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Engine Troubles
Posted by Zaltik on 11/21/2007
CLEARWATER, FLORIDA -- Thought I would post some info on my truck that I purchased new the end of March 2007, I now have approx. 17,000 miles on it. It has been in for service for a variety of issues and out of service for 45 days to date. I will list a few of the issues for some of you to review. Do not take me wrong I think this is a beautiful truck "BUT" ...

With less then 2,000 miles it ran very rough and needed 2 injectors replaced. Ford advised that I will need to run a fuel additive as the Ultra low sulfur available at this time is not up to standards. I complied and with in another 2,000 miles lost another injector. Each time is about 5 days in the shop to complete. I continued to experience rough running when the engine would do its regeneration mode for the environmentally friendly clean air...hahah, Sorry to say it happens at least once per tank full of fuel, it will idle higher and miss.

If in park it will idle up to about 1300 RPM. I have been told this is normal and have excepted that, This is just something I wanted to put out there to perspective new owners as what to expect.

By 7500 miles it was leaking oil badly, back in for service and a long wait as they had to remove the cab from the truck to get at the engine (27 days out service) my dealer didn't have the equipment and was tooling up for it. There fine mechanic was able to rig a system up to get body off w/o new lift equipment.

While this was apart they replaced a wiring harness defect that was dealer notified problem as it lays in the wrong way and heat can effect it ( for those of you who may have electrical problems). I drove as a happy truck driver for 5000 miles and then before a trip a water leak, the radiator tank separated. With in a week I started hearing a whine noise, like a power steering pump low on fluid, I now believe it may be a bearing in the Turbo charger? I made appointment to take it back in and realized I was leaking engine oil again.

I am on hold as at this point I felt it necessary to Lemon Law this vehicle. Good notes the truck has loads of power for towing and bed loads I have put 3200#lbs in bed with no drivability problems. Mileage 12.8-13.3 in town and I am not easy on the pedal, at 65 mph expect 17.8-19.5 mpg (girlfriend gets the 19mpg+ w/o cruise control, not me haha)

Hope this helps a Ford truck owner or shed some light on possible issues with this new truck I have been Beta testing.............

     
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Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-11-21:
That's not good news. I've been thinking about replacing my 7.3L Powerstroke and I have been waiting for this 6.4L engine to "get the bugs worked out" of it. The 6.0L they offered from 2003-2006 had so many problems that I decided to wait for the 2007's since this engine was supposed to be so much better - but having to have that much engine work done in 17K miles doesn't bode well for this engine either.
Posted by jktshff1 on 2007-11-21:
Good well thought out post (VH), thanks
Posted by ghosthunter on 2007-11-21:
I own a 2005 expedition and I bought it new and at 20.000 miles I had three injectors go out coming back from my uncle funnera.my engine is a 5.4 gasoline motor. than at 40.000 miles I had another go out and I had to pay for that myself and I am glad We have friends that work on cards and know what they are doing and are cheap. when I first had problems with the injectors and they fixed them it just didn't idle right and the response to that from ford was it won't be just like it was when you bought it new so i went along with it . I was so discussed with ford I don't think I will buy another until I do my homework on them.
Posted by Zaltik on 2007-11-23:
Just a update to my post. Had contact with another perspective buyer and he decided to keep his 7.3, he reported to me he had 2 customers who told him that they had to have there new 2008 6.4 engines replaced because of a cooling radiator that some how contaminated water into the engine oil and toasted the engines, there is like 6-7 coolers on the front of this truck, He remarked the EGR ?, cooler, I am not sure which one it was but water into the oil was the end result and they needed new engines in 2 new 2008 ford trucks. I will follow up with a Lemon Law blog as it progress's on my Truck
Posted by Luke_F on 2007-11-27:
Zaltik,

