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New GE 40gal water heater bad/GE customer service HORRIBLE!
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Friday (10/30/2009) we woke up to no hot water. Our current water heater had gone the trip. No big deal - we've replaced a water heater before. So, we went out to Home Depot and picked up a new one to replace the old one. It was a GE 40gal with a 6-year warranty. Brought it home, installed it (we've done this a few other times throughout the years); filled it, and heated a tank of water. Turned on the hot water faucets to get the air out of the lines and get the water running again, and the water ran brown. Assumed that with the change, had to run the water out (flush the pipes). No big deal.

We ran the full 40 gallons of hot water out and the water was STILL running brown. Getting concerned. Kept the hot water faucets open for the next hour to try to clear the water. No success. Called my relatives who are/have been plumbers and told them what was going on. They immediately said it sounded like a bad liner. All this time, the cold water is running clear.

Called Home Depot told them of the issue (it's now the evening of 10/30/09) and were told to bring the water heater back in the morning. Saturday 10/31/2009, 7:00am, disconnected, drained (saving a bottle of the water so we could show them what was happening), and hauled the water heater back to HD. Started talking to the service desk and the department associate that we had spoken to the evening before. After reiterating the situation, a couple more HD employees become involved in the conversation.

We are then informed that we need to contact GE directly ourselves, because it is a warranty issue and HD needs a return authorization number directly from GE to complete the exchange. We got a bit upset because all we wanted to do was exchange the darn thing for a different one.

Home Depot is required to get a return authorization directly from GE so they can be reimbursed for the return otherwise they get stuck. Okay, we really don't want to stick anyone with the return, including ourselves because it is obviously a faulty product. HD called GE for us so we could do it all there. Great! No big deal, right! Enter GE "customer service" and the worst customer service experience we have ever had in our lives!

After Home Depot got the GE representative on the phone for us, we explained the simple situation and that we simply wanted to exchange for one that wasn't broken as this one obviously was. Once the details had once again been reiterated, we were informed by the GE representative that there was no way that it could be the water heater. It had to be our water. We explained that we were on city water and that we had never experienced anything like this before, including the night before prior to the old water heater going out and that the new water heater that we had installed was the ONLY point of variance in the entire situation - it had to be the water heater.

We argued our point, to no avail, for 10 minutes ourselves over the Home Depot phone lines and then the GE representative said that if it is a warranty issue, then it is between us and Home Depot. With that comment from the GE rep, the HD service desk associate got back on the line with them and asked for an authorization number because it did look like a faulty issue and should be warranty. The argument started again with the GE representative and the HD service desk associate, with the GE representative saying it was our water and that they would need to send one of their water tester "specialists" to our house to verify the issue.

With this idiotic development, the HD gal put the HD store manager on the phone and he resumed the argument. In the meantime, the Rainsoft independent contractor walks in to HD and is updated on the situation. He pulls out his water testing equipment and verifies that through his experience and years of working in the area along with the results of the water that came directly from the water heater, that it was definitely NOT normal and that there was way that it was our water if we are on city water.

So, HE got on the phone with the GE representative and was also told by the GE representative that GE would need to send people out to test our water. The Rainsoft rep, after another 15 minute argument by the GE rep, told the GE representative that he already had tested the water, and this is what he does for a living. He gave the GE representative the results and told him the results were conclusive. After all of this, and the GE representative couldn't argue anything further, he finally, hesitantly authorized the exchange.

All in all, it took a total of 4 Home Depot employees, one independent contractor of Rainsoft products, and our own full history and detailed experiences and an hour and 20 minutes to get a GE "customer service" representative to EXCHANGE their faulty $354.00 water heater! The unfortunate part is that we had no choice but to go with another GE water heater! Our compliments go out to Home Depot for their employees going to bat for us. If they hadn't, we would have simply been stuck.

As for GE, it is very safe to say that if we EVER need another appliance (extremely likely), GE will NEVER be one of the brands we consider! It's sad that GE believes it to be acceptable business practice to train "customer service" representatives to argue until the customer gives up, all for the sake of a dollar. It's ethically disappointing.

Deserted in the Desert
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Deserted in the desert. I have enjoyed a wonderful relationship with Chevron for over 27 years and from time to time have used their stations exclusively. I have enjoyed an ever escalating credit increase from them and have never come close to using my credit limit. I have mostly paid the balance in full each month. Sometimes I paid over a few months if I had financed a road trip on the card.

