about it, Toyota has lost its mojo. It used to be the best car company but now they can barely compete quality-wise with Chrysler. My last Toyota, a 2005 Corolla, had more problems than any American vehicle I have ever owned. I hear the same form people in the industry, they all say the same, "Toyota isn't what it used to be".
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-24:
Will you please provide specifics as to the lack of quality you experienced with Toyota and what benefits you see with the Chrysler? How long have you owned the Chrysler? I am sure a lot of us would like to buy American made products, but have been burned by the American automakers in the past. I like my Toyota, but if one of the american automakers would make a quality product more of us might consider purchasing one.
Posted by arussell on 2009-02-25:
John, What i meant to say was that i had a 2 year old Dodge 3/4 ton Diesel and it was the worst vehicle imaginable. I was comparing all the problems of my 2005 Corolla with my Dodge Truck. The best insights i believe you can get are from the independent repair shop people. If they say we get a lot of Dodges or newer Toyotas then that means something. So far for me, Nissan and Honda seem to be the best for cars and if you need a heavy duty truck, anything but a Dodge. Hope that helps.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-25:
Got it! Thanks for the info.
Posted by old fart on 2009-02-25:
wow John... you're up early! it's only quarter to 7 where you are...
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-25:
John is always up early. It's a very busy task being John, but he does it well.

I agree with his sentiments regarding Chrysler. It's abusrd to even compare the two companies. My workmate's PT Cruiser died yesterday. He has 16 payments left on it. My Tacoma pickup had 238,000 miles on it and was running like a clock when I traded it in.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-25:
Slim loves his old Dodge truck, but never mention anything about the air conditioner.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-25:
Why not super?
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-02-25:
Because he would rather talk about his collection of ladders.
Posted by ttooley on 2009-04-04:
Where is the American competition of years past? The American Pride did it all die when greed became the only desire of the American corporations?
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LF Strut leaking 43,500 miles
Posted by Doston1899 on 11/23/2007
ELMIRA, NEW YORK -- Purchased 2005 Toytoa Corolla new. Mechanic advised LF Strut was leaking. Took car to Toyota dealer who wanted to replace LF strut for $305 plus tax and wanted $75.00 to align front end. Dealer advised he had never replaced strut on 2005 Corolla and offered nothing towards the repairs after talking to regional office. I complainted to Toyota in Torrance, California but said the dealer must offer any compensation--if any. I will have both struts via non-dealer mechanic for about $400.00. This is my 1st Toyota and was purchased due to dependable reputation.

I have never replaced a strut on the 15-20 cars I have purchased in my lifetime--mostly new. Lf tire showed cupping wear.

     
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Posted by WhineX on 2007-11-23:
12,000-13,000 miles a year is considered average annual mileage, so your vehicle is above average in miles. And last time I checked, OEM struts weren't intended to last the life of the car. Due to the pounding they take, they're a maintenance item and are intended to be replaced at some point. You made a smart move not having the job done at the dealer, but Toyota doesn't owe anyone for routine maintenance.
Posted by doston1899 on 2007-11-24:
Toyota had a reputation as dependable transportation which should mean their vital parts that we depend on for a safe ride should last a bit longer than 2 years--especially when Toyota charges so much for their replacement parts. My mechanics would always advise me when they saw leaky struts or when brakes needed replacement for all of my cars. I just find it odd that my dependable mechanic had never before seen leaking struts on my cars prior to my purchase of the new Toyota.
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