I received my 2008 F250 back today after 18 days, blown radiator and a bad oil leak in the timing cover.. I brought it home and it is leaking again.. 30 days out of service is the lemon law here in South Carolina and quite frankly I hope they cant get it right in the next 12 days b/c I want to lemon this truck as well.. Please keep me posted on your progress... did you hire an attorney or did you go through the channels on your own.. any advise you could offer would be great..
Posted by Zaltik on 2007-11-28:
Luke I sent a notice of defect to Ford and the States Attorneys office on Nov. 13. I also went to the BBB/Autoline (Better Business Bu). I would recommend filling there form out and also check with you states attorneys office as to the States guidelines. In FL we have to notify the Manufacture, and the State, this gives Ford 10 days to schedule a final repair or inspection. I am at 9 days now, and no notification from Ford The local BBB rep contacted me yesterday and said she had arranged with Ford for me to take to my local dealer, upon arrival I was told they can't do anything for me. They and myself need to get proper documentation from Ford and has to be brought in with a Divisional field rep from Ford, was told he won't be in the area for another 3 weeks. I contacted the states help line and was informed; If Ford does not contact me by tomorrow eve. I can go back to BBB and request Arbitration and BBB has 30 days for them to arrange that. This was told to me by the States Attorneys office today on the Phone. So I can see this will be a slow horse race. I didn't want to get involved with an attorney, as not sure who pays that cost and if it could delay the process using a third party, I have a tendency to dig into matters, get info and be a real bulldog in situations like this, it is a $50,000 truck and it is now become personal to me. Side note, I have gotten the cold and rude shoulder from Fords Customer care service center and was in disbelief as to how I was treated, thinking I might be a valued customer (4 Ford work trucks and vans over the last 15 years) and this new beast. Very wrong but me being personal I suppose.
My 1st oil leak was from the injector pump and a gear box on back of the engine I was told and was out service 27 days that time. It is leaking oil again. Along with a whine/growl like a bad bearing or power steering pump sound best I can tell. More to follow
Posted by Luke_F on 2007-11-29:
Zaltik.. Thanks for the information, it is very helpful. I am sorry to say that I think I will be going down your same road as well. And yes, I like you, take it personal.. I have purchased 5 of these new trucks over the past 10 years and I am shocked as to the service.. this truck is $50,000 and when my wife walks into the Lexus dealer with her $30,000 car she comes home as if having been to the spa.. I guess I am missing something here.. Thanks to keep me posted to your developments..
Posted by CBx$ on 2008-04-22:
Wish I would have been able to read this posting before Labor Day of 2007. We purchased a 2008 F250 Super Duty 4x4 diesel and loved it. The sales person told us about the motors regeneration process which is detailed in your posting, but all they told us was that it would regen every so often and thought it was about 1,000 miles. My husband only drives 8 miles back and forth to work, but does drive and haul a lot in the winter months to the deer lease and that's why he wanted the diesel. He began noticing the RPMs would go up when he placed the truck in park and make a loud noise. The truck did this several weeks. He took it into the Dealership and was told it was normal. After the third time and beginning to only get 8 miles to a gallon he took it in again and asked to speak to the diesel mechanic. He was a little irate since the truck only had 12,000 miles on it and the mechanic finally showed him some paperwork that stated the truck would go into regen every 100 to 600 miles and if you did not let the regen complete it would stay that way, thus causing the low fuel mileage. My husband was told to drive an additional 30 to 50 miles to let the regen complete or let it run in our driveway for 45 minutes each time. Needless to say my husband went to see the Sales Manager and asked why the salesperson did not explain this and found out NO ONE other than the mechanic knew this. My husband also check with a Chevy diesel mechanic and was told their diesels would do the same thing. Well long story short my husband told the Sales Manager that since they sold us a truck without giving us all the necessary information and one that did not suit our needs they needed to do whatever it took to get us into a gas truck. Several calls were made within the dealership and we now own a new 2008 F150 four door 4x4 that has a lot more perks than our other, but was given to us at a major discount. BUYER BEWARE!!!
Posted by paul12 on 2008-07-16:
i purchased a 2008 f550 with the 6.4 powerjoke. I don't advise anyone to buy this poorly built engine. I have had nothing but grief with it. It started at 3000 miles when the water pump snapped off and sent the fan through the radiator. Next the heater core went at 5000 miles it took 3 days to change. Then i had another rad at 10000 miles. Had engine derate for egr sensors failing. Now at 20000 miles i have excessive metal particles in oil filter. Sent truck to dealership for repair. Dealership contacted Ford adviser and said it was normal to have steel particles in filter and they are not going to address the problem till the engine fails. I have checked into availability of a new 6.4l it take up to 6 weeks to receive. THANKS FORD
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Rusty piece of junk
Posted by EMTguy on 01/22/2007
BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS -- I have a 2002 F-250 XL SD Supercab diesel (7.3L) with 56k miles on it. I bought the truck new and made my last payment on it this month. The truck is used periodically for work about 10-12k per year now and washed regularly. Would it have killed Ford to used some degree of corrosion protection in the steel. The finish on the rear bumper is peeling off, leaving rusty blotches that look like the truck is 15 years old, the oil pan is rusting thru, the underbody (frame, leaf springs, mounts, differentials) look like they've come from the hold of the Titanic and the door pinch seams (on the inside) are showing indications of corrosion as is the gray primered sheet metal under the bed and cab. For crying out loud, the rear half cab door strikers mounted on the rockers are also rusting away to nothing. They were so cheap and poorly engineered that they couldn't even paint the underside of the floors, rockers or bed in body color and from the looks of it, there is no corrosion protection in the primer as corrosion is forming on the primer. I can't imagine what this truck will look like in 5 years!!! It's a discrace. This is my last Ford vehicle. I've been a Ford guy my whole life and except forthe mistake of purchasing a piece of crap Dodge Ram 1500 new in 1996 (which needed a tranny at 18k), this is my 5th new Ford vehicle and will be my last. I specifically bought the diesel thinking this would be my last pickup I ever needed if I took care of it and I have so far. "Built Ford Tough" is nothing more than a marketing tag line. I believe their trucks are junk and they've screwed a whole generation of truck owners. The same people who gave them another chance when their 80s Ford trucks rotted away to nothing, just like the 80s Chevy/GMCs did. if you're paying attention Ford, THIS WILL BE MY LAST FORD VEHICLE!
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2007-01-22:
You may want to check with your Ford dealer, not 100% on this, but I remember something about a recall on the oil pan for rust through. Other than that did you undercoat the vehicle??? Afterall you live in Boston and I would expect this from any manufacturers product sold in your area.
Posted by Sparticus on 2007-01-22:
I'm siding with the reviewer on this. My brother and I both bought trucks in 1999. Mine, a Toyota 4-Runner... his was a Chevy Blazer. He had problems for years due to a bad paint job chipping/peeling off and causing premature rusting. My truck, now almost 8 years old, still does not have an ounce of rust on it or under it. I live in the salty midwest as well. Poor manufacturing/paint jobs and cheap unprotected parts can be to blame for the rusting problem.
Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-01-22:
I've got the same truck as the original poster, but I don't live in the salt belt. Mine still shines like new and there isn't an ounce of rust on it after well over 100K miles, so I have to go with JayD's take on this one.
Posted by Shakra on 2007-01-22:
I have salt all over my Chevy, it is eight years old and rust free.