My account has been current and clean for every one of the 27+ years, using the card only once every three months for my scheduled service and a detailed cleaning of my car. I confirmed my high open to buy limit online and decided to finance the gas on my upcoming road trip with Chevron.

I decided upon a nice road trip vacation last fall that would take three weeks to cover all of the Southwestern states from Texas to California. I used my Chevron card to service the car and get it road worthy. I made it all the way to the mid Arizona desert before I needed to fill up for the third time.

In the past, Chevron would lock my card from use for security reasons because of being used more than three times in one day. When the pump refused to accept my card, I assumed that, once again, I locked out my account by not giving Chevron the heads up that I was on a road trip. I was very familiar with this security process after using their card for over 20 years.

I went into the station to have the clerk run the card and again, it was declined. I asked to use the phone so that I could call Chevron and unlock the card. Normally after a few questions, they would agree that the card was not stolen and release the card for me to continue using on my trip. This was not the case this time. The associate on the other end of the phone advised me that I had reached my limit and in fact was over my limit by $29.00. I was advised that I could no longer use my card until the limit was paid down.

This was more of a shock than anything that I could have taken at that time. I was stuck in the desert with no gas in my tank, at a small road side gas pump with no credit on my Chevron card. I was not in a town or settlement. I was in the desert, pure deserted desert.

OK, I have money to take along on this trip but the gas budget was on the Chevron card. Using my debit card everyday for $50.00 towards gas was not within the plan. I was on a three week road trip and this was only the second day!

I got Chevron on the phone to find that it was not Chevron at all, but GE Moneybank to my shock. I know that GEMB finances private labels (even for my company) but I actually never read the fine print to realize that GEMB financed my Chevron account. Nevertheless, the reason for my credit limit being reached was that the company reduced limits "across the board" and that it was nothing personal towards me. This was more than I could take. It was over 100 degrees outside, I was sweating bullets, I had no patience with hearing that "There is nothing we can do about it"€.

I asked many questions like: "€˜When was I going to find out about the credit decrease?" She said that they mailed a letter. "When was it mailed?"€™ Friday, the day I left on the trip. Remember, I checked my balance online on Friday morning.

Needless to say, the conversation ended with no favorable resolution for me. The supervisor actually said "I don'€™t know what you want me to say."€ I want you to reinstate my credit limit so I can get back home! That's what I want you to say! Nope. The rest of the vacation was on debit. At least I know that it is all paid for.

I got home three weeks later to find three notices in my mail. One stated that my Chevron credit limit was being decreased by 75% ($1500.00). One said that one Wal-Mart card was being decreased by a couple of hundred dollars and the third was an increase in the credit limit on my second Wal-Mart card. Yep, they gave me a second Wal-Mart card instead of increasing the limit on the first card several months back. What an idiotic thing to do.

Well, I am paying off what few GEMB accounts that I have and boycotting the companies who use them. Even my loyal friend Chevron, who gave me a gas card over 27 years ago, has lost my patronage. The garage that took Chevron for all those years of scheduled services no longer accepts Chevron. Good for them. I like Chevron. I would go back to Chevron if they would drop GEMB.

I mentioned above that my company even offers financing through GEMB. I do not promote it and I encourage anyone who applies for credit anywhere to know who they are getting financing through. When you apply, or receive, a store's private label credit card, it could be GEMB and the worst financial experience of your life.

Look at the interest rates. Reminds me of the Gangster movies of the 30'€™s when the gangsters offered 20% credit rates and broke your legs if you did not pay on time. Nowadays, GEMB and any other credit facility have a license to break your legs. But then again DOES IT REALLY MATTER!

General Electric used to be synonymous with a quality product
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I am the current owner of four GE appliances in my home. I have your water heater, refrigerator and two dishwashers. I am old enough to remember the time when the name General Electric was synonymous with a quality product. Can you explain to me what has happened? I bought first from Home Depot an electric water heater with a generous warranty. It was precisely because of the warranty that I did buy this water heater. After approximately one year it gave out (our old one lasted 20 years). I called and was assured that this was under warranty.

Someone came out to look at it and said we need to replace it. All we needed to do was bring in the old one and get a new one. My husband is in his mid 70s. There was no way we could strap it to our car and haul it in. We got a new water heater and had to pay the service person $250.00 for installation and to remove the old one, which was just dollars short of what we paid for it in the first place. So obviously the "warranty" is only valuable if you happen to be a strong, strapping plumber.

We then needed a new refrigerator. Our old one lasted about 18 years. I was away and my husband went back to Home Depot and bought one for approximately $1,000.00. I never liked it. It never seemed to run right, however after only 3 1/2 years, I found that milk I had bought the day before had curdled and my butter was soft. The freezer section had thawed out food in it. I immediately called GE, certain that it probably was the compressor and happily the compressor had a warranty for five years.

To your credit, a service man came the next day, replaced a computer board that controlled the self defrost mechanism and told us not to plug it back in for 24 hours. IT WAS NOT THE COMPRESSOR. That 20-minute visit and repair cost us almost $300.00. When I complained that this was one-third the price we paid for it, he suggested I buy a service contract for about that same amount. My husband and I are retired. WE cannot afford to pay $1000.00 for a refrigerator and then another $600.00 to keep it running.

That weekend, after shopping for the week, we went away for four days certain that the refrigerator was working well. When we got back, about $100.00 worth of groceries was rotting away in my hot refrigerator. I called Service immediately. Apparently the first person did not notice that the "sensor" was the real problem and this new man replaced that. This morning I woke up to a freezer with ice in it despite the new self-defrosting computer chip. Probably I can keep calling until someone admits it probably is the compressor and replace it rather than trying to get out of the warranty.

I find these practices intolerable. These expensive items should last for over 3 years and if they aren't made to last, then the consumer should be told so we can find a product that is decently made. My story is not over. Eight months ago I bought two new dishwashers (one had lasted 30 years, the other just under 18). One dishwasher became increasingly difficult to close the door on until I couldn't get it to run at all. The other one had too much water left in the tub at the end of each cycle. Fortunately, I was still under Warranty and to your credit again, someone came right out.

He readjusted some things claiming they weren't put in right, blaming it on the installers. I did not have to pay, but he did inform me that if they weren't under warranty, I would have paid $120.00 EACH machine just for him to do about 5 minutes worth of readjusting. Needless to say, I will never buy another GE product. Maybe this is not a big loss to your company, but I am not going to leave it there. I think we consumers are lemmings.

I intend to send a copy of this letter to my congressmen, to ARRP and maybe start a class action suit against the unfair hidden costs of owning an appliance from GE such as Warranties that cover nothing, outrageous service contract prices and most of all the inferior nature of all products. I think I should be paid for the extra monies I have had to put out because I chose to believe you made a good product, not to mention the loss of my groceries and my time and inconvenience. I consider your advertising fraudulent. You make a substandard product and don't stand behind it.

I just read where your CEO makes 20 million a year in bonuses. He does not deserve it!!! The best thing I can say about your company is that your service department responds rapidly, but then why not, they are making a bundle out of every product you sale.

Consumer Relations / Out of Warranty Appliance
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VIRGINIA -- I am a former employee of GE Consumer Relations and I would just like to give a little insight of what the representatives have to go through on every single call, and I do mean every call. You all call in extremely upset, sometimes abusive, because the representative can't give you what you demand. And yes, we do take it personally because some of you call us names, and act as if we made the appliance personally. GE has set forth guidelines that must be followed or that representative will be walked out the door.

I agree that a product should last more than a year, but the one year warranty is for repair only and not a replacement, after it expires it is the consumer's responsibility for repair. GE will not replace an in warranty unit unless a technician deems it non repairable and it still has to go through a review board for replacement. In some cases if the unit is out of the one year warranty and it is experiencing a safety issue then a service call can be set up and at the discretion of the service rep.

The service call can be waived, in other words, the tech can come to your home, diagnose the problem, let you know what the labor is, and then you can decide if you want to go forth with the repair. However, because the consumer is being very abusive and belligerent, the offer is not even discussed. We have been called the N word, trailer trash, the word that rhymes with itch, cursed out, "we hate your phone system," "I am going to get my attorney", "does any body speak English," "I want a tech to my house today," blah, blah, blah, you name it we have heard it.

Very seldom do calls come in from folks who are not yelling and screaming. It is a call center for goodness sakes, which means low pay and extremely stressful listening to folks screaming at you and making demands that can't be met. Do you all realize how stressful this can be. It is a nightmare.

When you call into consumer relations, regarding your of warranty appliance, your complaint is documented and then service is set up if you request. Otherwise there is nothing else that consumer relations can do, except assist with parts and waiving the home call charge, under no circumstances can labor be removed, not even by the supervisor on an out of warranty appliance. The rep does not have labor info, only the tech has that information.