I despise Fords because their engines are shoddy. Honestly, we went through five Fords in 6.5 years in England. We will never buy another Ford.
Posted by Anonymous on 2007-01-22:
Shakra, HERE! HERE!, I agree 100%
Posted by EMTguy on 2007-01-23:
Guys, Some of you are quick to blame the rustbelt, but you got to have the facts in my case before you do. The truck is rarely driven on the winter roads here. In fact, most of the corrosion occurred when it was sitting in my paved driveway for 2 years while I was travelling for work. The fact remains that I paid nearly $30k for a piece of crap IMHO. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that surface rust is forming on primer. Something's wrong here and Ford could give a flip. BTW, my buddy in NC has a 2001 E350 van with the same corrosion on the inside door seams. I've been told it's due to water infiltration behind the glued seam and lack of primer on the bare metal on the inside of the seam. Yup, the pinch seams are glued, not welded. Another Ford innovation putting "Quality Job 1"
Posted by bho55 on 2007-01-23:
FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily!
Posted by rotordyn on 2007-02-13:
I'm in the same boat as EMTguy. I live in MA and have a 2000 F250 XLT "Superduty" diesel. My oil pan already rusted through, and I'm told it will be "well over $2000" to repair since they have to pull the motor to change it. (So EMTguy, if yours isn't leaking yet, have it treated and painted before it does!)

Blaming the salt ignores the fact that not all vehicles rust away like this. My wife's Audi looked brand new after 3 years in Vermont and then 4 years in Mass, and with more than twice the mileage of my F-250. Audi's aren't cheap to repair, but this car had _zero_ rust anywhere.

Ford issued a service advisory on the oil pan issue, but my dealer never mentioned it or acted on it. Though I did stop going to them 1.5 years ago after too many instances of shoddy work. A "new" brake caliper that leaked all over my driveway was the last straw. When I called about the oild pan, I was told "they all do that" and that they had 3 in the shop for replacement right then. Complaining to Ford did no good of course.

So I remain in the same position as EMTguy. I'll never buy another Ford. My 2005 Freestar and 2000 F250 will both be traded within the next year for a Toyota Sienna and and a Tundra. I try to buy American on everything, but I'm tired of my wallet taking a beating on Fords. I actually found this posting while looking for something to put in my "goodbye" complaint letter to Ford's customer (dis)service department.
Posted by rotordyn on 2007-02-13:
Here is the latest TSB I could find on the oil pan issue. It is comical that they say "If the customer is concerned with this cosmetic issue..." as it is only cosmetic until the rust perforates the pan and dumps 3 gallons of oil on the pavement.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/fulltext/show_article.php?tsb=05-20-3
Posted by pduck on 2007-03-12:
New 2006 SD 250 Diesel, 300 miles on it, dripping oil from what looks to be the rear seal. I assume this is not going to "break in" and correct itself, only going to get worse, also has a singing noise that has developed in the turbo charger. I traded in my 04 model with 34k on it due to excessive trips to the dealer (9) in two years, three were turbo charger issues, then wiring, window motor, rear window frame, engine dies at any speed, any time, no warning. Very dangerous!! Junk!
Posted by Bighorn Farm on 2007-04-24:
2001Ford F-250SD oil pan rust through. 9500 miles no rust any where no the truck and the oil has rusted through. Warrenty ? 100000 mile nope. 5years. who puts 20000 miles a year. Warrenty or not .Why are the oil pans rusting out?Maybe no reasonable amount of paint? Maybe cheap China steel? The dealer tells me their all rusting. Why has there been no recall? Because Ford dosent want to eat the costof repairs.Every owner of a power stroke with oil pan rust through should go file a law suit in their local court house aginst Ford. It's time for consumers to make companys stand behind the product they sell. Thanks
Posted by Hower1 on 2007-04-26:
We have a 2002 F250 Diesel bought new, maintained very well and just noticed 2 weeks after the 5 year warrenty was up that both rear fender bed panels are rusting through from the inside out. Ford has offered to pay for half. Unacceptable in my book. No truck no matter what make it is should be rusting at only 5 years old.
Posted by amberslemon on 2007-07-20:
I agree with you. FORD COMPLETELY SUCKS. I also live in Boston and I have a lawsuit against Ford right now. I started sueing them 2 years ago and hopefully it will be over soon. By the time I was 25, I bought 7 Lincolns and this is my last one FOREVER!! The Lincoln LS is a lemon and for those who live in Boston, do not go to Sentry Lincoln Mercury or Pride Lincoln Mercury. They will sell you car and then tell you to screw!!!
Posted by Milwaukee on 2009-05-10:
How it get rust. You didn't wash salt off truck so it not Ford's Fault. I have see gm truck front bumper rust short time.