So please, the next time you call GE regarding your out of warranty appliance, and due to the guidelines set in place, your demands can't be met, the next form of escalation is writing a letter to GE headquarters in Louisville, KY, the rep has the address.

From my experience the most hateful people that call in are the ones having trouble with their microwave and dishwashers. It is really sad how angry these people get because they can't "warm their soup" or wash dishes by hand. People call in who have a no cool fridge, or can't cook on their stove, and although still hateful, just not as hateful as the ones with the microwave and dishwasher problems.

GE Washing Machine fell apart after 3 weeks!
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ALABAMA -- On Dec. 5th, we purchased our washing machine, Model #WHDSR316G1WW. On Sunday, Dec. 23rd, it literally fell apart. When checking on a load we were washing, my husband found that the front of the machine was popped off, the metal frame around the tub on the top of the inside was popped out and bent down, which caused the tub to drop down, in turn breaking the plastic lining around the tub, and popping the back panel with the knobs up.

Immediately, I contacted GE, and spoke with "John", who was very nice, and advised that he entered a repair order, and that it normally takes 24-48 hours for an answer, but someone would definitely call me the next day, since the day after was Christmas. I made sure to give him our correct address, my home phone number, and my cellular phone number in case we were not at home when they called.

On Dec. 26th I still had heard nothing, so I called again. I first talked with a service tech, who said I needed to speak with Consumer Services and transferred me. After waiting for 45 minutes, I had to hang up, as I was at work. About an hour later, I called again, this time directly to Consumer Services. I spoke with "Tonya", who was very nice. She said that they did not have any service techs in our area, and they would have to submit a request to buy back our machine but it would take 24-48 hours for an answer.

Getting very upset at this point, I told her that time frame was unacceptable. I had already been without my machine for 4 days, I have a family of 4, and we live in a very rural area with no laundromats... I needed my machine. Within 30 minutes, Tonya called me back (**to date, she is the ONLY person at GE who has called me) she said that she escalated the issue to a supervisor, and someone at their corporate office.

The buy back had been approved, however, they did not have anyone near our area that could come and get the machine and bring us a check. So... now they tell me that I will have to mail to a PO box the cord and tag from the machine, wait for them to process the request, and then wait for the check to be mailed to me. Now, I am irate; this means that at a minimum I would have to wait at least 2 weeks, and that is ONLY IF they process it right away. For 2 more days, I constantly called, speaking with Consumer Services, supervisors, etc. At one point I was even asked if maybe my load of clothes that were washing got off balanced...

IS A WASHING MACHINE SUPPOSED TO FALL APART JUST BECAUSE A LOAD GETS OFF BALANCE??? Is it normal for a washing machine to break after 3 weeks of use??? I was told flat out by everyone I have spoken with that they have given me a resolution to the problem, and to them it is a reasonable time frame. I have constantly asked is there an address I can overnight the cord/tag to in order to speed up the process, is there a location I can take the machine to??? All I get is "Sorry."

Apparently it makes no difference that I have a family of 4 that includes 2 small children, and I can't wash clothes for them. Finally, Dec. 28th I contacted Home Depot. I was first told again that their company policy is once it leaves the store if there is a problem with a major appliance, you must contact the manufacturer.

The lady I spoke with was very helpful, even contacting GE to try to get a better resolution. Finally, she called the store I purchased the machine from. Within 1 hour, I received a call from the manager of the store, who himself had tried to talk with GE, and even looked for a GE tech around here to no avail. At this point he has offered to allow us to exchange the machine for a non-GE product. My husband and I both agree that after this experience, we will never again purchase a GE product.

GE Washer Nightmare
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CALIFORNIA -- My wife and I had our washing machine of many years breakdown and went to Sears outlet looking for a new one. We purchased a GE Front loader and had it delivered. We loaded it and found it would not spin. We called for service and after the repair person showed up the following Monday he told us it was not worth messing with and to return it. We went back to Sears and after arguing with them that we do not want more service calls and need a washer we were sold another washing machine that was a top loader and more expensive. We had it delivered and the other picked up.

Immediately when my wife tried to wash her first load the machine went into error mode and stopped. Again we called and were told we would need to go through the service calls. I went back to the store and finally got the supervisor to agree to pick up the washer and refund my money in full. Almost a month had gone by for the service call, deliveries, pick ups and phone calls. After many frustrating days and time spent staying home for deliveries, pick ups and service calls my wife and I headed out to Home Depot which were having a sale on washers. Here begins my GE nightmare.

My wife and I were directed to a front loader GE WHDVH626FWW by the sales person. She stated the machine was new but had been on display. After it was all said and done we would save a little over $200. Yes, again I was drawn to the discounted washer.

This time I called my brother to save about $60 in delivery charges and we took the heavy washer home. We at this point though there was no way possible we could get another broken washer. We were wrong. The washer would not fill with water. I tried to stay calm and immediately called for a GE service repair thinking it may be something minor. We were told by GE to be available on Monday between 9 and 5pm so I stayed home thinking it will just be this one time and probably a quick fix.

The service person came out and stated that he wasn't sure what was wrong but he was going to order a control board and inverter which should fix the problem. He also decided to replace the pressure switch while he was there just in case. He told me that it would take another week to get the part in or he would have fixed it sooner. Two days later the part arrives at the house.

I contacted the Service operator and was told she would update my information showing the part is on site and put me in for first available service. I told her of my past issues and that I had been waiting over a month to do my wash with a wife and three kids. She assured me they would see the call and respond sooner. I waited a day and called to check on my automated call status which still showed the original time. I waited another day and called the service operator but she stated I would have to wait for the first available call.

Monday came which was the date for the service call. I called in to verify my appointment again just in case. I began waiting and waiting but no repair person. I called the service operator and she advised me she would call the service department while I waited. She came back on the line and stated that they were not answering their phone and she could see that they had not responded to other service calls besides mine. She then casually advised me that I would have to make another service call.

I immediately advised her of all the time I had taken from work already for service calls and that they had cost me money and I wasn't free to stay at home everyday waiting for their service people. She again stated in an emotionless voice that I had to make another service call. I did.

The next day a service person called my phone while I was at work and told me he could come over and repair my washer. I told him the part had been delivered last Wednesday and he stated they weren't busy and why didn't someone tell them the part was in. I decided to forget he said that and immediately went home to meet him thinking this has got to be it

He replaced the control board and inverter. Again, nothing worked. He worked on the washer for over 2 hrs but again could not get it to work. He advised me that I should take it back and ask customer relations for a replacement. He gave me the number after printing a service ticket. He told me that he ordered a new motor on the ticket just in case but that I could just give it to the service person when he came to deliver the washer if I didn't need it.

At this point I'm thinking, OK just call customer relations now and they can order a new washer and what else could go wrong. The next day I call customer relations and they tell me the service person is the one who has to call them and order a replacement. She also states he has ordered a new motor and a new repair date and I will have to wait until he comes out. The repair date is 9 days away. She assures me that once he comes out he can call them and they will replace the washer for me. I argue until I turn blue and ask for different people I can call to make a complaint. I was told to go online and make a complaint but I have to wait.

While I'm waiting I go online and write out this long story. I submit and later that day receive a response. It's automated and states that I should call customer relations, who happen to be the ones who told me to call them. The email also states this is an automated reply please do not respond back.

Again the service date comes and I'm home from work. The service person comes in and tells me he must first install the motor before he does anything else. He puts the motor in and nothing works. He calls his service department and they tell him he must replace the door lock and it will be fixed. He does it and nothing. He calls them back for further instruction and they do not answer. He advised me that he must make another service call because he cannot do anything unless they tell him what to do next. I again advise him customer relations told me he would be able to call them for a replacement if this didn't work.

He advises me after we begin having a more casual conversation that GE never wants to give a replacement and they will try and replace part after part until I give up calling. He told me that he once spent over $2000 in service calls for a $49 microwave they wouldn't replace. He then told me what do you want me to do because he was supposed to start re-ordering the same parts again which was normal practice. I had him thoroughly document after some prodding all that was done and his suggestion that it should be replaced. He said he would then call me tomorrow with what their response is.

So this is where I stand. Although I still know I can call my brother back over load up the washer and hope Home Depot doesn't start screwing me around that isn't what is bothering me. What's bothering me is the fact a company like GE who puts decals on their service trucks stating call 1800 GE we care. We care about what!!!! They are a company who appears not to concern themselves with building reliable products or providing at the very least an honest service which leads to a quick resolution for their customers. I will never again purchase a GE product.