Before you complaint that you have more rust so here proof our f250 that have 255,000 miles. http://s92.photobucket.com/albums/l3/makitabosch/01%20F250%20superduty/?action=view¤t=IMG_5314.jpg
Posted by 03f150sport on 2010-07-09:
Owner of 2 superduties at the moment. driven in many other superduties. all in northern alberta canada. driven thru winter salt and calcium. NOT ONE truck rotted out as bad as yours, i keep mine clean most times but when working i dont have time to clean and that salt will sit on my truck for up to a week at a time. the only way i see your truck being this bad is if you live near the ocean and possibly unloading boats in it. in all honesty you are a poor truck owner if you let it get that bad. my 1st superduty was a 99 crew cab 4x4 long box dually. the worst it had was chips on my tailgate from rocks bouncing off trailer back to truck and around wheelwells where i had the chrome trim (trim rubbed thru paint). only other place that will rust is the bottom of the doors where the skin is folded over the shell. all are easy fixes IF you stay ontop of them. these trucks will last forever if taken care of.
Posted by 03f150sport on 2010-07-09:
if anyone here had any common sense. when you buy a truck or car. GET IT UNDERCOATED.
Posted by Steve Rumer on 2013-06-08:
I own a 2005 Superduty Ext Cab short bed 4x4 gas. I bought the truck brand new and keep up with the oil and cleaning it. The rust is very bad under the bed and under the all doors! I love the truck but can't believe how bad it is rusting. The truck only has 39,230 miles!! Last ford for me.
Posted by Ray on 2013-07-01:
I feel your pain with all of you. I'm in the the bodyshop business and have seen rust on Fords and alot of other makes. seems to me that these vintage of trucks and cars {all makes} don't seem to have the corrosion protection as in years past. The reason is first its cheeper second corossion protection interfears with recycling processes and third people don't usally keep there vehicles more than 4yrs. I know it sucks but thats whats going on.
Posted by steve on 2013-10-30:
I own an 02 f350 150,000 miles live in lancaster,pa it failed inspection because of the rust I thought this would be my last 35,000$ truck can't even trade in it is rusting away to nothing Ford sucks and I bet they don't even care
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Oil Pan
Posted by Dissatified on 03/16/2006
LEROY, MICHIGAN -- I own a 1999 Ford F250 super duty. The oil pan is leaking.This is a diesel with only 90,000 miles.So far no satisfaction from the manufacturer.How is it that they can advertise the vehicle as super duty?.Most owners of a diesel vehicle will tell you that 90,000 miles on a diesel-the vehicle is just breaking in.Cost to replace the oil pan 1300 dollars another engineering feat.Probably will never own another Ford product and I come from a Ford family. My brothers and other family will probably abandon Ford after 30 years of buying ford products.Apparently the 7 new comments were written by ford employees.ford motor refers to there trucks as ford tough wonder what tough means to ford and its employees.Rusting oil pan at 90,000 miles its a good thing this truck has never gone off road.I might have some other parts that cant meet the FORD TOUGH standard.So to you 7 ford employees go back to work and help ford go bankrupt and get these junk products off the road.
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-16:
$1300.00 to replace the pan? Not much of a mechanic are we?
Posted by dsmith68 on 2006-03-16:
Your unhappy about a $1300 repair after 90,000 miles? Geeze, you are tough to please.
Posted by bmakowski46 on 2006-03-16:
I was happy when my car didn't have to go into the shop until I had 50k on it....
Posted by Anonymous on 2006-03-16:
I guess you happy boys never owned a diesel truck before? I understand it’s a momentous event when the odometer on the old KIA hits 6 digits but that’s not quite what the poster is talking about.
Posted by wary-consumer on 2006-03-16:
$1300, WOW!! I'd get a 2nd estimate & complain about the mechanic that is ripping you off, not Ford the manufacaturer. Did you ever stop to think maybe something hit your oil pan causing it to leak??- How is it Ford's fault becasue of abusive driving habbits? Has anyone else driven/ abused it??
Posted by navynova on 2006-03-22:
Do you know that you have to pull the engine to replace the oil pan??? I guess you just have to be a ford tech to know that, and you are not getting ripped off by anyone it is a reasonable price to pay for something like that, especially when you have to take off the front bumper, radiator, take all of the AC out, drain the radiator, and still remove all of the wiring and turbo stuff then pull the engine. so what are you complaining about?? have a joe smoe do it and see how it turns out and stop your complaining
Posted by rotordyn on 2006-06-23:
I have the same problem, and my dealer's estimate was
over $2K. And it isn't due to abuse. The oil pan rusts
through, with big flakes of rusted steel coming off.
There is no impact.