GE Refrigerator and GE Washing Machine
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GOSHEN, CONNECTICUT -- DO NOT PURCHASE GE appliances. They are nothing but aggravation. I purchased all new GE appliances when we built our house 5 years ago. The refrigerator was broken and 8 visits later from the service tech finally resolved the issue after I had researched the issue myself and found the part that needed to be replaced. The refrigerator froze all of the food in the refrigerator portion of the refrigerator several times. This left me with an empty refrigerator more than once. Several parts later the refrigerator is now operating.

The refrigerator was finally working. The washing machine then ceased working. 3 trips from the approved GE service technician and a flooded laundry room (3 times) and a month and a half later the washing machine under a 10 year warranty was finally replaced.

When the washing machine was replaced it was replaced with another washing machine of comparable value with a 1 yr. warranty. When I asked how this could be that I purchased a washing machine that had a 10 year warranty and now I am only receiving one with a 1 year warranty, I was told that there was nothing that could be done and that is how they operate now. I purchased the washer because it had a 10 year warranty. GE must have been losing money because their products do not last longer than a year.

Six months later the refrigerator ice maker has ceased working and the replacement washing machine is not working at all. As a matter of fact it runs and runs and runs and doesn't do anything. It won't fill with water and the timer is stuck on 8 mins.

Several hours of frustration and I still have no resolution. I spoke with a manager, Mrs. **, today after sitting on hold for 30 minutes, who was of no assistance whatsoever. She basically pulled the phone away from her ear and was not listening to me at all. At one point I even stopped talking and said “HELLO!”. She informed me that I am not being patient enough and allowing them enough time to work on the issue.

I called Friday morning at 9:45 AM received a call back from the authorized service technician who says "Oh it's you again!" in a disgusted tone. As if this is my fault that the washer is broken. He says "I'll call GE" and hangs up the phone. He did not say I will call GE and get back to you. I never heard from him all day Friday or all weekend or all day Monday.

At 4:50 PM I received a survey call in regards to the call I had placed. What kind of stupidity is this? 5 PM EST I called GE back to find out what was going on, since I haven't heard anything since Friday morning at 10:20 AM. After speaking to one representative and explaining the situation he says "Please hold". Ten minutes went by and another representative finally picks up and says they have no record of me ever calling and want all of my information all over again. "ARE YOU KIDDING ME!"

After stating I had the authorization number I was told that they did have a record of it and that they needed to contact the authorized service technician. They got an answering machine and left him a message. "BIG DEAL!". I was told that there was nothing that could be done because the technician has accepted the authorization code and that I would have to wait for him to contact me back.

Each time you call the GE number you are asked for your phone number and to confirm your name and address. I have confirmed my information with GE 8 times in the last two days. This couldn't be any more annoying. I just want the washing machine fixed! At this point I don't even want to think about dealing with the refrigerator. I do not have the time to sit around or be able to take off from work to wait for a service technician that gives you a window of 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM and then says "I have to order a part and I'll be back in two weeks when the part comes in."

The kicker of it all is that GE has their own service representatives but they do not service my zip code but they do service 2 minutes down the road from me. Instead they use a service technician that is forty minutes away and he doesn't even want to service the machine. I will never purchase another GE appliance and I will make damn sure that everyone I am acquainted with knows that their products are terrible and that their customer service is beyond pathetic.

Customer Service (Or Lack Thereof)
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Rating: 1/51

UNKNOWN -- 4/21/13: Got declined at a vending machine to buy a $1.50 soda. Had $2000 of credit limit available to purchase. 4/22/13: Spent 1 hour and 32 minutes on telephone trying to speak to a credit card representative at GE/Paypal Extras MasterCard regarding issue. 1:45pm - Called "customer service" number on the back of my card, got stuck in endless IVR loop with no ability to opt out to a customer service live person.

1:55pm - Called "customer service" number on Paypal site along with an assigned 6-digit randomly generated code issued on website to use for better/faster routing of my call. Once again got stuck in endless loop with no ability to opt out to a customer service live person.

2:05pm - Called PayPal'™s main number after a third venture through an automated system, finally was able to get to a live person. They looked up my account and said "they could only help me with my PayPal account, not my PayPal MasterCard. They nicely (or as I thought) transferred me to the "correct department".

2:15pm - Transferred to 2nd person. Not sure whom I got transferred to but they immediately said I was in the wrong place and transferred me to the "correct department" (or so I thought". 2:20pm - Transferred to 3rd person ("**"). ** looked up my credit card number twice only to tell me, guess what, I'm in the wrong department. I am now in the "Prepaid MasterCard" department for Paypal. She further tells me that "she cannot help me", that I should "hang up, call back and start from the beginning" as I called the wrong number.

I informed her that I didn't call the "wrong number" but was in fact transferred by another Paypal employee, she restated that "she cannot help me, that I should hang up and call back"??? After a multitude of going back and forth, I of course asked for a supervisor only to be told that "there isn't a supervisor". I said okay a manager then, she said "there is no manager"???

I then tried another approach and asked "who do you report to", she replied "nobody". I challenged that and her final response was "I report to the company". I repeated that back to her to be clear I heard correctly and said "you don't have a supervisor or a manager and only report to the company?". She said that is correct and reminded me that "she cannot help me". I then asked to be transferred to any person in a management position and she replied "they cannot help you"??? Astounded I said okay let me hear them tell me that. (of course they wouldn't tell me that right?...let's see).

2:47pm - Transferred to 4th person (**). A female who when asked identified herself as a manager. At this point to be safe I asked her for her name and ID number before proceeding to have to explain my customer service issue and the path I went to get to her. I also requested the ID number of the previous employee (**) who was terribly rude, short and inconsiderate. She tells me "I doesn't know, you should have asked her that before she transferred you to me"...HUH?

I asked "Aren't you her supervisor or manager?" She said "No". I asked "Are you a member of management?" She said "Yes, I am a Manager." I'm thinking great, I'm going to be helped finally, I've reached someone in management and they'll make sure I'm taking care of. Wrong. ** now begins to tell me that she "cannot help me". Also said that I should hang up and call another number to try again"? Huh? This is a manager?

I ask if she can directly transfer me to the "correct person"...reply is "No". I ask if she can directly help me...reply is "No". I ask if she thinks it's okay to treat a customer like this, especially after what the customer has clearly been through with 3 other agents? She said "well you're calling the wrong department"...seriously didn't she listen to any of my story about how I got to her? Now for the height of the call...The "MANAGER" - ** - ** apparently decided she had enough of me (the customer asking for help) and just hung up on me, disconnected the call.

Wow! After the long career in customer service if I were monitoring these calls on the phone system for quality assurance or training purposes this call would serve me several purposes: The ability to protect my customers from poor customer service from some obviously uncaring customer service employee and manager. The need to walk down the hall to Human Resources to initiate an immediate termination of these employees and removal from the call center floor. A great training for new employees and retraining of existing employees on how never to ever handle a customer.

Still unsure as to how to resolve my credit card issue. After I take some blood pressure medication, go for a long walk and ask God for forgiveness for my thoughts I might try back in a week or two. Until then, what was my "Primary Card" is now removed from my wallet and placed in a desk drawer at home for some future consideration. The card was a fine card, the associated customer service or lack thereof if ever needed is the determining factor for the discontinued use of this card, inability to recommend GE or Paypal and need to find assistance in resolving my issues.

Company Response 04/23/2013:

**To expedite a response, please provide Reference code DM 042313_m3c_rockysacco**

I'm sorry you have experienced issues with your GE Capital Retail Bank account. We would like to try and resolve your concerns. Please email me at with your name and phone number. A member of our consumer advocacy team will call you to assist.

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GE Capital

GE faulty product quality, warranty service, lack of customer service
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Please note: Everything in this post is in regards to GE Canada, and the Canadian market. This is also a very brief summary of 10 pages of documents in my dispute with GE, and GE's authorized service contractors. April 1, 2007 purchased from Home Depot 3 Maytag appliances, (refrigerator, range and dishwasher) for delivery April 5, 2007. We donated our old appliances to Salvation Army and arranged for pickup on April 4, 2007. On evening of April 4, heard from Home Depot that Maytag had computer problems and the products could not be delivered until late the next week.

This was not satisfactory so Home Depot offered us comparable products from their in store inventory. Home Depot substituted the following GE products, side by side refrigerator (model GSS25XGPABB), free standing glass cooktop range (JCPB83HK2BB) and a dishwasher (GHD6310L15BB).

3 years, 6 months, and 17 days the problems started. Refrigerator started freezing produce, milk and other items, lowered cooling setting to lowest level and there wasn't any change. Checked our owner's manual and warranty to see if the repair was covered by GE (sealed system was covered for 5 years). Called Camco (GE Canada's service department) to get a clear explanation of what this meant. Informed the service tech would have to diagnosis the problem and he would determine if was cover by warranty.