Additional comments I left on this on another thread:

You've hit an extremely common failure. Ford knows
about it but refuses to cover it beyond the
warranty period. Which may be 6 years/100K mi for
the diesel.

I have the same problem with 40K miles on my 2000
F250 diesel. Ford and the dealership says I'm out
of luck and have to pay the $2000+ cost myself,
even though the dealer ignored the preventative
action prescribed in a TSB during all of my
service visits.

So much for "best built. best backed."

Check your brake lines as well. All of mine are
corroded and ready to burst. (Again, w/ only
40k mostly summer miles) Clearly stainless steel
lines aren't cost effective on a $40K truck.

I don't know who is better, but this is my last
Ford. Maybe a Tundra will be big enough for my
needs.
Posted by candy3788 on 2006-08-26:
People who don't have diesels should not comment. Diesels have a 350,000 mile shelf life and when you have a repair that is this costly, it's a big hit. We just had to have the high pressure oil pump replaced ($2,200.00) on our 2004 F250 Super Duty. We have 107,000 miles on it and have babied it. Because the manufacturer only covers that problem up to 100,000 miles, we were out of luck. However the dealership told us that had we had our truck serviced with them the whole time, Ford would have helped us on the bill. We don't have time to wait half a day to get an oil change in a work truck. If you have all the service records, that should not matter!
Posted by unclejoe on 2006-09-03:
I own a 2000 7.3 Diesel F 350 that I took only to the ford dealer for service. Scheduled and repairs.
I noticed an oil leak around 90,000 miles. On my service requests are written in that I was complaining of the leak. At 101,000 miles my ford technician discovered that I had an oil leak. The oil leak was that my pan had rotted out. The bottom line is that they said it was not covered by my 100,000 mile warranty as it had not been detected until after 100,000 miles.It was obviously leaking prior to 100,000 miles but not detected by ford until 101,000 miles.It did not matter that I had requested service about the leak while in warranty. I was charged over $2,000 to do the repair.It was not until latter after talking to other Ford owners that I found out that Ford had issued a TSB on this problem. Bottom line with Ford is that if YOU find the leak within warranty they will fix it.
My Ford technician says he never was told to look for a rotten oil pan. It turns out that this problem is wide spread with Fords Oil Pan.
An improper primer was used on the oil pan than causes the pan to rot out over time. If you have a Ford, you, not your dealer, should look to see if your pan is rotting out. The dealers some how can not find this problem until after you are out of warranty. Again, it turns that even if you tell them you have an oil leak, ford will not stand behind it unless your dealer acknowledges that he saw the leak within the warranty period.
Posted by Detroit on 2006-10-22:
Having worked at Ford for 8 years till I got laid off I learned a few things. The Dealer is happy to find problems under warranty. Ford pays the dealer to fix the problems so the dealer makes money that way. The trouble with dealers is they wont fix the problem unles someone pays. So if Ford does not pay the dealer, the costumer has too. I worked in the Quality division and I was not impressed with the way problems were solved. I don't directly blaim the engineers, they are swamped with quotas and paperwork and that creates a huge mess when they try to get their job done. The other problems is Ford hiring mechanical and electrical engineers that have never worked on a car or how it works. Being a mechanic for many years, I saw their simple blunders made time and time again, but they wont listen if you try to help them. Sad but true.
Posted by Rollman 1 on 2006-11-06:
I reference to the oil pan leak on the F-150, I own a 95 F-150 and the oil pan leaks also, it's rusted from the inside out. Doesn't anyone find this peculiar?? From what I understand is it is from recycled metal with poor Iron content. If you ask any of your Baby boomer friends you may just find out that this rarely occured on the old cars from the 50 - 60's. The only time I've ever seen oil pans leak is from driving over sharp objects such as rocks and the pan leaked due to being ripped open or gauged. It herks me when I read comments such as the ones I've read for this issue.

I strongly aggree that Ford Motor Company should be responsible for this. I'm sure if we had a piece of metal from an old Ford, and analysed it's metal caractaristics to metal from the newer Fords of today from the 90's on. We would see a big difference. And if it is a quality issue with Ford then maybe Ford MC should review and upgrade it's standards.

As for me if someone knows of such a recall on this, could someone alert me of it.

Sincerely,

Rollman
Posted by rollnthunder on 2007-09-04:
I wish ford would stand behind there stuff period.I have a 2002 F250 4x4 7.3L and when it was under warranty i was complaining of trans fluid leaking from the torque converter seal.I took it to the dealer and they put dye in the motor and trans.Found the Engines rear main seal was leaking.So they pulled the trans to fix this.I know the difference in colors in fluid.It was trans fluid leaking.Well now that im out of my warranty its still leaking and the dealer says yep it is $900 to fix it.Its documented on my paper work customer complaining of red fluid leaking at the front of the transmission.I have also found my oil pan flaking and it was in for service several times and they never said anything about it or anything.So i found some stuff called POR-15 its a hard metal coating that fixes this problem.IT stops the rust then it fills in the pits and makes it strong again.Come on ford stand up and take care of the problems.I even called ford warranty to try and get the converter seal fixed and got no where.
Posted by divebluewater on 2009-10-06:
I own a 2000 F250 Super Duty. It has left me standed on the side of the road 3 times with less than 111,000 miles. My previous truck was a Mazda and I sold it at 140k miles. It never even hiccuped once.
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Recall That Went Bad
Posted by Jedd on 05/04/2007
COLUMBIA, MISSISSIPPI -- I got a recall on my truck with only 1400 miles on it. The turbo was already making noise. The recall was about reprogramming the computer system. Before I took it to the dealership that I purchased it from. The truck would get 21 mpg @ 60 mph & all instrument read out was working correctly. After the dealership had reprogrammed the computer system. Turbo noise was more obvious, at 60 mph only 11 mpg. With a little less than 1/2 tank of fuel, the computer readout showed (0) miles to empty. The truck hah less power.