November 3 - Direct Energy Tech (Camco authorized GE service) determined the main control board was defective, and was not covered by warranty - cost $374.62. He also advised me he put in a revised Main Control Module. He stated he used to carry 12 of the original boards in his truck at all times, but the new board was better and he only carried 6 currently.

November 7, our glass cooktop exploded for no apparent reason, (sent glass slivers up to 15 feet and shards of glass 4 feet. This is an extremely hazardous product and GE is aware of the problem, but instead it is the consumer's fault. Something must have fallen on the glass top and damaged it, or some other lame reason. November 10 - Refrigerator freezing produce and other products again, purchased refrigerator thermometer and the temperature was 22 degrees F (-5 degrees C). Call for service tech, unavailable until Nov 16.

November 15 - Received phone message from Home Depot store manager and GE customer care. I returned their calls but have been unable to contact either one to date. GE customer care on their message, stated she was sorry about our problems and the products were out of warranty, but she wanted to have a service tech look at the range to determine the if the range had something drop on it or if it was a thermal issue.

She advise us to have a authorized GE service tech look at it and file a report with her. We should initiate this. No discussion on who is paying for this. I called GE customer care person to clarify issues about charges and other things, as of yet she has not returned my call.

November 16 - GE authorized service replace the main control module in the refrigerator again, stating that he installed the wrong board. Checking other sites for this board to compare prices, I found the board he was installing and the one removed were no longer available in Canada. I showed him the exploded range, and told him GE Customer Care wanted a GE Tech to look at it and determine the cause of the problem and write a report. His response "Why did she say that, we can not determine the cause of the failure or what happened."

November 17 - Call GE Customer Care and left a message for the contact I have with them to call me to review where we are at regarding our issues. Went to Home Depot and spoke to store manager about problems and his response was "I will email the contact again and advise her you are heard and want to talk to her." No responses while I was there, so he sent her another email to let her know I was leaving and would be home in twenty minutes, to please contact me.

November 18 - No contact from GE. Just check produce drawer and again the produce is frozen. Call GE service again, and service manager advise me he would contact GE to see where we go from here.

Unacceptable Customer Service
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I had an appointment scheduled for both a GE washer and Dryer for Tuesday June 8. The technician did arrive within the scheduled appointment time. First, before even inspecting the units, the technician explained to me how GE management mistreated him and failed to trust him so he had to be extra careful to cover himself in case he was challenged on whether or not he actually made the service call. After a cursory inspection of both of the units, he proceeded to tell me that the dryer was cheap and that I should expect the noise it made. I found this response unacceptable and required to tech to keep looking.

He then determined that the drum unit needed to be replaced – I am not sure if he made this diagnosis to shut me up or if he is correct because he did not have the dryer apart and simply made this call based on placing his hand flat against the rear of the dryer. Your tech then told me that he did not have the parts on his truck for either the washer or dryer and would have to order them. When I pressed for more information he told me I was not in his area anyway and he was covering for someone else so it really was someone else's problem.

I immediately called the customer relations department and talked to a very knowledgeable and caring individual who was able to calm me down. She told me that she could see in the system that the tech had ordered the parts and had rescheduled the appointment – unfortunately he had scheduled the repairs for 2 separate days and no one had bothered to ask me if either day was convenient – they also have both repairs scheduled for a full day so I am unable to plan anything for either day and must plan on being off work to accommodate GE.

Today, June 14th, I received an unexpected delivery from Fedex – it turns out to be the drum unit for the dryer. Since I had not been told that this would come to my house I was concerned that the service group would not keep their appointment as they would be looking for the parts. I again called customer relations and talked to an individual who made me believe that I was an inconvenience and wasting her time by calling in. She told me that parts were normally delivered to customers homes and did not understand my concerns.

I then asked her to try to get both appointments scheduled for the same day and was informed that this had already happened – the appointments had been changed and no one bothered to notify me! The customer service representative claimed that GE had no way to contact me. I find this response also unacceptable.

The service team has failed in almost every aspect of their job – from presenting GE in a good light, showing support for the products GE sells, and failing to ensure that the customer is satisfied. At this point, I believe that I should become anti-GE and make every effort to tell friends, relatives, and casual acquaintances about my bad experiences and make every effort to convince them to purchase different brands when they have a choice.

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