I contacted the guy which I had purchased this 2008, F-250, crew cab, 4x4, 6.4 POWER STROKE. They kept it a week, even the mechanic took it home for test drive. Still, they can't find the problem. I purchased this truck for pulling my fifth wheel with, but now I don't trust it.

     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2007-05-04:
You should try to contact Ford Motor company direct.
http://www.ford.com/en/default.htm
Posted by Hugh_Jorgen on 2007-05-04:
Sounds like Ford is repeating the mistakes they made with the 6.0L PowerStroke all over again.
Posted by christinam on 2007-05-21:
well im having the same problem. a new 2008 ford f250 with only 500 miles and every light that could possibly turn on has engaged. when i took it to the dealer they reset the computer and sent me on my way. but a few hundred miles later the check motor, seatbelt, running hot, tcs lights all came back on. i took it back to ford and its been there for over a week and they told me they cant find the problem. so its still there. has anyone else had or heard of this problem?
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Ford 2006 F250 Diesel
Posted by BTSCHARTERS on 07/21/2012
FLORIDA -- Ford trucks are a piece of garbage along with all their vehicles in my opinion. I purchased mine brand new and are scared to drive it. The most recent problem with the truck was I was driving down the interstate doing about 70 miles per hour and the truck shut down on me. Just completely shut off and because of this I lost control of my power steering and you can only imagine what happened from there.

I regret so much selling my Dodge diesel that was a 1998 and only had one problem with it. I now only have under 90,000 miles on my truck and the Ford company refuses to fix it. I am writing this so listen carefully. Never buy a ford vehicle new or old or you are a fool like I was. I paid 57 thousand dollars for my vehicle new and what do I have from it? A vehicle that has made my back worse a vehicle that has no resale value even though I always took care of it and the Ford company does nothing for you period.

My truck now is sitting in my yard in a deed restricted neighborhood and Ford even though they know this truck is a lemon will not do anything for me but when they were selling me my truck they made sure to tell me it was the best truck and best diesel engine on the market period. Be smarter then I was never buy a Ford vehicle period and you will doing yourself a favor. Do not believe what they tell you. The new diesel I'm sure in my opinion is no better then the older ones and the guys at Ford in my opinion would sell their mother to make a dollar.

Nothing but problems since day one I purchased the vehicle and they didn't even document any of my complaints. hmm I wonder why?
     
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Posted by MRM on 2012-07-21:
Since your vehicle shuts down all of the sudden, I would examine the computer module.
Posted by trmn8r on 2012-07-21:
Ford is doing very well reputation-wise. I'm sorry that your experience isn't consistent with that.

Why is your truck worthless? Was there an accident when you lost power? If you are on a highway, you shouldn't have to steer much to get off on the shoulder? Vehicles are designed so there is reduced but some control when the engine dies.

Why do you refer to it as a lemon? What specific problems have you had? Why has the truck made your back worse?
Posted by btscharters on 2012-08-16:
look up the history of the six litre diesel engine and thats all i have to say there is no resale value to these trucks i purchased brand new another mistake in my opinion these trucks accounted for 85 percent of fords warranty claims through the years they made them having well over seventy issues with the truck while chevy duramax i think reported seven issues or eight and dodge reporting zero and you are going to tell me that ford is any good worst company ever in my opinion not only was my credit in the high 700 when i purchased the truck and put down a huge amount they had the nerve to charge me over 11 percent
Posted by btscharter on 2012-08-16:
worst run company if you ask me
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A/C Failure
Posted by Cagothberg1 on 08/07/2011
The A/C failed on my 2006 F250 and the repair costs $1,650. This was because an internal desiccant bag that bust and clogged the entire system. The only major component saved was the compressor. It is unacceptable that a 6 year old truck has such a problem. I believe this to be a design problem and safe guards should be made to keep the system from contamination. I would like to know what Ford motor co. is going to do about this design flaw.

When I got the quote for repair I thought about trading in my truck and the sticker was 62,000. I stopped and wondered if the new truck would have the same problem!!
     
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Posted by At Your Service on 2011-08-07:
I'd be mad too. But anyone with an unexpected breakdown thinks the merchandise "shouldn't be expected to do this so soon". I don't think it could be considered a "design flaw" without a lot more people having the same problem.
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FORD F-250 NIGHTMARE
Posted by Candie92 on 03/17/2010
WHERE TO START.....
OK FIRST WE HAD A RECALL ON THIS POS TOOK IT IN FORD TECH UPDATED THE COMPUTER AND THEN THE FUN BEGAN. LEFT DEALERSHIP ONLY TO GET ABOUT 200FT DOWN RD WHEN TRUCK JUST ABOUT DIED SPIT AND SPUTTERED. WENT BACK AND THEY SAID OH MUST BE IT DID NOT UPDATE ALL THE WAY SO THEY REDID IT. OK...THEN IT WAS SOMEWHAT FINE UNTIL THE ERG VALVE WENT. THAT WAS $600 OUT OF POCKET. THEN AS MY HUSBAND WAS IN TEXAS DELIVERING A 5TH WHEEL THE RADIATOR BROKE. GEE THERE WAS A RECALL BUT SOME IDIOT FORGOT TO TELL US ABOUT IT, AFTER CLOSE TO $1400.00 TO GET THIS FIXED AND 4 MONTHS LATER WE WERE REFUNDED, NOT TO MENTION AFTER RADIATOR WAS FIXED THOSE MECHANICS IN TEXAS CUT THE TRANSMISSION LINE TO THE RADIATOR WHICH WE HAD TO PAY FOR $200.00 MIND U THIS IS A NEW TRUCK. THEN WHAT SEEMS LIKE WEEK AFTER WEEK IT WAS IN THE SHOP DUE TO NO POWER NEAR DYING OF ENGINE. THEY COULD NEVER FIND WHAT WAS WRONG WITH IT. SO TIME AFTER TIME TAKING IT IN TO BE LOOKED AT AND LOSING MONEY NOT BEING ABLE TO DRIVE WHAT WERE PAYING FOR, AND PAYING FOR SOME IDIOT TO FIX IT WHEN IT NEVER GOT FIXED MUST HAVE SPENT AT $2000.00 IN REPAIRS THAT WERE NEVER REPAIRED. ONLY TO HAVE THE HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP REPLACED AT 140,000 MILES THAT WAS 3200.00 IN WHICH THE MECHANIC STATED THE REASON IT WENT OUT WAS BECAUSE THE WIRES WERE BARE NO INSULATION ON THEM SO IT SHORTED OUT PUMP! WHO SHOULD PAY FOR THAT? UMMM FORD??? NOPE WE HAD TO, ON TOP OF PAYING $3200.00 TO GET IT FIXED THE DEALER SCRATCHED THE CRAP OUT OF OUR TRUCK, BROKE THE BACK SEAT, AND LOST A FUSE COVER PANEL. $3200.00 IN REPAIRS TO HAVE $5000.00 IN DAMAGE. THEN BACK TO THE TEXAS RADIATOR DEAL THE IDIOT MECHANICS ONT ONLY CUT THE TRANSMISSION LINE BUT THEY SLICED SOME OF THE ELECTRICAL WIRES THAT WERE SHOVED UP AGAINST THE RADIATOR, WE HAD TO PAY FOR THAT $300.00 SO AS U SEE WHO EVER WROTE FORD IS BUILT FORD TOUGH HAS NOT DROVE OUR TRUCK......SO BACK TO THE HIGH PRESSURE FUEL PUMP AFTER LESS THAT 40,000 MILES AND 5 MONTHS GUESS WHAT THE PUMP IS GOING OUT AGAIN. BUT FORD ONLY GIVES YOU 12 MONTHS / 12000 MILE WARRANTY. HELLO THIS IS A WORK TRUCK FLIPPIN IDIOT. THERE FULL OF POOH WHEN THEY SAY BUILT FORD TOUGH, MORE LIKE TOYOTA....
KEEP THE JOBS HERE AND THERE WOULD NOT BE SO MANY SCREW UPS ON AUTO CARS.....
     
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Posted by Anonymous on 2010-03-17:
I can't read all of that. But if there was a recall you would have been notified had you registered the vehicle with Ford.
Posted by BmCarson on 2011-01-28:
first off a high pressure pump on a 6.4L is mechanical the gasket around it has the wires running through it that shorts out the delivery system to the pump, half the time when you get a new gasket the wires are already messed up and loose so I just wire tie them. The pump should've been fine unless you accidently filled it with gas one time. And send that dealer in texas your bill for the line and wires.
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2004 F-250 Diesel,
Posted by Unhappy Joe on 11/02/2009
BAD smell from engine. Went to three dealers before I found one that even had a deisel tech!!!Dealer said head gasket went out, smell is diesel in coolant, $3,385.15 fix. Picked up truck, headed home, smoking (white and then black when picking up speed) Called dealer, was told it would burn out. Got back home (2200 miles...was out of state when gasket went)took to local dealer, (said repairs at 1st dealer not covered under warranty and was worried about his 1026 account) this one said "pin holes" in cylinder/s) Need new short block. Approx $8500. Ford paid 1/2 of bill from 1st dealer and $4000 for second repair. Truck had 72,000 +- miles. Dealer took for test drive, new engine locked up, need another short block, some rods, pistons etc... picked up truck, noticed "new" short block was from 2003 truck. This OS the 3rd short block in a month. Still not running right, smell has returned, (tech said did not flush out heater core and could not really get radiator clean), plus and now it also surges from time to time, and a strange vibration at idle felt on the steering wheel and foot pedels. Going back AGAIN this week. Was without a truck from Sept 7th to Sept 16th, then again from Sept 22nd to Oct 27th..... My work truck!! Been a Ford owner almost all my adult life, I'm 50. Had 85 Bronco XLT, 89 Tempo, 89 F-150, 96 F-250 C/C Diesel, 92 Ranger, 02 F-150, and this one, 04 F-250 Diesel. My parents were/are Ford folks too, as is my sister and her family. Dispite Ford's assistance with the bills, which I am VERY thankfull for, I just don't know if I will buy from them again. Can't even understand how a block gets holes - fluids mixing - yet NO warning lights, gages don't register anything wrong, nothing. Chevy/GMC and Dodge will get a VERY close look by me. Will check to see if they have diesel techs/how many and what level training they have. I am a VERY VERY VERY dissappointed customer / owner.

     
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2008 F-250 6.4
Posted by Bigdaddy11 on 09/30/2009
I have a 2008 f-250 4x4 4d I had 2600 miles on it & the motor went out. Now it has 14000 miles & I brought it back to Ford dealership I think it will need a motor for the 2nd time. I just want what I paid for. Ford suck's.
     
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Posted by MSCANTBEWRONG on 2009-09-30:
That does stink.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-30:
This is why I don't buy American made cars
Posted by Skye on 2009-09-30:
Us either. We own Japanese and German vehicles only. My family that does own American made vehicles, always and I mean always have problems.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-30:
I stick with Japanese cars; Toyota, Mazda, Mitsubishi
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-30:
On the flip side I have a 2001 Ford truck, the same V10. All I have ever done for it was change the fluids and a set of front brakes and new tires. It has been one of the most trouble free cars/trucks I have ever owned.

I don't drive it a lot as it is a second car for pulling a boat etc but with just over 50,000 miles It's doing great in my book. Buy American, by Ford!

Something to consider, this case of the bad engine compares to how many millions of Ford trucks that never have/had an engine problem? The same complaint can be said about those pesky German cars (which we own one of) or the Asian made cars. Don't trash an entire brand over one bad engine.

L'yaya, back in the 1980's I bought a Mazda with the rotary engine (don't ask me why, I must have been zoning out). Worse piece of junk I ever bought. Had it towed away after the 2nd engine and never wanted to see one again.
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-30:
I agree Skye and yaya.I have only owned foreign automobiles,same with most of my family.My brother in law is on his 3rd Ford in 9 years(i'll have to check that number,but i'm pretty sure i'm correct).....the last one he bought about seven months ago,already had the transmission replaced and his rear driver side wheel has something wrong..wobbles and makes a hell of a noise when turning left....He must like the abuse..


I have to admit I will probably buy my first American truck in the next year or so..The new Silverado has caught my eye...
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-30:
Super, my 1998 Mazda Protege was the best car I've ever owned. It was very low maintenance. I cried when I totaled it
Posted by Anonymous on 2009-09-30:
Train that new ram looks kick ass, I would get that if I were looking for a truck. The f-150 also. I don’t buy anything GM cause its all cheap plastic junk. From what I remember maybe they improved there products.
Posted by PepperElf on 2009-09-30:
"Comment(s) removed: Solicitations not allowed"

Especially since the advertisement was full of bad grammar and spelling errors.

Who in their right mind would hire a lawyer who can't tell the difference between "web site" and "web sight".

Posted by Ytropious on 2009-09-30:
I'll never own anything other then a Honda, my car is 16 years old with 155K miles and it's rust free and running great. Hubby drives a Chevy Colorado though, it's only 2 years old so time will tell how it holds up.
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Ford Engineers Know Less Than I Do...
Posted by BlueWolf on 07/10/2009
I will probably never buy another Ford. We had only 9000 miles on the truck when towing our 5th wheeler: 1. the engine brake would only engage sporadically or worse, engaged on it's own, 2. sporadic shutter when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear from a stop, and 3. we couldn't pull our 9800 lb 5th wheeler faster than 45 MPH up a 6% incline - floored!

Fords Engineers hooked up their computers and the computer told them there is nothing wrong with the truck. They will authorize no repairs. They 'experienced' the problems but claim the computer showed none. Total nonsense. They refuse to move forward with any repairs.

One would think that logic someplace would play a roll. This truck is rated to tow over 18,500 lbs. At that rate, this trucks performance would have it roll backwards going up a hill. Lousy customer service and incompetent, inexperienced engineers - Ford Motor Companys way! They are not standing behind their vehicle or what they claim this vehicle is capable of. It ran fantastic before these problems - so the problem now is to get it fixed and Ford won't do it. Shame on Ford!
     
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Posted by BlueWolf on 2009-07-14:
Follow-up: the engineers experienced all the problems complained about but will not authorize any further testings since the truck did not throw any error codes. This flys in the face of the Technican Service Bulletins which outline the problems and what the repairs should be. Bye bye Ford! Look forward to them following GM's shoes.
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